Fordham OCI CBs and DINGS List Forum

[MaxK1985]

CALLBACK LIST and DING LIST:

When stating who you got callbacks from, please state the firm plus interviewer. Thanks.

CALL BACKS:

Greenberg
Baker
Kay
Milbank
Winston
Jones Day
W&C
K&H
Strook
Weil
Frommer
Dentons
Latham
Dechert

Dings:

Chadbourne
Cooley
Sidley
Strook
H&K

[DonGately]

Bump.

Interested in finding out as well.

[Anonymous User]

I had slightly better grades w/ secondary journal and no moot court. Had 11 interviews, 2 callbacks. Struck out. In retrospect, my interviewing wasn't very good, my resume was crappy, and I bid too aggressively. My advice: bid conservatively... no 2+'s. The firm list that you get is way too optimistic. Overall though, you have a good shot.

[Anonymous User]

Top 20% means you can expect approximately 10-15 CBs, depending on bid strategy.
Don't do what my friend did last year and rank your bids alphabetically

[Anonymous User]

Top 20% means you can expect approximately 10-15 CBs, depending on bid strategy.
Don't do what my friend did last year and rank your bids alphabetically

Bolded is far from accurate. Aside from the fact that no one can *expect* CBs (there were people on LR last year that got 2-3 CBs from 20+ screening interviews), there is simply no way OP can expect 10-15 CBs. A *good* conversion rate is 50-75%. OP can probably expect 10-15 screeners with smart bidding and, with good interviewing, can convert 5-10 of them to CBs and maybe look forward to 2-4 offers. Maybe.

OP should absolutely be mass-mailing and hitting up the hospitality tables throughout OCI.

[Anonymous User]

Top 20% means you can expect approximately 10-15 CBs, depending on bid strategy.
Don't do what my friend did last year and rank your bids alphabetically

Bolded is far from accurate. Aside from the fact that no one can *expect* CBs (there were people on LR last year that got 2-3 CBs from 20+ screening interviews), there is simply no way OP can expect 10-15 CBs. A *good* conversion rate is 50-75%. OP can probably expect 10-15 screeners with smart bidding and, with good interviewing, can convert 5-10 of them to CBs and maybe look forward to 2-4 offers. Maybe.

OP should absolutely be mass-mailing and hitting up the hospitality tables throughout OCI.

Sorry, I meant to say 10-15 interviews. CBs are an entirely different beast. Two people I know who had similar grades, similar extras, both 15-18 interviews, had 12 and 2 CBs, respectively.

[Anonymous User]

Top 20% means you can expect approximately 10-15 CBs, depending on bid strategy.
Don't do what my friend did last year and rank your bids alphabetically

How much does w/e count for? Also, how much does gpa play a factor for the group of people 16-25%? Are they all in relatively the same band and the resume matters more , or do the .01-.05 gpa differences still make a large impact on selection?

[Anonymous User]

Top 20% means you can expect approximately 10-15 CBs, depending on bid strategy.
Don't do what my friend did last year and rank your bids alphabetically

How much does w/e count for? Also, how much does gpa play a factor for the group of people 16-25%? Are they all in relatively the same band and the resume matters more , or do the .01-.05 gpa differences still make a large impact on selection?

I know for a fact that one v20 firm has a cut-off from Fordham of 3.5. And yes, .01 under would not be good enough. But once you meet that minimum standard you are in the same game as everyone else, and whether or not you get a cb/offer depends on how well you interview, your fit with the firm, resume, etc.

[Anonymous User]

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[Anonymous User]

Top 20% means you can expect approximately 10-15 CBs, depending on bid strategy.
Don't do what my friend did last year and rank your bids alphabetically

How much does w/e count for? Also, how much does gpa play a factor for the group of people 16-25%? Are they all in relatively the same band and the resume matters more , or do the .01-.05 gpa differences still make a large impact on selection?

I know for a fact that one v20 firm has a cut-off from Fordham of 3.5. And yes, .01 under would not be good enough. But once you meet that minimum standard you are in the same game as everyone else, and whether or not you get a cb/offer depends on how well you interview, your fit with the firm, resume, etc.

Which one has the 3.5 cutoff? . . Wish they would put that on simplicity . .

[Anonymous User]

Top 20% means you can expect approximately 10-15 CBs, depending on bid strategy.
Don't do what my friend did last year and rank your bids alphabetically

How much does w/e count for? Also, how much does gpa play a factor for the group of people 16-25%? Are they all in relatively the same band and the resume matters more , or do the .01-.05 gpa differences still make a large impact on selection?

I know for a fact that one v20 firm has a cut-off from Fordham of 3.5. And yes, .01 under would not be good enough. But once you meet that minimum standard you are in the same game as everyone else, and whether or not you get a cb/offer depends on how well you interview, your fit with the firm, resume, etc.

Which one has the 3.5 cutoff? . . Wish they would put that on simplicity . .

At the risk of outing myself/the firm, I'll just say that they were ranked highly by that sheet SBA passed out. But you're missing the much greater point here. The important thing to take away is that once you meet a firm's standard, it becomes all about the other factors discussed, such as your fit with the firm, how you interview, what you want to do and the firm's needs in a group, etc. And there were a ton of firms who asked for top 25% on simplicity, so if you bid smartly/on firms in your range then don't sweat your credentials and just focus on killing it in the interviews

[MaxK1985]

So, how do people feel about their bidlists? Anyone wanna share?

[Anonymous User]

Was anybody's OCI interview schedule released today? I saw my list and then returned to the page a few minutes later and the list was gone? Was I just imagining things?

[Anonymous User]

Was anybody's OCI interview schedule released today? I saw my list and then returned to the page a few minutes later and the list was gone? Was I just imagining things?

Schedule released now. 3.5, secondary journal, MC, 18 interviews

[Anonymous User]

Was anybody's OCI interview schedule released today? I saw my list and then returned to the page a few minutes later and the list was gone? Was I just imagining things?

Schedule released now. 3.5, secondary journal, MC, 18 interviews

Wow, nice bidding. Do you have W/E?

[Anonymous User]

Was anybody's OCI interview schedule released today? I saw my list and then returned to the page a few minutes later and the list was gone? Was I just imagining things?

Schedule released now. 3.5, secondary journal, MC, 18 interviews

Wow, nice bidding. Do you have W/E?

Thanks! Yes, I had 3 years at a biglaw firm.

Anybody else care to share? About that time...

[Anonymous User]

Was anybody's OCI interview schedule released today? I saw my list and then returned to the page a few minutes later and the list was gone? Was I just imagining things?

Schedule released now. 3.5, secondary journal, MC, 18 interviews

Wow, nice bidding. Do you have W/E?

Thanks! Yes, I had 3 years at a biglaw firm.

Anybody else care to share? About that time...

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[Anonymous User]

Pretty similar to the poster above. High 3.5, secondary journal, moot court. But no work experience. Got 18 screeners (1 of which is from resume advance).

[Anonymous User]

Just wanted to drop in and wish everyone good luck. I participated in Fordham OCI back a few years ago and now that I have a couple years of V20 litigation experience under my belt and have seen the process from the other side, I know just how much luck is involved. For what its worth I had a top GPA and ended up with 20+ screeners. From there I only had 4-6 callbacks and 1-3 offers. In the end it only takes 1, and I am at a place that some people choose over gobs of other offers, but nevertheless it put a scare into me. The lesson, treat every interview like it's your only one and practice practice practice so you don't sound out of it like I did!

[Anonymous User]

Just wanted to drop in and wish everyone good luck. I participated in Fordham OCI back a few years ago and now that I have a couple years of V20 litigation experience under my belt and have seen the process from the other side, I know just how much luck is involved. For what its worth I had a top GPA and ended up with 20+ screeners. From there I only had 4-6 callbacks and 1-3 offers. In the end it only takes 1, and I am at a place that some people choose over gobs of other offers, but nevertheless it put a scare into me. The lesson, treat every interview like it's your only one and practice practice practice so you don't sound out of it like I did!

Hey, when people get your firm by lotto at OCI, is there a hard cut-off?
Or can a great interview go a long way?

[Anonymous User]

Anybody else pleasantly surprised by the # of firms going to be at the hospitality suites? It seems like even if you didn't get what you wanted there's still plenty of opportunity to.schmooze

[Anonymous User]

Just wanted to drop in and wish everyone good luck. I participated in Fordham OCI back a few years ago and now that I have a couple years of V20 litigation experience under my belt and have seen the process from the other side, I know just how much luck is involved. For what its worth I had a top GPA and ended up with 20+ screeners. From there I only had 4-6 callbacks and 1-3 offers. In the end it only takes 1, and I am at a place that some people choose over gobs of other offers, but nevertheless it put a scare into me. The lesson, treat every interview like it's your only one and practice practice practice so you don't sound out of it like I did!

Hey, when people get your firm by lotto at OCI, is there a hard cut-off?
Or can a great interview go a long way?

While junior associates aren't exactly privy to that information, I think there is a mostly hard cutoff, but if you are close then there is wiggle room for exceptions.

[Anonymous User]

Anybody else pleasantly surprised by the # of firms going to be at the hospitality suites? It seems like even if you didn't get what you wanted there's still plenty of opportunity to.schmooze

Maybe I am totally off, but I feel like to get an interview from all these alternative measures you have to have a pretty spectacular personality.

[Anonymous User]

Anybody else pleasantly surprised by the # of firms going to be at the hospitality suites? It seems like even if you didn't get what you wanted there's still plenty of opportunity to.schmooze

Maybe I am totally off, but I feel like to get an interview from all these alternative measures you have to have a pretty spectacular personality.

And hit their grade cutoffs

[Anonymous User]

Just wanted to drop in and wish everyone good luck. I participated in Fordham OCI back a few years ago and now that I have a couple years of V20 litigation experience under my belt and have seen the process from the other side, I know just how much luck is involved. For what its worth I had a top GPA and ended up with 20+ screeners. From there I only had 4-6 callbacks and 1-3 offers. In the end it only takes 1, and I am at a place that some people choose over gobs of other offers, but nevertheless it put a scare into me. The lesson, treat every interview like it's your only one and practice practice practice so you don't sound out of it like I did!

Echoing the above, especially the bolded.
Also, w/r/t it just taking 1? I was seriously disappointed that I only had 3 CBs after screeners... but 1 of those was my top choice, and that's where I wound up. Hang in there and good luck!