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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 7:55:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm a 2L going to Latham next summer in one of the non-NY offices. I've found a lot of friends and people on TLS react very negatively when I tell them this. My question is: what do people have against Latham? Sure, they fired a lot of first year associates. But that was 10 years ago in one of the worst recessions ever. It's highly unlikely we will ever have a recession like that again in our lif...
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Re: Should I interview?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 7:49:20 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
How do you feel about the firm? Is it a place where you really want to work? Was it a fallback option? Based on what I saw I liked the firm and would happily work there. It's in a part of the city I like, and I hear it's less up-or-out than other biglaw firms. They also don't hire much. That said maybe after clerking, I could get some prestigious Vault firm? Who knows? And if I did would it neces...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=297982

Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: SoFlolawyer   on: September 21, at 7:38:36 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Not sure how easy this exam would be compared to last July. However, the curve may have been worse. Most of my friends at Nova failed. Friends at UF and FSU passed. Interested to see how those who passed scored on both parts. No Question: What information do they provide people who fail the Bar? They break everything down, and tell you your score, in each subject, raw and scaled. I can help your ...
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February 2019 Florida Bar- repeat takers  
  by: SoFlolawyer   on: September 21, at 7:18:07 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hello bar takers!! :D :D It is 157 days, 13 hours until the February 2019 Florida bar exam. Plenty of time!! If you are a repeat taker, and feeling discouraged, STOP feeling that way!! Famous people who have failed the bar: Hillary Clinton, JFK Jr., Franklin D. Roosevelt (I think he got a good job afterwards :D ), Michelle Obama, Ed Koch, etc., etc., You are in good company. Tenacity always wins o...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=297983

Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 7:14:43 pm   in: Legal Employment
If it’s any consolation TLS’s love for Kirkland is dumb as hell. As a Chicago associate (different firm) it’s just another firm, with associates who are buried to shit all the time and a good portion of whom burn out and go work for city government after a year or two. I actually don't see too much K&E love on TLS. If anything, many posters appear to have something of an aversion to Kirkland'...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297963

Re: Should I interview?  
  by: lavarman84   on: September 21, at 7:05:50 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
How do you feel about the firm? Is it a place where you really want to work? Was it a fallback option?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=297982

Should I interview?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 7:01:17 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Stats: T20, top 10% GPA, LR (non e-board). No-offered from biglaw SA, but since secured a market-paying midlaw offer. The problem is that the midlaw firm will NOT hold a spot for me if I clerk. I have an interview with a flyover (think Arizona/New Mexico/non-metro Texas) District Court clerkship. Should I interview for this hoping to get it and then do the job search again in a year? Or take what ...
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 6:55:06 pm   in: Legal Employment
Man, I'm not the OP of this whole thread, but I am another 2L who's going to be summering at Latham, and I've got to say that this thread has gotten me feeling very down. I'm still excited to go to biglaw and I thought Latham would be a good place for me to be, but I never knew Latham was so hated by the TLS crowd. I get that Latham's not the most prestigious firm out there, but I don't think it'...
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: carsondalywashere   on: September 21, at 6:52:31 pm   in: Legal Employment

legalace wrote:
And Latham is really a fine firm. You last 6 years at Latham, your next job will be really good

What is your definition of "really good"? Bear in mind that if you are a litigator, your next job will be in a law firm, not in house.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297963

Re: Junior concerned about hours  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 6:50:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
I had hours like you my first year (same deal: great reviews but nearly no work..) and had 2300 my second. The fact you’re in a smaller satellite office gives me pause though. I’d definitely be casually looking to be safe, but I’m sure they’d give you a huge leadtime warning if they were to actually cut you out.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297980

Re: 3.35 gpa/179 LSAT/4yrsW/E - CLS,NYU,UPEN  
  by: Ssar   on: September 21, at 6:44:59 pm   in: What are my chances?
Your gpa will be graded as superior etc, rather than translated to a number, which for the purposes of applications means that it doesn’t really count (unless it’s low enough to hurt you). International GPAs don’t get reported to USNWR for rankings purposes, so carry less weight. The good thing is that this means your LSAT will carry even more weight; the bad thing is that you don’t have one yet....
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=297974

Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: SoFlolawyer   on: September 21, at 6:11:48 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I'm in need of some real help here... I took this thing 6 times, I work full time, and usually can only take off for 2 weeks max (this includes the tues and wed of the exam). I have 2 kids and im the only source of income for my family. Everything that goes towards my bar exam is money borrowed in which I owe interest... Has anyone taken Themis as a retaker and passed? I am thinking about taking ...
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Junior concerned about hours  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 5:57:26 pm   in: Legal Employment
I’ve been here for almost 12 months and my annualized billable hours is roughly 1300 hours. I’m concerned that I’ll get fired. I’m in a satellite of a V50 and everyone else seems to be busy. My practice group has 1 partner, 1 super senior (class of 07) associate and me in the office. We don’t really work across offices that often. Should I start looking for another job? I haven’t been told my work...
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Re: NY Offers  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 5:50:04 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Any morgan lewis offers from cbs this week?

MLB ding, Callback early this week
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: justanotheruser   on: September 21, at 5:44:08 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Anyone going to start preemptively studying while they’re waiting for the results? I’m considering starting either in October or November. There was an essay I know botched hard (Evidence) which is bugging me. Plus other minor essay errors. Felt good when I left but good grief the waiting process is such a bummer lol Multiple repeater here who just passed the Feb 2018 exam after failing 5 times. ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=286381

Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 5:34:25 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anything from CDCA?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=271001

Re: CDCA AUSA Interview  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 5:30:24 pm   in: Legal Employment
Any activity on the CDCA front? Noticed that they had postings in July and just put up new postings for the same number of spots. Ideas on what's going on?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=287102

Re: NY Offers  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 5:11:38 pm   in: Legal Employment
Failed to get a job through OCI. Even with about 8 callbacks couldn't get an offer. Really at a loss for what to do now. I want to go in to transactional work. FWIW, even though it clearly didn't make the difference for OCIs, top 15% of class on Law Review and moot court. Really at a loss right now, feeling like the work I put in was all for nought last year, so really any advice would be greatly...
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Re: The Official November 2018 LSAT Study Group  
  by: Former R1 3v3   on: September 21, at 5:09:15 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Hey everyone! :) Just made this account. Wanted to write a quick introduction and also a short list of some questions that I have about the LSAT exam. My name is Mike and I am getting ready to take the LSAT for the first time this coming November. I am both extremely excited but also very nervous. I just began studying by using the free Khan Academy LSAT preparation guides and resources. I also or...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=296680

Re: Military Law  
  by: Backload   on: September 21, at 5:06:42 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:For any AF selectees scheduled for the January class: do you know your base yet? If so, which is it?

You won’t find out your base until you fully complete MEPs and get all of your other documentation in. I did not find out my base until a month prior to COT
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Quick Questions & Happy Hello's  
  by: Former R1 3v3   on: September 21, at 5:06:04 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Hey everyone! :) Just made this account. Wanted to write a quick introduction and also a short list of some questions that I have about the LSAT exam. My name is Mike and I am getting ready to take the LSAT for the first time this coming November. I am both extremely excited but also very nervous. I just began studying by using the free Khan Academy LSAT preparation guides and resources. I also or...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=297979

Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 5:03:41 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone heard anything from EDVA?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=271001

Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: lnu1992   on: September 21, at 4:45:37 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Anyone going to start preemptively studying while they’re waiting for the results? I’m considering starting either in October or November. There was an essay I know botched hard (Evidence) which is bugging me. Plus other minor essay errors. Felt good when I left but good grief the waiting process is such a bummer lol Nope. I am keeping concepts fresh in my brain but not going to study. Having fai...
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Re: What is the process for asking firms to pay for bar prep?  
  by: longwait   on: September 21, at 4:27:32 pm   in: Legal Employment
Maybe email the firm recruiter--the person coordinating the summer program.
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Re: 3.35 gpa/179 LSAT/4yrsW/E - CLS,NYU,UPEN  
  by: nixy   on: September 21, at 4:26:59 pm   in: What are my chances?
Your gpa will be graded as superior etc, rather than translated to a number, which for the purposes of applications means that it doesn’t really count (unless it’s low enough to hurt you). International GPAs don’t get reported to USNWR for rankings purposes, so carry less weight. The good thing is that this means your LSAT will carry even more weight; the bad thing is that you don’t have one yet. ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=297974

Writing Personal Statements  
  by: MASH_Law   on: September 21, at 4:24:38 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
I just found this great essay for tips on writing personal statements. There are examples, as well.

https://www.washington.edu/uaa/advising ... nt_law.pdf
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 4:10:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
For any AF selectees scheduled for the January class: do you know your base yet? If so, which is it?
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Re: 3.35 gpa/179 LSAT/4yrsW/E - CLS,NYU,UPEN  
  by: Ssar   on: September 21, at 3:57:56 pm   in: What are my chances?
Albanach - not sure why my first response to you wasn’t approved but I’ve rewritten it.. There is a standard conversion for UK GPA's - either a numerical form or an average, above average, superior ranking. My conversion to the numerical value is based on all the online sources I have seen for systems which convert international grades, e.g. fullbright. My intention was to provide the target audie...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: MBernard   on: September 21, at 3:57:52 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Anyone going to start preemptively studying while they’re waiting for the results? I’m considering starting either in October or November. There was an essay I know botched hard (Evidence) which is bugging me. Plus other minor essay errors. Felt good when I left but good grief the waiting process is such a bummer lol
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=286381

Re: Anyone have inside knowledge on Big 4 compensation?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 3:55:36 pm   in: Legal Employment
I understand that I came off sounding like I had options when I do not have anything lined up - I do realize that right now I am screwed. Luckily I will be graduating very little debt and my financial situation is a lot better than most law students, (I obviously do not want to be unemployed at graduation). I have been mass mailing, networking, and reaching out to Career services as much as possi...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: Molj1987   on: September 21, at 3:53:45 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

SaiyanRose wrote:Some of your grades are fishy...

How so, exactly?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=248152

Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 3:43:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
Jones Day in Dallas is looking for 3Ls for its transactional group.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=192753

Re: NY Offers  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 3:40:45 pm   in: Legal Employment
Failed to get a job through OCI. Even with about 8 callbacks couldn't get an offer. Really at a loss for what to do now. I want to go in to transactional work. FWIW, even though it clearly didn't make the difference for OCIs, top 15% of class on Law Review and moot court. Really at a loss right now, feeling like the work I put in was all for nought last year, so really any advice would be greatly ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297078

Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: SaiyanRose   on: September 21, at 3:27:11 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Some of your grades are fishy...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=248152

Follow TLS on Facebook and LinkedIn!  
  by: tlsadmin3   on: September 21, at 3:20:20 pm   in: Legal Employment
Come follow us on our newly updated pages on Facebook and LinkedIn pages to keep up with all the new posts, stories, and exciting changes.

https://www.facebook.com/TopLawSchoolstls/

https://www.linkedin.com/company/top-law-schools-llc/
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Re: NY Offers  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 3:07:31 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Any updates on Kelley Drye? Dings or Offers?
Ding awhile back
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Re: NY Offers  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 3:01:57 pm   in: Legal Employment
Any morgan lewis offers from cbs this week?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297078

Re: Anyone have inside knowledge on Big 4 compensation?  
  by: bigben439   on: September 21, at 2:51:06 pm   in: Legal Employment
I understand that I came off sounding like I had options when I do not have anything lined up - I do realize that right now I am screwed. Luckily I will be graduating very little debt and my financial situation is a lot better than most law students, (I obviously do not want to be unemployed at graduation). I have been mass mailing, networking, and reaching out to Career services as much as possib...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297882

Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: estefanchanning   on: September 21, at 2:50:47 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
So the question remains if ca test takers can get a score advisory for other states prior to the release of bar exam results. Has anyone tried? How long does the process take? If it’s rwlativly quick I’m willing to try if no one else hasn’t. Ordinarily, MBE Score Advisories are processed the next business day after receipt of payment, but not until after the testing jurisdiction has announced its...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: Molj1987   on: September 21, at 2:45:07 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Part A: 167
Part B: 169
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: Molj1987   on: September 21, at 2:41:04 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Simulated MBE (Themis): 140ish
Actual MBE (July 2018): 169
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: scard   on: September 21, at 2:33:42 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
So the question remains if ca test takers can get a score advisory for other states prior to the release of bar exam results. Has anyone tried?

How long does the process take? If it’s rwlativly quick I’m willing to try if no one else hasn’t.
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 2:26:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
Looks like Monday might be the day?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=223986

Re: What is the process for asking firms to pay for bar prep?  
  by: gasfard   on: September 21, at 2:21:54 pm   in: Legal Employment
They'll send you an email about the process early next year or so
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 2:09:32 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Any October 2018 Army class people still awaiting orders? Have any gotten your orders or IRR already?

Checking in
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What is the process for asking firms to pay for bar prep?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 1:47:51 pm   in: Legal Employment
I’m a 3L who got a BigLaw job this year, no former SA experience. I was wondering how people approach firms about paying for bar prep since I have not heard anything about it (and I assume that all v100 firms pay for such prep course). Can anyone provide insight as to steps to take and when? Much appreciated!
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: Deng890   on: September 21, at 1:41:06 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Stats

Part A: 152
Part B: 170

Still in shock at my MBE score, thought I had totally screwed the pooch on that one. Maybe I should quit practicing law and become an MBE tutor.
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: legalace   on: September 21, at 1:37:53 pm   in: Legal Employment

And Latham is really a fine firm. You last 6 years at Latham, your next job will be really good

What is your definition of "really good"? Bear in mind that if you are a litigator, your next job will be in a law firm, not in house.
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Re: NY Offers  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 1:34:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
Any updates on Kelley Drye? Dings or Offers?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297078

Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: al_decisis731   on: September 21, at 1:26:04 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
That is probably the most frustrating part of this whole process. The scaling for the MBE has already been completed, but we have to wait this whole time for our MBE score.


Nightcrawler wrote:Thanks guys. For a moment I thought that I could shorten my wait to get the results. So frustrating knowing that my MBE score is out there, nice and ready...

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Re: Anyone know what day Winston NY hiring committee meets?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 1:13:56 pm   in: Legal Employment
I don't know how much help this is, but my Winston LA CB took almost 3 weeks to get back to me (rejection).
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297948

Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: Nightcrawler   on: September 21, at 1:06:40 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Thanks guys. For a moment I thought that I could shorten my wait to get the results. So frustrating knowing that my MBE score is out there, nice and ready...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=281735

Re: ED to Georgetown Evening Program with 2.9?  
  by: totesTheGoat   on: September 21, at 12:57:25 pm   in: What are my chances?
-GT doesn't appear to allow pre-interview meetings due to the large applicant pool. Any advice on how to navigate that? Is this just a networking exercise? I'd personally email an admissions counselor and ask if you could have an in-face meeting with them to discuss the best way to proceed with your application. Mention that you're considering possibly doing ED. Understood in the working while st...
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 12:53:58 pm   in: Legal Employment
The thing is, there’s not this strict hierarchy of firms like 2Ls think there is. Vault creates this hugely misleading impression, much like USNews law school rankings did before they went to “tiers” below the top group. And Latham is really a fine firm. You last 6 years at Latham, your next job will be really good (and a hell of a lot better than the job of the Cravath guy who lasted 2 years ......
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Re: I just got an email from NYS BOLE re: admission requirements from this exam  
  by: EncyclopediaOrange   on: September 21, at 12:46:13 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

EncyclopediaOrange wrote:I just got one from the 3rd department... which I hope doesn't mean I will be certified to the third department. All of my forms have been completed for the first and I live in Manhattan.

The email was sent to everyone who would have been in the 3rd department when we took the exam, it does not necessarily mean you will be certified to the 3rd department.
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Re: Solid career managing a software team. Should I make the leap?  
  by: totesTheGoat   on: September 21, at 12:36:27 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum

goldenbear2020 wrote:Since you're not bound to any location, why not apply to GULC PT and keep your lucrative day job?

Sounds like a good idea at first glance, but it's a horrible idea. Never go to PT law school while working a FT career-path job. You will regret it. Having a family and a managerial role makes it a doubly bad idea.

/the voice of experience
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Re: Solid career managing a software team. Should I make the leap?  
  by: goldenbear2020   on: September 21, at 12:33:43 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Since you're not bound to any location, why not apply to GULC PT and keep your lucrative day job?
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Re: 3.35 gpa/179 LSAT/4yrsW/E - CLS,NYU,UPEN  
  by: albanach   on: September 21, at 12:27:55 pm   in: What are my chances?
And to clarify since I hadn't explored the 'posts' option and can see what I posted before - I have had 3 years postgrad WE and a year during UG referred to as a placement year in the UK. It's technically an extended internship lasting a year to give undergrads a WE booster. This doesn't help us much. WE and externships won't make much difference to your cycle. What counts are your LSAT and your ...
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Re: ED to Georgetown Evening Program with 2.9?  
  by: rgwen   on: September 21, at 12:25:10 pm   in: What are my chances?
Thanks both for the replies. A couple follow ups: -GT doesn't appear to allow pre-interview meetings due to the large applicant pool. Any advice on how to navigate that? Is this just a networking exercise? -Understood in the working while studying point. I actually did the MPA evenings/weekends while in banking/reserves so know it can be tough. Of course, a JD would likely be tougher. I'm hoping t...
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by:   on: September 21, at 12:05:45 pm   in: Legal Employment
The thing is, there’s not this strict hierarchy of firms like 2Ls think there is. Vault creates this hugely misleading impression, much like USNews law school rankings did before they went to “tiers” below the top group. And Latham is really a fine firm. You last 6 years at Latham, your next job will be really good (and a hell of a lot better than the job of the Cravath guy who lasted 2 years ......
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Re: Akin Gump Dallas —tell me what you know!!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 11:57:41 am   in: Legal Employment
Face time requirements? Telecommuting? Leaving at a decent time? Weekend work? What are the norms in this office? I’m considering an offer but don’t want to start my career off on the wrong foot when I know I’m looking for somewhere humane (for biglaw). Oh and I’m doing litigation. Do you have any other offers? This sounds suggestive that I should avoid if possible. Was that your intention? Just ...
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Re: Anyone have inside knowledge on Big 4 compensation?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 11:53:35 am   in: Legal Employment
OP, thank you very much for this post, have been looking for something like this for a while. I am a JD/Tax LLM student, top 20% at top 50 school. Looking for 2L summer position, looks like I struck out at OCI (like most of my peers). Really on the fence if I should put more effort into trying to find something in Big4 or midlaw, or to take whatever comes my way . I would like to be doing substan...
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: InterAlia1961   on: September 21, at 11:52:25 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

kiwh wrote:It would not let me reply. It says the option is not available because I am to new or don't post enough. Here is an e-mail address I normally do not use. You can e-mail me through here if would like. risknik@sbcglobal.net.

Kim

Done. Check for an email from BigMartha@mail.com.
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Re: 3.35 gpa/179 LSAT/4yrsW/E - CLS,NYU,UPEN  
  by: Ssar   on: September 21, at 11:51:31 am   in: What are my chances?
And to clarify since I hadn't explored the 'posts' option and can see what I posted before - I have had 3 years postgrad WE and a year during UG referred to as a placement year in the UK. It's technically an extended internship lasting a year to give undergrads a WE booster.
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by:   on: September 21, at 11:39:01 am   in: Legal Employment
At least it's not as bad as the insane hate Quinn gets on these forums.
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: longwait   on: September 21, at 11:37:01 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

JohnnieSockran wrote:When are the results scheduled to be released, out of curiosity?
November 16th
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Backload   on: September 21, at 11:27:34 am   in: Legal Employment
I also received my rejection e-mail from USAF this morning. Not a pleasant way to start the day! While I knew this was a real possibility, I'm still pretty disappointed. But at least there's another board in November! Since they said they weren't giving individual feedback before the next board, it is unclear to me whether I should change anything in my application before resubmitting for the Nov...
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Re: Clerkship bonuses going up?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 11:16:19 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Are there firms that do not have a 1- or 2-year requirement/clawback? I've heard S&C -- any others?
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 21, at 11:13:06 am   in: Law School FAQ
For OP, the analysis for Southern is as follows: 1) $100k in lost wages + any cost of living that isn't covered by their benefactor 2) 50/50 in a vacuum, maybe 75/25 if the OP's connections are as good as they think they are 3) Let's say there's a 68% chance of OP getting a decent job (halfway between 50/50 and 75/25) at a median income of $75k (Southern doesn't release salary info, so I'm being ...
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 21, at 11:00:22 am   in: Legal Employment
Generally, I am happy that I chose Latham, been here a few years now, and I don't think any readers/posters should feel like they made a bad decision. ... I don't know where the idea comes from that Latham wouldn't fire people again. When asked that question last year, pre-scandal Bill Voge essentially and openly said "I'd do it again." I don't think that anyone at Latham is under the i...
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: kiwh   on: September 21, at 10:55:49 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
It would not let me reply. It says the option is not available because I am to new or don't post enough. Here is an e-mail address I normally do not use. You can e-mail me through here if would like. risknik@sbcglobal.net.

Kim
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Re: Too many student loans and out of cash  
  by: albanach   on: September 21, at 10:54:45 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I'm sure someone else did the math, but if you average $100k over 30 years, you pay significantly less on income based repayment than actually paying back that kind of money. You'd pay back $250k total. If your goal is to move in house after 2 or 3 years, I think 30 yr repayment is always the way to go. By paying significantly less, do you mean when the balance gets discharged at the end of IBR? ...
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Re: NY Offers  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 10:48:59 am   in: Legal Employment
Wave of Stroock dings. Early August CB, put on hold in late August. They decreased class size in NY from 12 to 8, so this was expected. I believe the decrease happened after they scheduled interviews, but can't confirm this. Yeah, I was told 12 at the screener, then told decreased to 8 at the callback Same on both fronts. Wave of rejections yesterday and had heard of the same decrease at my callb...
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Re: Too many student loans and out of cash  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 10:45:26 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I'm sure someone else did the math, but if you average $100k over 30 years, you pay significantly less on income based repayment than actually paying back that kind of money. You'd pay back $250k total. If your goal is to move in house after 2 or 3 years, I think 30 yr repayment is always the way to go. This, of course, assumes that you want that sword of damocles hanging over your head. Personal...
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Re: Solid career managing a software team. Should I make the leap?  
  by: mtxv14   on: September 21, at 10:33:32 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
My reasons for wanting to become a lawyer are for similar reasons I enjoy software development. I like challenging problems and crafting solutions. Don't go to law school. There is no genuine creative outlet in law like there is in software development. /former computer engineer turned lawyer Am I nuts for giving up a great career in my mid-30's? Is my expectation to get into HYS with a 3.4, 172,...
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Re: San Diego Firms that hire 1st Year Associates  
  by: SFSpartan   on: September 21, at 10:28:19 am   in: Legal Employment
Can confirm that Robbins Geller and Procopio have summer programs and hire first year associates (had classmates that were part of each firm's summer class). Not familiar with the other firms OP mentioned, so can't speak to them, but agree with the above anon's assessment of large law firms. For non-biglaw firms, hiring is probably going to be like it is for non-biglaw firms everywhere (i.e. async...
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Re: 3.35 gpa/179 LSAT/4yrsW/E - CLS,NYU,UPEN  
  by: albanach   on: September 21, at 10:20:58 am   in: What are my chances?
I graduated in the U.K. with a degree in political science - have been told by other applicants that my addendum will cover my low GPA. I've had 4 years work experience since (In regulatory compliance/2yrs senior) and will be 27 when I begin law school. Do you think CLS, NYU, Penn or Cornell would take a second look at my application? I'm not sure if I'm the best candidate for a scholarship given...
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: InterAlia1961   on: September 21, at 10:16:17 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

kiwh wrote:InterAlia, Is there a way to PM you? I have a question for you. I tried to PM but it said I did not have that feature.

I PMed you. You should be able to reply. I'm not sure how to turn on the feature on your end.
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 10:11:25 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I’ve interviewed with ddc. Have you had the first interview yet?

My first and second round interviews will be in a few weeks. They are being held on the same day because I am coming in from far away.

I had a second but crickets since. I’m very interested to know how long after the second they call back for a third, and what percentage move onto a third interview.
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Re: Contingency in SA Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 10:02:41 am   in: Legal Employment
One of my offers at a v70 also have this language and I'm top third at CCN. I'm sure this is just boilerplate. Congrats on your amazing outcome though!
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Re: NY Offers  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 9:59:58 am   in: Legal Employment

Greenlanpern wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Wave of Stroock dings. Early August CB, put on hold in late August.
They decreased class size in NY from 12 to 8, so this was expected. I believe the decrease happened after they scheduled interviews, but can't confirm this.
Yeah, I was told 12 at the screener, then told decreased to 8 at the callback
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3.35 gpa/179 LSAT/4yrsW/E - CLS,NYU,UPEN  
  by: Ssar   on: September 21, at 9:47:37 am   in: What are my chances?
I graduated in the U.K. with a degree in political science - have been told by other applicants that my addendum will cover my low GPA. I've had 4 years work experience since (In regulatory compliance/2yrs senior) and will be 27 when I begin law school. Do you think CLS, NYU, Penn or Cornell would take a second look at my application? I'm not sure if I'm the best candidate for a scholarship given ...
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Re: San Diego Firms that hire 1st Year Associates  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 9:47:24 am   in: Legal Employment
Yes, they do, but they don't do OCI, as far as I know so you'll have to apply directly. I assume you don't think you're in the running for biglaw?

Biglaw firms that have respectable offices in SD: Cooley, Latham, Jones Day, Mofo, Sheppard, and probably a handful more. All of those have summer classes of 4-10.
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: kiwh   on: September 21, at 9:45:59 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
InterAlia, Is there a way to PM you? I have a question for you. I tried to PM but it said I did not have that feature.
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 9:41:14 am   in: Legal Employment
FWIW, I think Latham has more "prestige" on the west coast and is certainly the biggest fish in some of the secondary markets. Also, although it is highly dependent on practice group/partner you work for, IME Latham doesn't have many or any screamy/abusive people (at least not my office) and the people tend to be pretty laid back as far as biglaw goes. On average, facetime (at least outs...
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Re: I just got an email from NYS BOLE re: admission requirements from this exam  
  by: TheJuryMustDie   on: September 21, at 9:33:55 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

EncyclopediaOrange wrote:I just got one from the 3rd department... which I hope doesn't mean I will be certified to the third department. All of my forms have been completed for the first and I live in Manhattan.

Got one for the 3rd Department too. I need to start putting documents together then.. Fingers crossed.
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 9:28:44 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:I’ve interviewed with ddc. Have you had the first interview yet?

My first and second round interviews will be in a few weeks. They are being held on the same day because I am coming in from far away.
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Re: Anyone know what day Winston NY hiring committee meets?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 9:20:31 am   in: Legal Employment
Anyone hear anything? Does anyone know if their class is filled now?
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Re: Contingency in SA Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 9:16:58 am   in: Legal Employment
Did anyone else get an SA offer that is contingent on maintaining your GPA through 2L? I have median grades at a Tier 2 school and severely over-performed during OCI, landing a V10 firm. While I am ecstatic about the offer, I am curious whether this contingency is the norm. You a URM? OP here. Not at all. I think I am proof that networking can help, even with shitty grades. Is this for a satellit...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: lnu1992   on: September 21, at 9:14:27 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
https://abovethelaw.com/2018/09/mbe-sco ... -year-low/

Written component is tracking MBE low mean.
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Re: I just got an email from NYS BOLE re: admission requirements from this exam  
  by: EncyclopediaOrange   on: September 21, at 9:13:49 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I just got one from the 3rd department... which I hope doesn't mean I will be certified to the third department. All of my forms have been completed for the first and I live in Manhattan.
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Re: Important advice to 1Ls  
  by: Mimi1991   on: September 21, at 9:13:42 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
So I am a 1L evening student work full-time as a litigation paralegal. However, we had our first graded quiz. After the quiz I felt good with my essay portion and just ok about the multiple choice. Should I be concerned that afterwards most of my classmates were sharing with each other about how they had more “A” answer choices in the first 5 questions whereas I may have only had like 1, or 2?
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Re: ED to Georgetown Evening Program with 2.9?  
  by: totesTheGoat   on: September 21, at 9:07:17 am   in: What are my chances?
I agree with albanach. You have enough interesting stuff going on with your resume that you should probably get advice straight from the horse's mouth. I think you should also get a not-yet-expired score of some sort (LSAT vastly preferred) so that you and the admissions counselor know exactly what you're working with. I'll also add my blanket warning to never go to night school if you plan on wor...
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Re: UBE transfer- Really need advice  
  by: cookieslaw15   on: September 21, at 9:04:02 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I have this friend who is in this same predicament. He's from Jersey, and he got a 265 in Feb 2018. Is it honestly worth it to get admitted to any of the 260 UBE states? Anyone with experience here in the tri-state area, who went this route, can you shed some light on the price, CLE reqs...etc. My friend does not really care about the fifis involved in calling himself an attorney, hes looking at t...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: totesTheGoat   on: September 21, at 8:57:56 am   in: Law School FAQ
I'm still in the process. I'm not saying there are guarantees but it's not a guaranteed life ruiner like everyone is saying. Every school has some good outcomes. Nobody says it's a "guaranteed life ruiner", you're just being defensive because people are trashing on your life decisions. Whether or not it can be done has zero bearing on whether or not somebody should intentionally do it. ...
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Re: SECOND DEPARTMENT ADMISSION CHARACTER AND FITNESS  
  by: gom.sa   on: September 21, at 8:49:37 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I've got a DAT for trespassing as well as a one ticket each for open container, public urination, blocking pedestrian traffic on the subway. Any idea on how to properly disclose this? Should I obtain court records - if so, how would I go about doing so?
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Re: ED to Georgetown Evening Program with 2.9?  
  by: albanach   on: September 21, at 8:45:13 am   in: What are my chances?

rgwen wrote:Nothing to lose by giving it a shot, but still would appreciate any feedback/advice:

My advice would be to go meet an admissions officer in person. Obviously you have a lot of strong selling points that would make your application attractive. I'd be surprised if, given it's DC, they haven't had similar applications in the past.
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Re: Military Law  
  by: annon1234   on: September 21, at 8:04:31 am   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone requested feedback from their FSO/interviewees and received anything useful for reapplication to the next round? Curious if they are able to tell you why you why they didn't rank you higher or what you could possibly change for the next selection board. I also got rejected from Air Force and have my Army FSO interview coming up...wondering if they are able to give me any useful feedbac...
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Re: Contingency in SA Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 8:00:57 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Did anyone else get an SA offer that is contingent on maintaining your GPA through 2L? I have median grades at a Tier 2 school and severely over-performed during OCI, landing a V10 firm. While I am ecstatic about the offer, I am curious whether this contingency is the norm.
You a URM?

OP here. Not at all. I think I am proof that networking can help, even with shitty grades.
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Re: NY Offers  
  by: Greenlanpern   on: September 21, at 7:54:07 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Wave of Stroock dings. Early August CB, put on hold in late August.
They decreased class size in NY from 12 to 8, so this was expected. I believe the decrease happened after they scheduled interviews, but can't confirm this.
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Re: Contingency in SA Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 7:52:49 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Did anyone else get an SA offer that is contingent on maintaining your GPA through 2L? I have median grades at a Tier 2 school and severely over-performed during OCI, landing a V10 firm. While I am ecstatic about the offer, I am curious whether this contingency is the norm.
You a URM?
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Re: New Jersey Firms  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 7:45:12 am   in: Legal Employment
Lowenstein moves really fast with offers, I think b/c they have a pretty big summer class, but other NJ firms have seemed to move a lot slower probably b/c of their small class size. They have to wait for each offer to accept/decline before extending more.
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: TheJuryMustDie   on: September 21, at 7:13:33 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
My actual, scaled MBE was 20 points higher than my Barbri simulation. My Barbri simulation was pretty good, so I was absolutely convinced that I would be one of the few people who score lower on the real thing. Also, like many others, I felt (after taking the exam) that Barbri had not adequately prepared me for the real thing. But, it all ended up working out; I passed by a wide margin! Hopefully...
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by:   on: September 21, at 6:36:58 am   in: Legal Employment
The thing is, there’s not this strict hierarchy of firms like 2Ls think there is. Vault creates this hugely misleading impression, much like USNews law school rankings did before they went to “tiers” below the top group. And Latham is really a fine firm. You last 6 years at Latham, your next job will be really good (and a hell of a lot better than the job of the Cravath guy who lasted 2 years ...)...
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 5:56:45 am   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone gotten an offer from ddc? If so, when? How long was the third interview after the second?
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 5:47:05 am   in: Legal Employment
I’ve interviewed with ddc. Have you had the first interview yet?
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Re: Contingency in SA Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 5:06:32 am   in: Legal Employment
How explicit was it? If it's the v10 offer letter with grades language that I've seen, which just said you're expected to maintain the same level of academic excellence, that's not a contingency and is, I think, understood to be the case everywhere. If it said something like, your grades must stay above a 3 x or this offer is void, then maybe take that more serious (but I doubt this is the case)
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: Loquitur Res   on: September 21, at 3:54:22 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
My actual, scaled MBE was 20 points higher than my Barbri simulation. My Barbri simulation was pretty good, so I was absolutely convinced that I would be one of the few people who score lower on the real thing. Also, like many others, I felt (after taking the exam) that Barbri had not adequately prepared me for the real thing. But, it all ended up working out; I passed by a wide margin! Hopefully ...
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Re: Skadden Fellowship  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 21, at 2:35:35 am   in: Legal Employment
I’ve applied but am still waiting to hear back. I just skimmed a past forum. It seems like they notify you 9-10 days after the application deadline. Since our apps were due Sept. 17, I think that they’ll make calls on Sept. 26 but possibly the 27th as well.
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Re: Contingency in SA Offer  
  by: BeeTeeZ   on: September 21, at 2:23:25 am   in: Legal Employment
Did anyone else get an SA offer that is contingent on maintaining your GPA through 2L? I have median grades at a Tier 2 school and severely over-performed during OCI, landing a V10 firm. While I am ecstatic about the offer, I am curious whether this contingency is the norm. You're fine. Think about it. If they were *that* worried about your grades they wouldn't have offered you in the first place.
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: 2013   on: September 21, at 1:44:27 am   in: Legal Employment
Man, I'm not the OP of this whole thread, but I am another 2L who's going to be summering at Latham, and I've got to say that this thread has gotten me feeling very down. I'm still excited to go to biglaw and I thought Latham would be a good place for me to be, but I never knew Latham was so hated by the TLS crowd. I get that Latham's not the most prestigious firm out there, but I don't think it'...
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: FinallyPassedTheBar   on: September 21, at 12:37:36 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Wait, wait, wait. Does that trick work for CA?! For CA, you can only request the NCBE score advisory to get an estimate of your real MBE score. This service cost $25 The NCBE score advisory tells you if you MBE score is high enough to waive into Wash. DC (133), and Minnesota (145), North Dakota (150). So, for example, if the NCBE says your score is high enough to waive into DC and Minnesota, but ...
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Re: Contingency in SA Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 10:29:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
I don't recall any of my SA offer letters including a GPA stipulation (aside from general language about being in good academic standing). Maybe a new trend? In any case, OP will likely be fine so long as s/he stays at median during 2L. Load up on the seminars!
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 20, at 10:24:25 pm   in: Law School FAQ
I'm still in the process. I'm not saying there are guarantees but it's not a guaranteed life ruiner like everyone is saying. Every school has some good outcomes. Some people get rich at the casino. That doesn't make Las Vegas a sound investment strategy. If you go to a school where 35% (Cooley) or almost 50% of graduates (Southern) haven't passed the bar two years after graduation then you're tak...
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Re: networking is pretty useless without good grades  
  by: L'orDuCommun   on: September 20, at 10:16:42 pm   in: Legal Employment
Your career doesn't end the moment you get a job. You're networking for the future, not just to get a job. Think about it as a long term effort.
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 20, at 10:15:55 pm   in: Legal Employment
Man, I'm not the OP of this whole thread, but I am another 2L who's going to be summering at Latham, and I've got to say that this thread has gotten me feeling very down. I'm still excited to go to biglaw and I thought Latham would be a good place for me to be, but I never knew Latham was so hated by the TLS crowd. I get that Latham's not the most prestigious firm out there, but I don't think it'...
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Re: E-mail school correcting this mistake?  
  by: Greenlanpern   on: September 20, at 10:12:57 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Just send an updated resume w some updates. Keep it at that. No need to point it out.
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 10:11:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone interviewed with D.DC? I have interviews coming up soon.
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: el madrileno   on: September 20, at 10:09:28 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Cop2lawyerNYC wrote:
el madrileno wrote:Actual score 168.7. I was around 76-84% in the final two weeks of prep.

76-84% on Barbri or Adaptibar/past MBEs? Also, what percentage of these questions were questions you’ve already done?

Themis, and about ~4-6%. In a set of 50, 2 or 3 would be questions from a practice set I created for myself to target a specific subject.
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Re: C&F Traffic Violation  
  by: albanach   on: September 20, at 10:03:46 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
Ok, I'm not an Illinois attorney, this is not legal advice. I don't know any details of your driving record so this is my general thoughts on the questionnaire as I found it online. Here's what I found as the question: "During the last 25 years, have you been formally or informally detained, restrained, cited, summoned into court, taken into custody, arrested, accused, charged, convicted, pla...
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Re: networking is pretty useless without good grades  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 9:31:03 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP, I'm led to believe that you have minimal work experience because of your dismissal of networking. I'm not trying to come off as condescending. I just know that students without work experience find networking difficult or just don't understand how it works. Don't worry, it'll come with time. Think of it this way: you have more time to learn and hit your stride than the older students. But I th...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: albanach   on: September 20, at 9:29:23 pm   in: Law School FAQ
I'm still in the process. I'm not saying there are guarantees but it's not a guaranteed life ruiner like everyone is saying. Every school has some good outcomes. Some people get rich at the casino. That doesn't make Las Vegas a sound investment strategy. If you go to a school where 35% (Cooley) or almost 50% of graduates (Southern) haven't passed the bar two years after graduation then you're tak...
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Re: Foreign trained attorney looking for a bar prep course  
  by: nkiruka   on: September 20, at 9:24:56 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi! I'm a fresh grad, recently completed my LLB in UK. I have no hands-on legal experience, no friends who are working towards the NY bar, and no knowledge of US law! I'm hoping to take the NY bar in July 2019, and I'd like to start a study group/correspond with people who are in the same boat as me! Currently looking at Themis vs Barmax, planning on getting Adaptibar too. Does anyone have any he...
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Re: Contingency in SA Offer  
  by: NPM9099   on: September 20, at 9:24:30 pm   in: Legal Employment
Completely normal and you have nothing to worry about so long as you don't get starkly different grades from what you applied with.
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Contingency in SA Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 9:18:35 pm   in: Legal Employment
Did anyone else get an SA offer that is contingent on maintaining your GPA through 2L? I have median grades at a Tier 2 school and severely over-performed during OCI, landing a V10 firm. While I am ecstatic about the offer, I am curious whether this contingency is the norm.
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Re: Withers Worldwide?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 9:06:57 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Anyone has update about offer?

Nothing yet...

Any knowledge about how/when they might ding people
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Re: Kavanaugh Reports and Clerkship Placement  
  by: mjb447   on: September 20, at 8:50:28 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Agree with the takes here - pretty much the only effective way to get your app pulled from the stack for a clerkship that competitive is to have absolutely stellar credentials or connections, usually both. Otherwise, I suppose it's possible that a prof could condition a recommendation on something more than just "I know who you are and I know you'll do great work," like loyalty or someth...
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Re: Gunderson vs. V10  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 8:48:25 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm a recent graduate starting at one of Gunderson's offices. Given that your question was over a month ago, it's likely you already had to make your decision, however, I can take a quick stab at these questions should this post prove useful to someone down the road. I also want to maintain anonymity, but if someone really wants additional help, feel free to post here and we'll figure out some wa...
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ED to Georgetown Evening Program with 2.9?  
  by: rgwen   on: September 20, at 8:44:12 pm   in: What are my chances?
Nothing to lose by giving it a shot, but still would appreciate any feedback/advice: -2.9 UG: BSEE, Electrical Engineering & BA, English from top 25 LAC (two degrees awarded different years and listed separately, but GPA was listed cumulatively) -3.4 MBA from a small school in Switzerland -3.85 MPA from top Ivy -4 years active duty military officer in competitive area -3 years reservist (still...
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Re: Anyone have inside knowledge on Big 4 compensation?  
  by: bigben439   on: September 20, at 8:31:15 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP, thank you very much for this post, have been looking for something like this for a while. I am a JD/Tax LLM student, top 20% at top 50 school. Looking for 2L summer position, looks like I struck out at OCI (like most of my peers). Really on the fence if I should put more effort into trying to find something in Big4 or midlaw, or to take whatever comes my way. I would like to be doing substanti...
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Re: Skadden Fellowship  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 8:30:41 pm   in: Legal Employment
bump
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: someonewhopassed   on: September 20, at 8:08:36 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Part A: 158
Part B: 160

Very thrilled with my performance. Message me in you need tips and tricks. I would be glad to help out anyway that I could.
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Can someone shed some light? 18% of Penn Law Incoming class identifies as LGBTQ  
  by: ModestMewtwo   on: September 20, at 8:07:13 pm   in: Under Represented Law Student Forum
It seems strange for a minority group to have such high representation at a law school. Most estimates suggest people who identify as LGBTQ are maybe 6-10% of the general population. 18% indicates overrepresentation in a strictly statistical sense. Does Penn simply receive an inordinately high number of qualified GLBT applicants? Or are they attempting to over-represent them within their student b...
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: earlgreytea   on: September 20, at 7:56:40 pm   in: Legal Employment
When previous poster says "should be at least ten spots lower" could you elaborate? the deals? clients? what is it?
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: Johnnybgoode92   on: September 20, at 7:33:12 pm   in: Law School FAQ
I'm still in the process. I'm not saying there are guarantees but it's not a guaranteed life ruiner like everyone is saying. Every school has some good outcomes. Some people get rich at the casino. That doesn't make Las Vegas a sound investment strategy. If you go to a school where 35% (Cooley) or almost 50% of graduates (Southern) haven't passed the bar two years after graduation then you're tak...
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by:   on: September 20, at 7:12:49 pm   in: Legal Employment
Man, I'm not the OP of this whole thread, but I am another 2L who's going to be summering at Latham, and I've got to say that this thread has gotten me feeling very down. I'm still excited to go to biglaw and I thought Latham would be a good place for me to be, but I never knew Latham was so hated by the TLS crowd. I get that Latham's not the most prestigious firm out there, but I don't think it'...
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Re: Kavanaugh Reports and Clerkship Placement  
  by: lavarman84   on: September 20, at 7:07:49 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Yes. Relationships make a massive difference for competitive clerkships. Obviously, you generally have to have the credentials, but outside of the credentials, they're generally the most important thing.

As for Kavanaugh, Zina Bash is quite attractive. Just saying.
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: eastcoast_iub   on: September 20, at 6:57:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
Man, I'm not the OP of this whole thread, but I am another 2L who's going to be summering at Latham, and I've got to say that this thread has gotten me feeling very down. I'm still excited to go to biglaw and I thought Latham would be a good place for me to be, but I never knew Latham was so hated by the TLS crowd. I get that Latham's not the most prestigious firm out there, but I don't think it'...
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: dabigchina   on: September 20, at 6:54:05 pm   in: Legal Employment
Man, I'm not the OP of this whole thread, but I am another 2L who's going to be summering at Latham, and I've got to say that this thread has gotten me feeling very down. I'm still excited to go to biglaw and I thought Latham would be a good place for me to be, but I never knew Latham was so hated by the TLS crowd. I get that Latham's not the most prestigious firm out there, but I don't think it'...
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New Jersey Firms  
  by: suckmysolidsnake   on: September 20, at 6:41:41 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone have any experiences with NJ firms after callbacks? How far after the callbacks do they tend to respond with rejections or offers? Only Fox Rothschild has been timely with an exact 1 week rejection. But there are some firms which I've had callbacks as far back as 5 weeks ago and have yet to receive a response.
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Re: Kavanaugh Reports and Clerkship Placement  
  by: BlackAndOrange84   on: September 20, at 6:34:08 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
If what you're asking is whether much clerkship hiring is deeply relationship driven rather than a kind of abstract ideal of a meritocratic job market, especially for top feeders, then the answer is no, there's no surprise there. I'm not even sure why you're breathlessly asking about it—this is well known. As an aside, I had to LOL at Chua allegedly saying that Kavanaugh's female clerks look like ...
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Re: Clerkship bonuses going up?  
  by: BlackAndOrange84   on: September 20, at 6:23:10 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
You'd improve your bargaining position by asking the firm to match the offer of a boutique or QE that pays more than market rather than just plain asking.
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Re: Clerkship Bonus Movement?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 6:22:55 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships

Anonymous User wrote:I've heard of many firms (not just boutiques) in NY/BOS giving closer to $70-75k for one clerkship, $80-$90k for two clerkships. While firms aren't publicizing it, it seems to be a common trend among larger firms.

Can you name any of these firms?
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Re: First Year AUSA  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 6:10:41 pm   in: Legal Employment
I’m starting as well in a major district but with biglaw experience. Any other prep advice? I’ve got a few months. The criminal handbook is like 350 dollars lol
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Kavanaugh Reports and Clerkship Placement  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 6:03:56 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Is anyone else, especially those clerking/those who have gone through the application process, surprised by the recent revelations about Rubenfeld/Chua's placement of clerks with Kavanaugh from YLS? I'm wondering if people think this kind of thing is isolated or widespread. The report seems to suggests that in some cases that application process is not only unfair and deeply screwed up, but is als...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: albanach   on: September 20, at 5:51:30 pm   in: Law School FAQ
I'm still in the process. I'm not saying there are guarantees but it's not a guaranteed life ruiner like everyone is saying. Every school has some good outcomes. Some people get rich at the casino. That doesn't make Las Vegas a sound investment strategy. If you go to a school where 35% (Cooley) or almost 50% of graduates (Southern) haven't passed the bar two years after graduation then you're tak...
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Re: Abrams & Bayliss and Ross Aronstam & Moritz  
  by: Barnabyboom   on: September 20, at 5:51:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
Final bump
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Re: Clerkship bonuses going up?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 5:41:39 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Any advice on how to get a higher than market clerkship bonus when going back to a firm? I’m starting my second clerkship (district + circuit) and have an open offer from my summer firm giving me a $70k clerkship bonus. Do I just ask for more? Or should I interview and hopefully get an offer from a firm paying above market and try to leverage that into a higher clerkship bonus with my summer firm?...
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Re: Morgan Lewis: Ok place to work?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 5:37:18 pm   in: Legal Employment
Unfortunately for those of you waiting to hear at this point, you may be stuck in a holding pattern for a bit. Most offices have probably given out offers by now, so you are probably at the whim of waiting for people to either reject an offer, or for their 28-day NALP period to expire. I had my callback 2 days ago, so I don't think that's necessarily true. But that's why I was wondering if you (i...
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Re: Morgan Lewis: Ok place to work?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 5:26:15 pm   in: Legal Employment
Unfortunately for those of you waiting to hear at this point, you may be stuck in a holding pattern for a bit. Most offices have probably given out offers by now, so you are probably at the whim of waiting for people to either reject an offer, or for their 28-day NALP period to expire. I had my callback 2 days ago, so I don't think that's necessarily true. But that's why I was wondering if you (i...
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Re: District Attorney's Office 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 5:23:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone have advice or insight on how a third round Bronx interview is with DA Clark?
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Re: Anyone know what day Winston NY hiring committee meets?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 5:12:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
What's the word on Winston NY's office corporate group? Hours anyone? I hear some first year associates work from home a few days a week. Culture seems good, as far as I've seen. I am joining as a SA next summer, but wanted to hear more.
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Re: Morgan Lewis: Ok place to work?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 5:08:06 pm   in: Legal Employment
I know nothing about their culture or practice group strengths, but unless every other aspect of the firm is shit, I feel like I'd go there just for the 2-days work-from-home allowances per week. Do you know if juniors have this option? No, you have to be with the firm for at least 2 years (so at least a 3rd year associate). Thank you! Can you (or anyone else seeing this) comment on their M&A...
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Re: NY Offers  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 4:57:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
Wave of Stroock dings. Early August CB, put on hold in late August.
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Re: Morgan Lewis: Ok place to work?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 4:45:33 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I know nothing about their culture or practice group strengths, but unless every other aspect of the firm is shit, I feel like I'd go there just for the 2-days work-from-home allowances per week.

Do you know if juniors have this option?

No, you have to be with the firm for at least 2 years (so at least a 3rd year associate).
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Re: Morgan Lewis: Ok place to work?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 4:41:02 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:I know nothing about their culture or practice group strengths, but unless every other aspect of the firm is shit, I feel like I'd go there just for the 2-days work-from-home allowances per week.

Do you know if juniors have this option?
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 4:40:35 pm   in: Legal Employment
Man, I'm not the OP of this whole thread, but I am another 2L who's going to be summering at Latham, and I've got to say that this thread has gotten me feeling very down. I'm still excited to go to biglaw and I thought Latham would be a good place for me to be, but I never knew Latham was so hated by the TLS crowd. I get that Latham's not the most prestigious firm out there, but I don't think it's...
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: valentina   on: September 20, at 4:38:19 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
App submitted mid-February and cleared first week in September. No red flags on my app at all. I received one letter mid-August asking for follow up regarding one of my jobs; I called my analyst to talk about it and she said she would clear me as soon as she received my response to her letter. She cleared me the day after she received it. I found her to be extremely personable; I called her severa...
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Re: First Year AUSA  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 4:33:09 pm   in: Legal Employment
Okay, so first, the immigration offenses aren’t very involved. They’re good experience to learn how to run a case with, frankly, relatively low stakes. Even in a border district, volume isn’t comparable to being an ADA in a major city - the vast majority of defendants still plead, so while you will get to go to trial, you won’t be going to trial as frequently as state prosecutors seem to. Second, ...
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Re: NY Offers  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 4:24:46 pm   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone received an offer/heard of offers being accepted at Moses & Singer? Or Epstein Becker & Green? I received a rejection from Epstein about 2 weeks ago. Heard their class if filled. I'm sorry to hear that! Were you applying to their healthcare or their labor & employment SA position? Labor & Employment Interesting - I applied to healthcare. Maybe they treat the two departm...
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: Wild Card   on: September 20, at 4:13:38 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Nice try Latham recruiter.

Incredibly fucking pathetic. OP should be outed for abusing anon: then we'll all see that OP is a dozen-poast sockpuppet account created by Latham's shameless recruiting department just to pump up the shitty firm on this website.
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Re: Morgan Lewis: Ok place to work?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 4:10:36 pm   in: Legal Employment
Unfortunately for those of you waiting to hear at this point, you may be stuck in a holding pattern for a bit. Most offices have probably given out offers by now, so you are probably at the whim of waiting for people to either reject an offer, or for their 28-day NALP period to expire.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=285375

Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: Cop2lawyerNYC   on: September 20, at 4:05:23 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

el madrileno wrote:Actual score 168.7. I was around 76-84% in the final two weeks of prep.

76-84% on Barbri or Adaptibar/past MBEs? Also, what percentage of these questions were questions you’ve already done?
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: OneTwoThreeFour   on: September 20, at 4:02:50 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:It's a V5 firm and only becoming more prestigious every year.



You aren't very bright are you?
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Re: C&F Traffic Violation  
  by: BarelyConcealedRage   on: September 20, at 3:56:31 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
I do mean for the bar, I apologize. This would be for the Illinois bar which I dont believe separates moving violations fron regular criminal citations. What I am confused on is if that citation is even considered a criminal citation as the court records have no documentation of the misdeamenor charge, and all that is referenced to it is that the citation was "edited".
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Re: Morgan Lewis: Ok place to work?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 3:55:20 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Bumping this: do they pay first years stub year bonuses? Considering an offer to join the NY office but some discussions in ITT make me a bit worried

sorry to take over- but wondering: did you get your offer recently? just had a CB this week and getting nervous


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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: Johnnybgoode92   on: September 20, at 3:52:31 pm   in: Law School FAQ
Meant to post: Kitchen. Please look at my old posts about my school choice. I received criticism but went ahead and it has been tough but okay. You should look at my school since I had a 138 too. Just to be clear here Johnny - you're still in school, yes? Based on posting history, Johnny is a brand new 2L. So yeah, not really qualified to opine how things worked out. Come back after the student l...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: JohnnieSockran   on: September 20, at 3:46:14 pm   in: Law School FAQ
Meant to post: Kitchen. Please look at my old posts about my school choice. I received criticism but went ahead and it has been tough but okay. You should look at my school since I had a 138 too. Just to be clear here Johnny - you're still in school, yes? Based on posting history, Johnny is a brand new 2L. So yeah, not really qualified to opine how things worked out. Come back after the student l...
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Re: LA Litigation Boutiques Where the Grass is Greener?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 3:41:32 pm   in: Legal Employment
Maybe try McKool Smith in DTLA. This might be office specific, but the hours in the Texas McKool offices are brutal. The experience is great, but the substantive work and heavy load of trials mean that your hours are going to be rough. That isn't specific to McKool. I know nothing about the LA office, but the firm-wide culture seems pretty solid. Can confirm, a partner in McKool's LA office told ...
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Re: Too many student loans and out of cash  
  by: totesTheGoat   on: September 20, at 3:35:40 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I'm sure someone else did the math, but if you average $100k over 30 years, you pay significantly less on income based repayment than actually paying back that kind of money. You'd pay back $250k total. If your goal is to move in house after 2 or 3 years, I think 30 yr repayment is always the way to go. This, of course, assumes that you want that sword of damocles hanging over your head. Personal...
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Re: LA Litigation Boutiques Where the Grass is Greener?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 3:35:16 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Maybe try McKool Smith in DTLA.
This might be office specific, but the hours in the Texas McKool offices are brutal. The experience is great, but the substantive work and heavy load of trials mean that your hours are going to be rough. That isn't specific to McKool. I know nothing about the LA office, but the firm-wide culture seems pretty solid.
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Re: First Year AUSA  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 3:34:26 pm   in: Legal Employment
No criminal experience, no trial experience, and you’re starting in a border district where you’ll see the highest volume and therefore highest likelihood of going to trial. I’m not an ausa, but that seems like a bad fit that is setting you up to struggle. OP here. Thanks for the concern. I am a bit concerned as well but ready to get into the courtroom. Do you have any recommendations on how I ca...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: Johnnybgoode92   on: September 20, at 3:25:06 pm   in: Law School FAQ
Meant to post: Kitchen. Please look at my old posts about my school choice. I received criticism but went ahead and it has been tough but okay. You should look at my school since I had a 138 too. Just to be clear here Johnny - you're still in school, yes? Based on posting history, Johnny is a brand new 2L. So yeah, not really qualified to opine how things worked out. Come back after the student l...
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Skadden Fellowship  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 3:24:55 pm   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone applied for the Skadden Fellowship for 2019-2021? Has anyone heard anything about semi-finalist interviews?
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: albanach   on: September 20, at 3:17:01 pm   in: Law School FAQ
I realize this is likely falling on deaf ears, but here's another interesting stat from the ABA re Southern University.

The class of 2015 had 214 graduates. After two years and four possible dates in which to take the bar, 109 has passed the exam.
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Re: Morgan Lewis: Ok place to work?  
  by: eastcoast_iub   on: September 20, at 3:11:59 pm   in: Legal Employment
You would love Kirkland then, where some people it seems work 4-5 days a week from home.
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: eastcoast_iub   on: September 20, at 3:10:37 pm   in: Legal Employment
I understand how the survey works, have filled it out before, but how are all these people getting the impression Latham is more prestigious than those firms? Esp. since Lathaming has become a verb, you'd think that have them moving in the opposite direction.

Their PPP is crushed by the firms I mentioned.
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: nealric   on: September 20, at 3:09:48 pm   in: Law School FAQ
Meant to post: Kitchen. Please look at my old posts about my school choice. I received criticism but went ahead and it has been tough but okay. You should look at my school since I had a 138 too. Just to be clear here Johnny - you're still in school, yes? Based on posting history, Johnny is a brand new 2L. So yeah, not really qualified to opine how things worked out. Come back after the student l...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: Johnnybgoode92   on: September 20, at 3:06:42 pm   in: Law School FAQ

albanach wrote:
Johnnybgoode92 wrote:Meant to post: Kitchen. Please look at my old posts about my school choice. I received criticism but went ahead and it has been tough but okay. You should look at my school since I had a 138 too.

Just to be clear here Johnny - you're still in school, yes?

I am. Won't say what year or part time v full time to protect anonymity.
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: albanach   on: September 20, at 2:50:25 pm   in: Law School FAQ

Johnnybgoode92 wrote:Meant to post: Kitchen. Please look at my old posts about my school choice. I received criticism but went ahead and it has been tough but okay. You should look at my school since I had a 138 too.

Just to be clear here Johnny - you're still in school, yes?
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 2:41:36 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:I see, that explains a lot. My interview experience was the exact opposite, with them indicating that while they would their best to notify people ASAP, it would likely be closer to the end of the time frame. I guess we will just have to wait and see.


Same. But they said they try to give folks at least a month in advance of their start date.
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: Johnnybgoode92   on: September 20, at 2:39:35 pm   in: Law School FAQ
It seems you don't like dissenting opinions as when presented with the information about how my I plan to pay for school it was a little unsettling What do I care about your opinions? Best of luck with all of your endeavors. To answer what I can see is the only question, as others have already answered, you won't be able to come up with a school list that is meaningful until you have an official ...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: albanach   on: September 20, at 2:39:18 pm   in: Law School FAQ
Exactly my point I don't understand why you are so concerned with my finances. Perhaps because your wrote: I'm not worried about paying for school, although some money would be nice That implies that you are not independently wealthy enough for cost not to be a consideration. People raise cost as an issue because you have a terrible GPA and a terrible LSAT and law school isn't free. Even if someo...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: Johnnybgoode92   on: September 20, at 2:37:53 pm   in: Law School FAQ
It seems you don't like dissenting opinions as when presented with the information about how my I plan to pay for school it was a little unsettling What do I care about your opinions? Best of luck with all of your endeavors. To answer what I can see is the only question, as others have already answered, you won't be able to come up with a school list that is meaningful until you have an official ...
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by:   on: September 20, at 2:33:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
Conversely, who are all these people that voted Latham over Davis Polk, STB and Kirkland in the latest Vault rankings? That is patently absurd, you'd be foolish to take Latham over any of those firms. http://www.vault.com/company-rankings/law/vault-law-100?pg=2 Have you taken the vault survey? It's literally just a long list of firms and an invitation to score each one on a 1-10 scale. Many of th...
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Re: NY Offers  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 2:32:05 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone received an offer/heard of offers being accepted at Moses & Singer? Or Epstein Becker & Green?

I received a rejection from Epstein about 2 weeks ago. Heard their class if filled.

I'm sorry to hear that! Were you applying to their healthcare or their labor & employment SA position?

Labor & Employment
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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges  
  by: carsondalywashere   on: September 20, at 2:31:52 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Anyone have outlines for Schanzenbach's BA class? I have access to multiple outline banks and can do some quid pro quo.
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San Diego Firms that hire 1st Year Associates  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 2:22:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
Does anyone have any insight or suggestions on firms in San Diego (excluding BigLaw) that hire 1st year associates right out of law school? The San Diego market seems to either be <10 attorney firms (of which information is hard to find) or small offices of BigLaw firms. I know the 4 biggest local players are (arguably) Procopio Cory Hargreaves, Seltzer Caplan, Robbins Geller and Higgs Fletcher Ma...
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Re: Morgan Lewis: Ok place to work?  
  by: hlsperson1111   on: September 20, at 2:20:00 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:I know nothing about their culture or practice group strengths, but unless every other aspect of the firm is shit, I feel like I'd go there just for the 2-days work-from-home allowances per week.

For whatever it's worth, there are many firms out there where you can work from home that often (or more) once you are established.
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Re: Morgan Lewis: Ok place to work?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 2:16:56 pm   in: Legal Employment
I know nothing about their culture or practice group strengths, but unless every other aspect of the firm is shit, I feel like I'd go there just for the 2-days work-from-home allowances per week.
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Re: Anyone know what day Winston NY hiring committee meets?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 2:14:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
my callback was more than a week ago, at this point I’m giving up hope
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Re: District Attorney's Office 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 2:09:38 pm   in: Legal Employment
I think it was about 45 minutes or so. My Brooklyn interview was closer to an hour and fifteen, I think.
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Re: Is this PS too military-heavy?  
  by: globalview2   on: September 20, at 1:57:11 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
Also applying for Army FLEP. I wouldn't say this is too military but I think you could certainly clean it up. i.e. the first stirrings of my desire is not the best phrase to state your motivation. Also the professor you mention, "a wonderful man with a gift for education" has no place in your personal statement IMO. You can mention the professor but the statement is about how great he is...
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Re: ED Northwestern?  
  by: Mencken1   on: September 20, at 1:41:48 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
Not with your stats. Sure the GPA is below median a lot of places, but you will be offered money at a number of t13s, and maybe just as much from lower t13s; at least from what I'm seeing on mylsn.
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Re: District Attorney's Office 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 1:40:21 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:I had panels at Bronx and Brooklyn this week. Both were similarly set up. General resume, why DA, why this office questions and then hypos. They were tough but fair hypos. Missing witness and impeachment type questions. Also ethical police search questions.

I had the Bronx- how long was your interview?
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: el madrileno   on: September 20, at 1:37:34 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Actual score 168.7. I was around 76-84% in the final two weeks of prep.
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Re: Motivation for clerking/what can clerks offer judges?  
  by: BlackAndOrange84   on: September 20, at 1:30:21 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Here are two important, related things beyond competence and fit: (1) willingness to push back (respectfully, and aware of your position (baby lawyer) as compared to the judge) if you think the judge is missing something or wrong; and (2) having done (1), the ability to set aside your opinion and write what your boss wants without it being colored or weakened by your own views.
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Re: C&F Traffic Violation  
  by: albanach   on: September 20, at 1:30:21 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
A few years ago, I had a family emergency and was cited with a misdeamenor speeding violation (25 over speed limit). The citation was later amended to a civil infraction that was no longer misdeamenor level and the charges were dropped. Most c and f questions ask me to exclude traffic violations. Would this be considered a traffic violation? I presume by C&F you mean for the bar, rather than ...
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Re: Too many student loans and out of cash  
  by: UBETutoring   on: September 20, at 1:23:40 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I'm sure someone else did the math, but if you average $100k over 30 years, you pay significantly less on income based repayment than actually paying back that kind of money. You'd pay back $250k total. If your goal is to move in house after 2 or 3 years, I think 30 yr repayment is always the way to go.
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: estefanchanning   on: September 20, at 1:23:40 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Correct, and I wouldn’t do it had I known what I was going to get. All you get is the number, which I later got for free 2 days later. And the NCBE will not release MBE results before the state releases them. So it’s only useful if you REALLY want to know your MBE score after results are posted but before you get the letter. And, as the other poster mentioned, only if your state allows the NCBE t...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 1:21:16 pm   in: Legal Employment
I see, that explains a lot. My interview experience was the exact opposite, with them indicating that while they would their best to notify people ASAP, it would likely be closer to the end of the time frame. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
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Re: c/o 2022 (18'-19' Cycle) TLS Applicants Thread  
  by: Gerald463   on: September 20, at 1:17:11 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Took the June LSAT, and have already submitted 4 applications. Looking forward to hearing back on decisions over the next few months. Hoping to get into one of my favorite schools. Been a while since my undergrad, so I'm hoping my professional experience helps my application look better than the 2.6 Undergrad GPA, and 151 LSAT score. Applied to Northwestern (huge longshot, I know), DePaul, John Ma...
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: legalace   on: September 20, at 1:14:28 pm   in: Legal Employment
A Latham office is a great place to start if you do not mind:
1. Having your entire class at that office not offered partnership;
2. Being shown the door after six years; and
3. Receiving no real training or practical experience.
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Re: Motivation for clerking/what can clerks offer judges?  
  by: york1614   on: September 20, at 1:12:35 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
1. What benefits do clerks provide judges? And what qualities do judges look for in seeking out clerks who can help them with their work (aside from writing skill, competence as evaluated by class performance, etc.). I'll bite with the caveat that every judge's personality is different, their use of clerks varies widely, and that I'm speaking only for the federal judiciary as some state courts ha...
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C&F Traffic Violation  
  by: BarelyConcealedRage   on: September 20, at 1:11:29 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
A few years ago, I had a family emergency and was cited with a misdeamenor speeding violation (25 over speed limit). The citation was later amended to a civil infraction that was no longer misdeamenor level and the charges were dropped.

Most c and f questions ask me to exclude traffic violations. Would this be considered a traffic violation?
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Re: District Attorney's Office 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 1:10:58 pm   in: Legal Employment
I had panels at Bronx and Brooklyn this week. Both were similarly set up. General resume, why DA, why this office questions and then hypos. They were tough but fair hypos. Missing witness and impeachment type questions. Also ethical police search questions.
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: Dcc617   on: September 20, at 1:08:53 pm   in: Law School FAQ
Okay, OP, some background on me. I originally was going to go to law school directly out of undergrad. It's what my parents wanted and it's what I told all of my friends that I was going to do. Thankfully I waited because my options weren't as good as they could have been. Instead I served in the army for about 4 years. Now I am a 3L at a T14. I finished my summer associate position at a large law...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: kitchen   on: September 20, at 1:06:10 pm   in: Law School FAQ
It seems you don't like dissenting opinions as when presented with the information about how my I plan to pay for school it was a little unsettling What do I care about your opinions? Best of luck with all of your endeavors. To answer what I can see is the only question, as others have already answered, you won't be able to come up with a school list that is meaningful until you have an official ...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: JohnnieSockran   on: September 20, at 1:00:57 pm   in: Law School FAQ
It seems you don't like dissenting opinions as when presented with the information about how my I plan to pay for school it was a little unsettling What do I care about your opinions? Best of luck with all of your endeavors. To answer what I can see is the only question, as others have already answered, you won't be able to come up with a school list that is meaningful until you have an official ...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: kitchen   on: September 20, at 12:57:05 pm   in: Law School FAQ
Can not delay graduation for a few reasons. but I won't go into that. Also the only way I would "miss" anything and would havwe to stay is if I Failed any of these classes. Anyway as mentioned I will graduate in December. That 138 score was last June? I believe so in 2017. I know my LSAT will improve I am working on that. And I don't really need money, My full law school will be paid for...
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Re: networking is pretty useless without good grades  
  by: kyle010723   on: September 20, at 12:55:56 pm   in: Legal Employment
I think there are a lot of misconceptions about "networking," and career services usually do a terrible job at explaining it. Networking is not something you do when you need something from someone, it is a life long process. It is like making friends, except professionally. Law schools often make networking look like you ask someone to coffee, then you ask them for a job. That is rarely...
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by:   on: September 20, at 12:55:20 pm   in: Legal Employment
Conversely, who are all these people that voted Latham over Davis Polk, STB and Kirkland in the latest Vault rankings? That is patently absurd, you'd be foolish to take Latham over any of those firms. http://www.vault.com/company-rankings/law/vault-law-100?pg=2 Have you taken the vault survey? It's literally just a long list of firms and an invitation to score each one on a 1-10 scale. Many of th...
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Re: networking is pretty useless without good grades  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 12:53:59 pm   in: Legal Employment
Have a 2.99 at CCN. Unsure about class standing. Rejected by v50 post CB, had my GC at summer internship (F100) reach out (company is a client), offer next day from same firm. Networking at work pays! Sent a couple of nice bottles my GCs way. 31 screeners, 3 CB. Withdrew after accepting v50. Form told me they accepted me because they were impressed that even after they said no, I wanted in. They ...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 12:52:10 pm   in: Legal Employment
I also received my rejection e-mail from USAF this morning. Not a pleasant way to start the day! While I knew this was a real possibility, I'm still pretty disappointed. But at least there's another board in November! Since they said they weren't giving individual feedback before the next board, it is unclear to me whether I should change anything in my application before resubmitting for the Nov...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: JohnnieSockran   on: September 20, at 12:51:20 pm   in: Law School FAQ
i Can not delay graduation for a few reasons. but I won't go into that. Also the only way I would "miss" anything and would havwe to stay is if I Failed any of these classes. Anyway as mentioned I will graduate in December. That 138 score was last June? I believe so in 2017. I know my LSAT will improve I am working on that. And I don't really need money, My full law school will be paid ...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 20, at 12:44:10 pm   in: Law School FAQ
You realize, of course, that winning the lottery one time does not guarantee you'll win the lottery again the next time you play. Likewise, making it through tough situations in the past doesn't mean you're somehow guaranteed to get a good outcome coming out of a T3 law school. It sounds like you think you have some kind of special luck or reality distortion field protecting you. For starters I n...
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Re: LA Litigation Boutiques Where the Grass is Greener?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 12:42:43 pm   in: Legal Employment
Maybe try McKool Smith in DTLA.
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Re: networking is pretty useless without good grades  
  by: Redrobbin2018   on: September 20, at 12:42:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
Have a 2.99 at CCN. Unsure about class standing. Rejected by v50 post CB, had my GC at summer internship (F100) reach out (company is a client), offer next day from same firm. Networking at work pays! Sent a couple of nice bottles my GCs way. 31 screeners, 3 CB. Withdrew after accepting v50. Form told me they accepted me because they were impressed that even after they said no, I wanted in. They ...
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Re: Gunderson vs. V10  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 12:39:50 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm a recent graduate starting at one of Gunderson's offices. Given that your question was over a month ago, it's likely you already had to make your decision, however, I can take a quick stab at these questions should this post prove useful to someone down the road. I also want to maintain anonymity, but if someone really wants additional help, feel free to post here and we'll figure out some way...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: kitchen   on: September 20, at 12:38:14 pm   in: Law School FAQ
i Can not delay graduation for a few reasons. but I won't go into that. Also the only way I would "miss" anything and would havwe to stay is if I Failed any of these classes. Anyway as mentioned I will graduate in December. That 138 score was last June? I believe so in 2017. I know my LSAT will improve I am working on that. And I don't really need money, My full law school will be paid ...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 20, at 12:36:26 pm   in: Law School FAQ
ummm I've had scholarships for undergrad so unless they're different it goes like this if school costs $30k and you have scholarship and whatever else many that brings is $35k all of it goes to the school, they take the $30k out and you get the $5k refund That's all well and fine, but the point I was trying to make is that you are a very unlikely candidate for a full ride scholarship at any schoo...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: JohnnieSockran   on: September 20, at 12:35:19 pm   in: Law School FAQ
i Can not delay graduation for a few reasons. but I won't go into that. Also the only way I would "miss" anything and would havwe to stay is if I Failed any of these classes. Anyway as mentioned I will graduate in December. That 138 score was last June? I believe so in 2017. I know my LSAT will improve I am working on that. And I don't really need money, My full law school will be paid ...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 12:33:45 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm unsure why people think it would be this week. They were clear in my interview that it would be the end of September or very likely early October. They said they would let people know ASAP for the October class, but I highly doubt we will hear anything until next week. Since they may be contacting references now, I asked mine to let me know if someone reaches out, but I haven't heard anything...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 12:31:44 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Hey everyone,

Any word on the results of the Air Force September DAP Board?

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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: nealric   on: September 20, at 12:26:14 pm   in: Legal Employment
Conversely, who are all these people that voted Latham over Davis Polk, STB and Kirkland in the latest Vault rankings? That is patently absurd, you'd be foolish to take Latham over any of those firms. http://www.vault.com/company-rankings/law/vault-law-100?pg=2 Have you taken the vault survey? It's literally just a long list of firms and an invitation to score each one on a 1-10 scale. Many of th...
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 20, at 12:24:44 pm   in: Legal Employment
Sure, they fired a lot of first year associates. But that was 10 years ago in one of the worst recessions ever. It's highly unlikely we will ever have a recession like that again in our lifetimes. Also, they got so much backlash that they would never do it again. Latham is actually a safer firm in this way because they will be so self-conscious in the next recession. ⋅ 2009 wasn't the f...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: nealric   on: September 20, at 12:23:14 pm   in: Law School FAQ
I have trouble reconciling the claim of a tremendous work ethic with a statement that the same person just "winged it" on the LSAT. Studying for the LSAT is probably the easiest part of the law school process. Someone scoring a cold 138 should devote a minimum of 500 hours to study. Study for the thing until you have dreams about the LSAT and can rattle off all the types logic games by ...
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: DoveBodyWash   on: September 20, at 12:21:15 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:I'm a 2L going to Latham next summer in one of the non-NY offices....

The truth is, Latham is excellent. It's a V5 firm and only becoming more prestigious every year. It is also very strong in so many practice areas...

With all that in mind, why does Latham get so much hate?
Thank you satellite office 2L for clarifying lol
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: kitchen   on: September 20, at 12:12:14 pm   in: Law School FAQ
I have trouble reconciling the claim of a tremendous work ethic with a statement that the same person just "winged it" on the LSAT. Studying for the LSAT is probably the easiest part of the law school process. Someone scoring a cold 138 should devote a minimum of 500 hours to study. Study for the thing until you have dreams about the LSAT and can rattle off all the types logic games by ...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: kitchen   on: September 20, at 12:09:07 pm   in: Law School FAQ
i Can not delay graduation for a few reasons. but I won't go into that. Also the only way I would "miss" anything and would havwe to stay is if I Failed any of these classes. Anyway as mentioned I will graduate in December. That 138 score was last June? I believe so in 2017. I know my LSAT will improve I am working on that. And I don't really need money, My full law school will be paid ...
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Re: Morgan Lewis: Ok place to work?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 12:09:07 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Bumping this: do they pay first years stub year bonuses? Considering an offer to join the NY office but some discussions in ITT make me a bit worried

sorry to take over- but wondering: did you get your offer recently? just had a CB this week and getting nervous
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Re: First Year AUSA  
  by: JakeTappers   on: September 20, at 12:08:03 pm   in: Legal Employment
No criminal experience, no trial experience, and you’re starting in a border district where you’ll see the highest volume and therefore highest likelihood of going to trial. I’m not an ausa, but that seems like a bad fit that is setting you up to struggle. So....the poster should rescind his acceptance? :lol: seems harsh. And the interviewers/USA apparently thought otherwise. I clerked in a borde...
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Re: 1st year lateral to DC  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 12:06:23 pm   in: Legal Employment
Bump. Any tips for generally lateraling as a first year, regardless of market? Use a recruiter or direct apply on your own?
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: Omerta   on: September 20, at 12:06:10 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Correct, and I wouldn’t do it had I known what I was going to get. All you get is the number, which I later got for free 2 days later. And the NCBE will not release MBE results before the state releases them. So it’s only useful if you REALLY want to know your MBE score after results are posted but before you get the letter. And, as the other poster mentioned, only if your state allows the NCBE to...
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Re: Morgan Lewis: Ok place to work?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 12:03:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
Bumping this: do they pay first years stub year bonuses? Considering an offer to join the NY office but some discussions in ITT make me a bit worried :| No stub bonuses. Fiscal year runs from October 1-September 30, so you come in right at the start of the year. Which also makes it pretty tough to make your bonus as a first year (not a huge deal because it's so small), because it can take a coupl...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 12:01:51 pm   in: Legal Employment
True, but I thought I also read that they asked for references at that time and we have already provided them this go-around. I'm not sure to be honest.
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 12:00:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm unsure why people think it would be this week. They were clear in my interview that it would be the end of September or very likely early October. They said they would let people know ASAP for the October class, but I highly doubt we will hear anything until next week. Since they may be contacting references now, I asked mine to let me know if someone reaches out, but I haven't heard anything...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: JohnnieSockran   on: September 20, at 11:58:48 am   in: Law School FAQ
I have trouble reconciling the claim of a tremendous work ethic with a statement that the same person just "winged it" on the LSAT. Studying for the LSAT is probably the easiest part of the law school process. Someone scoring a cold 138 should devote a minimum of 500 hours to study. Study for the thing until you have dreams about the LSAT and can rattle off all the types logic games by ...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 11:58:47 am   in: Legal Employment
I'm unsure why people think it would be this week. They were clear in my interview that it would be the end of September or very likely early October. They said they would let people know ASAP for the October class, but I highly doubt we will hear anything until next week. Since they may be contacting references now, I asked mine to let me know if someone reaches out, but I haven't heard anything ...
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: InterAlia1961   on: September 20, at 11:54:45 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
In previous posts, I've seen others complaining that their analyst didn't return their calls. I thought it was odd, because the first time I called, my analyst's assistant called me back the next day. Something has changed, though. I called my analyst and left a message a month ago and then again yesterday. Nothing. Silence. I'm worried that this doesn't bode well for me. So, if anyone has called,...
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: eastcoast_iub   on: September 20, at 11:51:34 am   in: Legal Employment
Conversely, who are all these people that voted Latham over Davis Polk, STB and Kirkland in the latest Vault rankings?

That is patently absurd, you'd be foolish to take Latham over any of those firms.

http://www.vault.com/company-rankings/l ... w-100?pg=2
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: JohnnieSockran   on: September 20, at 11:51:30 am   in: Law School FAQ
i Can not delay graduation for a few reasons. but I won't go into that. Also the only way I would "miss" anything and would havwe to stay is if I Failed any of these classes. Anyway as mentioned I will graduate in December. That 138 score was last June? I believe so in 2017. I know my LSAT will improve I am working on that. And I don't really need money, My full law school will be paid ...
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Re: First Year AUSA  
  by: andythefir   on: September 20, at 11:49:40 am   in: Legal Employment
No criminal experience, no trial experience, and you’re starting in a border district where you’ll see the highest volume and therefore highest likelihood of going to trial. I’m not an ausa, but that seems like a bad fit that is setting you up to struggle.
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: kitchen   on: September 20, at 11:41:28 am   in: Law School FAQ
Well I am not a fool, but I have made a few gambles. I have been put in multiple positions where people have said like you " don't do that You'll never make it" etc. And have made it through fine. You realize, of course, that winning the lottery one time does not guarantee you'll win the lottery again the next time you play. Likewise, making it through tough situations in the past doesn...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: albanach   on: September 20, at 11:40:46 am   in: Law School FAQ
Are you not reading? I don't plan to go anywhere with a 138...I am retaking the test. Meaning with a better LSAT score what schools should I look at .... The schools you should be looking at have already been highlighted. In the very first reply to your very first post. What seems incongruent here is that your stated desire is to "Help people". How is it that you plan to help people as ...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 11:36:56 am   in: Legal Employment
They said hiring would happen late September. That is net week.
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by:   on: September 20, at 11:36:16 am   in: Legal Employment
People don't dump on any particular firm. It's only when a certain poster (usually a 2L like yourself) doesn't have an accurate understanding of firms and Latham's reputation and writes a cringy, wrong post about the firm's culture and Vault rankings. I would advise against associating your own self-image with your firm. Nobody really cares. Latham is not a Wachtell, Williams & Connolly or Sus...
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by:   on: September 20, at 11:29:33 am   in: Legal Employment
Nice try Latham recruiter.
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 20, at 11:27:53 am   in: Law School FAQ
Well I am not a fool, but I have made a few gambles. I have been put in multiple positions where people have said like you " don't do that You'll never make it" etc. And have made it through fine. You realize, of course, that winning the lottery one time does not guarantee you'll win the lottery again the next time you play. Likewise, making it through tough situations in the past doesn...
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Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 11:25:53 am   in: Legal Employment
I'm a 2L going to Latham next summer in one of the non-NY offices. I've found a lot of friends and people on TLS react very negatively when I tell them this. My question is: what do people have against Latham? Sure, they fired a lot of first year associates. But that was 10 years ago in one of the worst recessions ever. It's highly unlikely we will ever have a recession like that again in our life...
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Re: networking is pretty useless without good grades  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 11:23:13 am   in: Legal Employment
Have a 2.99 at CCN. Unsure about class standing. Rejected by v50 post CB, had my GC at summer internship (F100) reach out (company is a client), offer next day from same firm. Networking at work pays! Sent a couple of nice bottles my GCs way. 31 screeners, 3 CB. Withdrew after accepting v50. Form told me they accepted me because they were impressed that even after they said no, I wanted in. They ...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: yennem   on: September 20, at 11:19:22 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
So weird.... I still didnt get my scores. I live in Tampa, everyone else I asked in Tampa recieved theres yesterday. mailman just left again with nothing from the bar examiners.

Anyone else not recieve theres?
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: al_decisis731   on: September 20, at 11:11:31 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Only select states allow the NCBEX to give MBE scores: Arizona Colorado District of Columbia Florida Georgia Kansas Maryland Montana Nebraska New Jersey New Mexico North Dakota Oregon South Carolina Utah Virgin Islands Washington Wisconsin Wyoming Florida Bar result (Themis) MBE - 149 State section - I don't know yet, but higher than 136 I think that I scored around 130 on the final practice test,...
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PS Topic Advice  
  by: philosoulphy   on: September 20, at 11:10:57 am   in: Law School Personal Statements
Hey TLS, just looking for advice on my PS topic. I'm in the brainstorming phase and am struggling with how to start it. I have a possible topic/format in mind and would appreciate advice on whether or not you think it's worth pursuing: I was thinking about starting with a narrative about my visit to the civil rights and human rights museum and within the narrative I would use the context to reflec...
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Re: District Attorney's Office 2019  
  by: DAhopeful2019   on: September 20, at 10:50:25 am   in: Legal Employment
Why is this thread so dead compared to previous years? Let's discuss so I don't lose it!!
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: Nightcrawler   on: September 20, at 10:43:04 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Florida Bar result (Themis) MBE - 149 State section - I don't know yet, but higher than 136 I think that I scored around 130 on the final practice test, but I can't remember. I used Themis for bar prep and thought it did a great job. My score distributions were really goofy. I was over 90% for CivPro, 85% for evidence, 80% for con law, and like 40-45% for contracts and real property haha. Also, m...
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Re: Morgan Lewis: Ok place to work?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 10:40:20 am   in: Legal Employment
Bumping this: do they pay first years stub year bonuses? Considering an offer to join the NY office but some discussions in ITT make me a bit worried
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 10:37:45 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Maybe tomorrow will be the day.

Good day! Is today going to be THE DAY?

Fingers crossed!
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: kitchen   on: September 20, at 10:34:02 am   in: Law School FAQ
I have trouble reconciling the claim of a tremendous work ethic with a statement that the same person just "winged it" on the LSAT. Studying for the LSAT is probably the easiest part of the law school process. Someone scoring a cold 138 should devote a minimum of 500 hours to study. Study for the thing until you have dreams about the LSAT and can rattle off all the types logic games by ...
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Re: NY Offers  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 10:33:25 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Still waiting on Hughes Hubbard - keep getting encouraging emails weekly saying that they have not come to a decision yet. Did anyone accept or deny their offer?

I will very likely be accepting their offer by next Tuesday.
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Re: Motivation for clerking/what can clerks offer judges?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 10:26:41 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
1. What benefits do clerks provide judges? And what qualities do judges look for in seeking out clerks who can help them with their work (aside from writing skill, competence as evaluated by class performance, etc.). I'll bite with the caveat that every judge's personality is different, their use of clerks varies widely, and that I'm speaking only for the federal judiciary as some state courts ha...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: nealric   on: September 20, at 10:24:16 am   in: Law School FAQ
I have trouble reconciling the claim of a tremendous work ethic with a statement that the same person just "winged it" on the LSAT. Studying for the LSAT is probably the easiest part of the law school process. Someone scoring a cold 138 should devote a minimum of 500 hours to study. Study for the thing until you have dreams about the LSAT and can rattle off all the types logic games by ...
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Re: NY Offers  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 10:18:26 am   in: Legal Employment
Still waiting on Hughes Hubbard - keep getting encouraging emails weekly saying that they have not come to a decision yet. Did anyone accept or deny their offer?
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: kitchen   on: September 20, at 10:18:04 am   in: Law School FAQ
I have trouble reconciling the claim of a tremendous work ethic with a statement that the same person just "winged it" on the LSAT. Studying for the LSAT is probably the easiest part of the law school process. Someone scoring a cold 138 should devote a minimum of 500 hours to study. Study for the thing until you have dreams about the LSAT and can rattle off all the types logic games by ...
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Re: DA office vs biglaw?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 10:17:19 am   in: Legal Employment
I would guess first that Manhattan is really unrepresentative if you're planning to work almost anywhere else and second that people like to play up how hard their job is. Certainly wasn’t attempting to “play up how hard” DANY was at all—simply responding to OP’s request for anectdotes bearing on whether hours/stress as an ADA were considerably better than biglaw by observing that, IME, ADA life ...
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Re: Jones Day Salary Raise Mechanics  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 9:58:31 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
This is dependent on which office you are in. I’m a 3rd year in a major market and my raise was $55k from second year to third year.

This is very helpful! Did you get this raise in July 2018? And are you Class of 2016? 2015? Appreciate the insight on how this works.
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Re: c/o 2022 (18'-19' Cycle) TLS Applicants Thread  
  by: Gamechanger2022   on: September 20, at 9:55:15 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
I am also submitting this round and wanted to stop in and say... Hi ! Best of luck to everyone in this process
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: nealric   on: September 20, at 9:49:14 am   in: Law School FAQ
I have trouble reconciling the claim of a tremendous work ethic with a statement that the same person just "winged it" on the LSAT. Studying for the LSAT is probably the easiest part of the law school process. Someone scoring a cold 138 should devote a minimum of 500 hours to study. Study for the thing until you have dreams about the LSAT and can rattle off all the types logic games by ...
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Re: Anyone know what day Winston NY hiring committee meets?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 9:48:42 am   in: Legal Employment
Bump
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Motivation for clerking/what can clerks offer judges?  
  by: genetics4lyfe   on: September 20, at 9:48:06 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Had a professor today ask me to do a brief write-up of my motivation for clerking, keeping in mind what students can offer judges that they clerk for. Two questions for which I'd love to have y'all's input: 1. What benefits do clerks provide judges? And what qualities do judges look for in seeking out clerks who can help them with their work (aside from writing skill, competence as evaluated by cl...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 9:48:01 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Maybe tomorrow will be the day.

Good day! Is today going to be THE DAY?
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Cornell Law Students Interested in Tutoring the LSAT - Good pay, make your own hours  
  by: UBETutoring   on: September 20, at 9:23:39 am   in: Free Help and Advice from Professionals
Any Cornell law students interested in tutoring the LSAT are welcome to PM me. 2L's and 3L's only. Must hold an LSAT score of 170+. Prior LSAT tutoring experience preferred, but willing to train the right candidate.

Pay is $50/hour, and tutors can make their own schedule. All materials and lesson plans will be provided.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: LegallyLatina   on: September 20, at 9:23:23 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi ! I didn't use themis. But I finally passed the bar this time. I did ALL of the questions in the big purple book and supplemented with barbri in the topics I hated. My suggestion is to be really good in your strong topics and good enough in your weak ones. Get all the points you can get. For me, MCQs are a real challenge, so I practiced so many questions so that I could issue spot faster and mo...
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Re: Uva Law Students Interested in LSAT Tutoring?  
  by: UBETutoring   on: September 20, at 9:21:19 am   in: Free Help and Advice from Professionals
Position has been filled.
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: kitchen   on: September 20, at 9:05:56 am   in: Law School FAQ
I have trouble reconciling the claim of a tremendous work ethic with a statement that the same person just "winged it" on the LSAT. Studying for the LSAT is probably the easiest part of the law school process. Someone scoring a cold 138 should devote a minimum of 500 hours to study. Study for the thing until you have dreams about the LSAT and can rattle off all the types logic games by ...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: kitchen   on: September 20, at 9:01:35 am   in: Law School FAQ
The phrase was “a law school worth attending.” Any ABAlaw school gives you a chance at being a lawyer. It's up to you and your work ethic. Having “a chance” at being a lawyer doesn’t necessarily make a school worth attending. What matters is how big that chance is and how much it costs. Most people aren’t going to want to spend a lot of money on, say, a 5% chance to be “a lawyer” - most are going...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: kitchen   on: September 20, at 8:50:31 am   in: Law School FAQ
This is a thread where all the lawyers and law students are telling OP that their plan is bad, while some 0Ls do the opposite. I'm not an 0L bud. He said he wants to go to school asap, he shouldn't sit out a cycle or waste his time studying the LSAT when he has the score and everything needed to go already Well then, pal, you have even less of an excuse to be giving such bad advice. You're encour...
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Re: Anyone have inside knowledge on Big 4 compensation?  
  by: nealric   on: September 20, at 8:25:59 am   in: Legal Employment
Is it possible to go from doing cap markets/finance as a junior in big law to big 4? I have a CPA license prior to law school but never practiced tax at all and never worked in public accounting either. Just wondering what kind of opportunities there are to exit to big 4 having been in big law, understanding that it is probably highly unusual for that to happen unless the big law attorney practic...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: nealric   on: September 20, at 8:18:17 am   in: Law School FAQ
I have trouble reconciling the claim of a tremendous work ethic with a statement that the same person just "winged it" on the LSAT. Studying for the LSAT is probably the easiest part of the law school process. Someone scoring a cold 138 should devote a minimum of 500 hours to study. Study for the thing until you have dreams about the LSAT and can rattle off all the types logic games by m...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: totesTheGoat   on: September 20, at 7:49:14 am   in: Law School FAQ
The phrase was “a law school worth attending.” Any ABAlaw school gives you a chance at being a lawyer. It's up to you and your work ethic. Having “a chance” at being a lawyer doesn’t necessarily make a school worth attending. What matters is how big that chance is and how much it costs. Most people aren’t going to want to spend a lot of money on, say, a 5% chance to be “a lawyer” - most are going...
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Re: DA office vs biglaw?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 7:29:07 am   in: Legal Employment
To give a slightly different (and less personal) perspective, my sister-in-law is an ADA in one of the suburban counties around Denver, moved there from one of the big-ish Denver law firms. Her job pays reasonably well (definitely better than the Miami salaries quoted above; I think around 70-80k at third year) and the lifestyle doesn't seem bad. She's early on there and definitely works hard but ...
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Re: ALL THINGS ILLINOIS BAR EXAM  
  by: KunAgnis   on: September 20, at 7:24:21 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Is next Friday the rough estimate we get our scores? The moderator said first two weeks of October, but heard that we get it earlier. I thought IL releases around the end of September (I looked at a compilation of previous release dates). God help me if I have to wait another couple of weeks. I could have sworn they said 6-8 weeks. The sooner the better. July 2016 was September 30 and July 2017 w...
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Re: USAO hiring and Schedule A  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 7:19:48 am   in: Legal Employment
Two completely anecdotal (and thus mostly useless) reactions: 1) I'm an AUSA, and I've noticed a significantly higher than average proportion of people with visible disabilities when I go to national trainings and so on than in other professional contexts (obviously can't speak to invisible disabilities), which suggests to me some kind of preference/support in hiring. 2) I've never seen an AUSA ge...
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Accommodations Advice  
  by: mjb77   on: September 20, at 7:18:58 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hello,

I am in the midst of applying for accommodations. I was wondering if anyone has requested for accommodations before, and if so how did you go about it? Also I am applying for 100% extra time. However, if I get denied, will they deny me without considering me for 50% extra time? Anyone who has been approved for accommodations, please help!
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: nixy   on: September 20, at 7:13:37 am   in: Law School FAQ
This is a thread where all the lawyers and law students are telling OP that their plan is bad, while some 0Ls do the opposite. I'm not an 0L bud. He said he wants to go to school asap, he shouldn't sit out a cycle or waste his time studying the LSAT when he has the score and everything needed to go already But he doesn't have everything needed. A 138 is a terrible score (I'm not a score snob/don'...
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Re: ALL THINGS ILLINOIS BAR EXAM  
  by: kyle010723   on: September 20, at 7:12:11 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
My year (2015) Illinois came out on October 1. Good luck y’all.
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 7:11:32 am   in: Legal Employment
I guess I wouldn't see there being any impact/change? I don't think the background check process is that directly tied to the AG - approval goes to EOUSA, I think. Admittedly I am wildly guessing, but it's not something I've ever heard anyone bring up and and not something I'd worry about.
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 6:58:31 am   in: Legal Employment
Congrats on everyone who's had offers extended thus far.

Can anyone shed any light/conjecture/wild guesses as to what would happen to candidates in the background check process if the AG gets replaced this november?

I would think that the USAO for an office gets the final say on the hiring, but could also see a hiring/background check as a possibility if a new AG takes over.
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First Year AUSA  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 6:50:32 am   in: Legal Employment
What does the day to day look like for a first year AUSA in SoCal/WDTX/NM/AZ without any prior courtroom experience? I want to know what to expect and dont have any AUSA friends, especially on this side of the country. I’m imagining a lot of immigration offenses, but how involved are these? What sorts of motions will I be filing? Any recommendations on how to prepare? I have no trial or criminal e...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: Dcc617   on: September 20, at 6:45:42 am   in: Law School FAQ
This is a thread where all the lawyers and law students are telling OP that their plan is bad, while some 0Ls do the opposite. I'm not an 0L bud. He said he wants to go to school asap, he shouldn't sit out a cycle or waste his time studying the LSAT when he has the score and everything needed to go already Well then, pal, you have even less of an excuse to be giving such bad advice. You're encour...
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Re: LA Litigation Boutiques Where the Grass is Greener?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 6:41:39 am   in: Legal Employment
I am at a boutique and I am on track for 2,600 hours and get paid less than a first year. My bonus will probably be 1/2 of market for my year. Also get yelled at and called names.

Boutiques can be hell. Unchecked yellers, sexual harassment is often rampant. There is usually 1 or 2 partners that run the place. They do whatever they want.
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USAO hiring and Schedule A  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 6:39:11 am   in: Legal Employment
Apologies for the Anon, but post history coupled with topic could potentially out me. I’m curious about USAO hiring, specifically with regards to schedule A eligible applicants. All of the job posts have the same boilerplate language re: direct or preferential hiring for qualified applicants with disabilities. Do any current or former AUSAs on here familiar with hiring practices know how Schedule ...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: Johnnybgoode92   on: September 20, at 6:29:43 am   in: Law School FAQ

Dcc617 wrote:This is a thread where all the lawyers and law students are telling OP that their plan is bad, while some 0Ls do the opposite.

I'm not an 0L bud. He said he wants to go to school asap, he shouldn't sit out a cycle or waste his time studying the LSAT when he has the score and everything needed to go already
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Re: DA office vs biglaw?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 20, at 4:57:58 am   in: Legal Employment
Another Manhattan ADA here.. The hours really aren't awful and NO WHERE near what my biglaw bros work. Unless you're on trial or on the eve of trial, you're really not in the office past 7.. ever. This is true mainly for after rookie year when you don't have institutional assignments like arraignments. First DANY responder. That was not my experience, but perhaps the culture in my TB was differen...
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Re: Low Low Low  
  by: Dcc617   on: September 20, at 3:29:53 am   in: Law School FAQ
This is a thread where all the lawyers and law students are telling OP that their plan is bad, while some 0Ls do the opposite.
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Re: ALL THINGS ILLINOIS BAR EXAM  
  by: jcwest   on: September 20, at 3:19:52 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

KunAgnis wrote:
al_decisis731 wrote:Is next Friday the rough estimate we get our scores? The moderator said first two weeks of October, but heard that we get it earlier.

I thought IL releases around the end of September (I looked at a compilation of previous release dates). God help me if I have to wait another couple of weeks.
I could have sworn they said 6-8 weeks. The sooner the better.
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Re: Changing firms after 2L summer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 19, at 11:54:44 pm   in: Legal Employment
Just saw another question that was asked of me. I did a bit of everything my 2L summer but ended up accepting an offer to join a practice group I had literally done no work in at the higher ranked firm 3L. Go figure. I just think there is a lot of luck involved in the process. Have a solid why story for the market and group, be prepared, confident, likeable, and hustle. Remember luck is when oppor...
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Re: Changing firms after 2L summer  
  by: Bubbles1012   on: September 19, at 11:40:49 pm   in: Legal Employment
Just saw these replies. My two cents, having traded up significantly last fall (v70ish to v20s). First- yes, the time line is short, but you can always accept you return offer and keep looking. Remember, you are an at-will employee, and if something went wrong on the firm’s end they would have no issues dropping you, reneging your offer, or Lathaming you. That might mean accepting your return offe...
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Re: DA office vs biglaw?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 19, at 11:12:31 pm   in: Legal Employment
Another Manhattan ADA here.. The hours really aren't awful and NO WHERE near what my biglaw bros work. Unless you're on trial or on the eve of trial, you're really not in the office past 7.. ever. This is true mainly for after rookie year when you don't have institutional assignments like arraignments. Manhattan Rookie here. My understanding seems to be that the hours aren't all that bad - its ju...
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