Cooper & Kirk / Consovoy Forum

[Anonymous User]

Does anybody have insight into these firms? Culture, hours, pay? Do they accept laterals with appellate experience, or do they only do post-clerkship hiring? Are any other conservative DC appellate shops similarly regarded? Thanks!

[The Lsat Airbender]

Are any other conservative DC appellate shops similarly regarded?

They're all regarded

[Anonymous User]

The only other two that come to mind are Lehotsky Keller and Clement Murphy.

[Anonymous User]

Does anybody have insight into these firms? Culture, hours, pay? Do they accept laterals with appellate experience, or do they only do post-clerkship hiring? Are any other conservative DC appellate shops similarly regarded? Thanks!

Cooper & Kirk is more intense and pays market; Consovoy is less intense but pays below market. Both accept laterals with (exceptional) appellate experience. Consovoy takes on mostly radioactive cause work; Cooper & Kirk takes some hot-button cases but also does ordinary commercial work. Cooper & Kirk has a couple liberals; Consovoy does not. Cooper & Kirk is more "Alito"; Consovoy is more "Thomas". If you're in the running for either of these firms you'll know what that means.

Clement & Murphy and Lehotsky Keller offer great conservative opportunities and have a greater share of appellate work. They pay below market, though. Kellogg Hansen has a conservative partnership and pays above market but it doesn't do much cause work. Other firms, such as Schaerr Jaffe and Ellis George Cippolone, do the work you're looking for but don't attract top talent reliably.

[Anonymous User]

I dunno anything about them and never see them on cases but Boyden Gray & Associates are tiny but seem to have superb SCOTUS connections

[Anonymous User]

Cooper & Kirk are more “lawyer’s lawyers” who try cases and work on non political stuff etc vs Consovoy is more ADF-but-private. My feeling is that Consovoy used to have a more balanced practice than it does now.

[Anonymous User]

Does anybody have insight into these firms? Culture, hours, pay? Do they accept laterals with appellate experience, or do they only do post-clerkship hiring? Are any other conservative DC appellate shops similarly regarded? Thanks!

Cooper & Kirk is more intense and pays market; Consovoy is less intense but pays below market. Both accept laterals with (exceptional) appellate experience. Consovoy takes on mostly radioactive cause work; Cooper & Kirk takes some hot-button cases but also does ordinary commercial work. Cooper & Kirk has a couple liberals; Consovoy does not. Cooper & Kirk is more "Alito"; Consovoy is more "Thomas". If you're in the running for either of these firms you'll know what that means.

Clement & Murphy and Lehotsky Keller offer great conservative opportunities and have a greater share of appellate work. They pay below market, though. Kellogg Hansen has a conservative partnership and pays above market but it doesn't do much cause work. Other firms, such as Schaerr Jaffe and Ellis George Cippolone, do the work you're looking for but don't attract top talent reliably.

What’s the training like at Consovoy? I’ve heard it’s remote only. Do associates get substantive experience?

[Anonymous User]

Does anybody have insight into these firms? Culture, hours, pay? Do they accept laterals with appellate experience, or do they only do post-clerkship hiring? Are any other conservative DC appellate shops similarly regarded? Thanks!

Cooper & Kirk is more intense and pays market; Consovoy is less intense but pays below market. Both accept laterals with (exceptional) appellate experience. Consovoy takes on mostly radioactive cause work; Cooper & Kirk takes some hot-button cases but also does ordinary commercial work. Cooper & Kirk has a couple liberals; Consovoy does not. Cooper & Kirk is more "Alito"; Consovoy is more "Thomas". If you're in the running for either of these firms you'll know what that means.

Clement & Murphy and Lehotsky Keller offer great conservative opportunities and have a greater share of appellate work. They pay below market, though. Kellogg Hansen has a conservative partnership and pays above market but it doesn't do much cause work. Other firms, such as Schaerr Jaffe and Ellis George Cippolone, do the work you're looking for but don't attract top talent reliably.

What’s the training like at Consovoy? I’ve heard it’s remote only. Do associates get substantive experience?

Consovoy does have some office space in the DC suburbs but it’s remote-first.

[thirdandlong]

What kind of credentials do these places look for? I assume a Court of Appeals clerkship is a must.

[Anonymous User]

I'm not going to go looking for it, but there's a relatively recent thread here that got into details about some of the top-tier right wing shops in D.C. that's worth a read. A quick search should yield it.