Not taken condescendingly at all - genuinely appreciate the perspective and like rationally understand that I am not quite at that level of applicant, but yknow, a guy can dream. Anyways, any chance you would be willing to say what made that Barron clerk you mentioned stellarAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:20 pmFWIW I know people who were not on HLR that clerked for him, but they were stellar candidates in other things. Anyways (hopefully this is not condescending, I don't mean it to be), chin-up, you are a great COA candidate for somewhere. You're just not the type of candidate that can only apply to the Barrons of the world and get a bunch of offers.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:03 pmThat's kinda what I expected to hear, but thank you reaffirming! Agh, yeah - you're probably right but I struck out 2L and have no idea where I should be applying cuz the clerkship office is simply not helpful. Missing HLR really seems to be a daggerAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:27 pmI'd still apply because hey you never know, but in my experience, I don't think he takes those kind of people. You seem to be well set for an appellate clerkship somewhere, though, so I wouldn't be too bummed about it. But again still apply—it's only an OSCAR spot.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:13 pmAny perspective on what he is looking for?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:12 amYeah he's pretty competitive still. If anything, probably even more since he's sort of solidified his place at the top for lib semi-feeders.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:14 pmDoes anyone have perspective on whether Barron is still as competitive at HYS as the posts from 2016/2018 suggest him to be?
Only data points from the last few years are prez of LR + magna and someone who was not on LR and did not graduate magna. So, not exactly helpful
Am 3L on the fringe of magna (depends on this semester, knock on wood) with non-prestigous liberal bona fides (major roles on major campaigns, but not in WH) but no HLR and don't have a prestige undergrad (he seems to like ivy undergrads but not sure if thats correlation/causation)
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Exceeding in all the other things. RA jobs etc...Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:44 pmNot taken condescendingly at all - genuinely appreciate the perspective and like rationally understand that I am not quite at that level of applicant, but yknow, a guy can dream. Anyways, any chance you would be willing to say what made that Barron clerk you mentioned stellarAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:20 pmFWIW I know people who were not on HLR that clerked for him, but they were stellar candidates in other things. Anyways (hopefully this is not condescending, I don't mean it to be), chin-up, you are a great COA candidate for somewhere. You're just not the type of candidate that can only apply to the Barrons of the world and get a bunch of offers.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:03 pmThat's kinda what I expected to hear, but thank you reaffirming! Agh, yeah - you're probably right but I struck out 2L and have no idea where I should be applying cuz the clerkship office is simply not helpful. Missing HLR really seems to be a daggerAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:27 pmI'd still apply because hey you never know, but in my experience, I don't think he takes those kind of people. You seem to be well set for an appellate clerkship somewhere, though, so I wouldn't be too bummed about it. But again still apply—it's only an OSCAR spot.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:13 pmAny perspective on what he is looking for?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:12 amYeah he's pretty competitive still. If anything, probably even more since he's sort of solidified his place at the top for lib semi-feeders.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:14 pmDoes anyone have perspective on whether Barron is still as competitive at HYS as the posts from 2016/2018 suggest him to be?
Only data points from the last few years are prez of LR + magna and someone who was not on LR and did not graduate magna. So, not exactly helpful
Am 3L on the fringe of magna (depends on this semester, knock on wood) with non-prestigous liberal bona fides (major roles on major campaigns, but not in WH) but no HLR and don't have a prestige undergrad (he seems to like ivy undergrads but not sure if thats correlation/causation)
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Does anyone know if Montecalvo has sent out interview invites yet?
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Yes, she has.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 4:54 pmDoes anyone know if Montecalvo has sent out interview invites yet?
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Related but does anyone know if she has made decisions?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 11:15 pmYes, she has.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 4:54 pmDoes anyone know if Montecalvo has sent out interview invites yet?
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hired someone from my schooleducationalpage2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:10 pmRelated but does anyone know if she has made decisions?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 11:15 pmYes, she has.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 4:54 pmDoes anyone know if Montecalvo has sent out interview invites yet?
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for what term?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:01 pmhired someone from my schooleducationalpage2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:10 pmRelated but does anyone know if she has made decisions?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 11:15 pmYes, she has.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 4:54 pmDoes anyone know if Montecalvo has sent out interview invites yet?
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Any word on Howard? His oscar listing is still open.
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Anyone know anything about Mary McElroy?
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Does top 15-20% at t6 have a chance at Montecalvo? (NYU/PENN)
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From what I understand, it’s more of a fit consideration, so as long as the grades are pretty good, you have a chance.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:28 amDoes top 15-20% at t6 have a chance at Montecalvo? (NYU/PENN)
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I guess my question is then if top 15-20% grades are "pretty good" lolAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:52 pmFrom what I understand, it’s more of a fit consideration, so as long as the grades are pretty good, you have a chance.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:28 amDoes top 15-20% at t6 have a chance at Montecalvo? (NYU/PENN)
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Different poster than the previous person who responded - it's hard to say since she's pretty new and it's not like we know what her current clerks' transcripts are. But given that she doesn't specify a class standing threshold on OSCAR, I'd think that your grades wouldn't preclude you from getting an interview (especially if you have Rhode Island ties/a public interest background/prior experience clerking). I'd have a professor or someone call chambers so your app at least gets pulled out of the pile.thegamer123 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:33 pmI guess my question is then if top 15-20% grades are "pretty good" lolAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:52 pmFrom what I understand, it’s more of a fit consideration, so as long as the grades are pretty good, you have a chance.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:28 amDoes top 15-20% at t6 have a chance at Montecalvo? (NYU/PENN)
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Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:28 amDoes top 15-20% at t6 have a chance at Montecalvo? (NYU/PENN)
I see what I assume is the same person asking this question for different COA judges. Your grades probably meet the necessary threshold for many COA judges. However, your grades by themselves are likely not special enough to get pulled. This means I would ask a Professor or call or play up any connections/relevant expertise.
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Like everyone else said, you’ll need something to get you pulled. So a professor call or some sort of interesting public interest thing on your resume might do it. Those grades alone probably won’t.thegamer123 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:33 pmI guess my question is then if top 15-20% grades are "pretty good" lolAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:52 pmFrom what I understand, it’s more of a fit consideration, so as long as the grades are pretty good, you have a chance.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:28 amDoes top 15-20% at t6 have a chance at Montecalvo? (NYU/PENN)
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Last year Judge Rikelman's oscar post asked applicants not to have profs/references reach out to chambers. This year's posting does not include that line—does anyone have any thoughts on whether this year's omission was an oversight (i.e. still please do not call) or intentional (i.e. it's okay to have references reach out)?
Also, has anyone heard of any movement on Judge Montecalvo for this year? I'm assuming (hoping) she's waiting to reach out to candidates until after her May 1 cutoff, but thought I'd ask around just in case.
Also, has anyone heard of any movement on Judge Montecalvo for this year? I'm assuming (hoping) she's waiting to reach out to candidates until after her May 1 cutoff, but thought I'd ask around just in case.
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