Underrated lit boutiques? Forum

[Anonymous User]

Which quality lit boutiques most often go under the radar? Current COA clerk looking to make sure I don't leave any good options unexplored. NY/DC preferred but open to other markets too.

[Anonymous User]

Glenn Agre and Perry Law seem to be new players who pay well. That's all I know about them though.

[Anonymous User]

I feel like MoloLamken is not often discussed, from what I've heard they give associates substantive trial/appellate work right away. Hueston Hennigan's NY office is making waves as well.

[The Lsat Airbender]

Underrated by whom? What "good" rating criteria are you interested in?

I think BSF is underrated at the moment because they seem (so far) to be defying expectations that they'd collapse post-Boies, but I wouldn't recommend working there to most people.

I think Susman is underrated on Vault, but I doubt you needed to be told about Susman.

Etc.

[Anonymous User]

Underrated by whom? What "good" rating criteria are you interested in?

I think BSF is underrated at the moment because they seem (so far) to be defying expectations that they'd collapse post-Boies, but I wouldn't recommend working there to most people.

I think Susman is underrated on Vault, but I doubt you needed to be told about Susman.

Etc.

Underrated as in quality boutiques that aren't necessarily on everyone's radar (unlike Susman). Bonus points for actually being good places to be (unlike Boies).

[Anonymous User]

Which quality lit boutiques most often go under the radar? Current COA clerk looking to make sure I don't leave any good options unexplored. NY/DC preferred but open to other markets too.

Depends on what you're looking for and what qualifies as a "boutique" for you, but a lot of clerks tend to like Patterson Belknap

[Anonymous User]

I think BSF is underrated at the moment because they seem (so far) to be defying expectations that they'd collapse post-Boies, but I wouldn't recommend working there to most people.

Can you explain more why you wouldn't recommend working there? Seems like issues have stabilized and prospects are good.

[Anonymous User]

Which quality lit boutiques most often go under the radar? Current COA clerk looking to make sure I don't leave any good options unexplored. NY/DC preferred but open to other markets too.

There are no underrated lit boutiques because TLS overrates all litigation boutiques.

[Anonymous User]

Which quality lit boutiques most often go under the radar? Current COA clerk looking to make sure I don't leave any good options unexplored. NY/DC preferred but open to other markets too.

Depends on what you're looking for and what qualifies as a "boutique" for you, but a lot of clerks tend to like Patterson Belknap

I keep hearing that a lot of associates are slow there (and therefore getting screwed on bonuses), along with issues related to in-person attendance.

[pointplace]

Which quality lit boutiques most often go under the radar? Current COA clerk looking to make sure I don't leave any good options unexplored. NY/DC preferred but open to other markets too.

There are no underrated lit boutiques because TLS overrates all litigation boutiques.

I very much would say the opposite; coming from a top boutique, it is by far the best training you can receive as a young litigator. Be careful of going to an "underrated boutique" as boutiques can vary drastically--a good litmus test is to look at chambers and vault rankings for litigation-only firms and then look at the attorneys' credentials on those firms' websites.

[Anonymous User]

Reichman Jorgensen is a great place to work -- lots of patent work, but growing white collar, appellate, and complex civil practices as well

Above market, remote, no billable hours, lots of substantive experience early on

[Anonymous User]

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[Anonymous User]

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[gaddockteeg]

What city? In SF, there's a big boutique firm culture. The firms are super selective, generally have "better" exit opportunities than big law and better substantive experiences for younger lawyers.

I know of Farella Braun, Keker, Shartsis, I forget the name but Miranda Kane's law firm, Lewis Lewellyn, Durie Tangri, Braunhagey, and Coblentz. They generally all have revolving doors to the USAO and count members of the bench as alumni.

[hangtime813]

What city? In SF, there's a big boutique firm culture. The firms are super selective, generally have "better" exit opportunities than big law and better substantive experiences for younger lawyers.

I know of Farella Braun, Keker, Shartsis, I forget the name but Miranda Kane's law firm, Lewis Lewellyn, Durie Tangri, Braunhagey, and Coblentz. They generally all have revolving doors to the USAO and count members of the bench as alumni.

+1 to Gaddock (MTG reference?). If you are in SF and want to stay in SF, i'd definitely take a look at the above firms.

[Anonymous User]

If anyone is on this thread could you throw in some suggestions for Texas. I know there is Susman of course, but are there any lit type boutiques that pay biglaw or more that aren't Susman.

[Anonymous User]

If anyone is on this thread could you throw in some suggestions for Texas. I know there is Susman of course, but are there any lit type boutiques that pay biglaw or more that aren't Susman.

Yetter Coleman

[Anonymous User]

Which quality lit boutiques most often go under the radar? Current COA clerk looking to make sure I don't leave any good options unexplored. NY/DC preferred but open to other markets too.

There are no underrated lit boutiques because TLS overrates all litigation boutiques.

I very much would say the opposite; coming from a top boutique, it is by far the best training you can receive as a young litigator. Be careful of going to an "underrated boutique" as boutiques can vary drastically--a good litmus test is to look at chambers and vault rankings for litigation-only firms and then look at the attorneys' credentials on those firms' websites.

This is the reason the comparably prestigious big law firms in NY and DC are better avenue. Formalized training, more resources, wider array of top practice groups, maybe a top corporate department that feeds litigation work, for at least one of the V5, small rotations that give you a small firm experience. Plus, stability (I think Elsberg is now opening his own shop? lol)

[Anonymous User]

If anyone is on this thread could you throw in some suggestions for Texas. I know there is Susman of course, but are there any lit type boutiques that pay biglaw or more that aren't Susman.

AZA

[Anonymous User]

What city? In SF, there's a big boutique firm culture. The firms are super selective, generally have "better" exit opportunities than big law and better substantive experiences for younger lawyers.

I know of Farella Braun, Keker, Shartsis, I forget the name but Miranda Kane's law firm, Lewis Lewellyn, Durie Tangri, Braunhagey, and Coblentz. They generally all have revolving doors to the USAO and count members of the bench as alumni.

Curious about under the radar boutiques (read: not Molo, Wilkinson, Susman, etc.) in NY and DC.

[Anonymous User]

How about Krieger and Lewin? Do they pay market? How picky are they?

[Contango]

If anyone is on this thread could you throw in some suggestions for Texas. I know there is Susman of course, but are there any lit type boutiques that pay biglaw or more that aren't Susman.

Gibbs & Bruns
Beck Redden

Also come to mind as Houston litigation boutiques that tend to hire several UT Law grads each year and are quite selective in those hires. Don't really know anything about the culture of either.

[gaddockteeg]

What city? In SF, there's a big boutique firm culture. The firms are super selective, generally have "better" exit opportunities than big law and better substantive experiences for younger lawyers.

I know of Farella Braun, Keker, Shartsis, I forget the name but Miranda Kane's law firm, Lewis Lewellyn, Durie Tangri, Braunhagey, and Coblentz. They generally all have revolving doors to the USAO and count members of the bench as alumni.

+1 to Gaddock (MTG reference?). If you are in SF and want to stay in SF, i'd definitely take a look at the above firms.

Hah yes, I don't actually know anything about the game though. It was a running joke among some friends a long time ago that I look like that character (I obv disagree).

[Anonymous User]

What city? In SF, there's a big boutique firm culture. The firms are super selective, generally have "better" exit opportunities than big law and better substantive experiences for younger lawyers.

I know of Farella Braun, Keker, Shartsis, I forget the name but Miranda Kane's law firm, Lewis Lewellyn, Durie Tangri, Braunhagey, and Coblentz. They generally all have revolving doors to the USAO and count members of the bench as alumni.

Curious about under the radar boutiques (read: not Molo, Wilkinson, Susman, etc.) in NY and DC.

DC and NY do not have the same boutique culture as in SF/LA.

[Anonymous User]

What city? In SF, there's a big boutique firm culture. The firms are super selective, generally have "better" exit opportunities than big law and better substantive experiences for younger lawyers.

I know of Farella Braun, Keker, Shartsis, I forget the name but Miranda Kane's law firm, Lewis Lewellyn, Durie Tangri, Braunhagey, and Coblentz. They generally all have revolving doors to the USAO and count members of the bench as alumni.

Curious about under the radar boutiques (read: not Molo, Wilkinson, Susman, etc.) in NY and DC.

DC and NY do not have the same boutique culture as in SF/LA.

Many consider Susman and Kellogg the two best boutiques and they're in NY and DC. Then there's Molo, Wilkinson, and others with presences in both cities. DC has many respected political / appellate boutiques.