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Re: Bomb the Simulated Written Essay; Literally Convulsing in a Panic Attack  
  by: placidstate   on: July 17, at 1:13:15 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Thanks so much for the response, and so sorry for the dramatic topic title (I wrote this after self-grading the essays and was in a pretty bad state/sense of hopelessness). After some tough love from family/friends and TLS advice, I managed to convince myself to push through and see it until the end (regardless of whether I fail or not). Thanks again, I really appreciate the response
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Re: NYU Law Transfer Thread 2019  
  by: DC2NY2x   on: July 17, at 1:09:05 pm   in: Transfers
No updates today? I figured there's going to be acceptances later this evening because the deposit deadline was today at noon, so it would make sense if some people went UR today.
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by: Vexed   on: July 17, at 1:05:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
Aside from the fact that it's apparently a massive issue if you ever want to work through a mark-up with someone who is remote, it's literally less efficient. Everything you do by hand you're going to have to do electronically anyways. I get it, some people just prefer marking by hand. Just seems odd that your problem with working from home is based on the inefficiency of the mark-up process when ...
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Re: NYU Law Transfer Thread 2019  
  by:   on: July 17, at 1:03:24 pm   in: Transfers
Nothing still?
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Re: Cornell Law Transfer 2019  
  by: johndiam   on: July 17, at 1:02:36 pm   in: Transfers
Anyone hear back?
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by: UnfrozenCaveman   on: July 17, at 1:01:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
As to how is it any of my business why they work from home - employers have always made it their business, that's where the concept of sick/personal/vacation days came from. To take a more middle of the road approach - if it truly has no impact on work then I don't really care. The issue I have (as do a number of more senior folks) is that it does impact my work when I have to waste time scanning...
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Re: Resume for Fed Gov Positions  
  by: Mobster1983   on: July 17, at 1:01:08 pm   in: Legal Employment
Not sure I agree with the above poster. Relatively new federal attorney here but everything I have heard is a federal resume should be more like a CV. Typically longer than page and needs to show how you meet every single qualification they are looking for. This may not apply quite as much for attorney, but it was the advice I got and it worked out. I had a fair amount of pre-law school experience...
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Re: Columbia Transfer 2019  
  by: johndiam   on: July 17, at 1:00:58 pm   in: Transfers
Anyone hear anything or speak with admissions? Seems like there hasn't been much movement.
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Re: Northwestern 2019 OCI  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 12:58:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anonymous poster from above. Point taken. I've dropped most of the Chicago firms down to the bottom except for the top nine, which I really want. I added in the New York firms. I want to be able to truthfully tell the Chicago firms I bid on them in case I need to canvas the city post-OCI Priorities for me are: [1] Securing litigation job [2] Working in Chicago - would take a lower-quality Chicago ...
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: jc9812   on: July 17, at 12:50:21 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
gonna post my stats since i found others' helpful

Submitted early January 19
notice of application complete: 2/20/19
"Notice: introduction to investigator" email: 7/12/19
Positive determination: 7/17/19
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 12:46:24 pm   in: Legal Employment
As to how is it any of my business why they work from home - employers have always made it their business, that's where the concept of sick/personal/vacation days came from. To take a more middle of the road approach - if it truly has no impact on work then I don't really care. The issue I have (as do a number of more senior folks) is that it does impact my work when I have to waste time scanning...
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Re: Pre-OCI 2019  
  by:   on: July 17, at 12:41:27 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Weil NY offer

When did you interview? I interviewed on Monday and haven't hear back.

Also, when did they call you?

Interview Monday. Call Tuesday evening.
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Re: Did I make a mistake  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 12:39:16 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Were only male summer associates invited to this outing? Or did the female summers just decline?

They all declined. Everyone was invited. It’s definitely not mandatory, so I guess I am feeling better about it? Also one of the other dudes will be on a clerkship interview, so I won’t be the only dude missing. I’m retrospect I may have been overreacting. Thanks for all the responses.
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 12:38:24 pm   in: Legal Employment
What's the protocol for re-applying after hearing nothing from an office? Wait 2-3 years? If so, do I need to put in fresh recommendation letters or just send a letter reiterating interest and updated resume?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=271001

Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: Dunnkirk85   on: July 17, at 12:30:38 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I messed up MBE Practice Exam-4 with 57%. I am so disappointed and do not know what to do for the rest of time. I would suggest taking a look at your overall breakdown for each MBE topic and then subtopic. See if you have serious weaknesses in big topic areas and focus on those. For example, if you're below the median % for your state in contract formation, take an hour to review that. That kind ...
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 12:29:40 pm   in: Legal Employment
For personal reasons, I’ve been working almost exclusively from home for the last two months. Nothing has substantively changed.

Being in the office is a total flame. Sometimes you even get in situations where you almost totally work with attorneys outside your office and, shocker, it works out just fine.
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Re: Did I make a mistake  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 12:29:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
Were only male summer associates invited to this outing? Or did the female summers just decline?
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: Dcc617   on: July 17, at 12:27:30 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

kasap wrote:I messed up MBE Practice Exam-4 with 57%. I am so disappointed and do not know what to do for the rest of time.

It sucks, but it wasn’t the real exam. ID your deficiencies and jump back on the horse. Also, 57% is a couple questions away from passing.
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Re: Northwestern 2019 OCI  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 12:27:20 pm   in: Legal Employment
Thank you! Anon from above. Point taken RE: V10's in NY and lower-ranked Chicago firms. Here's a revised order that adds in more NY firms and bumps the unlikely Chicago bids to the end so I can honestly tell them I bid on them in case I need to canvas Chicago post-OCI for a job. Is Kirkland a safe bet for a screener at that ranking? It seems as if it should be, but really don't want to get it wron...
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: Dunnkirk85   on: July 17, at 12:26:16 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Do people think practice exam 4 easier or harder than the others? I felt pretty good taking it overall. Do we know a target score?
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by: Vexed   on: July 17, at 12:13:30 pm   in: Legal Employment
As to how is it any of my business why they work from home - employers have always made it their business, that's where the concept of sick/personal/vacation days came from. To take a more middle of the road approach - if it truly has no impact on work then I don't really care. The issue I have (as do a number of more senior folks) is that it does impact my work when I have to waste time scanning...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=302044

Re: Did I make a mistake  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 12:09:34 pm   in: Legal Employment
“That being said, keep this incident in your back pocket. It's unlikely to happen, but imagine you get no offered and they claim it's because you weren't as involved in outings or some bs.” OP here. This is my worry. I freely admit I am the most reserved of all the Summers in my program. I’ve never missed an event, but I am obviously quieter/have a “smaller personality” than the other 6 associates...
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Re: Northwestern 2019 OCI  
  by: Mullens   on: July 17, at 12:02:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
Thoughts on bid list? 3.8, Law Review, Moot Court, TA, Substantial Work Experience, Diversity Applicant. Litigation oriented. Top 10 firms are "must have" interviews. No Skadden is intentional. Kirkland I cannot afford to miss out on - they are my number one firm and are also expecting me to interview. All firms outside the top 10 are ranked only by criteria, but I didn't order them in ...
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Re: Solo Practice Q&A  
  by: LockBox   on: July 17, at 12:01:07 pm   in: Legal Employment
How about conflicts checks? How do you deal with those and what would you recommend for new attorneys starting their practice regarding screening for conflicts for income clients? .law vs .com - is your site a .com site? Did you give any thoughts to a .law domain? Have you heard about any benefits or drawbacks to either/or? mac vs. pc - any thoughts on this? Are you a mac user? I have been using m...
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Re: Did I make a mistake  
  by: misterjames   on: July 17, at 11:55:26 am   in: Legal Employment
Did I just make a big mistake? A partner just invited me to go golfing this Friday. I was honest and said I have a medical condition which prevents me from golfing (think knee/back) for the time being. Also stated my clubs, shoes, etc are halfway across the country where I live (didn’t bring them home because knew I couldn’t play this summer). I feel like he understood, but now I am the only male...
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: kasap   on: July 17, at 11:53:31 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I messed up MBE Practice Exam-4 with 57%. I am so disappointed and do not know what to do for the rest of time.
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Re: Did I make a mistake  
  by: QContinuum   on: July 17, at 11:52:25 am   in: Legal Employment
No mistake. You have a medical condition that prevents you from safely participating in golfing. You should absolutely not have risked injuring yourself just to go on that golfing trip.
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Did I make a mistake  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 11:49:12 am   in: Legal Employment
My question has been answered and apparently was too easily identifiable (one of my fellow summers saw it and called me out ), so I am deleting the text. Thanks for all of the help!!!!
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Re: "resigned or been requested to resign in lieu of impending or anticipated disciplinary action"  
  by: SFSpartan   on: July 17, at 11:34:31 am   in: Legal Employment
There is really nothing to disclose here. This is really asking if you've ever had a meeting with an employer wherein an employer told you that you could resign or be fired. That isn't what happened to you (and is the exact reason that firms schedule these meetings, do stealth departures, etc.)
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Re: Bad Grades Interview Questions  
  by: HillandHollow   on: July 17, at 11:25:00 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I think it's best to roll the dice and bring it up.
If you're in front of a judge who WOULD care, then you get in front of it with a good explanation.
If you're in front of a judge who was not going to hold the grades against you anyway, I can't see how it would hurt you. At best, it would be a neutral addition.
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Re: Fordham Law Transfer 2019  
  by: alexancs1   on: July 17, at 11:12:40 am   in: Transfers
Sending so many good vibes your way!
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=302081

Re: Fordham Law Transfer 2019  
  by:   on: July 17, at 11:05:10 am   in: Transfers

alexancs1 wrote:TTT (in California) - Top 15% - 3.5

Very similar stats, hopefully I hear back soon! Congrats on your acceptance!
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Re: Fordham Law Transfer 2019  
  by: alexancs1   on: July 17, at 11:00:49 am   in: Transfers
TTT (in California) - Top 15% - 3.5
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Re: Anyone else notice this about big firm real estate finance groups?  
  by: lurker816   on: July 17, at 10:55:13 am   in: Legal Employment
I think a lot of the "lower-tier" schools (in NY specifically, at least) do an ok job of focusing their curriculum on this & carve out a bit more of a niche - e.g., I was interested in RE at NYU (and above median but not latin honors, if this matters, I guess) and there wasn't really a clinic for me to do, whereas schools like Brooklyn (at the very least) have clinics devoted to this...
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: houstonlaw468   on: July 17, at 10:48:48 am   in: Legal Employment
Any updates from SDTX, Houston vacancies?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=271001

Re: Columbia Transfer 2019  
  by: DC2NY2x   on: July 17, at 10:47:37 am   in: Transfers
Anyone know what the deposit deadline is for the latest accepted batch of students (was already dinged, but asking for the purpose of my NYU app)
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Re: Impact of Two Cancels  
  by:   on: July 17, at 10:47:02 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Thanks for the kind and understanding reply! I think nerves on test day likely influenced it somewhat (as in, going -4 on LR instead of a typical -2). I really screwed up on RC (my hardest section) for the June test, otherwise I would have probably scored in the high 160s. But honestly it just feels like I can’t win. I have done so many practice tests, yet that 26 question LR on Monday just came o...
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Re: Fordham Law Transfer 2019  
  by:   on: July 17, at 10:38:17 am   in: Transfers

alexancs1 wrote:Yes, I heard back on 6/26. The application went complete 10 days-ish earlier. That is where I'm heading.

I went complete a few days before you got a decision, but haven't heard anything. Passed up other schools (low 20s). Hoping I hear soon! The anxiety is deadly. Mind sharing your stats?
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Re: Fordham Law Transfer 2019  
  by: alexancs1   on: July 17, at 10:32:30 am   in: Transfers
Yes, I heard back on 6/26. The application went complete 10 days-ish earlier. That is where I'm heading.
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: Dahl   on: July 17, at 10:31:30 am   in: Legal Employment
Are there any other considerations (i.e., loans to pay off)? If not, and if you're not particularly risk averse, do whatever you prefer. If you're the type of person who would rather do political work, and you don't need the money, why bother with a firm at all? Just stay in politics.
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Re: Sidley Austin v. Sheppard Mullin (LA)  
  by: M458   on: July 17, at 10:28:14 am   in: Legal Employment
If you really liked Sheppard, I could maybe see an argument for going there, but the Diversity Scholarship makes this kind of a no-brainer. You never know if you'll even like big law, and $20k makes this decision a bit of a no-brainer.
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by: totesTheGoat   on: July 17, at 10:24:55 am   in: Legal Employment
As a counterpoint, this is not atypical at my current firm (to dip out slightly early Thursday and work remote Friday). The delayed response time is the issue. You have to be just as responsive and efficient if working remote. It's the people that go out and about doing things as if they're off, while working remote, that have it bite them in the ass. If only there were some recourse that a compa...
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Re: Magistrate clerkships cd ca  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 10:16:11 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
OP here: Thanks for the thoughtful responses. I’m not sure what I want to do career wise. I don’t think I want to return to private practice. I thinking clerking is probably the beat lit job there is, especially once you get to higher levels of federal pay. I make close to six figure, never work weekends, and don’t think about work at all once I leave my office at 5 or 6 every night. You also get ...
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Fordham Law Transfer 2019  
  by:   on: July 17, at 10:12:17 am   in: Transfers
Has anyone heard anything?
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Re: Bad Grades Interview Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 10:08:44 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
There's no good reason not to tell the truth if asked, and it sounds like you're pivoting from it about as well as you can ("I tried like hell to offset the stigma...," and with demonstrable success). Whether to bring it up yourself if the judge doesn't ask about your grades is a separate question; I still probably would if I could work it in somewhat naturally - it provides a more comp...
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Re: Pre-OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 10:07:14 am   in: Legal Employment
Offers from Skadden?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=301687

Re: Would I save money paying off interest before it capitalizes?  
  by: totesTheGoat   on: July 17, at 10:04:43 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
Just a quick point before I answer your question. $201k is an insanely large amount of money, and you have plenty of time to try to turn the ship before it hits that iceberg. In hindsight (as somebody who graduated with $180k in loans) I'd be pursuing any and every means of getting that number down, including using the financial aid office, the career office (to find school year paid work), and po...
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Re: Impact of Two Cancels  
  by: Morpheus   on: July 17, at 10:02:54 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I can't see two cancellations being a problem. Conventional wisdom is that aside from perhaps Yale and Stanford, schools only care about your highest score. I would think that holds true regardless of what else is on your record, be it cancellations or lower scores. As an aside, my LSAT experience mirrors yours almost to a T, so know you're not alone. I too am merely trying to have an average perf...
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Re: LSAT SCORE FROM 162 TO 175  
  by: enz2103   on: July 17, at 10:02:48 am   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi! Is it possible to get from 162 to 175 in 3 months? To answer your question directly: yes However, you will need to spend many hours studying every day. Going from 162 to 170 is much more likely. The 175 mark requires knowing the exam like the back of your hand. This means more than 50 practice tests for most people, 20 or more of which are in the target score range. What should I do in order ...
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Re: Pre-OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 10:02:36 am   in: Legal Employment
Does anyone know the turnaround time from a Skadden screener to a callback at their NY office? Thanks!
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: patent_guy   on: July 17, at 10:01:38 am   in: Legal Employment
I’ll provide a different take since the poll shows I’m not the only one voting for the firm but the discussion shows a bigger disparity. I’d take your firm job, at least to start. The way I see it, you have loans you say you need to pay back and this is the best way to knock those out as quick as you can. I’m also more risk averse, so ymmv and that’s fine. If you really want to get into politics, ...
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Re: Got everything done - how do I get admitted?  
  by: Borris   on: July 17, at 9:50:20 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Also, once you have fulfilled all of the requirements for admission (including MPRE and NYLC/NYLE) you will receive a notice of "certification" and likely also an email from the 3rd Department setting out all of the admission/documentation requirements (including a checklist).

Note: I am in the 1st Department, but am assuming the process is similar for all.
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Re: Academic LOR Question  
  by: enz2103   on: July 17, at 9:38:01 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum

cavalier1138 wrote:Grad professors are likely going to be better, especially if they can speak to the quality of your research. In your case, I'd definitely use your linguistics professor.

Thank you. I will get my LOR from her then.
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Re: Harvard Law Review and BSA  
  by: redpikachu   on: July 17, at 9:26:21 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
Are calls over now?
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: johngotti   on: July 17, at 9:22:56 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Any thoughts on the FL mc questions? I'm guessing Evidence will be on there since they tend to not test the same things twice in a row (famous last words I know). We've discussed the horror that are BE questions a bunch, I think it'd be 3 times in a row if they tested BE but there's clearly more material there than Wills.
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Re: Second Year Associate, let go from first big law gig and probably about to be let go again  
  by: totesTheGoat   on: July 17, at 9:20:42 am   in: Legal Employment
The only problem is I have no clue what to do with my life: I am one of those idiot K-JDs who just drifted into first law school, then big law out of inertia without figuring out what I wanted to do. So my question for the forum is this: what are some good career resources, both within law and otherwise, for helping me to figure this out now, and get an early head start on figuring out my next st...
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Re: Pre-OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 9:04:04 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Has anybody heard anything in Dallas? Someone said Texas is moving fast, is that just Houston?


I was the one who said that, and I'm seeing it in my Austin and Houston applications/the news I'm hearing from other applicants in those cities. I didn't submit any in Dallas so I can't speak to that.
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Re: "resigned or been requested to resign in lieu of impending or anticipated disciplinary action"  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: July 17, at 8:59:43 am   in: Legal Employment
I’d go a step further and say that the precise reason that these stealthy push outs are a thing is literally so one does not have to disclose them as standard adverse employment action in these and similar contexts.

So yeah—don’t disclose.
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Re: LSAT SCORE FROM 162 TO 175  
  by: totesTheGoat   on: July 17, at 8:58:49 am   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Possible? Sure. Likely? No.

It is almost always better to defer your law school hopes and dreams a year to get a substantially better LSAT score than to plow ahead with a mediocre score. If you don't hit your goal within 3 months, just try again next time.
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Re: Conflict Check as recent grad  
  by: yodamiked   on: July 17, at 8:56:31 am   in: Legal Employment
OP, you're way overthinking this. Every firm job I know of includes a conflicts check, whether you're just starting out or lateraling. That means every one of the thousands of first year associates starting in any of the BL firms have gone through this process, with the vast majority of them having done some legal work for some clients during their first summers at the very least. This is pretty m...
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Re: Pre-OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 8:49:17 am   in: Legal Employment
Has anybody heard anything in Dallas? Someone said Texas is moving fast, is that just Houston?
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Re: Northwestern 2019 OCI  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 8:27:21 am   in: Legal Employment
Thoughts on bid list? 3.8, Law Review, Moot Court, TA, Substantial Work Experience, Diversity Applicant. Litigation oriented. Top 10 firms are "must have" interviews. No Skadden is intentional. Kirkland I cannot afford to miss out on - they are my number one firm and are also expecting me to interview. All firms outside the top 10 are ranked only by criteria, but I didn't order them in t...
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LSAT SCORE FROM 162 TO 175  
  by: xuug   on: July 17, at 8:24:40 am   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi! Is it possible to get from 162 to 175 in 3 months? I have been studying for a month already and I'm averaging around 162 on my prep. tests (LG -3/-4) (LR -5/-8 in both sections) (RC -8/-9). I have read the Powerscore bibles and have been doing a total amount of 10 prep tests (from Prep. Test 1 to Prep. Test 10). What should I do in order to keep increasing my score and get to my target in the ...
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Re: Solo Practice Q&A  
  by: AVBucks4239   on: July 17, at 8:20:20 am   in: Legal Employment
AV - I know you're not big on internet leads, but do you SEO your website? Has that lead to any cases that you can at least refer out? If a lawyer is going to do this in a competitive market, do you that that lawyer could generate at least some leads just off a well SEO'd website with great content? Thanks, The extent of my SEO is to make sure my law firm website comes up first when someone Googl...
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Re: Solo Practice Q&A  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 8:07:36 am   in: Legal Employment
AV - I know you're not big on internet leads, but do you SEO your website? Has that lead to any cases that you can at least refer out? If a lawyer is going to do this in a competitive market, do you that that lawyer could generate at least some leads just off a well SEO'd website with great content?

Thanks,
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: icansortofmath   on: July 17, at 7:55:01 am   in: Legal Employment
Defer. Do campaign. Find another biglaw job if you need/want to. With an SA under your belt and a legitimate reason, you probably won’t have a hard time transitioning back if you want to.
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Re: "resigned or been requested to resign in lieu of impending or anticipated disciplinary action"  
  by: icansortofmath   on: July 17, at 7:42:22 am   in: Legal Employment

Lancair wrote:To me, “disciplinary action” implies some sort of misconduct other than unsatisfactory performance. Eg - please resign because we caught you submitting false expenses or creeping on co-workers, not because your billables are low.

Agree with this. I don’t think underperformance fits.
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Re: "resigned or been requested to resign in lieu of impending or anticipated disciplinary action"  
  by: encore1101   on: July 17, at 7:39:48 am   in: Legal Employment
Doesn't seem like it fits. Being asked to resign in lieu of impending termination usually sounds like "You can either quit, or you can be fired." You were told "Improve your work, and let's reassess in a few months." They may have been dissatisfied with your work, but it didn't reach the level of asking you to resign yet. Now, they may have been planning on saying something to ...
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Re: Penn Transfer 2019  
  by: Collective   on: July 17, at 7:33:48 am   in: Transfers
In as well. Attending. Feel free to get in touch if you are also attending or have other questions about my process.
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Re: Solo Practice Q&A  
  by: AVBucks4239   on: July 17, at 7:11:53 am   in: Legal Employment
AvBucks- I believe you said you do appointment work, correct?How do you join the court’s appointment system? Do I just call my local courthouse? What kind of work do you get from this... criminal? Family law? Has it been a good experience? Thanks. Depends on your local jurisdiction. I would call your county bar association and they would be able to let you know. Overall I think it is good experie...
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Re: "resigned or been requested to resign in lieu of impending or anticipated disciplinary action"  
  by: Lancair   on: July 17, at 7:08:15 am   in: Legal Employment
To me, “disciplinary action” implies some sort of misconduct other than unsatisfactory performance. Eg - please resign because we caught you submitting false expenses or creeping on co-workers, not because your billables are low.
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Re: Second Year Associate, let go from first big law gig and probably about to be let go again  
  by: icansortofmath   on: July 17, at 7:03:51 am   in: Legal Employment
On the MD thing.

One of my relatives told me he found emergency room to be least stressful. Patient is out of your hand by the end of shift and most hospitals have strict guidelines on your hours (liability and also because if you press the docs too hard, they’ll just go somewhere else.)

Just ask around. I am sure there is something that suits your work style.
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Re: Pre-OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 6:25:18 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Weil NY offer

When did you interview? I interviewed on Monday and haven't hear back.

Also, when did they call you?
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Re: Magistrate clerkships cd ca  
  by: nixy   on: July 17, at 5:45:31 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
If you already have a district court clerkship and a different magistrate clerkship I think the only reason to do another magistrate clerkship would be to transition to a new market. And that would be because it would be a year in the market to get to know people, make connections, and find something new, rather than the experience of the clerkship per se. I guess my question is what you want to g...
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Re: Personal Statement Feedback (1st Draft)  
  by: cavalier1138   on: July 17, at 5:04:57 am   in: Law School Personal Statements
You're right that it's trying to do too much. As a result, I can't tell what your main theme is.

Pick a single topic: I'd recommend an Americorps experience or the importance of higher ed (maybe through the lens of a study-abroad experience?). I would save the family stuff for your diversity statement.
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Re: Letters of Rec 4 Years Out of School  
  by: cavalier1138   on: July 17, at 5:00:42 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Thanks for that insight! Definitely helpful. Why do you say LSAT will weight more than LORs? Is that a result of my low GPA, or just standard for how adcomms weigh them relative to one another? Both. LSAT/GPA are 90-95% of the admissions equation. Your GPA is low for any T13 school, so your LSAT is going to be the crucial factor. If it's not above the 75th percentile for a given school, your chan...
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Re: Academic LOR Question  
  by: cavalier1138   on: July 17, at 4:58:26 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Grad professors are likely going to be better, especially if they can speak to the quality of your research. In your case, I'd definitely use your linguistics professor.
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Re: Second B.A.  
  by: cavalier1138   on: July 17, at 4:57:02 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum

nixy wrote:TBF, the OP says they withdrew from the non-ABA school, not that they failed out.

True. I may have read a little too much between the lines there. If the withdrawal was voluntary and OP's grades were ok, I think the fact that it wasn't ABA-accredited may actually work in his favor (no chance of courses being counted for credit, etc.).
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Academic LOR Question  
  by: enz2103   on: July 17, at 4:39:14 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Does it matter whether my academic letter of recommendation comes from an undergraduate or postgraduate professor? Background: I have a BA from Columbia and an MA from Duke. I will have four years of work experience (three at my current company) when I apply to law school. My supervisor has already agreed to write me a strong letter when the time comes, so that just leaves the academic letter(s). ...
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Re: Bomb the Simulated Written Essay; Literally Convulsing in a Panic Attack  
  by: Moabit   on: July 17, at 4:18:20 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

placidstate wrote: Freaking out, thinking about dropping out. HELP...
What??? As a client, I would like to have an attorney who is tough enough not to freak out from a marketing ploy of a business whose livelihood hangs on instilling anxiety in its customers. Remember that the bar exam is a minimum competency exam; as long as you are putting down enough hours towards studying, you will be fine.
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Re: "resigned or been requested to resign in lieu of impending or anticipated disciplinary action"  
  by:   on: July 17, at 4:01:28 am   in: Legal Employment
Agreed. Per those facts, OP, I don't think that you have anything to disclose with respect to that question/issue.
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Re: Barbri Final Prep Exam  
  by:   on: July 17, at 3:57:26 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

265489164158 wrote:I thought I saw it in one of the books?

I did the BARBRI online self-study program this past winter and I could have sworn that the practice exam was printed in one of the books.
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Re: Bomb the Simulated Written Essay; Literally Convulsing in a Panic Attack  
  by:   on: July 17, at 3:51:22 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
OP, as the others above have advised, definitely do not drop out. The BARBRI graded essays/MPTs are graded very rigorously by whomever they hire to do the grading of those submissions. FWIW, I sat for and passed the February 2019 Texas Bar Exam and I prepped with BARBRI's online self-study program (PSP). I studiously followed the PSP and, IIRC, there were a total of five graded homework assignment...
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Re: Northwestern 2019 OCI  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 17, at 2:42:30 am   in: Legal Employment
3.8x GPA, Law Review, Moot Court, Affinity Group VP, TA, diverse Thoughts on bid list? Top 10 firms on the list are the "must interviews" for me. The other firms I don't feel strongly about, but would of course prefer to maximize screeners. Kirkland I cannot miss - they are my #1 and are expecting me to interview. 1. Sidley Austin (Litigation) Chicago 2. Mayer Brown Chicago 3. Jenner &am...
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Re: Anyone else notice this about big firm real estate finance groups?  
  by: 64Fl   on: July 17, at 1:10:32 am   in: Legal Employment
How do you know what their grades were I mean I'm speaking anecdotally but one of them had to take a required 3L bar class reserved for people with sub 3.0 GPAs, the rest (and my sample pool is 5 people from my class), none of them have latin honors on their profiles where others at the firm do. Just thought it was an odd coincidence. I'm not saying you're wrong, but a lot of people don't list la...
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Re: Bomb the Simulated Written Essay; Literally Convulsing in a Panic Attack  
  by: SilvermanBarPrep   on: July 17, at 1:03:51 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Don't let this test cause you to drop out. Learn from these mistakes and then do your best when it actually counts! Barbri scores low--always has, always will.

Sean (Silverman Bar Exam Tutoring)
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Re: "resigned or been requested to resign in lieu of impending or anticipated disciplinary action"  
  by: 64Fl   on: July 17, at 12:58:50 am   in: Legal Employment
Yeah, I don't think you have anything to disclose here.
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Re: Second Year Associate, let go from first big law gig and probably about to be let go again  
  by: QContinuum   on: July 17, at 12:57:55 am   in: Legal Employment
I'm sorry, OP. I would actually suggest finding a mental health professional as a first step. I don't think it makes sense to blithely decide on your big step while depressed and desperate; that would only take you further down the same kind of road that led you to do K-JD followed by BigLaw. Get your depression treated, then you'll be in a better state of mind to consider what you're actually pas...
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Re: Second Year Associate, let go from first big law gig and probably about to be let go again  
  by: Wild Card   on: July 16, at 11:31:28 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm deeply sorry to hear about your situation and hope you feel better soon. I've been getting plenty of emails from recruiters, and many of them (in their form emails) offer to talk to me about career options and paths. Unfortunately, I don't know whether they mean it. Have you considered reaching out to a trustworthy recruiter? -- Also, my firm isn't doing well--both I and many of my classmates ...
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"resigned or been requested to resign in lieu of impending or anticipated disciplinary action"  
  by:   on: July 16, at 11:22:50 pm   in: Legal Employment
I’m probably over thinking this but just wanted to see if anyone has been in a similar situation. I will be applying to waive into another state and one question is “Have you ever resigned or been requested to resign in lieu of impending or anticipated disciplinary action by an employer.” I started practicing in BigLaw about eight years ago. After two years I was unhappy with my firm for a variety...
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Re: Venable In-Office Interviews  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 11:06:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
No info on interviews, but be cautious of Venable. Their CA offices have some particularly bad and difficult partners. I would only accept an offer from them if you have no other better options.
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Re: Magistrate clerkships cd ca  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 10:43:42 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Same anon at 11:55pm. I agree with you: if you have no desire to practice in SoCal and already have a District Court clerkship and a Magistrate Clerkship on your resume, I do not see how a follow-on magistrate clerkship (unless it's a Circuit) is going to help you professionally (beyond just one more mentor and network of fellow clerks). But it depends on entirely what you want to do. I cannot see...
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Second Year Associate, let go from first big law gig and probably about to be let go again  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 10:41:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
Hi everyone, I am currently a second year associate at a large biglaw firm. I lateraled here after being given the firm three month handshake from my first firm. My hours are low, and in my mid year check in, this was highlighted, as well as my "choppy" work product; my partner mentor told the workflow manager for us to have a check in meeting "at the end of the summer" (i.e., ...
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Re: Conflict Check as recent grad  
  by: icansortofmath   on: July 16, at 10:27:18 pm   in: Legal Employment
I have literally never heard of any new associate failing a conflict check.

Some people had to sign waivers and what not but nobody “failed.”
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 10:15:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
It has been internally posted. I believe they said all of them will be released at the same time though so thats probably why it's not public
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: beeoBoop   on: July 16, at 9:51:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
Everyone has made a good point: signal that it's a request and not a deal breaker if they say no. I think a good way to do this is that, after asking for the extension, to express your excitement to join the firm and work with the partner you'd be assigned to. Enthusiasm is key
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: Loquitur Res   on: July 16, at 9:39:30 pm   in: Legal Employment
Im gonna echo what many others have said: ask for a delayed start date. I did and my firm was happy to grant it. My reason wasn't even as cool as working for a presidential campaign. I simply wanted to spend extra time traveling abroad and visiting my parents (who also live in another country). Hiring partner (and other partners in the firm) thought it was a great idea. Worst thing that happens is...
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 9:27:13 pm   in: Legal Employment
So much for posting the LR masthead on Monday... I wonder what the holdup is.
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Re: Letters of Rec 4 Years Out of School  
  by: dvlthndr   on: July 16, at 9:18:24 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
You should try to get at least one academic recommendation letter. Having none at all is a bit weird. The worst thing that happens is that they write something impersonal ("I knew this person at one point, they did well in my class, I think they would be fine in law school.") They might ask you to write up a first-draft summarizing your interactions and reminding them of your academic pe...
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Re: Conflict Check as recent grad  
  by: dvlthndr   on: July 16, at 9:08:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
They usually want a list of your former clients and any parties you were adverse to. To a lesser extent, a brief description of what you worked on and the approximate time that you worked on the matter is helpful. Just be smart about it and deliver the information in a coherent format. I haven't seen entry-level associates denied based on conflicts. I've seen laterals get turned down on rare occas...
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Re: Letters of Rec 4 Years Out of School  
  by: FutureLawyer92   on: July 16, at 9:06:38 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Thanks for that insight! Definitely helpful. Why do you say LSAT will weight more than LORs? Is that a result of my low GPA, or just standard for how adcomms weigh them relative to one another?
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: WinterComing   on: July 16, at 9:05:25 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

chickennuggets wrote:How are you guys seeing how many total MBE questions you've done?

On the course progress drop down, you can click on "MBE PQ" by the chart (or on "view overall progress" and then on the MBE PQs). It takes you to a page showing the total number of questions you've done and breaking down your overall performance by subject.
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Re: Aiming for Texas biglaw  
  by: nealric   on: July 16, at 8:47:02 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
Current UT student. I love Texas Law, and the 33% for Biglaw number that gets thrown around is dated, people up to and at median are having no trouble finding Biglaw jobs, but OP should only go to Texas if it's free. While you would have a convincing case from the entire T14, I work at a Dallas BL firm and see more Stanford, UChi, Duke, and UVA grads than the other T14s. The same is more or less ...
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Re: Testmasters referral code?  
  by:   on: July 16, at 8:45:30 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
If anyone needs a referral code >>> X468-DFDE
Will save you $100.
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Re: Northwestern 2019 OCI  
  by: beeoBoop   on: July 16, at 8:35:01 pm   in: Legal Employment
3.66, secondary journal, targeting Chicago Lit. (Then DC, NYC in that order). Screener with Mayer DC so not bidding them OCI. Don't feel like bidding Jones Day (do I need to?). Does this make sense? What firms should I slot in after 18? I'm planning on using all 40 bids, but after 18 it's kind of a mish-mash. 1 Sidley Austin (Lit) Chicago IL 20 2 Foley Chicago IL 40 3 Katten Chicago IL 40 4 DLA P...
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Re: Northwestern 2019 OCI  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 8:00:09 pm   in: Legal Employment
3.66, secondary journal, targeting Chicago Lit. (Then DC, NYC in that order). Screener with Mayer DC so not bidding them OCI. Don't feel like bidding Jones Day (do I need to?). Does this make sense? What firms should I slot in after 18? I'm planning on using all 40 bids, but after 18 it's kind of a mish-mash. 1 Sidley Austin (Lit) Chicago IL 20 2 Foley Chicago IL 40 3 Katten Chicago IL 40 4 DLA Pi...
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: chickennuggets   on: July 16, at 7:50:20 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
How are you guys seeing how many total MBE questions you've done?
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Re: Conflict Check as recent grad  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 7:47:44 pm   in: Legal Employment
Bump.

Similar situation, as a first-time lateral though
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Re: Northwestern 2019 OCI  
  by: Mullens   on: July 16, at 7:44:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
Looking for some last minute advice on my bid list. 3.72, Moot Court, Secondary Journal. Looking for litigation, all NYC below. Deliberately left off S&C, STB, Weil, Skadden, and K&E because of pre-oci interviews (results pending). 1 WHITE & CASE LLP 2 PROSKAUER 3 CAHILL GORDON & REINDEL 4 GOODWIN PROCTER LLP 5 WILMERHALE 6 CADWALADER WICKERSHAM & TAFT LLP 7 PAUL HASTINGS 8 PA...
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Re: Personal Statement feedback  
  by:   on: July 16, at 7:40:48 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
This sounds like a good start and it seems like you have some good material to work with. Like the previous poster said, just narrow in on a specific topic (I know it can be difficult.)
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Re: Roast my PS please  
  by:   on: July 16, at 7:35:36 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
I would agree with trying to choose another topic.
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Re: Second B.A.  
  by: nixy   on: July 16, at 6:30:55 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
TBF, the OP says they withdrew from the non-ABA school, not that they failed out. Although it's true that only your first BA will count for rankings, doing well on your second BA will help show that you've put your earlier issues behind you. So I suspect you'll do pretty well .
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Sidley Austin v. Sheppard Mullin (LA)  
  by:   on: July 16, at 6:07:14 pm   in: Legal Employment
Interested in corporate/transactional/RE. Was offered a Sidley Diversity Scholarship as well.
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Re: Solo Practice Q&A  
  by: Anonesq   on: July 16, at 5:59:35 pm   in: Legal Employment
AvBucks- I believe you said you do appointment work, correct?How do you join the court’s appointment system? Do I just call my local courthouse? What kind of work do you get from this... criminal? Family law? Has it been a good experience?

Thanks.
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: pumpkinspicedchai   on: July 16, at 5:59:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
I know an associate at a big firm in a smaller market requested a delay to run her mom's campaign for city council, but she earned some leverage by offering to let the firm assign her to whichever practice group they needed her most when she came back. She ended up in a practice area that she spent no time in during her summer. You could offer something like that if you're okay with that kind of u...
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: cavalier1138   on: July 16, at 5:50:19 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Also I disagree with the above. The exceptions to the general rules are important for the exam and the real exam isn’t just going to test the big picture. It’s building blocks. You get the foundational rules in the 5 subject sets and now you’re building on those basic rules with new exceptions in mixed questions. Bar Bri students are doing the same thing. I would definitely go back and make sure ...
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: sparty99   on: July 16, at 5:43:33 pm   in: Legal Employment
I would ask for a delay and if they say , "No," then i would work at the firm. I had a colleague Associate who joined my prior firm after Hillary Clinton's failed campaign (and by prior firm, I mean insurance defense litigation boutique). Working for a campaign is no different then public interest salary. If you have six figures in debt (or even 200k) you will be well served by going int...
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: JusPassItToWill   on: July 16, at 5:42:46 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
One thing I've noticed about the essays (at least for my state) is that they include just enough information in the prompt to cover the particular rule they're asking about. In that case, if I don't have any idea what the rule is, or I know the rule but don't remember it exactly, I can see what information I haven't used yet and try to reverse engineer the rule from that information. Seems to work...
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Re: Second B.A.  
  by: cavalier1138   on: July 16, at 5:40:44 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Your second BA will not count for your LSAC GPA, which will likely be a rating based on whatever your foreign GPA converts to in the LSAC system. If you performed poorly in that first BA program, that may have a negative impact on your chances, but a 175 would normally give you a great shot at some top schools. I say "normally," because the rest of your history is likely to cause some se...
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: jman77   on: July 16, at 5:38:04 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

ReasonablePersonSSC wrote:I just received a positive determination on my moral character application from the State Bar—SWEET!
I submitted a comprehensive answer to their request for more information about a lengthy employment gap, and within 33 minutes received a positive determination!

Congratulations!
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: jman77   on: July 16, at 5:35:51 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I am licensed to practice law outside of California. I practiced federal law in California for 3 years before taking and passing the bar. I included that info in my moral character application and stressed that I solely appeared before federal judges for federal matters. My analyst informed me that my file needs to be reviewed by another attorney to ensure that I was not engaged in the unauthoriz...
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Re: Letters of Rec 4 Years Out of School  
  by: cavalier1138   on: July 16, at 5:34:46 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Your LSAT is going to be far more important than your LORs, but I'd strongly recommend reaching out to professors. If you knew them well in undergrad, I think at least one is likely to remember you. Your boss at your current job will be fine, but adcomms really want to see at least one letter from someone who can speak to your performance in an academic context.
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Re: Anyone else notice this about big firm real estate finance groups?  
  by: 2013   on: July 16, at 5:33:08 pm   in: Legal Employment
That can be said about most speciality groups that aren’t subgroups of corporate or lit. It’s harder to fill positions in some specialties so firms are willing to dip a little lower
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Re: Northwestern 2019 OCI  
  by: yyyuppp   on: July 16, at 5:24:19 pm   in: Legal Employment
Looking for some last minute advice on my bid list. 3.72, Moot Court, Secondary Journal. Looking for litigation, all NYC below. Deliberately left off S&C, STB, Weil, Skadden, and K&E because of pre-oci interviews (results pending). 1 WHITE & CASE LLP 2 PROSKAUER 3 CAHILL GORDON & REINDEL 4 GOODWIN PROCTER LLP 5 WILMERHALE 6 CADWALADER WICKERSHAM & TAFT LLP 7 PAUL HASTINGS 8 PA...
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: jman77   on: July 16, at 5:12:24 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I am breaking my self-imposed moratorium on posting on this forum as I believe what I am posting now will be helpful to others who are in a similar situation (i.e., licensed in another state and trying to get licensed in CA). The issue I posted on a few months ago was a complete non-issue (despite what some self-proclaimed/self-styled "experts" -- ok, one in particular -- spouts here). A...
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: HairySmokeball   on: July 16, at 4:59:09 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
These Themis writers...geez. How can a porcupine be sunning itself if it's camouflaged in the leaves?

Seriously, though; I am so over this pain. Let it end. Please.
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: Dunnkirk85   on: July 16, at 4:52:12 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Also I disagree with the above. The exceptions to the general rules are important for the exam and the real exam isn’t just going to test the big picture. It’s building blocks. You get the foundational rules in the 5 subject sets and now you’re building on those basic rules with new exceptions in mixed questions. Bar Bri students are doing the same thing. I would definitely go back and make sure y...
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: Dunnkirk85   on: July 16, at 4:46:47 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Anyone else get killed by that secured transactions essay with the clocks/vacuums? The rules about priorities for PMSIs in inventory vs. previously perfected security interest are so hyper-specific. I completely whiffed on them. Terrible. The one after was even worse.The model answer was outrageous on it. No kidding I would get a 1 or maybe a 2 if I’m lucky on either of those. Praying no Secured ...
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Re: NYU Law Transfer Thread 2019  
  by: DC2NY2x   on: July 16, at 4:23:01 pm   in: Transfers
Also, worth mentioning that the guy at admissions said they still have open spots and have already sent out dings. So if you are still under review you're in the game, but they are holding to see the "entire applicant pool". I figure that after tomorrow (deadline for those accepted during the week of the 4th) and the last deadline (somewhere in the last week of July) are gonna be heavy ...
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Re: NYU Law Transfer Thread 2019  
  by: Jhyland10   on: July 16, at 4:10:56 pm   in: Transfers
Yikes it’s been so long but timeline is something like UR1-6/18, UR2-6/24, UR3-7/8. Best of luck to all hoping we get the call this week!
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Re: 2L SA wanting to clerk question  
  by: Anon-non-anon   on: July 16, at 3:59:57 pm   in: Legal Employment
The question is based on the assumption I get a permanent offer to join the firm where I am an SA this summer. I’m doing litigation and I keep feeling the urge to do a clerkship—preferably a federal one—after graduating. I posed this question to an associate who told me that they may not have a spot for me when I want to come back. I love the firm and would be devastated if this was the case. Thi...
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Re: 2L SA wanting to clerk question  
  by: LikelyThrowaway   on: July 16, at 3:54:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
Talk to the recruiting coordinator or someone in that department. If it's a decent firm they should be pretty transparent about how this process works.
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Re: Harvard Law Review and BSA  
  by:   on: July 16, at 3:52:59 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
I got a call around 2:30 EST today.
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 3:51:39 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:For people who've heard back from both CJIL and LF, what's the more well known/prestigious of the two?

They're equivalent, pick based on which one sounds more interesting and/or which one has people you'd rather work with.
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Re: NYU Law Transfer Thread 2019  
  by: johndiam   on: July 16, at 3:45:36 pm   in: Transfers
Also, worth mentioning that the guy at admissions said they still have open spots and have already sent out dings. So if you are still under review you're in the game, but they are holding to see the "entire applicant pool". I figure that after tomorrow (deadline for those accepted during the week of the 4th) and the last deadline (somewhere in the last week of July) are gonna be heavy ...
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Re: NYU Law Transfer Thread 2019  
  by: DC2NY2x   on: July 16, at 3:45:20 pm   in: Transfers
Also, worth mentioning that the guy at admissions said they still have open spots and have already sent out dings. So if you are still under review you're in the game, but they are holding to see the "entire applicant pool". I figure that after tomorrow (deadline for those accepted during the week of the 4th) and the last deadline (somewhere in the last week of July) are gonna be heavy ...
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: Npret   on: July 16, at 3:43:53 pm   in: Legal Employment
Do the campaign. If you dont take the opportunity you will regret it. Even if your firm won’t give you a delayed start, you will find another big law job. It’s not all or nothing.
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Re: Aiming for Texas biglaw  
  by: HenryHankPalmer   on: July 16, at 3:39:45 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
Current UT student. I love Texas Law, and the 33% for Biglaw number that gets thrown around is dated, people up to and at median are having no trouble finding Biglaw jobs, but OP should only go to Texas if it's free. While you would have a convincing case from the entire T14, I work at a Dallas BL firm and see more Stanford, UChi, Duke, and UVA grads than the other T14s. The same is more or less t...
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: boredtodeath   on: July 16, at 3:39:16 pm   in: Legal Employment
Work on the campaign and ask your firm for a deferral. Someone at my firm did this in 2016 and it was not an issue.
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: QContinuum   on: July 16, at 3:30:32 pm   in: Legal Employment
Let's please try to keep this on-topic and refrain from any 2020 "X vs. Trump" speculation. Legal Employment's not the place for that kind of chatting. The use of anon is especially inappropriate in that context. Any future posters who post political content under cover of anon ITT will be issued official warnings and their de-anonymized posts will be banished to the Lounge. I voted in t...
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Re: Anyone else notice this about big firm real estate finance groups?  
  by: misterjames   on: July 16, at 3:30:20 pm   in: Legal Employment

s1m4 wrote:How do you know what their grades were

I mean I'm speaking anecdotally but one of them had to take a required 3L bar class reserved for people with sub 3.0 GPAs, the rest (and my sample pool is 5 people from my class), none of them have latin honors on their profiles where others at the firm do. Just thought it was an odd coincidence.
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Re: Chicago Law Transfer Thread 2019  
  by: t2021   on: July 16, at 3:26:44 pm   in: Transfers
Hii, has anyone received their CNetID and UChicago email address yet?! If so, how long did it take to get it? Getting a bit anxious about getting my resume reviewed in time/prepping for OCI. Thanks ya'll! I got my CNetID around 4pm on Friday. Also you can submit your Resume for review before getting your CNetID. Awesome, thank you! How long did it take for you to get your resume back? I submitted...
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: anon3458   on: July 16, at 3:26:24 pm   in: Legal Employment
Does the candidate actually have a chance? Or does she let trump define her with racist slurs and not fight back?
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Re: Anyone else notice this about big firm real estate finance groups?  
  by: s1m4   on: July 16, at 3:15:01 pm   in: Legal Employment
How do you know what their grades were
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 3:00:51 pm   in: Legal Employment
For people who've heard back from both CJIL and LF, what's the more well known/prestigious of the two?
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: Carl Carlson   on: July 16, at 2:59:01 pm   in: Legal Employment
Definitely ask for a delay. Anecdotally, I've known people to take leaves of absence while working big law to do the same thing. Also anecdotally, I've known people in various research roles to not go as far career-wise as they imagined, despite that campaign going on to the WH. Presidential campaigns are pretty big so I'd try to confirm with as many knowledgeable people about it as possible befor...
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: CR2019   on: July 16, at 2:58:02 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Anyone else get killed by that secured transactions essay with the clocks/vacuums? [+] SpoilerThe rules about priorities for PMSIs in inventory vs. previously perfected security interest are so hyper-specific. I completely whiffed on them.
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Re: NYU Latin Honors  
  by: Dante181   on: July 16, at 2:57:32 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
Magna cum laude is out.
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Re: NYU Law Transfer Thread 2019  
  by: Jhyland10   on: July 16, at 2:51:18 pm   in: Transfers
Also, worth mentioning that the guy at admissions said they still have open spots and have already sent out dings. So if you are still under review you're in the game, but they are holding to see the "entire applicant pool". I figure that after tomorrow (deadline for those accepted during the week of the 4th) and the last deadline (somewhere in the last week of July) are gonna be heavy ...
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: Elston Gunn   on: July 16, at 2:50:45 pm   in: Legal Employment
Honestly if your firm is big enough they are very likely to just let you delay. I wouldn’t hide the reason (though maybe don’t volunteer the candidate unless you have to). It’s really not *that* uncommon for people to even take leaves of absence to work on campaigns after starting. If it is Warren or Sanders there is some chance people will think less of you for that—big firm lawyers are often Dem...
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Re: NYU Law Transfer Thread 2019  
  by: DC2NY2x   on: July 16, at 2:48:20 pm   in: Transfers
Also, worth mentioning that the guy at admissions said they still have open spots and have already sent out dings. So if you are still under review you're in the game, but they are holding to see the "entire applicant pool". I figure that after tomorrow (deadline for those accepted during the week of the 4th) and the last deadline (somewhere in the last week of July) are gonna be heavy m...
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by:   on: July 16, at 2:46:14 pm   in: Legal Employment
I voted for the political route, since as others have said, it seems like you're dedicated and desiring to go into the field. The two things I would ask though, is whether this is actually the "position of a lifetime," since there are plenty of people on a campaign who do research. Furthermore, I would get as much information about what it takes to make a "good impression." Wha...
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Re: Chicago Law Transfer Thread 2019  
  by:   on: July 16, at 2:42:43 pm   in: Transfers

ChiaOut wrote:
aleksandra wrote:Hii, has anyone received their CNetID and UChicago email address yet?!

If so, how long did it take to get it? Getting a bit anxious about getting my resume reviewed in time/prepping for OCI.

Thanks ya'll!

I got my CNetID around 4pm on Friday.

Also you can submit your Resume for review before getting your CNetID.


Awesome, thank you! How long did it take for you to get your resume back?
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: mickey_mouse   on: July 16, at 2:42:43 pm   in: Legal Employment
screw it, do the campaign. Ask for a deferral from your firm, and if you don't get it, whatever. When you ask, perhaps be a little descriptive or not, depending on if the firm has strong political connections and might be more understanding (this really only applies to a few firms). Honestly if you're only going to be in big law for a few years and then want to move to the public sector/ politics,...
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: AussieAustin   on: July 16, at 2:41:13 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I've plowed through tons and tons of MBE questions, and now i'm doubting whether that was a smart use of my time/energy. My Themis person sent a message to people in my state that "you should not feel compelled to complete every set of PQs assigned at the expense of foregoing substantive learning. If you have completed more than 1000 MBE PQs plus the 300 questions from the Milestone Exams, y...
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Second B.A.  
  by: Tower5   on: July 16, at 2:38:55 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hi guys, I went to high school in the U.S. and moved to non-English speaking country to earn my first B.A. I moved back to the U.S. and went to a non-ABA law school. I was there for two years as a part time las student. I did not complete my degree nor the 1L requirement (since the school is a non-ABA, I believe that the requirement is different from other ABA schools). I withdrew from the program...
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: Wild Card   on: July 16, at 2:38:22 pm   in: Legal Employment
Your candidate may win the Democratic nomination but will lose against the President. And then what?
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Re: NYU Law Transfer Thread 2019  
  by: Transferee?   on: July 16, at 2:36:11 pm   in: Transfers

DC2NY2x wrote:Update:

So I called NYU admissions and they said that a group has been approved for this week, and they may or may not approve a second group for this week should people withdraw tomorrow. Otherwise I would need to wait until next week. Fuck.

So does this mean that if people don't commit by today they have a list of people getting acceptances tomorrow?
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: clarion   on: July 16, at 2:34:57 pm   in: Legal Employment
I agree with jhett, fully. The safest route is obviously to go biglaw. That's (part of) why people preach it so hard. And if you were itching to work in biglaw long term, I would have a different opinion. But honestly, if you're passionate about politics and this candidate as well, I think you should just skip over biglaw for now. As mentioned, you can keep the job search alive while you're workin...
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Conflict Check as recent grad  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 2:33:59 pm   in: Legal Employment
So I thankfully was extended an offer at a firm (T50-40ish) as a recent grad, "contingent" on passing a conflict check. First, any thoughts on how often entry-level associates are denied based on this? Second, how do I go about this? I did a bunch of tiny, short term projects my first summer and then worked at a small firm. I worked on a bunch of projects at the firm, but they haven't be...
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2L SA wanting to clerk question  
  by: Texas2017   on: July 16, at 2:29:58 pm   in: Legal Employment
The question is based on the assumption I get a permanent offer to join the firm where I am an SA this summer. I’m doing litigation and I keep feeling the urge to do a clerkship—preferably a federal one—after graduating. I posed this question to an associate who told me that they may not have a spot for me when I want to come back. I love the firm and would be devastated if this was the case. This...
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: jhett   on: July 16, at 2:29:19 pm   in: Legal Employment
I think it's worth it to ask your firm to defer your start date. You don't have to be specific as to why. The worst they can do is say no - I doubt they'd pull your offer just because you asked. Remember you are dealing with firm HR, not the partners. Aside from that, I'd lean toward the campaign since you are deeply into politics. If the campaign goes all the way, you could skyrocket into a great...
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Anyone else notice this about big firm real estate finance groups?  
  by: misterjames   on: July 16, at 2:26:05 pm   in: Legal Employment
I graduated from a TT in 2015, and I was nowhere near top 10% or whatever. No OCI interviews, passed over by every big firm in NYC. My point is, I was not the top shelf academic achiever in law school so I don't mean to be snooty with this observation. That being said, it seems like a lot of NYC big firm real estate finance groups are filled with... well I'll call them people like me. It seems a s...
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Letters of Rec 4 Years Out of School  
  by: FutureLawyer92   on: July 16, at 2:25:19 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hi all, I'm currently applying for Fall 2020 entry and would love to get some insight on LORs. I graduated from a top public university in 2015, and have spent the past 4 years working full-time. Regrettably, I have not much kept in touch with many of my professors and worry that, even if I reached out to them now, the letters of rec I'd be able to get would be impersonal at best. My employers fro...
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Re: Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by:   on: July 16, at 2:12:45 pm   in: Legal Employment
go work for warren and crush it.
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Re: Aiming for Texas biglaw  
  by: seabisque   on: July 16, at 2:08:24 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
Go to Texas Law with a full ride, then Texas big law, simple as that. Otherwise you’re just hella deep in debt to go HYS, and come out with an identical job. Only potential downside might be that a Texas degree doesn’t travel as far in Canada if you ever want / need to move back? It's true you might get an identical job cheaply at Texas, but you greatly increase the risk of coming home empty hand...
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Re: Would I save money paying off interest before it capitalizes?  
  by: cavalier1138   on: July 16, at 1:57:10 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
I think it likely makes more sense to apply the money to the higher-interest PLUS loans if you're taking any of those out. Your goal should be to minimize your total debt on graduation, so you should always put priority on reducing the amount of money taken out under the loans with the highest interest rate. Just to make sure I'm understanding, your recommendation is to just pay off the loans? An...
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Re: Roast my PS please  
  by: cavalier1138   on: July 16, at 1:54:55 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
I usually try to find something to work with in these drafts, but all of this is just bad. It's a horrible topic that makes you sound like the world's worst tenant.

I assume English isn't your first language, so I won't go into detail on the grammar/vocabulary. But you need to be much more vigilant about editing and/or work on your English writing between now and your next draft.
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Re: Roast my PS please  
  by: acr   on: July 16, at 1:52:47 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
A thorough roasting is in order, so be prepared. Your biggest problem is that you've completely missed the entire point of what a personal statement should accomplish. A PS should first and foremost clearly and convincingly demonstrate to the reader why you want to pursue a legal education, while simultaneously providing an insight into unique characteristics about yourself and displaying your wri...
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Help Me Choose Between a Campaign Job and a Firm Offer  
  by: legalz22222   on: July 16, at 1:51:48 pm   in: Legal Employment
I have talked to family, friends, and career counselors about this, but I am still stuck and hoping for some advice. I recently graduated law school last May. I accepted a biglaw offer from the same firm at which I spent my summer last year. The firm pays market and is in a major east coast city. I like the firm and my colleagues, however the original plan was to spend a few years there and then m...
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Re: Top law schools for foreign student  
  by: xuug   on: July 16, at 1:47:09 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Would you also recommend me to write a diversity statement? I read something about these and maybe would be a good idea to talk about how I could bring some civil law and common law experience based on my education. I'd go with a very brief addendum to explain your grade. A diversity statement is fine, clearly you're a diverse candidate, but be careful about how much "law" you put in th...
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by: Wild Card   on: July 16, at 1:46:09 pm   in: Legal Employment

LaLiLuLeLo wrote:
Wild Card wrote:
ghostoftraynor wrote:Anecdotally, NY offices seem to be much bigger sticklers about facetime. See, e.g., DPW associate tracking system.

Guys, pls STFU: I want to learn more about why DPW sucks.

DPW becomes the only NY to 210, but you have to wear an ankle monitor. Accept?

Only if I can just sleep in the office to avoid paying ~$30,000 in Manhattan rent.
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Re: Northwestern 2019 OCI  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 1:44:10 pm   in: Legal Employment
Looking for some last minute advice on my bid list. 3.72, Moot Court, Secondary Journal. Looking for litigation, all NYC below. Deliberately left off S&C, STB, Weil, Skadden, and K&E because of pre-oci interviews (results pending). 1 WHITE & CASE LLP 2 PROSKAUER 3 CAHILL GORDON & REINDEL 4 GOODWIN PROCTER LLP 5 WILMERHALE 6 CADWALADER WICKERSHAM & TAFT LLP 7 PAUL HASTINGS 8 PAU...
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Re: NYU Law Transfer Thread 2019  
  by: bbaa57311   on: July 16, at 1:43:35 pm   in: Transfers

DC2NY2x wrote:Update:

So I called NYU admissions and they said that a group has been approved for this week, and they may or may not approve a second group for this week should people withdraw tomorrow. Otherwise I would need to wait until next week. Fuck.

Doing the lord’s work. Thanks for the update. Back to waiting in agony at work...
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Re: Top law schools for foreign student  
  by: albanach   on: July 16, at 1:40:01 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Would you also recommend me to write a diversity statement? I read something about these and maybe would be a good idea to talk about how I could bring some civil law and common law experience based on my education. I'd go with a very brief addendum to explain your grade. A diversity statement is fine, clearly you're a diverse candidate, but be careful about how much "law" you put in th...
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Re: 2019 July Pennsylvania (PA) Bar Exam  
  by: kms181   on: July 16, at 1:39:09 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Passed PA July 2018 Personally, I didn't do a whole ton of practice essays, but I did read the prompts and model answers for many. Sometimes I would read the essay and just outline my answer (each issue, rule, application and analysis in bullet points) and compare that to the model. Highlight what you missed and what you got correct. TBH, studying the MBE questions really helped with the essays be...
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Re: NYU Law Transfer Thread 2019  
  by: DC2NY2x   on: July 16, at 1:26:12 pm   in: Transfers
For those of you not attending: pleeeeeeeaaaaseee withdraw as soon as you're sure you're not going, cause people (me) are hurting out here
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: strawberrieee   on: July 16, at 1:15:09 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I've plowed through tons and tons of MBE questions, and now i'm doubting whether that was a smart use of my time/energy. My Themis person sent a message to people in my state that "you should not feel compelled to complete every set of PQs assigned at the expense of foregoing substantive learning. If you have completed more than 1000 MBE PQs plus the 300 questions from the Milestone Exams, y...
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Re: What do Law School Interns do?  
  by: Jordan77   on: July 16, at 1:14:33 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
We hire summer clerks. Vast majority of time is spent doing legal research and writing memos. You typically work with multiple partners on a variety of different projects in different areas of the law. We try to take summer clerks to a variety of different functions, including hearings, mediations, depositions, etc. so you can see the practical side of the practice. I had a clerk draft a quick and...
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Re: Would I save money paying off interest before it capitalizes?  
  by: AlbertParsons   on: July 16, at 1:13:09 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
I think it likely makes more sense to apply the money to the higher-interest PLUS loans if you're taking any of those out. Your goal should be to minimize your total debt on graduation, so you should always put priority on reducing the amount of money taken out under the loans with the highest interest rate. Just to make sure I'm understanding, your recommendation is to just pay off the loans? An...
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Re: Magistrate clerkships cd ca  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 1:06:24 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Thanks. I have an interview and am trying to decide whether to go forward. I clerked at the district level and am doing a magistrate clerkship in another district now.

I don’t really have a desire to practice in LA, but I do have a lot of friends and family the area and wouldn’t mind living there a bit. Just don’t know if the clerkship really does much for me at this point.
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Re: Should I be concerned about a company's performance when going in house?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 12:59:15 pm   in: Legal Employment
I think it’s hugely important. I turned down an offer that hit a lot of my checkboxes because they didn’t pay bonuses at the half year mark and laid off people while I was interviewing. Their stock price had taken a beating over the last year as well. I was fairly confident they would recover and it was just a cyclical downturn, but I wasn’t willing to enter a company at its nadir. I suppose the e...
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Re: NYU Law Transfer Thread 2019  
  by: DC2NY2x   on: July 16, at 12:58:35 pm   in: Transfers
Update:

So I called NYU admissions and they said that a group has been approved for this week, and they may or may not approve a second group for this week should people withdraw tomorrow. Otherwise I would need to wait until next week. Fuck.
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Re: Top law schools for foreign student  
  by: xuug   on: July 16, at 12:58:27 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Would you also recommend me to write a diversity statement? I read something about these and maybe would be a good idea to talk about how I could bring some civil law and common law experience based on my education.
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Re: Georgetown OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 12:49:24 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anybody have any info on Hollingsworth? Threw them on my bid list because GPA made sense and got an invite to their post-OCI reception. I know they're a litigation shop with a lot of pharmaceutical cases and they pay $165, but that's about all I know. Can't seem to find anything useful on Vault, and nothing on Chambers. Anybody know anything about hours, culture, etc.? Big paycut from the top firm...
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Re: NYU Law Transfer Thread 2019  
  by: DC2NY2x   on: July 16, at 12:46:56 pm   in: Transfers
No movement today? Probably nothing today. From what I'm reading the acceptance deadline for people recently accepted is tomorrow. It's likely that after the deadline they will start sending out decisions. I heard one of the deadlines was 7/12 for those accepted in June and 7/17 for those accepted 7/1-3, so it is a bit worrying that i haven't seen any movement the past two days. Anyone else seein...
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Re: I can't stop screwing up  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 12:45:44 pm   in: Legal Employment
4th year who has been concerned about getting fired whole career (and almost has), just laterelled to new firm and have similar worries that im messing up too much. I told myself YOLO, I made it 4 years I'm gonna stop worrying. I'll try hard but if I get fired I get fired, I cant spend my whole life worrying and feeling like shit.
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Re: Columbia Transfer 2019  
  by: DC2NY2x   on: July 16, at 12:45:42 pm   in: Transfers

OPJack wrote:
DC2NY2x wrote:Dinged via snail mail. Check your mailboxes, my status checker still just says "Application Complete" even though the letter was dated 7/12.

What were your stats?

T25 Top 15%
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Roast my PS please  
  by: zybhlyz   on: July 16, at 12:43:18 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
Here is my PS about dealing with property management company. Anything would be appreciated. It was a late night after a 4-hour drive. We finally arrived home and everyone was exhausted. There was a car parked in front of the garage blocking the driveway. I was displeased with the person to whom the car belongs. I suggested to have the car towed since a person without others in mind deserves such ...
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: nthp   on: July 16, at 12:41:02 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I'm a retaker. In all honesty, your last point is exactly what caused me to underperform in February's bar. I put so much emphasis on minor exceptions that I missed the bigger picture. The small exceptions is what had me feeling unprepared. I recall during the exam, every time I was unsure about an answer choice, I would see Themis wrong answer message in my mind (traumatized?)... I think this wa...
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: Anon2468   on: July 16, at 12:39:41 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I'm a retaker. In all honesty, your last point is exactly what caused me to underperform in February's bar. I put so much emphasis on minor exceptions that I missed the bigger picture. The small exceptions is what had me feeling unprepared. I recall during the exam, every time I was unsure about an answer choice, I would see Themis wrong answer message in my mind (traumatized?)... I think this wa...
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Re: Best time to Apply to law school(s)  
  by: Jordan77   on: July 16, at 12:39:32 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Early enough I think!
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Re: GULC EA/RD Transfer 2019  
  by: aaaa2222   on: July 16, at 12:39:09 pm   in: Transfers
I haven't yet.
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Re: Top law schools for foreign student  
  by: nealric   on: July 16, at 12:35:34 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I agree with you! That's what I'm most worried about. I was thinking about writing an Amendum on my application. Do you think it would be helpful? Or should I just try to mention a reason in my personal statement in order to explain the qualification? An addendum can only help if there's a good reason for your undergraduate grade or a convincing reason that the CAS analysis was inaccurate (and it...
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Re: Best time to Apply to law school(s)  
  by: QContinuum   on: July 16, at 12:34:33 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Applying by Thanksgiving is generally considered "early." Applying in December generally won't hurt you. Applying past Jan. 1 is considered "late" and may have an adverse impact on your acceptances/schollies.
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Re: Should I be concerned about a company's performance when going in house?  
  by: nealric   on: July 16, at 12:32:25 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'd be wary. Company performance is very important to your prospects in house. Even if the company stays stable, if it isn't in growth mode, it will limit your upward mobility and experiential opportunities. Most companies provide a relatively substantial portion of total comp in equity. If the company is doing poorly, your pay will suffer. Another issue is that lawyers (other than the GC) are rel...
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Best time to Apply to law school(s)  
  by: pinnylaw9   on: July 16, at 12:26:11 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Some say the earlier the better, but how about if you must rely on your October/November 2019 LSAT score to apply? Would applying in December be considered "early"?
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by: texas1100   on: July 16, at 12:25:58 pm   in: Legal Employment
Do not be the first year at my prior firm who bought a house on Cape Cod and left every Thursday at 4pm "to beat traffic" and then "worked remote" on Friday with a response time of 2-3 hours. Do not. It will not end well, even if you have a house on Cape Cod. As a counterpoint, this is not atypical at my current firm (to dip out slightly early Thursday and work remote Friday)....
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Re: Should I be concerned about a company's performance when going in house?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 12:20:56 pm   in: Legal Employment
Yes, you should be concerned. That's essentially a penny stock that will likely be bought (and maybe making you redundant) or go into BK with worthless equity. I wouldn't go there and if you do, your equity could end up being worthless, so negotiate as high of a base as possible. Have had friends recently experience this in O&G industry: they pay a lot and a big portion of equity, which amount...
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Re: Should I be concerned about a company's performance when going in house?  
  by: shock259   on: July 16, at 12:10:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
That's a pretty big drop in the stock price. Not familiar with that industry, but that would definitely be raising flags for me. Where are you in the interview process? I think you can ask casual, sort of generic questions during the interview process about the nature of the business ("what's the biggest challenge the company is facing right now", etc.). But if/when you receive an offer,...
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Re: Harvard Law Review and BSA  
  by: Qed1234   on: July 16, at 12:01:18 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
Any news for calls going out today?
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Re: District Attorney's Office 2019  
  by: goji11   on: July 16, at 11:56:13 am   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone heard from Brooklyn yet? I know we were supposed to get our start date in July, but I haven't heard anything. Good luck to everyone taking the bar! Still haven't received communication on my end. Would be interested if anyone's heard back since I believe we're supposed to fill out paperwork for HR sometime in mid-late August? I emailed them recently to check, and they said they anticip...
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: kenken637   on: July 16, at 11:48:11 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
They are. Apparently they focus on your weaknesses. I know they're different for sure because I talked to some of my friends also doing themis Ah. I was about to bitch that Mixed PQ set 13 was by far the hardest set of PQ's I've done, but I guess it doesn't matter if people can't compare. Every god damn question was a weird exception to the rule. There's just no way that on the day of the actual ...
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Should I be concerned about a company's performance when going in house?  
  by:   on: July 16, at 11:33:56 am   in: Legal Employment
Hey everyone. This forum has been hugely helpful to my career. I'm finally looking at making the move in house from working as a Corp/M&A associate (3rd year) at biglaw in a secondary market. The company I'm interviewing at has about 550 million in revenue and 70 million EBITDA. The share price has been really hurting lately. Was at a high of $1.30 in 2018 and is now at around 25 cents. Is thi...
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Re: Would I save money paying off interest before it capitalizes?  
  by: cavalier1138   on: July 16, at 11:33:09 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
I think it likely makes more sense to apply the money to the higher-interest PLUS loans if you're taking any of those out. Your goal should be to minimize your total debt on graduation, so you should always put priority on reducing the amount of money taken out under the loans with the highest interest rate.
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by: LaLiLuLeLo   on: July 16, at 11:25:04 am   in: Legal Employment

Wild Card wrote:
ghostoftraynor wrote:Anecdotally, NY offices seem to be much bigger sticklers about facetime. See, e.g., DPW associate tracking system.

Guys, pls STFU: I want to learn more about why DPW sucks.

DPW becomes the only NY to 210, but you have to wear an ankle monitor. Accept?
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Would I save money paying off interest before it capitalizes?  
  by: AlbertParsons   on: July 16, at 11:17:30 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
Currently I'm slated to have a loan balance of $201.5k leaving law school. Of that, $27,997 will be from interest that has been accruing in law school. I have been fortunate to land a 1L SA and will be returning for 2L and am wondering if it is worthwhile to pay off the interest as it accrues. This number already reflects me taking out less loans because I'm covering cost of living with summer ear...
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by: Wild Card   on: July 16, at 11:11:51 am   in: Legal Employment

ghostoftraynor wrote:Anecdotally, NY offices seem to be much bigger sticklers about facetime. See, e.g., DPW associate tracking system.

Guys, pls STFU: I want to learn more about why DPW sucks.
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: kasap   on: July 16, at 11:11:24 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I just did Mixed PQ-9 and it was terrible. There is only two weeks left and I feel terrible...
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Re: Columbia Transfer 2019  
  by: OPJack   on: July 16, at 11:05:57 am   in: Transfers

DC2NY2x wrote:Dinged via snail mail. Check your mailboxes, my status checker still just says "Application Complete" even though the letter was dated 7/12.

What were your stats?
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by: inter-associate   on: July 16, at 11:03:28 am   in: Legal Employment
I have two comments: 2) To the senior associate above who thinks remote work should only be used to "manage life," those types of viewpoints on culture are exactly why remote work hasn't progressed enough. If someone is in the office regularly enough to have the connections needed and can also balance that with working at home occasionally, why does working at home need to be reserved f...
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: barryzee   on: July 16, at 11:01:56 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
So does that leave the subject PQs and primers/exams as the only real "fixed" material?

If so, I'm assuming those are a best gauge of how you're doing on the material. Or they are if can estimate how you'd do on them if you did them today.
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Re: Mass SJC 2020-2021  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 11:01:45 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
For what it's worth, I didn't get an interview request until early-August last year.
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Re: I can't stop screwing up  
  by: AVBucks4239   on: July 16, at 10:57:17 am   in: Legal Employment
OP, I think a good book for you might be the Checklist Manifesto. You'd be very enlightened by how even the smartest people in the world still rely on lists. You should be curating processes and procedures for each type of document in an Evernote app or something similar. I use them for my solo practice for even minor matters. But even for depo prep, I have a big, long checklist, and I probably wo...
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Re: New York July 2019  
  by: ddoomm   on: July 16, at 10:50:29 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I got my letter to Hogwarts!

Jk, just the ticket to take the bar...
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Re: Practice areas that will be growing/dying in the next decade  
  by: Elston Gunn   on: July 16, at 10:39:44 am   in: Discussion of Practice Areas
That’s true, though the tech-utopian trendiness of it is a big part of why there’s so much work (ie you’ve got a lot of people raising money for their silly blockchain/cryptocurrency project etc who need to hire a lawyer). But yes, certainly true that OP shouldn’t set out to become an “blockchain attorney.” A financial services attorney that focuses on tech issues though? Possibly a different story.
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Re: Pre-OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 10:32:23 am   in: Legal Employment
Have a callback at one of O'Melveny/Latham and was told that this assessment was voluntary. Should I complete it? Seems like it might hurt my application more than help. If it’s a part of your assessment and a firm makes it explicit you should complete it... then yeah, complete it. I did a Koru7 assessment and I think it actually helped my application. From what I understand, each firm works with...
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by: Halp   on: July 16, at 10:28:33 am   in: Legal Employment
I have two comments: 1) Shearman's remote work policy is no where near as used as they advertise. I was in the lit group and we could use it occasionally, but not often, and in corporate it's almost a joke. 2) To the senior associate above who thinks remote work should only be used to "manage life," those types of viewpoints on culture are exactly why remote work hasn't progressed enoug...
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Re: Top law schools for foreign student  
  by: xuug   on: July 16, at 10:24:11 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I agree with you! That's what I'm most worried about. I was thinking about writing an Amendum on my application. Do you think it would be helpful? Or should I just try to mention a reason in my personal statement in order to explain the qualification? An addendum can only help if there's a good reason for your undergraduate grade or a convincing reason that the CAS analysis was inaccurate (and it...
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Re: Practice areas that will be growing/dying in the next decade  
  by: totesTheGoat   on: July 16, at 10:17:07 am   in: Discussion of Practice Areas
I agree that blockchain implicates various areas of the law, but that's no different than any other widely adopted technology. You could replace the word "blockchain" with one of a number of other techy buzzwords and they'd implicate a similar set of practice areas. To address OP's premise, it's not worth becoming a blockchain expert in the hopes that one day you'll become the pre-eminen...
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Re: Top law schools for foreign student  
  by: albanach   on: July 16, at 10:09:23 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I agree with you! That's what I'm most worried about. I was thinking about writing an Amendum on my application. Do you think it would be helpful? Or should I just try to mention a reason in my personal statement in order to explain the qualification? An addendum can only help if there's a good reason for your undergraduate grade or a convincing reason that the CAS analysis was inaccurate (and it...
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Re: Movement Today  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 10:08:36 am   in: Judicial Clerkships

Anonymous User wrote:Any word on other sdny (Carter, Swain)?
Carter was interviewing yesterday.
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Re: Barbri Final Prep Exam  
  by: 265489164158   on: July 16, at 9:58:51 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I thought I saw it in one of the books?
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Re: Practice areas that will be growing/dying in the next decade  
  by: Elston Gunn   on: July 16, at 9:56:20 am   in: Discussion of Practice Areas
Blockchain is a buzzword, not a practice area. It’s not a practice area, but I think people in this thread are giving slightly short shrift to the amount of legal work it’s generating at least at the moment. A lot of companies are doing blockchain related stuff and need advice, whether from a commercial, SEC, CFTC, AML or prudential regulation perspective. Whether you think this will continue to ...
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Re: UVA OGI 2019  
  by: VirginiaFan   on: July 16, at 9:52:57 am   in: Legal Employment
Another alum of OGI here, happy to answer questions.
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Re: Pre-OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 9:50:20 am   in: Legal Employment
Dinged at STB NY, callback was last week.
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Re: Bad Grades Interview Questions  
  by: mjb447   on: July 16, at 9:42:34 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
There's no good reason not to tell the truth if asked, and it sounds like you're pivoting from it about as well as you can ("I tried like hell to offset the stigma...," and with demonstrable success). Whether to bring it up yourself if the judge doesn't ask about your grades is a separate question; I still probably would if I could work it in somewhat naturally - it provides a more compl...
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Re: Top law schools for foreign student  
  by: xuug   on: July 16, at 9:37:47 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I have no idea what your Spanish undergraduate degree will translate to for LSAC purposes GPA-wise, but your LSAT should make you a strong contender. You are nearly guaranteed to get into at least one T14, and have a reasonable shot at HYSCCN. I wouldn't be so sure. Average is the second bottom of four designations for an overseas degree. I think schools would read it as being equivalent to a 3.0...
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Re: How Was Your July LSAT?  
  by: Moose29   on: July 16, at 9:33:20 am   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Things were pretty straightforward but RC killed me. After the tough comparative passage my timing was all off and I had to rush the last two passages
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Re: Pre-OCI 2019  
  by:   on: July 16, at 9:30:29 am   in: Legal Employment
Have a callback at one of O'Melveny/Latham and was told that this assessment was voluntary. Should I complete it? Seems like it might hurt my application more than help. If it’s a part of your assessment and a firm makes it explicit you should complete it... then yeah, complete it. I did a Koru7 assessment and I think it actually helped my application. From what I understand, each firm works with...
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Re: Law firm culture? SF vs DC vs Chicago  
  by: Elston Gunn   on: July 16, at 9:24:59 am   in: Legal Employment
I would really encourage you to ask yourself some more questions, rather than pose such a general question to the board. First, you haven’t said anything about your credentials, unless I missed it. Are they strong enough to make you feel confident about targeting these markets? Are you going to target NYC too? All three of these markets can be tough if you don’t have top credentials, especially DC...
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Re: Question about admission to practice for a new job  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 9:19:31 am   in: Legal Employment
Thanks! I figured this was a stupid question, but I appreciate the answer.
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Re: Pre-OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 9:06:35 am   in: Legal Employment

Gobbluth5000 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:STB Houston offer same day as callback
When did they tell you you’d hear back during the interview?

They said it would be a couple of weeks because it was so early in the process
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Re: Pre-OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 9:01:53 am   in: Legal Employment
Crazy amount of movement right now (at least in Texas). Has there always been this much pre-OCI movement and I just didn't realize it, or is this a reaction to not having NALP rules?
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 8:58:25 am   in: Legal Employment
I have two comments: 1) Shearman's remote work policy is no where near as used as they advertise. I was in the lit group and we could use it occasionally, but not often, and in corporate it's almost a joke. 2) To the senior associate above who thinks remote work should only be used to "manage life," those types of viewpoints on culture are exactly why remote work hasn't progressed enough...
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 8:53:34 am   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone heard from other non-LR journals? Were calls made last night? Estimate of when they’ll be done, based on last year?
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Re: Law firm culture? SF vs DC vs Chicago  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 8:51:57 am   in: Legal Employment
Hi all! I'm sure my question will be way too general, but I'm struggling to narrow down which cities to apply to for OCI. Right now I'm thinking San Francisco, DC, or Chicago. I like all three and don't have major geographical ties anywhere, so at this point I'm mostly thinking about quality of life and not working too crazy of hours. I know quality of life / firm culture vary a lot by firm and p...
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Re: UVA OGI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 8:43:11 am   in: Legal Employment

Cogburn1984 wrote:Should I shave my beard completely or can I roll with some neatly trimmed facial hair (beard and mustache)?

I think everyone I knew shaved their beards for OGI even if they had rocked a beard all 1L. But I don't see why neatly trimmed facial hair would be a problem
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Re: Bad Grades Interview Questions  
  by: HillandHollow   on: July 16, at 8:32:40 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I mean, tbh, "my dad died suddenly right before exams" is about as good an explanation as there might be.

Your friend is correct. If you are in the room for an interview, you are presumed to be competent, at the very least. We wouldn't waste our time on someone we didn't fully believe was capable. The interview is mostly for fit, and to confirm what kind of personality you are.
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Re: Bomb the Simulated Written Essay; Literally Convulsing in a Panic Attack  
  by: kmanskey   on: July 16, at 8:31:11 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Don't drop, you are so close. Start doing CLOSED BOOK practice essays under timed conditions. Do the best you can within the time limit. After, review the sample answer. For each issue/concept you did not catch or state correctly, write it on a sticky note and place it on a wall. At some point during the day, go through those sticky notes and look them up in your outline book. Write it out a coupl...
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Re: Law firm culture? SF vs DC vs Chicago  
  by: Necho2   on: July 16, at 8:31:09 am   in: Legal Employment
This is likely school dependent, but I found that DC did not care at all about ties. I think SF and Chicago both care, although my experience with Chicago is anecdotal. I think SF firms care more than SV firms, and SF-based firms care more than non-SF based firms. It's definitely not to the same level as places like Seattle, San Diego, Boston, etc, but it's more tie-conscious than DC, and more th...
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Re: Law firm culture? SF vs DC vs Chicago  
  by: HillandHollow   on: July 16, at 8:28:39 am   in: Legal Employment
wrt to Chicago: If you don't have ANY ties, it will be a little tough. Also, you will need to be able to say you have experienced a midwest winter. Not joking. A friend of mine is involved in hiring at a Chicago firm. She told me that one small (but real) concern is that someone from, say, California might think they want to move to Chicago, but then once they get there and experience their first ...
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Re: Bad Grades Interview Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 8:19:47 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Seems like the true story is the best answer: "A week before exams, my father died very unexpectedly. It was/is still very difficult for me, and my grades suffered. I have tried to offset those 1L grades by publishing, etc etc etc" Not sure why anyone would "not buy" this. Only a true sociopath would lie about something like this. I would bet that this particular thing is not ...
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Re: Anyone else hate 85% of law students  
  by: totesTheGoat   on: July 16, at 8:16:00 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
On the other hand, I've met plenty of genuine, nice, down-to-earth lawyers who would gladly go dove hunting with me and settle down afterward with a cigar to talk about the influence of Aquinas' writings on the structure of the US government. To be fair, some would find the idea of discussing Medieval philosophy over cigars to be rather pretentious and self-important. :P I for one would not be ab...
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Re: Practice areas that will be growing/dying in the next decade  
  by: totesTheGoat   on: July 16, at 8:14:47 am   in: Discussion of Practice Areas
Blockchain is a buzzword, not a practice area.
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Re: Bad Grades Interview Questions  
  by: HillandHollow   on: July 16, at 8:07:10 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Seems like the true story is the best answer: "A week before exams, my father died very unexpectedly. It was/is still very difficult for me, and my grades suffered. I have tried to offset those 1L grades by publishing, etc etc etc" Not sure why anyone would "not buy" this. Only a true sociopath would lie about something like this. I would bet that this particular thing is not t...
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Re: Practice areas that will be growing/dying in the next decade  
  by: nealric   on: July 16, at 7:52:37 am   in: Discussion of Practice Areas
Honestly, litigation is dying and has been for a while - unless you do some useful litigation (like patent), I would stay away from that. Agree with the above though that Blockchain probably won't be that big tbh. Even patent lit is not necessarily doing all that great as courts seem to be giving shorter shrift to patent trolls. That said, lit can still be very lucrative in the right niche - look...
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Re: Pre-OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 7:23:08 am   in: Legal Employment
Have a callback at one of O'Melveny/Latham and was told that this assessment was voluntary. Should I complete it? Seems like it might hurt my application more than help. If it’s a part of your assessment and a firm makes it explicit you should complete it... then yeah, complete it. I did a Koru7 assessment and I think it actually helped my application. From what I understand, each firm works with...
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Re: Pre-OCI 2019  
  by:   on: July 16, at 7:19:25 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:STB Houston offer same day as callback
When did they tell you you’d hear back during the interview?
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 2:28:48 am   in: Legal Employment
Background: Army JAG, commissioned within last 4yrs Other anon for Army medical questions: -Our pre commissioning physicals and DCC physicals were a joke. Not invasive at all. No duck walk. They'll figure out if your hiding something major though, so I do not recommend it. -Vaccines are administered at DCC. Additional ones given at your gaining unit's discretion per it's specific mission. Do you ...
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by:   on: July 16, at 2:14:51 am   in: Legal Employment
The answer to this question also depends much on what your goals are. If you’re just aiming to be a good document turner who leaves for an in house job after a resume-appropriate number of years, you probably can get away with lots more remote work - the vast majority of the actual work can be done anywhere. But - and this is a big but - lots of the stuff that eventually helps you become a success...
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Re: Practice areas that are the least “lifestyle” friendly?  
  by: RedGiant   on: July 16, at 2:01:10 am   in: Legal Employment
It's hard to make generalizations regarding hour expectations at different firms. It can vary significantly depending on the size of the group, partner demands, the market, the case load, etc. I can only speak to my experience. Former transactional paralegal and associate here. ^TICR IME, M&A is by far consistently the worst. Capital markets can be brutal if your practice area is hot and the ...
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by: RedGiant   on: July 16, at 1:50:31 am   in: Legal Employment
Cosign all of the advice that this is a privilege not to be abused, but you should take advantage if it's OK, and if colleagues at the same level do so. Do not be the first year at my prior firm who bought a house on Cape Cod and left every Thursday at 4pm "to beat traffic" and then "worked remote" on Friday with a response time of 2-3 hours. Do not. It will not end well, even ...
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Re: NY to 210k  
  by: eng2law   on: July 16, at 1:33:58 am   in: Legal Employment
Agreed. Seems like the Cravath model of paying head and shoulders above what you would otherwise make to make money a non-issue is failing, at least in the big cities. Comp at the top companies (esp tech, internet) has grown leaps and bounds -- at least doubled during the same time that 1 yr associate comp has gone from 160 to 190. I remember 160 being like director-level pay at the top companies ...
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Bomb the Simulated Written Essay; Literally Convulsing in a Panic Attack  
  by: placidstate   on: July 16, at 1:25:19 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi,

I did the Barbri simulated written essay today, a week late I know, but I literally bomb the essay whereas I've been doing pretty well on the Barbri's practice exams (open notes). Freaking out, thinking about dropping out. HELP...
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Re: NY to 210k  
  by:   on: July 16, at 12:58:56 am   in: Legal Employment
Agree with the above. Raises should be concentrated at the 3-7 year level. At that level you have enough experience to get a job outside biglaw that pays well. I would think law firms would want to encourage those people to stay and creating greater separation in compensation is one way to do that.

It doesn’t look like any bump is happening this year, but I could see it happening next year.
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 16, at 12:49:29 am   in: Legal Employment
Law Review calls went out Saturday. Anyone know if K&E has gone out?
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Re: Law firm culture? SF vs DC vs Chicago  
  by: PMan99   on: July 16, at 12:14:30 am   in: Legal Employment
The question is way too general for anyone to give useful advice. Hours will depend more on the firm and practice group than the city, particularly since you're not looking at NYC (where things tend to be crazier in general). DC can be very grade selective and Chicago firms can value ties a bit. SF was pretty grade/ties selective a few years ago, but I imagine the tech boom over the last half deca...
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Re: Law firm culture? SF vs DC vs Chicago  
  by: SamuelDanforth   on: July 16, at 12:06:30 am   in: Legal Employment
This is likely school dependent, but I found that DC did not care at all about ties. I think SF and Chicago both care, although my experience with Chicago is anecdotal. I think SF firms care more than SV firms, and SF-based firms care more than non-SF based firms. It's definitely not to the same level as places like Seattle, San Diego, Boston, etc, but it's more tie-conscious than DC, and more tha...
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Re: Pre-OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 15, at 11:46:12 pm   in: Legal Employment
STB Houston offer same day as callback
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Impact of Two Cancels  
  by:   on: July 15, at 11:35:01 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hello, I'm in a bit of a unique position and need some advice. Today I finished my third sitting for the LSAT. I cancelled in March, scored a 163 in June, and left this sitting feeling as though I potentially equalled that score or even got worse (had to guess on 5 for a tough LR section, which has never happened in probably 30-40 practice timed tests, and the RC was rather difficult). Problem is,...
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Re: I can't stop screwing up  
  by: hlsperson1111   on: July 15, at 11:26:44 pm   in: Legal Employment
The fact that you care about doing a good job (and not just getting work off your desk and saying "this is good enough") already puts you ahead of many of the young associates with whom I work. Your firm wants you to succeed, and you want to succeed. All you need to do is find a process that sets you up for the success everyone wants you to have.
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: dianetics08   on: July 15, at 11:05:06 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
They are. Apparently they focus on your weaknesses. I know they're different for sure because I talked to some of my friends also doing themis Ah. I was about to bitch that Mixed PQ set 13 was by far the hardest set of PQ's I've done, but I guess it doesn't matter if people can't compare. Every god damn question was a weird exception to the rule. There's just no way that on the day of the actual ...
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Re: Magistrate clerkships cd ca  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 15, at 10:55:02 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Former district Court clerk here who knows some MJ clerks. Up front, clerking for a magistrate judge in the district you want to work in is a great opportunity. It gives you a potential career mentor and connections into the local law community (both firms and local AUSAs office). Also, if the magistrate judge has been around for a while, their former clerks can help as well. Some MJ clerks use it...
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Re: NY Third Department Admissions  
  by: sg.cambs   on: July 15, at 10:54:11 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Scheduled for August 14th.

Could anyone give me some insight on whether we need to take anything to the interview (ID, copy of application?) and how it works after the interview - it says the ceremony will be 'in the morning of' August 14th, do they tell you what time to show up to the courtroom once you've completed your interview?

Thanks!
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Re: I can't stop screwing up  
  by: johnnymacaroni   on: July 15, at 10:51:25 pm   in: Legal Employment
we are all with you in the trenches, comrade. who hasnt screwed up in this weird as hell job? take the L on the chin, try to learn from it. thats all you can do. hang in there. find good people around you, whether it's at work, outside it, etc. having people to confide in nearby can work wonders. good luck, OP. we've all been there/are there.
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Re: Law firm culture? SF vs DC vs Chicago  
  by: 2013   on: July 15, at 10:46:16 pm   in: Legal Employment
Are you at least top 1/3 at a T14 or top 10% at tier 1 school? If not, it’ll probably be hard to land a job in DC through OCI.

It’ll be a waste to bid on dc if you could have a better shot in a different city (like NY).
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Thoughts on Firms Using Trait Assessments  
  by:   on: July 15, at 10:45:52 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
What are your thoughts on law firms using these trait assessments? It seems like there's not much upside in taking it (assuming it's voluntary), but a lot to lose since it provides firms with an easy way to ding applicants.

https://www.law.berkeley.edu/wp-content ... sments.pdf
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Bad Grades Interview Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 15, at 10:45:42 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Hey, everyone. So I have an interview next week for a D. Ct. clerkship, and had a question regarding discussing poor grades in the interview. I am in a small market, and the judges often hire from the four regional schools. At my school, we have a low grading curve (2.7 for 1Ls and 3.0 for 2ls and 3Ls). (Forwarning - This is personal) My 1L year—actually the week before exams—my father died of a h...
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Re: Pre-OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 15, at 10:24:55 pm   in: Legal Employment
Have a callback at one of O'Melveny/Latham and was told that this assessment was voluntary. Should I complete it? Seems like it might hurt my application more than help.

https://www.law.berkeley.edu/wp-content ... sments.pdf
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: Common stock   on: July 15, at 10:19:06 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi all-

Does anyone have the Partnerships and Real Property PDF handouts from Themis?

If so may I have them please? I’ll take them without answers if that helps.

They are the last two I’m missing.

Hoping someone can help a girl out. I’m a second time taker. I missed passing by half a point in February (135.5....and yes, I know) and I’m kinda having a meltdown.

Please. Thank you.
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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions  
  by: Lolstudent   on: July 15, at 9:52:12 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate

Igloo2022 wrote:Hey does the healthcare charges on the Cost of Attendance page account for the 12-month year, or the 9-month schoolyear? Thanks!

The amount listed on the coa page covers you for the 12 month year.
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Re: Mass SJC 2020-2021  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 15, at 9:46:58 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
bump, anyone know if they've moved yet?
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 15, at 9:38:49 pm   in: Legal Employment
LR is done, but the other journals haven't gone yet is my understanding.
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Re: 2019 July California Bar  
  by: yespasscbx   on: July 15, at 9:36:14 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

ReasonablePersonSSC wrote:
yespasscbx wrote:
ReasonablePersonSSC wrote:The email I received naming the investigator on my case (not an analyst) said I could inquiry 90 days from the receipt of the email.

Is this the same email that also said your application is 'complete and in filed status'? Thanks!

No, it was a separate email, although both were sent on the same date.

Thank you! That's very helpful - now I know what I'm waiting for
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Re: Accommodations  
  by: notatourist69   on: July 15, at 9:33:19 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
In my experience you basically get what accommodations you’ve gotten while in school but it was such an awful experience getting my first accommodations (so much paperwork and back and forth).

If you’ve gotten accommodations for anything else (SAT, GRE, etc.) you’ll basically get that exact accommodation.
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Re: Law firm culture? SF vs DC vs Chicago  
  by: oblig.lawl.ref   on: July 15, at 9:04:50 pm   in: Legal Employment
Hi all! I'm sure my question will be way too general, but I'm struggling to narrow down which cities to apply to for OCI. Right now I'm thinking San Francisco, DC, or Chicago. I like all three and don't have major geographical ties anywhere, so at this point I'm mostly thinking about quality of life and not working too crazy of hours. I know quality of life / firm culture vary a lot by firm and p...
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Re: Motivational stories about transfering  
  by: QContinuum   on: July 15, at 8:57:10 pm   in: Transfers
Here's one from TLSer hdshap in the Georgetown transfer thread this cycle! Just got my [acceptance] letter as well. Yey. Congrats!! An object lesson to all of us to not overanalyze things: I called back with my name and they said I would receive a decision in the next week or two (with a very dull voice on the other end). While not completely giving up hope, I think that means I was rejected if th...
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Re: 2019 July California Bar  
  by: ReasonablePersonSSC   on: July 15, at 8:55:04 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

yespasscbx wrote:
ReasonablePersonSSC wrote:The email I received naming the investigator on my case (not an analyst) said I could inquiry 90 days from the receipt of the email.

Is this the same email that also said your application is 'complete and in filed status'? Thanks!

No, it was a separate email, although both were sent on the same date.
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Re: Anyone else hate 85% of law students  
  by: QContinuum   on: July 15, at 8:54:20 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
On the other hand, I've met plenty of genuine, nice, down-to-earth lawyers who would gladly go dove hunting with me and settle down afterward with a cigar to talk about the influence of Aquinas' writings on the structure of the US government. To be fair, some would find the idea of discussing Medieval philosophy over cigars to be rather pretentious and self-important. :P I for one would not be ab...
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Re: Full time studying for the LSAT  
  by: QContinuum   on: July 15, at 8:49:32 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Also, will my lack of a job this summer (going into my senior year of undergrad) have an adverse effect on my applications for the fall? Not at all. Aside from Yale and Stanford, law schools care almost exclusively about GPA and LSAT. They will not care (or even really notice) your lack of a summer internship during college. Plenty of 0Ls take a summer or more off at some point before/during/afte...
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Re: Salaries at tax boutiques? (Roberts and Holland, Irvins Phillips, etc.?)  
  by: Anon2468   on: July 15, at 8:15:51 pm   in: Legal Employment
I also work at one of these. Salaries/bonuses are lower in my experience, and actual hours worked aren’t as great as they make them out to be. When you consider that it’s possible to go through some big law firms (especially in tax) billing 1800-1900 and getting full market compensation (could be 100k more at some levels) lockstep bonus (again 100k more at some levels) benefits (more generous 401...
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: Dcc617   on: July 15, at 8:06:59 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
They are. Apparently they focus on your weaknesses.

I know they're different for sure because I talked to some of my friends also doing themis
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Re: 2019 July California Bar  
  by: yespasscbx   on: July 15, at 7:59:49 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

ReasonablePersonSSC wrote:The email I received naming the investigator on my case (not an analyst) said I could inquiry 90 days from the receipt of the email.

Is this the same email that also said your application is 'complete and in filed status'? Thanks!
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Re: Themis July 2019  
  by: Dunnkirk85   on: July 15, at 7:36:36 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

other guy wrote:anyone done Mixed pqs set 8 yet?
Its brutal

That was my best set so far. Are they different for all users?
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Re: 2019 July Pennsylvania (PA) Bar Exam  
  by: max_p   on: July 15, at 7:35:44 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Took the NJ bar and passed last July. Studying for PA now while working. PA not being UBE totally sucks but overall I feel just as prepared as I did when I took NJ. The amount of topics on the PA exam is definitely a struggle though.
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Re: Pre-OCI 2019  
  by: bana79   on: July 15, at 7:34:10 pm   in: Legal Employment
Got a question for you guys that isn't worth making its own thread for. I'm applying to two different offices of the same firm both of which are doing their own recruiting and require their own separate cover letters. Ties to both markets. Is it bad if my cover letters for the two different offices are almost identical? I went to a networking event for office A and mentioned it in my cover letter ...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 15, at 7:31:06 pm   in: Legal Employment
Background: Army JAG, commissioned within last 4yrs Other anon for Army medical questions: -Our pre commissioning physicals and DCC physicals were a joke. Not invasive at all. No duck walk. They'll figure out if your hiding something major though, so I do not recommend it. -Vaccines are administered at DCC. Additional ones given at your gaining unit's discretion per it's specific mission. Do you ...
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Re: 2019 July California Bar  
  by: ReasonablePersonSSC   on: July 15, at 7:23:16 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Sorry for the sidebar, but does anyone know how long we have to wait until we can call the CA bar and ask how our moral character app is coming along? I could have sworn it was 120 days after the app is sent in but now I can’t find anything on it. By statute they have 180 days from the date they tell you it is complete and filed (this is a later date than when you you submitted it) to respond—eit...
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Re: Pre-OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 15, at 7:02:18 pm   in: Legal Employment
Denied at Paul, Weiss today 3 weeks after Callback
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Re: UVA OGI 2019  
  by: Cogburn1984   on: July 15, at 7:01:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
Should I shave my beard completely or can I roll with some neatly trimmed facial hair (beard and mustache)?
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Re: Disclosing Short Job on Resume  
  by: QContinuum   on: July 15, at 6:56:13 pm   in: Legal Employment
My other concern is dates on the resume. Am I being dishonest if I state that I've been at my current job from "September 2015 - Present" versus "September 2015 - June 2017; July 2017 - Present?" Not sure that adding the V10 does much since it was such a short time, but I think it helps show the employment timeline if I need to put down "September 2015 - June 2017; July 2...
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Re: I can't stop screwing up  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 15, at 6:48:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP here. Thanks so much to everybody for the good advice. Just this morning, I was executing documents for a closing that's happening tomorrow, and I realized one of my documents didn't have signatures. I panicked, checked everything else three times, and I started mentally preparing a "mea culpa" email to the senior associate on my deal with my apologies and proposed solution. After I'...
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Re: Salaries at tax boutiques? (Roberts and Holland, Irvins Phillips, etc.?)  
  by: QContinuum   on: July 15, at 6:46:12 pm   in: Legal Employment
I also work at one of these. Salaries/bonuses are lower in my experience, and actual hours worked aren’t as great as they make them out to be. When you consider that it’s possible to go through some big law firms (especially in tax) billing 1800-1900 and getting full market compensation (could be 100k more at some levels) lockstep bonus (again 100k more at some levels) benefits (more generous 401...
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by: totesTheGoat   on: July 15, at 6:40:30 pm   in: Legal Employment
Unfortunately it has been abused by those who try to stay away from the office I'd say that the abuse is more from the people who don't actually work, but that happens both in the office and remotely. I would work from home 5 days per week if I could. My "clients" (I'm in-house) are 3000 miles and half a world away, respectively. The only reason I have for going into the office is to se...
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Re: Practice areas that are the least “lifestyle” friendly?  
  by: QContinuum   on: July 15, at 6:36:55 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:tax deal support. tax reform has created so much extra work for us. the tax group at my V10 is hemorrhaging juniors and midlevels.
At the same time, this may be a temporary, one-off kind of situation. We're unlikely to see TCJA-level tax reform frequently/consistently.
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by: dabigchina   on: July 15, at 6:36:26 pm   in: Legal Employment

RaceJudicata wrote:But a lot of that is because the partners in my office/group work remotely WAY more than any associate.
This. My partners come into work maybe two or three times a week. I come in on those days. When they are working from home, there's no reason for me to sit alone in an empty hallway.
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Re: BigLaw firms that are progressive about working remote  
  by: RaceJudicata   on: July 15, at 6:29:44 pm   in: Legal Employment
My firm has a remote working program in place (allows for a few days at home per week). Plenty of people - mostly those with kids/long commute - take advantage of the policy and seem to enjoy it. But I think the policy just formalized the norm (for my group, at least). Plenty of associates were already working a day or two (or more) per week remotely. Again, office/group dependent, but I don’t thi...
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Re: Harvard Law Review and BSA  
  by: dm1683   on: July 15, at 6:23:59 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students

allezallez21 wrote:
dm1683 wrote:
lsthrowawayyy wrote:
alligator5 wrote:So are people thinking tomorrow?

Has anyone heard of calls going out today?

Calls went out today. At least some of them.

What time did you get the call?

around 3pm ET. No anon feature so i will be deleting this soon
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