Top-Law-Schools.comTLS
Home
Law School
Admissions
Law
Schools
Law
Students
TLS
Forums
 
Rankings and Profiles     Dean Interviews     LSAT Preparation

Latest TLS Forum Posts

This page is updated every minute and includes all posts that do not require a login to view.

Re: Biglaw ($180k) vs. Startup (70-80k, 9-5) with minimal debt  
  by: Pokemon   on: June 24, at 7:19:55 pm   in: Legal Employment

hokuspokus wrote:Why did you even go to law school?
What about going to a smaller firm where people work 40-50 hour weeks? They do exist you know.


http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278840

Re: NY Bar Exam Application  
  by: ds2826e   on: June 24, at 7:18:12 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I passed the NYLE today and thought this was the last piece that I needed before I was certified to the Third Department to submit my character & fitness paperwork. I called BOLE to determine when my certification letter would be emailed to me and apparently my law school hasn't yet returned the Certificate of Attendance form that I emailed to the Registrar on May 15. I had to take a lot of d...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=181184

Re: Columbia Transfer 2017  
  by: NoDayButToday   on: June 24, at 7:11:54 pm   in: Transfers

documentingtransfer wrote:Made an account to help with transfer statistics. Accepted 6/23. Top 5% T1.

Thank you - and this is not one of my two friends, based on those stats, so we now know of at least three accepted to CLS last week.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=278309

Re: My Offer Acceptance Criteria  
  by: conker   on: June 24, at 7:11:11 pm   in: Choosing a Law School

carsondalywashere wrote:
conker wrote:
carsondalywashere wrote:Cool pretentious thread title bro

just no
It's ridiculous. You haven't even sat for the lsat yet. Shut the fuck up

You're being overly aggressive and you're not welcomed here anymore.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=278878

Re: Columbia Transfer 2017  
  by: documentingtransfer   on: June 24, at 7:08:42 pm   in: Transfers
Made an account to help with transfer statistics. Accepted 6/23. Top 5% T1.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=278309

Re: My Offer Acceptance Criteria  
  by: carsondalywashere   on: June 24, at 7:08:32 pm   in: Choosing a Law School

conker wrote:
carsondalywashere wrote:Cool pretentious thread title bro

just no
It's ridiculous. You haven't even sat for the lsat yet. Shut the fuck up
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=278878

Re: 2017 Texas OCI (UT/SMU/Baylor/UH + Others)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 24, at 7:07:45 pm   in: Legal Employment
Does anyone know when law review/write-on results come out? Don't want to apply broadly until I know.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278779

Re: My Offer Acceptance Criteria  
  by: conker   on: June 24, at 6:58:51 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
Anyone have anything to say about my relative, somewhat general rankings before I apply? Sticker: HYS CCN MVP Small scholly/sticker (depending on other acceptances): Northwestern, Berkeley, Cornell Moderate/ small scholly (depending on other acceptances): Duke, Vanderbilt CCN Full ride/not going (depending on other acceptances): WashU MVPDNB Approach: apply to all top 20 schools w...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=278878

Re: My Offer Acceptance Criteria  
  by: conker   on: June 24, at 6:56:10 pm   in: Choosing a Law School

carsondalywashere wrote:Cool pretentious thread title bro

just no
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=278878

Re: My Offer Acceptance Criteria  
  by: conker   on: June 24, at 6:55:52 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
One general note: Virginia, Duke, Michigan, Northwestern, Cornell, and Berkeley are all basically equivalent for generic biglaw goals. Obviously there are some regional considerations, but they're all peers, and cost should be the biggest distinguishing factor. None are good at sticker -- that's too much money (unless you have a super rich family, in which case just do whatever). Cost probably sh...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=278878

Re: DC Firms?  
  by: grades??   on: June 24, at 6:35:18 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
grades?? wrote:Good luck. Traditionally, DC is the most competitive market to land. Top 20% at t13 kids strike out at DC all the time. Dont not try, but it will be pretty unlikely to snag a traditional big law gig in DC. Best of luck.

Figured as much. I'll brace for striking out then.

I would just hustle hard. But cast a wide net because biglaw is not likely.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278960

Re: Interests section on resume?  
  by: clshopeful   on: June 24, at 6:33:03 pm   in: Legal Employment
I took interests off my resume because I thought it was more natural to say my interests when I was asked, rather than recite the ones on my resume or have to think of new ones in the interview [also needed more room for employment history]
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=188515

Re: Michigan OCI 2017  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 24, at 6:31:26 pm   in: Legal Employment
3.56 SF/NYC OP here. I appreciate both of y'all giving me advice on this. I don't think I'm a shoe in for any of the elite NYC firms at all, but I definitely think I'm in the competitive range for all of them except maybe Skadden (which seems to have a hard 3.6 cutoff). I'm also a pretty good interviewer and am in the upper quartile of the normal social/interpersonal skills scale. I'm basically t...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278320

Re: Adaptibar user hangout - July 2017  
  by: lolabear727   on: June 24, at 6:29:59 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong - but part of me feels like the adapitbae percentage is misleading. I'm at 58% but I feel as if I'm significantly improving in most topics. But it also feels like I'm having an uphill climb getting the % up. Is it accurate to say that I can't really miss any questions at this point to get my % to go up. Maybe change your dates on your dashboard. I change min...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=277548

Re: DC Firms?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 24, at 6:27:03 pm   in: Legal Employment

grades?? wrote:Good luck. Traditionally, DC is the most competitive market to land. Top 20% at t13 kids strike out at DC all the time. Dont not try, but it will be pretty unlikely to snag a traditional big law gig in DC. Best of luck.

Figured as much. I'll brace for striking out then.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278960

Re: Need advice on all fronts  
  by: anonaccount2018   on: June 24, at 6:24:04 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
1) you've got really lofty goals for an extreme splitter 2) don't think about transferring. transferring is not a backdoor that allows you to end-around a low uGPA. plus, transferring rarely helps someone land a better job. the *best* that can come from transferring is to get you into a certain job market and even then, without pre-existing ties, it's a tough sell. 3) Joint degrees aren't of use ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=278954

Re: Need advice on all fronts  
  by: pancakes3   on: June 24, at 6:11:34 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
1) you've got really lofty goals for an extreme splitter 2) don't think about transferring. transferring is not a backdoor that allows you to end-around a low uGPA. plus, transferring rarely helps someone land a better job. the *best* that can come from transferring is to get you into a certain job market and even then, without pre-existing ties, it's a tough sell. 3) Joint degrees aren't of use e...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=278954

Re: Need advice on all fronts  
  by: anonaccount2018   on: June 24, at 5:55:18 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Why do you want to be a lawyer? I'm asking you what your goals are. Ah, sorry for being a dummy and not understanding--thanks for the clarification. I am interested in administrative law. I'm considering enrolling in a JD/MPP program to help with that goal, although I understand that's not a necessity and will probably only do so if the extra year of school wouldn't present a significant financia...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=278954

Re: Black Letter Law - UBE July 17  
  by: BulletTooth   on: June 24, at 5:40:31 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can someone explain to me how to tell the difference is between an executory interest and remainders? I am v confused An executory interest is a future interest in a third person that cuts short the previous estate before before it would have naturally terminated. A remainder is a future interest in a third party that is intended to take effect after the natural termination of the preceding estat...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278253

Re: Michigan OCI 2017  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 24, at 5:39:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
3.56 SF/NYC OP here. I appreciate both of y'all giving me advice on this. I don't think I'm a shoe in for any of the elite NYC firms at all, but I definitely think I'm in the competitive range for all of them except maybe Skadden (which seems to have a hard 3.6 cutoff). I'm also a pretty good interviewer and am in the upper quartile of the normal social/interpersonal skills scale. I'm basically tr...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278320

Re: Penn Law transfer  
  by: rintintin   on: June 24, at 5:36:09 pm   in: Transfers
Thanks! I will be attending. Was gonna finish up apps at other places but Penn was my top choice. Best of luck to those waiting
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=278398

Re: DC Firms?  
  by: grades??   on: June 24, at 5:13:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
Good luck. Traditionally, DC is the most competitive market to land. Top 20% at t13 kids strike out at DC all the time. Dont not try, but it will be pretty unlikely to snag a traditional big law gig in DC. Best of luck.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278960

Re: Michigan OCI 2017  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 24, at 5:10:59 pm   in: Legal Employment
You keep on twisting my words, but it doesn't matter. We don't disagree on the advice to give the poster above. The point of my coming on the thread was to say that if you're at a firm's 25th percentile, you likely are at least flirting with their GPA cut-off. Then, since most firms won't look at your GPA much after they determine it's good enough for them, you shouldn't write those firms off beca...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278320

DC Firms?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 24, at 5:05:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
Looking for some advice on what, if any, DC firms I could target due to fiance's relocation to the area. I'm already licensed there and my law school's state, but don't have the usual additional VA/MD bar combo. Beginning a D.Ct. clerkship in 2018 in the Midwest; Completed a SSC clerkship with a year at a mid-sized firm in my law school's market (left b/c of bad culture in a practice group I wasn'...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278960

Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group  
  by: abujabal   on: June 24, at 4:59:27 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Not to double post, but a further analysis of what questions I got wrong and why reveals some interesting thoughts that I thought I should document (mainly for my own sake, but maybe y'all will find them useful) - For RC, I need to divorce my own interest from particular passages (I was very interested in Passage 1 personally, so I spent a little more time than I should have thinking about it out...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=275537

Re: Columbia Transfer 2017  
  by: Nebby   on: June 24, at 4:54:45 pm   in: Transfers
There's no one in the CLS Transfer c/o 2019 group except current students. I just messaged the group admin to inquire if acceptances have gone out
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=278309

Re: Need advice on all fronts  
  by: AJordan   on: June 24, at 4:40:52 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Pretty much every applicant without >75s needs to have a compelling reason for why they want to be a lawyer. If you're not bumping both sets of reportable numbers a school wants to feel like they can count on you to bump numbers on the back end. That requires graduating and passing the bar. Motivation is neither sufficient nor necessary to navigating through legal education but in the end the pers...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=278954

Re: Official Kaplan July 2017 Bar Thread  
  by: Nonconsecutive   on: June 24, at 4:37:46 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
While I like Chris Fromm's lecturing style, I do find it kind of annoying/odd that he has to explain 3000 times why his suit changes. I get it.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=277953

Re: Kaplan MBE Midterm vs Actual MBE  
  by: jdk   on: June 24, at 4:30:28 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
my midterm score: 135 my final score: 133 my actual MBE score: 163 After the midterm I had to focus on state law, which explained the drop in my score from the midterm to the final. Kaplan purposefully makes the questions tricky because they (and I) believe that you learn best when you do things wrong and then make the correction. I wouldn't say the questions are more difficult...just more nuanced...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278944

Re: Penn Law transfer  
  by: Bartolomeus   on: June 24, at 4:28:20 pm   in: Transfers
Ya'll admitted folks planning to attend?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=278398

Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel  
  by: clshopeful   on: June 24, at 4:28:15 pm   in: Legal Employment
If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby. Department of Justice Yes, all 10,000,000 DOJ lawyers are bad. This is what I was referring to. Last thing we need on TLS is even more generalizations. How can this thread even be taken seriously. You work on a case with opposing counsel at firm X. The 3 people you work with are all rude and are disrespectful. Therefore, the entire 12 office, 12...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278901

Re: Michigan OCI 2017  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 24, at 4:26:34 pm   in: Legal Employment
Not good advice then. It seems like you disagree with me that "Most firms have a relatively hard GPA cut-off, but then look to other factors once you meet it," given that you talk about it being risky to interview at firms you just meet the cut-off for. You talk about it as if you get a certain amount of points at each screener for each .01 of your GPA, and that you need a certain amoun...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278320

Re: Interests section on resume?  
  by: jaekeem   on: June 24, at 4:25:03 pm   in: Legal Employment
Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but it's a good one, and I didn't see one from the last month+ on this topic. I'm trying to think of what to put in my interests section for all types of legal employers including firms and judges (for clerkship apps). These are some of my thoughts: linguistics card games (e.g., Euchre) spicy food hostels OR staying in hostels volunteering personal growth Myers...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=188515

WUSTL 2017 EIW + Off Campus Programs  
  by: splitterfromhell   on: June 24, at 4:19:16 pm   in: Legal Employment
It's about time to get this started since EIW bidding is just about over and direct sends have started to yield interviews. I'll do my best to keep this post updated all summer with the latest info. Good luck. EIW MCGC Diversity Fairs SEMW Misc. Paul Weiss NY direct send through CCD is out. Last year's thread http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=266124
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278959

Re: Interests section on resume?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 24, at 4:12:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but it's a good one, and I didn't see one from the last month+ on this topic. I'm trying to think of what to put in my interests section for all types of legal employers including firms and judges (for clerkship apps). These are some of my thoughts: linguistics card games (e.g., Euchre) spicy food hostels OR staying in hostels volunteering personal growth Myers...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=188515

Re: Changes in LSAT scores of applicants  
  by: rowdy   on: June 24, at 4:11:19 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
*sigh* do I have to do this?

Retake
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=278948

Re: Interests section on resume?  
  by: A. Nony Mouse   on: June 24, at 4:09:51 pm   in: Legal Employment
But really the best things to put are whatever you can have an engaging informed conversation about during an interview.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=188515

Re: Interests section on resume?  
  by: A. Nony Mouse   on: June 24, at 4:08:51 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'd put volunteering but with more specificity - like the local humane society, big brother/sister? Pick one or mabe two if you volunteer at a bunch of places. Also hostels sounds like a weird way to say traveling.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=188515

Re: GULC Students Taking Questions  
  by: Mr. Blackacre   on: June 24, at 4:03:46 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Any thought on these section 1 profs? Civ pro: Abernathy Property: Byrne Torts: Peller Crim: Lopez Contracts: Velikonja No Spann for §1 torts? You're missing out. Although you get the Scaliagate guy so that's... something. Abernathy is fun. Abernathy is the rite of passage for Section 1. He's very tough and likes to put on a show like in The Paper Chase, but he is actually a good professor. Study...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=253271

Re: Interests section on resume?  
  by: jaekeem   on: June 24, at 4:03:16 pm   in: Legal Employment
Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but it's a good one, and I didn't see one from the last month+ on this topic. I'm trying to think of what to put in my interests section for all types of legal employers including firms and judges (for clerkship apps). These are some of my thoughts: linguistics card games (e.g., Euchre) spicy food hostels OR staying in hostels volunteering personal growth Myers...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=188515

Re: Interest rates rise to 6% (Direct loans) and 7% (GradPLUS loans)  
  by: star fox   on: June 24, at 4:01:41 pm   in: Financial Aid

uhwrestler wrote:meanwhile in germany all university tuition at all levels is free.....plus gov healthcare

and people keep saying were the richest country in the world
Cry me a river that the gubmint won't fully fund your ability to obtain a license that will pay you $180K. Be grateful you got an open source of capital for it.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=277655

Re: Interests section on resume?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 24, at 3:56:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but it's a good one, and I didn't see one from the last month+ on this topic. I'm trying to think of what to put in my interests section for all types of legal employers including firms and judges (for clerkship apps). These are some of my thoughts: linguistics card games (e.g., Euchre) spicy food hostels OR staying in hostels volunteering personal growth Myers-...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=188515

Re: Reach Firms  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 24, at 3:49:14 pm   in: Legal Employment
I was an associate at wlrk and I can tell you grades are asolutely the most important factor with your ability to think creatively and on your feet a close second.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278932

Re: June 2017 Waiters Thread- Dowsing for 180s  
  by: NavyNuke   on: June 24, at 3:45:03 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum

Slippin' Jimmy wrote:
NavyNuke wrote:Anybody have a list of the schools in the T20 that have a "why X school" essay option?
From my research it seems like UVA, Michigan, Duke, Cornell and UT really want to see why X essays, especially if you are from out of state/region. I'm planning on writing one for each of those.

Awesome. Thanks!
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=278560

Re: Penn Law transfer  
  by: Lawstudent5   on: June 24, at 3:43:58 pm   in: Transfers
Posting a little late but I was admitted this week too!
Two days after interview
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=278398

Re: Biglaw ($180k) vs. Startup (70-80k, 9-5) with minimal debt  
  by: hokuspokus   on: June 24, at 3:39:44 pm   in: Legal Employment
Why did you even go to law school?
What about going to a smaller firm where people work 40-50 hour weeks? They do exist you know.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278840

Re: Need advice on all fronts  
  by: guybourdin   on: June 24, at 3:29:46 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Why do you want to be a lawyer? I'm asking you what your goals are.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=278954

Re: Advice for job seeker in public sector?  
  by: hokuspokus   on: June 24, at 3:28:56 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP here. As an update,I got a small firm job. It's not what I wanted but the pay is alright and I should be ok for the time being. Good luck to all job seekers out there.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278540

Re: Kaplan MBE Midterm vs Actual MBE  
  by: Suprman37   on: June 24, at 3:21:57 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
This is encouraging, but would be nice to know a score for the kaplan final. You could have learned a lot more between the midterm and taking the test. After the MBE midterm, I was doing all state specific law lectures. I didn't even do any of the contracts stuff for Kaplan because I started late and couldn't make them up. I didn't get better from learning more black letter law. If you want to im...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278944

Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel  
  by: Monochromatic Oeuvre   on: June 24, at 3:13:22 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Pro pers and solos from TTTTs. Although I had a basic negligence case with a very reasonable and not outrageous 2016 Infilaw grad. Compared to the usual ones I deal with, he was great to work with.

A 2016 Infilaw grad had a case big enough to demand a legitimate firm's time? And he was actually handling it well?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278901

Re: 2017 July California Bar  
  by: jagsta   on: June 24, at 3:06:18 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi Everyone, I passed the bar in Feb. and my heart goes out to all the folks grinding it out right now. I know what its like after having taken this beast twice. I don't think I realized the enormity of it all until I was post-passing the exam. That is why I'm making myself available for encouragement, someone to talk to, or technical tips on getting over the hump. DM me and we can exchange info. ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=274836

Re: Michigan OCI 2017  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 24, at 2:58:58 pm   in: Legal Employment
Not good advice then. It seems like you disagree with me that "Most firms have a relatively hard GPA cut-off, but then look to other factors once you meet it," given that you talk about it being risky to interview at firms you just meet the cut-off for. You talk about it as if you get a certain amount of points at each screener for each .01 of your GPA, and that you need a certain amount...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278320

Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017  
  by: axel.foley   on: June 24, at 2:50:43 pm   in: Legal Employment
I've never been to a summer reception but the invites came in. Other than being a normal human being and not being desperate af, any advice on how to make the event worth it? Eat and drink a lot. But seriously, practice talking to lawyers, see what's on their mind. That's what will help you for OCI. I never went to any of those events, just always felt too forced to socialize, awkward, and having...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=277188

Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist  
  by: calpolisci2016   on: June 24, at 2:49:32 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
I'm comfortable saying this now because it's been over two weeks, but I had my follow-up WL phone call the first full week of June, at which point I was told it was likely they would "finalize the rest of the WL offers next week." (meaning the week of 6/12 through 6/16) I don't quite remember all the details of the call, but I was left with the impression that I would know something def...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=275991

Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel  
  by: barkschool   on: June 24, at 2:45:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby. Department of Justice Yes, all 10,000,000 DOJ lawyers are bad. This is what I was referring to. Last thing we need on TLS is even more generalizations. How can this thread even be taken seriously. You work on a case with opposing counsel at firm X. The 3 people you work with are all rude and are disrespectful. Therefore, the entire 12 office, 12...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278901

Re: Need advice on all fronts  
  by: anonaccount2018   on: June 24, at 2:36:44 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
1) don't put hard deadlines on when to start law school. that's putting the cart before the horse. your primary goal right now is to max out your LSAT so don't just try to crack 170 - keep working at it until you do crack it. 2) own your past and own your sobriety. while it's true that you have C&F issues, they become less and less of an issue with 1) time and 2) honesty. always disclose and ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=278954

Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017  
  by: 2014   on: June 24, at 2:36:40 pm   in: Legal Employment
I've never been to a summer reception but the invites came in. Other than being a normal human being and not being desperate af, any advice on how to make the event worth it? Either be memorable in a positive way or be mostly anonymous and use it for information gathering. Being on the attendance list is important but after that any benefit will require someone to remember your name and conversat...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=277188

Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group  
  by: abujabal   on: June 24, at 2:36:28 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
A tremendous flop of a PT today that leaves me incredibly disappointed in my performance: PT 53 LR1: -4 (-4 BR) | 32:05 LG: -0 (No BR) | 36:55 LR2: -6 (-4 BR) | 29:36 RC: -8 (-5 BR) | 35:00 Score: 164 (168 BR) -- This was really just a fantastically horrendous flop of a test for me that I'm quite annoyed about. For one, that RC score is not to my standard - I'm typically -1 to -3 on these sections...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=275537

Re: July 2017 Texas Bar Exam  
  by: TheWalrus   on: June 24, at 2:31:52 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
What are everyone's plans for the Texas Civ Pro and Texas Evidence subjects?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=277211

Re: GULC Students Taking Questions  
  by: ball is life   on: June 24, at 2:30:23 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate

88234 wrote:Contracts: Spann
CivPro: Hyman
Torts: Rothstein
LW: Abrams

Thoughts? I'm in section 2.

How did you find out which small sections you're in?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=253271

Re: Rising 2L Seeks OCI Advice - Which firms value GPA the most?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 24, at 2:30:09 pm   in: Legal Employment
I finished 1L in the top 1% of my class at a school ranked in the 50s. No plans to transfer, but would like to capitalize on the GPA and ranking and secure a 2L SA position which will hopefully yield an offer after grad. Judicial extern this summer and solid work experience prior to law school for several years. Targeting the Nor Cal with ties to the area, but also would consider other markets an...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278950

Re: Let's talk 11th Circuit!  
  by: lavarman84   on: June 24, at 2:27:21 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships

Anonymous User wrote:According to OSCAR for William Pryor:

"The judge has already hired for the 2017-18, 2018-19, 2019-20 terms."

So I assume he's all full for 2019-2020?

Yep. I thought I had read that on OSCAR, but I couldn't remember for sure.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=205160

Re: Need advice on all fronts  
  by: guybourdin   on: June 24, at 2:27:09 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Why do you want to go to law school?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=278954

Re: Do I have a shot at Cravath?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 24, at 2:22:20 pm   in: Legal Employment
Yea I'm well above cutoff so was wondering. Thanks. If they've done pre OCI interviews in the past they will do them this year. The race is moving earlier not later and Cravath cares just as much as its peers about getting in front of the (perceived) best candidates before they are off of the market. I wouldn't take a "bid on us" response as a slight though, pre OCI interviews are like 9...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278851

Re: Penn Law transfer  
  by: Bartolomeus   on: June 24, at 2:22:01 pm   in: Transfers
Once again, congrats. Hope I'll get my call within the next few days.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=278398

Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017  
  by: clshopeful   on: June 24, at 2:17:50 pm   in: Legal Employment
I've never been to a summer reception but the invites came in. Other than being a normal human being and not being desperate af, any advice on how to make the event worth it? Eat and drink a lot. But seriously, practice talking to lawyers, see what's on their mind. That's what will help you for OCI. I never went to any of those events, just always felt too forced to socialize, awkward, and having...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=277188

Re: June 2017 Waiters Thread- Dowsing for 180s  
  by: Saylor1720   on: June 24, at 2:15:09 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum

LesPaul1995 wrote:Has anyone started studying for the September LSAT in case of a retake?

Haven't started studying. Waiting for release day. But I ordered all of my materials off amazon to be prepared.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=278560

Re: July 2017 -- Barbri UBE Hangout  
  by: RDA2930   on: June 24, at 2:12:27 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
It is beyond annoying that Barbri doesn't have a "report question" function where you can try to clarify some of their terrible explanations. The lack of functions and the way Barbri's website is designed makes me think they majorly cheaped out on web programmers. It's like something my cousin would have built when he was 16. Or they outsourced it's design to save money. The online MSQ ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278225

Re: Black Letter Law - UBE July 17  
  by: Sprout   on: June 24, at 2:10:21 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can someone explain to me how to tell the difference is between an executory interest and remainders? I am v confused
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278253

Re: California Attorney's Exam Study Schedule  
  by: sdphill   on: June 24, at 1:57:34 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I am taking the CA Attorney's exam in July. Because I suspected balancing work/study would be hard I started in early May- try to do 3-4 hours every day, and then really go at it on weekends. I'm doing the Barbri attorney's course so I try to follow their plan for the most part. Where you able to negotiate them don one the attorney's course price? It seems a little steep to be missing some compon...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278311

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017  
  by: saywhat88   on: June 24, at 1:52:27 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
to crim pro experts, i never took the course, but the themis lecture suggests that for automobile warrantless searches police can search if (1) arrestee is within reach of passenger compartment (or an area where there could be concealment of something that could endanger the cop) or (2) if the police have probably cause that the automobile contains contraband. it also states that the police can se...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278058

Re: Need advice on all fronts  
  by: pancakes3   on: June 24, at 1:50:42 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
1) don't put hard deadlines on when to start law school. that's putting the cart before the horse. your primary goal right now is to max out your LSAT so don't just try to crack 170 - keep working at it until you do crack it. 2) own your past and own your sobriety. while it's true that you have C&F issues, they become less and less of an issue with 1) time and 2) honesty. always disclose and a...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=278954

Re: Writing Sample from Current Firm  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 24, at 1:50:14 pm   in: Legal Employment
I've never asked permission and it's never been an issue. Change every recognizable attribute in the writing sample. For example, I once used a motion that I wrote as a summer associate in a patent litigation case. But the memo concerned an evidence issue, and the particulars of the technology were completely irrelevant. So in addition to changing the names of the parties, companies, people, and e...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278940

Re: GULC Students Taking Questions  
  by: usn26   on: June 24, at 1:48:23 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate

ball is life wrote:Any thought on these section 1 profs?

Civ pro: Abernathy
Property: Byrne
Torts: Peller
Crim: Lopez
Contracts: Velikonja

No Spann for §1 torts? You're missing out. Although you get the Scaliagate guy so that's... something.

Abernathy is fun.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=253271

Re: Rising 2L Seeks OCI Advice - Which firms value GPA the most?  
  by: BulletTooth   on: June 24, at 1:44:48 pm   in: Legal Employment
Your career services office should have information on firms' GPA cutoffs. Use this to gauge what the firms are looking for in terms of GPA. Just to get your list started: Munger, Davis Polk, Skadden, Latham, Gibson, and Arnold & Porter, have norcal offices and are known to look for high GPAs. As mentioned above, you may struggle getting offers from some of these firms coming from a T50 school...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278950

Re: networking summer before law school  
  by: renc56   on: June 24, at 1:43:47 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
SEOS, particularly those in NYC, are invited to these networking receptions. I had the opportunity as a 0L/SEO to go to my firm's reception earlier this summer and see how rising 2Ls interacted with attorneys. Prior to the students' arrival, our HR sent out a firm-wide e-mail with everyone's resume, the attendance list, and which candidates they had met at other events/wanted to keep in touch with...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=278891

Re: Personal Statement First Draft  
  by: zkyggi   on: June 24, at 1:43:12 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
Without experiences backing up that last paragraph, I don't see a lot of value in this topic for your PS. You didn't actually do anything, and the dialogue is pretty basic. You say that there were reasons keeping you from being more involved, my hunch is that starting there will be better for you. I appreciate the feedback but I don't think I could reframe it around why I didn't do more in the fu...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=278785

Re: 2.5X at UT. Targeting Texas.  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 24, at 1:40:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP. Thank you for all the helpful replies.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278906

Re: Do I have a shot at Cravath?  
  by: BulletTooth   on: June 24, at 1:36:37 pm   in: Legal Employment
I can confirm that I knew people at Cravath who did the 2-week victory lap--I think maybe even 4 weeks in some cases. Not a bad deal if you can get it.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278851

Re: June 2017 NYLE Thread  
  by: sdphill   on: June 24, at 1:35:19 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I will be taking this exam during the September administration. Are the questions similar to the one in the NYLC or are they fact patterns like the MBE? Just trying to decide how I should prep for this while going through the NYLC. Thanks for any advise.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278538

Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017  
  by: malibustacy   on: June 24, at 1:35:03 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:I've never been to a summer reception but the invites came in. Other than being a normal human being and not being desperate af, any advice on how to make the event worth it?

Eat and drink a lot. But seriously, practice talking to lawyers, see what's on their mind. That's what will help you for OCI.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=277188

Re: Better to reach out to hiring partner or alumni?  
  by: BulletTooth   on: June 24, at 1:29:14 pm   in: Legal Employment
BigLaw firm in a major market I know has an opening. If I want to reach out and network/express my interest, should I reach out to the hiring partner who is in the practice group they are hiring(but went to a diff school) or reach out to a random partner who is also in that practice group but is an alumni? Alternatively, would it be okay to reach out to the hiring partner first, then if he ignore...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278927

Re: Do I have a shot at Cravath?  
  by: 2014   on: June 24, at 1:28:09 pm   in: Legal Employment
If they've done pre OCI interviews in the past they will do them this year. The race is moving earlier not later and Cravath cares just as much as its peers about getting in front of the (perceived) best candidates before they are off of the market. I wouldn't take a "bid on us" response as a slight though, pre OCI interviews are like 90% reserved for people with connections or out of st...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278851

Re: July 2017 -- Barbri UBE Hangout  
  by: acijku2   on: June 24, at 1:24:26 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
It is beyond annoying that Barbri doesn't have a "report question" function where you can try to clarify some of their terrible explanations. The lack of functions and the way Barbri's website is designed makes me think they majorly cheaped out on web programmers. It's like something my cousin would have built when he was 16. Or they outsourced it's design to save money. The online MSQ ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278225

Re: Better to reach out to hiring partner or alumni?  
  by: 2014   on: June 24, at 1:23:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
Hiring partner is just going to forward your resume to recruiting, alums are wild cards between ignoring, sending to recruiting, or actually providing help. To over generalize, associates are less helpful but more willing to try and be helpful.

I would do one of the alum options, leaning associate if you have nothing in common with the partner beyond school.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278927

Re: Columbia Transfer 2017  
  by: NoDayButToday   on: June 24, at 1:15:49 pm   in: Transfers
I think one submitted in the first week of June. Does seem quite early, but there you have it.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=278309

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017  
  by: MelaPela   on: June 24, at 1:12:56 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I agree that there is some peculiarity with the Themis questions, but think it's worth it to do the Themis MBEs because it does familiarize you with some nuance and there aren't that many questions really. I am also doing adaptibar and think it's questions are more representative (being actual MBE qs after all), but the Themis answer explanations are often clearer. That's really good to know - I ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278058

Re: NY Bar Exam Application  
  by: Lawyerinwaiting89   on: June 24, at 1:10:26 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I passed the NYLE today and thought this was the last piece that I needed before I was certified to the Third Department to submit my character & fitness paperwork. I called BOLE to determine when my certification letter would be emailed to me and apparently my law school hasn't yet returned the Certificate of Attendance form that I emailed to the Registrar on May 15. I had to take a lot of d...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=181184

Re: Columbia Reserve Group c/o 2020  
  by: melmelcoolj   on: June 24, at 1:03:42 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
if placed on 2nd reserve, do you guys feel a second loci will help matters at this point? Yea I called yesterday and they said to send second loci via email. I think it does. I don't think they want anything long unless something meaningful has happened in the past month or whenever you sent your last LOCI. Just something short and to the point, "I want to go here." I also sent in a sho...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=274127

Re: Need advice on all fronts  
  by: anonaccount2018   on: June 24, at 12:59:54 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Left this out in the OP but I am a first-semester senior in Fall 2017 and am planning on applying Fall 2017 for admission for 2018-19 school year.

Edit: Also left out that I am a white male, so not a URM obviously, but should I write a diversity statement about my experience as an addict? Seems like overkill to me but I don't know.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=278954

Need advice on all fronts  
  by: anonaccount2018   on: June 24, at 12:55:50 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
PLEASE do not quote this post, thank you! This is definitely going to be a TL;DR type of post, so the short version of the story is: I'm a recovering drug addict/alcoholic, 25 years old, 2.5 years sober, C&F issues as well as lousy GPA and in need of help thinking about how to frame myself on law school apps also what to disclose/in what manner to disclose it. I absolutely do not want to hide ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=278954

Re: Better to reach out to hiring partner or alumni?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 24, at 12:54:40 pm   in: Legal Employment
BigLaw firm in a major market I know has an opening. If I want to reach out and network/express my interest, should I reach out to the hiring partner who is in the practice group they are hiring(but went to a diff school) or reach out to a random partner who is also in that practice group but is an alumni? Alternatively, would it be okay to reach out to the hiring partner first, then if he ignore...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278927

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017  
  by: whats an updog   on: June 24, at 12:53:54 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I agree that there is some peculiarity with the Themis questions, but think it's worth it to do the Themis MBEs because it does familiarize you with some nuance and there aren't that many questions really. I am also doing adaptibar and think it's questions are more representative (being actual MBE qs after all), but the Themis answer explanations are often clearer.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278058

Re: ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel  
  by: grand inquisitor   on: June 24, at 12:52:34 pm   in: Legal Employment
i loathe weil. quinn people have been really sweet.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278901

Re: MBE Question Thread  
  by: pancakes3   on: June 24, at 12:41:57 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
insufficient evidence means there's not enough evidence. weight of the evidence means the quality of the evidence. in the Themis practice problem, the mayor presented the defamatory article, which could be enough for a jury to review and find it defamatory. the degree to which the article is defamatory goes to the quality of the evidence. i'm doing Barbri and the JMOL questions pretty much accept ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278465

Re: GULC Students Taking Questions  
  by: Gray   on: June 24, at 12:40:06 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate

BmoreOrLess wrote:
88234 wrote:Contracts: Spann
CivPro: Hyman
Torts: Rothstein
LW: Abrams

Thoughts? I'm in section 2.

Spann is excellent and entertaining, but his exam is a total crapshoot.
Hyman is kind of mean but in a hilarious way. He definitely does not like gunners who love the sound of their own voice.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=253271

Re: GULC Students Taking Questions  
  by: ball is life   on: June 24, at 12:36:48 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Any thought on these section 1 profs?

Civ pro: Abernathy
Property: Byrne
Torts: Peller
Crim: Lopez
Contracts: Velikonja
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=253271

Re: MBE Question Thread  
  by: Puffman1234   on: June 24, at 12:33:59 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Civ Pro Question - JMOL Themis Outline: "the court may grant JMOL if the court finds that there is insufficient evidence for a jury reasonably to find for that party." Also Themis: "the court may not evaluate the weight of the evidence" MBE PQ: A mayor sued a blogger for defamation in federal district court under diversity jurisdiction. The mayor alleged in her complaint that ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278465

Re: Penn Law transfer  
  by: rintintin   on: June 24, at 12:29:12 pm   in: Transfers
Interviewed this week
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=278398

Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017  
  by: Anonymous User   on: June 24, at 12:20:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
I've never been to a summer reception but the invites came in. Other than being a normal human being and not being desperate af, any advice on how to make the event worth it?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=277188