i asked an attorney and they said "no." it is still very confusing to me how this question is worded. they said a peace officer thing is a certification, not a license. maybe because you aren't directly applying for the license, you apply through the department? i dont know. but you also have to list security clearances. a security clearance is not a fucking professional license...Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:44 amI read it. So did my attorney. Nowhere does it state you have to list 20 applications for employment as a peace officer. However, if you and your attorney believe it is prudent, then by all means list them. But again, nowhere does the application or the Rules require it.noice wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:40 pmthe Cal Bar FAQ says you have to list applications for anything that require a determination of moral character, to include a government security clearance (which is NOT a license, and arguably not within the scope of the question, so if you didn't read the FAQ you probably wouldn't know)Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:24 pmHow is an application for a position as a LEO technically an applicaton for a license that was denied because you didn't get the job? Can you provide some sort of reference from the State Bar that states that or even infers it? Thanx.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:43 pmwould having like 20 applications as a police officer (never got hired, finally did on the last one) cause me problems? these are technically applications for a license that were denied (POST license). this was like 10 years ago.
2. I have a government security clearance. Do I have to report my security clearance
certification in the moral character application?
Yes. The moral character application requires the disclosure of all professional licenses
that include a character determination component (e.g., questions concerning
convictions or disciplinary matters), including security clearance certifications. Examples
of professional licenses that typically include a character determination component
include licensure as a Certified Public Accountant, Patent Practitioner, Real Estate
Salesperson or Broker, Notary Public, or Teacher.
(Again, a security clearance is not a license. It does require a moral character determination, but is not a license...)
Anyway, an LEO application in many states is ultimately an application for a peace officer license (California, Arizona, etc etc). This application requires a moral character determination (background check). Thus, you should list it.
https://www.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/0/doc ... er-FAQ.pdf
From the document you cited:
3. Do I have to disclose a potential place of employment in the moral character application? No. The moral character application requires that the applicant disclose any job lasting more than six months and any law-related job, regardless of the length of time employed, where the applicant is either employed at the time the moral character application is filed or has been employed.
The application for moral character determination is how you present yourself to the bar. Do yourself a HUGE favor and have an attorney help you with it.
the FAQ i quoted above is very, very confusing.