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Re: Prosecutor vs Biglaw, which is more prestigious?  
  by: Beatmyshorts   on: November 15, at 7:09:49 am   in: Legal Employment
Prestige means different things to different people. Your question is less like asking: “which is more prestigious, HLS or YLS?” and more like asking “which is more prestigious, HLS or HBS?” To folks interested in public service, there’s nothing more prestigious than an SDNY/DDC/EDVA AUSA gig, other than maybe high profile stuff at Main Justice. To folks who want to be at the heart of the biggest ...
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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum  
  by: Npret   on: November 15, at 6:33:16 am   in: Law School Personal Statements
Most state bars would make you disclose it, but I'm not sure talking to a c&f lawyer is that worthwhile in this situation. They're just going to tell you it's evaluated on a case by case basis. This isn't legal advice, but common sense would suggest the way you treat it is most relevant. If you have no history of conduct disorder, then it would seem insensitive and unfair for it to preclude y...
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Re: Prosecutor vs Biglaw, which is more prestigious?  
  by: Npret   on: November 15, at 6:27:54 am   in: Legal Employment
I was just curious which is regarded as carrying more prestige as well as more difficult to get: prosecutor vs high ranking biglaw firm? More specifically: AUSA (flyover or major districts like NYC, DC) vs biglaw associate in highest ranking Vault firm in big market (NYC, DC, LA, etc) Why do you care? Why is that question allowed to be anonymous? If you’re going to ask inane hypotheticals, at lea...
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Re: NY 3rd Dept - Processing Time?  
  by: Cmal123   on: November 15, at 4:15:55 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Does anyone know the correct way to indicate breaks of employment on the Law-Related Employment affidavits for the bar application?

I worked for an attorney during the summers/winter breaks throughout college and am not sure how I should tell my previous employer how to articulate this on the affidavit.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=298773

Re: New York - Third Department  
  by: Cmal123   on: November 15, at 4:13:15 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Does anyone know the correct way to indicate breaks of employment on the Law-Related Employment affidavits for the bar application?

I worked for an attorney during the summers/winter breaks throughout college and am not sure how I should tell my previous employer how to articulate this on the affidavit.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=298683

Re: NY First Dep't - how long after sending in application to get admitted?  
  by: Cmal123   on: November 15, at 4:11:54 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Does anyone know the correct way to indicate breaks of employment on the Law-Related Employment affidavits for the bar application?

I worked for an attorney during the summers/winter breaks throughout college and am not sure how I should tell my previous employer how to articulate this on the affidavit.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=298735

Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread  
  by: Cmal123   on: November 15, at 4:10:20 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Does anyone know the correct way to indicate breaks of employment on the Law-Related Employment affidavits for the bar application?

I worked for an attorney during the summers/winter breaks throughout college and am not sure how I should tell my previous employer how to articulate this on the affidavit.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=298282

Re: PD Interview  
  by: tk421991   on: November 15, at 3:09:49 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
Let’s say your client brutally tortured and murdered somebody and it’s caught on video. First, will you feel comfortable repping this scumbag to the best of your ability? What if you’re confronted with the actual statistic that recidivism for murder is whatever it is like say 15% (so if you get the guy off, there’s a 15% chance he’ll murder somebody else)? What if you learn on good authority (for...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: a male human   on: November 15, at 3:01:19 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
There's no known way to tell whether you passed or not until Friday. Yes, people have tried to correlate all sorts of stuff, like whether you can sign up for the next bar, what the admissions page says, etc. I wouldn't worry about the status page.
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Re: Is Antitrust career suicide?  
  by: El_Bee_Oh   on: November 15, at 2:45:28 am   in: Legal Employment
Is it worth doing antitrust outside of DC? Do any other secondary markets have good antitrust presence, and/or is it worth doing at a regional office of a DC-focused firm?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298604

Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)  
  by: ladybug1989   on: November 15, at 2:18:01 am   in: Legal Employment
Had a call back with a firm over a month ago, still no news... hoping they would at least get back to me before Thanksgiving... At least one day out of a week I feel this unbearable sense of despair that I will never get a legal job. Today is one of those days. Being a 3L at a T14 with nothing lined up is truly the worst. I don't look forward to my classes next semester at all, nor graduation/bar...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=192753

Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: Shirosham   on: November 15, at 1:40:25 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
A friend told me that when he had checked the Admission Status page (https://sbc.calbar.ca.gov/), the Wed/Thurs before results released, he noticed that his "Not on Motion" had changed to "On Motion." Anyone know if this might be a legit way to try and see about results? Anyone "On Motion?" If it is, I am screwed b/c mine still says "Not on Motion." Ugh! Sa...
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Re: PTO Character and Fitness Question  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 15, at 1:37:40 am   in: Legal Employment
I'm by no means a PTO C&F expert, but my understanding is that the PTO is primarily concerned with "conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, misrepresentation, or deceit." They are also very concerned (for obvious reasons) with any violation of IP laws (patent, trademark, copyright). While you must disclose your alcohol/marijuana citations (I'm assuming these were citations?), I would be...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: mellymel1122   on: November 15, at 1:37:10 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Shirosham wrote:A friend told me that when he had checked the Admission Status page (https://sbc.calbar.ca.gov/), the Wed/Thurs before results released, he noticed that his "Not on Motion" had changed to "On Motion."

Anyone know if this might be a legit way to try and see about results? Anyone "On Motion?"

If it is, I am screwed b/c mine still says "Not on Motion." Ugh!
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Re: Prosecutor vs Biglaw, which is more prestigious?  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 15, at 1:26:29 am   in: Legal Employment
I was just curious which is regarded as carrying more prestige as well as more difficult to get: prosecutor vs high ranking biglaw firm? More specifically: AUSA (flyover or major districts like NYC, DC) vs biglaw associate in highest ranking Vault firm in big market (NYC, DC, LA, etc) As the other posters ITT have asked: What specifically do you care about? Lay prestige? Prestige as a proxy for e...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: Shirosham   on: November 15, at 1:26:25 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
A friend told me that when he had checked the Admission Status page (https://sbc.calbar.ca.gov/), the Wed/Thurs before results released, he noticed that his "Not on Motion" had changed to "On Motion."

Anyone know if this might be a legit way to try and see about results? Anyone "On Motion?"
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=286381

Re: Biglaw Chances/Help  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 15, at 1:10:20 am   in: Legal Employment
Biglaw is highly unlikely with those stats. But if you want to pursue it, you need to network and mass mail like your life depends on it. I'd guess that NYC is the only market where you have a shot. You should also pursue other opportunities with equal vigor, because any job, not just biglaw, is going to be tough to get. Conventional wisdom is that if you didn't get a 2L SA, then you aren't getti...
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Re: Advice please  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 15, at 12:59:18 am   in: Legal Employment
Op here... I just lost my job tonight.... wow... what a scumbag. Holy shit. I'm so sorry. When I wrote about your supervising partner's "not our department" caveat being "weak," I did not remotely imagine that he'd turn around and lay you off within a week . That's some moxie right there. At worst, I feared you might get the news in December/January. Are you out already, or ar...
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Re: Advice please  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 15, at 12:47:53 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Op here... I just lost my job tonight.... wow... what a scumbag.

Wow. So sorry to hear. Apply for unemployment immediately and ask if you can stay on their website. Otherwise, apply anywhere and everywhere.
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Re: ED Chances, Notre Dame  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 15, at 12:47:31 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Yes, retaking is the only sensible choice here. Apply next cycle. Yes, I understand my LSAT is a little below the median, but you really think I have no shot at admission? Even with Early decision and a GPA>75th percentile? We're not saying you have no chance of getting into Notre Dame. You may very well get in to Notre Dame, but you will likely not get substantial (if any) scholarship aid. We're...
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: rcharter1978   on: November 15, at 12:07:45 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Interalia -- I wish you luck, but I can honestly say that the nanosecond I knew there was a whiff of trouble on my character application I hired the best firm I could afford, and happily paid them to respond the the information request from the bar. That went so well that I never had to deal with an informal hearing. And I consider it money well spent since I got approved maybe a week after submi...
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Re: Biglaw Chances/Help  
  by: ClubberLang   on: November 15, at 12:05:29 am   in: Legal Employment
Biglaw is highly unlikely with those stats. But if you want to pursue it, you need to network and mass mail like your life depends on it. I'd guess that NYC is the only market where you have a shot. You should also pursue other opportunities with equal vigor, because any job, not just biglaw, is going to be tough to get. Conventional wisdom is that if you didn't get a 2L SA, then you aren't gettin...
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Re: Prosecutor vs Biglaw, which is more prestigious?  
  by: BulletTooth   on: November 14, at 11:51:10 pm   in: Legal Employment
There's no right answer to this. There's a continuum prestige for Big Law (Wachtell, Williams & Connolloy, Cravath > Sidley, Latham, Gibson Dunn > DLA Piper, etc.) and the same goes for AUSA/prosecutor positions (AUSA SDNY being one of the most coveted with AUSA in fly-over districts being at the lower end of the continuum). That said, my sense is that your Big Law firms are going to have more...
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Re: any 3L interviewing with Foley Hoag and heard from them?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 11:38:07 pm   in: Legal Employment
More than a week. Did you hear back quickly?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298770

Re: PD Interview  
  by: nixy   on: November 14, at 11:25:49 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
Let’s say your client brutally tortured and murdered somebody and it’s caught on video. First, will you feel comfortable repping this scumbag to the best of your ability? What if you’re confronted with the actual statistic that recidivism for murder is whatever it is like say 15% (so if you get the guy off, there’s a 15% chance he’ll murder somebody else)? What if you learn on good authority (for...
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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions  
  by: TripTrip   on: November 14, at 11:16:38 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Pro-tip: It's hard to get a "P" in your seminar if you use it as your Option 2 paper and work with your professor on it.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=141188

Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: Rounder74   on: November 14, at 11:05:50 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Interalia -- I wish you luck, but I can honestly say that the nanosecond I knew there was a whiff of trouble on my character application I hired the best firm I could afford, and happily paid them to respond the the information request from the bar. That went so well that I never had to deal with an informal hearing. And I consider it money well spent since I got approved maybe a week after submi...
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Re: Biglaw Chances/Help  
  by: BasilHallward   on: November 14, at 11:02:25 pm   in: Legal Employment
I will echo what everyone is saying ITT. Network, network, network. But at some point you're going to have to face the music and consider other options. This title of this thread appears to invite us to gauge your "chances" at landing biglaw. Honestly, it's a long shot. A mid 2's GPA is approximately bottom 5-10% I would suspect. So, you need to keep all jobs on the table that require a ...
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Re: ED Chances, Notre Dame  
  by:   on: November 14, at 10:45:48 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum

albanach wrote:Yes, retaking is the only sensible choice here. Apply next cycle.

Yes, I understand my LSAT is a little below the median, but you really think I have no shot at admission? Even with Early decision and a GPA>75th percentile?
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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions  
  by: Pneumonia   on: November 14, at 10:33:32 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
What's a painless way to get the writing requirement fulfilled? My Ames team and I wrote the three briefs needed to get half of the Option 2 requirement checked off, but I still need one faculty-supervised paper. Any classes you'd recommend? Thanks in advance! It doesn't have to be a paper, it just has to be 15 pages from a single course or seminar (so no reading groups). Here's the language: &qu...
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Letting potential employer know about another job offer.  
  by:   on: November 14, at 10:17:08 pm   in: Legal Employment
I received a Fed Gov't internship offer for the summer after 2L and I would like to make another Fed Gov't department aware of this offer to speed up their decision. When I interviewed, they said to let them know if any deadlines or other offers come up. What is the best way to do this (phone, email)? Is it customary to let them know who my other offer is with? I'd prefer not to disclose such info...
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Re: District Attorney's Office 2019  
  by:   on: November 14, at 10:06:05 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone hear of any offers going out for Suffolk NY? I know they were making decision soon.
Any news on this?
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Re: Biglaw Chances/Help  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: November 14, at 9:10:49 pm   in: Legal Employment
So I’d start ASAP and look at firms you want to target and get a nice firm email down. Find alums from your law school and undergrad. Email 5-10 every day and get as much coffee or lunch as possible and always pay. This will take a while to yield results but one day it will and remember you only need to succeed once. Some of these people will connect you with other people. Keep a spreadsheet of al...
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Converting Canadian GPAs  
  by: Lawstudent180   on: November 14, at 9:06:11 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hi all,

I've done a bit of searching on this topic, but can't seem to find anything helpful/recent. I'm wondering how the LSAC converts undergraduate GPAs from Canadian schools to American GPAs. Any help is greatly appreciated
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Re: PD Interview  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: November 14, at 9:04:51 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
Let’s say your client brutally tortured and murdered somebody and it’s caught on video. First, will you feel comfortable repping this scumbag to the best of your ability? What if you’re confronted with the actual statistic that recidivism for murder is whatever it is like say 15% (so if you get the guy off, there’s a 15% chance he’ll murder somebody else)? What if you learn on good authority (for ...
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Re: Biglaw Chances/Help  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 8:59:03 pm   in: Legal Employment

objctnyrhnr wrote:OP can you tell us what you’ve been doing network-wise thus far?

I haven't done any networking outside of my internships. Do I just contact attorneys at firms I want to work for and ask to get coffee?
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Re: Biglaw Chances/Help  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 8:55:56 pm   in: Legal Employment
Hey guys, I am a 3L at a T15-18 and have a GPA in the mid-2's. I'm shooting for biglaw wherever I can get an opportunity. Is there anything I can do to improve my chances? I have not tried mass mailing New York yet (was planning on trying over the break). I was also thinking flyover states. Do I have any meaningful chance? Thanks (1) Mass mail as many target firms in NYC as possible (2) Follow-up...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298786

Re: Biglaw Chances/Help  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: November 14, at 8:54:35 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP can you tell us what you’ve been doing network-wise thus far?
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Re: Biglaw Chances/Help  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 8:53:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
Hey guys, I am a 3L at a T15-18 and have a GPA in the mid-2's. I'm shooting for biglaw wherever I can get an opportunity. Is there anything I can do to improve my chances? I have not tried mass mailing New York yet (was planning on trying over the break). I was also thinking flyover states. Do I have any meaningful chance? Thanks I mean, do you just want biglaw? Do you care about practice group a...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298786

Re: Prosecutor vs Biglaw, which is more prestigious?  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: November 14, at 8:53:26 pm   in: Legal Employment
Ausa in sdny is obviously the credited response.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298784

Re: Biglaw Chances/Help  
  by: acr   on: November 14, at 8:50:38 pm   in: Legal Employment
Hey guys, I am a 3L at a T15-18 and have a GPA in the mid-2's. I'm shooting for biglaw wherever I can get an opportunity. Is there anything I can do to improve my chances? I have not tried mass mailing New York yet (was planning on trying over the break). I was also thinking flyover states. Do I have any meaningful chance? Thanks (1) Mass mail as many target firms in NYC as possible (2) Follow-up...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298786

Re: Biglaw Chances/Help  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 8:49:51 pm   in: Legal Employment

objctnyrhnr wrote:Leave your gpa off your resume if you aren’t already doing that. That and network network network.

That’s all I got, though, unfortunately.

Yeah, I leave it off.

Thank you for your help.
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Re: Outside window for getting hired as ausa?  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: November 14, at 8:44:19 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP here. It’s not EDVA. Maybe a small tier below that one too.

But can you elaborate regarding why edva has that window? Is it about budget?
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Re: Biglaw Chances/Help  
  by: Lacepiece23   on: November 14, at 8:43:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
Hey guys, I am a 3L at a T15-18 and have a GPA in the mid-2's. I'm shooting for biglaw wherever I can get an opportunity. Is there anything I can do to improve my chances? I have not tried mass mailing New York yet (was planning on trying over the break). I was also thinking flyover states. Do I have any meaningful chance? Thanks I mean, do you just want biglaw? Do you care about practice group a...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298786

Re: Biglaw Chances/Help  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: November 14, at 8:42:06 pm   in: Legal Employment
Leave your gpa off your resume if you aren’t already doing that. That and network network network.

That’s all I got, though, unfortunately.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298786

Biglaw Chances/Help  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 8:38:19 pm   in: Legal Employment
Hey guys,

I am a 3L at a T15-18 and have a GPA in the mid-2's. I'm shooting for biglaw wherever I can get an opportunity. Is there anything I can do to improve my chances? I have not tried mass mailing New York yet (was planning on trying over the break). I was also thinking flyover states. Do I have any meaningful chance?

Thanks
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298786

Re: Advice please  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 8:13:20 pm   in: Legal Employment
Op here... I just lost my job tonight.... wow... what a scumbag.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298703

Re: ED Chances, Notre Dame  
  by:   on: November 14, at 8:11:37 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum

albanach wrote:Yes, retaking is the only sensible choice here. Apply next cycle.

So you’re saying I have no chance to get in with these numbers? Because I already applied in September...
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Re: Vanderbilt Class of 2022  
  by: legallyblonder   on: November 14, at 7:45:35 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Checking in! Alumni interview tomorrow via phone
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by:   on: November 14, at 7:25:59 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
FYI to ALL -

MPRE exam dates never expire for CA BAR.

Verified today w/ personal call to CAL State Bar Officials.

Buena Suerta a todos!
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 7:24:32 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone’s component code disappeared?

Mine went from Tax-Civ to just Tax, so that was weird.

Also, I'm with a friend from another law school who interviewed with EOIR and her references was contacted last week.

Same. Changed to "Tax." Wonder if this means anything
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Re: Clerking From Lower Ranked School  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 7:18:33 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Lots of good advice on here. I will just add that your best bet is if one of your instructors knows a judge well calls that judge and recommends you. I was top 15% at a law school that usualy hovers around 80-100 and EIC of a secondary journal. Landed an interview on the recommendation of a professor (who had previously clerked for the judge). I likely would have received an offer for the next ter...
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Re: George Washington C/O 2022  
  by: Reverse Dreamer   on: November 14, at 7:14:36 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists

lawschooldreaming20 wrote:
Reverse Dreamer wrote:In with $$, but still expensive. Happy to be in but hoping there will be cheaper options

When did you hear?

I heard back about two weeks ago. I applied in September though.
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Re: ED Chances, Notre Dame  
  by: zhunter28   on: November 14, at 7:09:38 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
With a 3.9 GPA, most people will encourage you to raise your LSAT score given the competitiveness of your application to many T14 schools raising your LSAT score even a few points. However, if your goal is to get accepted to Notre Dame, you are in a very good spot, especially ED, but the scholarship offer will not be extremely high. Just something to consider! Good luck
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Re: Wax Poetic or Stick to Facts?  
  by: nixy   on: November 14, at 7:03:11 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
Hey guys, Do you think an effective personal statement should focus more on impressive writing, reflection and ideas, or focus more on the substance and context of the experiences being discussed? I am finding that the lack of available space in 2-3 pages doesn’t allow for both. This is a false dichotomy. Substance/context and impressive writing etc. aren't a function of length and you don't need...
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Re: 2018-2019 Post-Clerkship Hiring  
  by: Auxilio   on: November 14, at 6:31:29 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships

cantdecide wrote:Anyone have good post-clerkship/graduate cover letter samples?

I just want to echo this, can't find a good sample (and my school doesn't give me access anymore to their bank).
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 6:31:05 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone’s component code disappeared?

Nope! Has it disappeared for you?

Yeah for OIL - DCS but I interviewed for other components as well and they have not disappeared. Just wondering if this was a general issue or if this indicated movement.
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 6:12:34 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone’s component code disappeared?

Nope! Has it disappeared for you?
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 6:11:59 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone’s component code disappeared?

Mine went from Tax-Civ to just Tax, so that was weird.

Also, I'm with a friend from another law school who interviewed with EOIR and her references was contacted last week.
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 6:09:53 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
1) Has anyone who interviewed with EOIR not had their references checked yet?

I interviewed with EOIR and another smaller component. At least one of my references was checked, but I’m not sure which component that was from.
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Re: District Attorney's Office 2019  
  by:   on: November 14, at 6:09:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
Have any of you heard back from Santa Clara County by any chance? They interviewed 50 people for "a few spots" about a month ago, and I'd love some closure.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297256

Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum  
  by: UBETutoring   on: November 14, at 6:01:52 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
Most state bars would make you disclose it, but I'm not sure talking to a c&f lawyer is that worthwhile in this situation. They're just going to tell you it's evaluated on a case by case basis. This isn't legal advice, but common sense would suggest the way you treat it is most relevant. If you have no history of conduct disorder, then it would seem insensitive and unfair for it to preclude yo...
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 5:49:38 pm   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone’s component code disappeared?
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Re: any 3L interviewing with Foley Hoag and heard from them?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 5:38:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
how long have you been waiting?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298770

Re: Wax Poetic or Stick to Facts?  
  by: TheBlueDevil   on: November 14, at 5:33:22 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
IMHO you should aim to tell a story, or maybe a few stories, that show off your (positive and distinctive aspects of) your personality. Note: do not provide your whole biography and do not simply repeat your resume in narrative form. Within that story, you should aim to write elegantly, beautifully, poignantly, but above all else, concisely (that is to say, clearly and briefly). This is a personal...
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Re: Prosecutor vs Biglaw, which is more prestigious?  
  by: nealric   on: November 14, at 5:29:07 pm   in: Legal Employment
Ask yourself why you care about prestige? To a certain extent prestige can serve an important function. The prestige of Yale, for example, opens a lot of doors. But once you are talking about the job market the value of "prestige points" is less obvious. Being an AUSA is a certain career direction that will give you certain skills and earning potential. Being in Biglaw is a different dir...
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Re: NY 3rd Dept - Processing Time?  
  by: wuwu12   on: November 14, at 5:21:04 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Mine was received on Oct 31, also no update since then. Called 3rd department, and they say the volume is huge and they cannot provide an estimate.
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Re: Prosecutor vs Biglaw, which is more prestigious?  
  by: TheProsecutor   on: November 14, at 5:11:23 pm   in: Legal Employment
Becoming a prosecutor at SDNY/EDNY/EDVA/NDIL/NDCAL is probably harder than getting an associate offer at any high ranking firm except probably Wachtell or Williams and Connolly.
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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program  
  by: chili_davis   on: November 14, at 5:05:39 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
I'm assuming applicants will hear about their results prior to the Christmas holiday? I doubt many 2L's get picked up on their first look, so I'm not holding my breath. Best of luck everyone.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=242114

Re: Prosecutor vs Biglaw, which is more prestigious?  
  by: 2013   on: November 14, at 4:58:01 pm   in: Legal Employment

Aergia wrote:Neither. Nobody is impressed by lawyers except lawyers.

This. No one is impressed by most professions, though. Maybe doctors.
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Re: MPRE/MBE Comparison  
  by:   on: November 14, at 4:57:32 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hey Joe, can you please analyze my MPRE and NY July 2018 UBE scores

MPRE 116

MBE 153.9

UBE 320
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Re: How To Best Study for the Logic Games Section?  
  by: UBETutoring   on: November 14, at 4:56:46 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Is there a resource where you can buy all the logic games? Or do you just purchase every single test? Thx! You can google logic games by type: https://www.amazon.com/LSAT-Logic-Games-Type-Analytical/dp/145372401X/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=T4XXTXYPE9CR3CZZRY4E. Ideally, you want a book that contains answer explanations, which many Cambridge materials do not. Further...
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Wax Poetic or Stick to Facts?  
  by: Nycsplitter   on: November 14, at 4:51:59 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
Hey guys,

Do you think an effective personal statement should focus more on impressive writing, reflection and ideas, or focus more on the substance and context of the experiences being discussed? I am finding that the lack of available space in 2-3 pages doesn’t allow for both.
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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum  
  by:   on: November 14, at 4:40:20 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
Hi! I was looking to see if others have written statements about Schizophrenia and came across this thread. I realize this is old and might not reach you, witorres89, but I really hope you applied at the time you wanted and wrote about what was true to you. And are on a path (maybe law) that really excites and stimulates you. I wanted to write you a private message but am too new of a user to acce...
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Re: Prosecutor vs Biglaw, which is more prestigious?  
  by: Aergia   on: November 14, at 4:38:48 pm   in: Legal Employment
Neither. Nobody is impressed by lawyers except lawyers.
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 4:36:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
Us OCIJ EOIR people are an impatient bunch haha
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Prosecutor vs Biglaw, which is more prestigious?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 4:22:57 pm   in: Legal Employment
I was just curious which is regarded as carrying more prestige as well as more difficult to get: prosecutor vs high ranking biglaw firm?

More specifically:

AUSA (flyover or major districts like NYC, DC) vs biglaw associate in highest ranking Vault firm in big market (NYC, DC, LA, etc)
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Re: ED Chances, Notre Dame  
  by: albanach   on: November 14, at 4:13:19 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Yes, retaking is the only sensible choice here. Apply next cycle.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=298775

Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: rcharter1978   on: November 14, at 4:12:34 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Interalia -- I wish you luck, but I can honestly say that the nanosecond I knew there was a whiff of trouble on my character application I hired the best firm I could afford, and happily paid them to respond the the information request from the bar. That went so well that I never had to deal with an informal hearing. And I consider it money well spent since I got approved maybe a week after submit...
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Re: GWU ED Scholly?  
  by: albanach   on: November 14, at 4:12:08 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
Need some advice-- I am considering PT Evening Programs in MD/DC. For a bunch of reasons I think GW is my best fit. They have a Binding Presidential Merit Scholarship (Full Tuition), but the BINDING part creeps me out. (A) possible nightmare scenario is that I am accepted under the program and I am committed to GW but GT offers me decent $ too. I'm keeping my job so COA is only tuition/fees/books...
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 4:06:37 pm   in: Legal Employment
Had a call back with a firm over a month ago, still no news... hoping they would at least get back to me before Thanksgiving... At least one day out of a week I feel this unbearable sense of despair that I will never get a legal job. Today is one of those days. Being a 3L at a T14 with nothing lined up is truly the worst. I don't look forward to my classes next semester at all, nor graduation/bar...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=192753

Re: Advice please  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 4:02:45 pm   in: Legal Employment
You got a heads up from a guy who thinks his department will be okay. Chill out and do good work instead of looking like a deer in the headlights interviewing/applying for every job in the state; basically means you're one step out the door and guarantees you'll be fired if there is firing. This is bad advice. OP wrote, "my supervising partner said there are no guarantees about the future an...
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: InterAlia1961   on: November 14, at 3:50:19 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hello all. Recovering nicely. Rescheduled the informal conference to tomorrow morning. I'm wondering if anyone knows why some people get sent to the meeting in Los Angeles and some get sent to San Francisco? I'll let you know how it goes.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278929

Re: ED Chances, Notre Dame  
  by: Wubbles   on: November 14, at 3:39:57 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Retake.
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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions  
  by: Lolstudent   on: November 14, at 3:32:15 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
What's a painless way to get the writing requirement fulfilled? My Ames team and I wrote the three briefs needed to get half of the Option 2 requirement checked off, but I still need one faculty-supervised paper. Any classes you'd recommend? Thanks in advance!
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GWU ED Scholly?  
  by:   on: November 14, at 3:01:14 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
Need some advice-- I am considering PT Evening Programs in MD/DC. For a bunch of reasons I think GW is my best fit. They have a Binding Presidential Merit Scholarship (Full Tuition), but the BINDING part creeps me out. (A) possible nightmare scenario is that I am accepted under the program and I am committed to GW but GT offers me decent $ too. I'm keeping my job so COA is only tuition/fees/books ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=298783

Re: How To Best Study for the Logic Games Section?  
  by: taylorharris24   on: November 14, at 2:48:38 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Is there a resource where you can buy all the logic games? Or do you just purchase every single test?

Thx!
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=298144

Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 2:36:46 pm   in: Legal Employment
Two questions: 1) Has anyone who interviewed with EOIR not had their references checked yet? 2) Does anyone understand why the default sorting for this page is ascending instead of descending/know how to change it so I don't have to scroll to the bottom and change it every time? Nothing here -- Tax-Civ and DEA Re: 2 - You can change the sorting yourself at the bottom of the page where it gives yo...
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Berkeley c/o 2022  
  by: kamik01   on: November 14, at 2:29:10 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Applied 09/24
Status checker 09/25
Email application under review 10/01
Got admitted via email 11/14
No other communication
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 2:18:12 pm   in: Legal Employment
Had a call back with a firm over a month ago, still no news... hoping they would at least get back to me before Thanksgiving... At least one day out of a week I feel this unbearable sense of despair that I will never get a legal job. Today is one of those days. Being a 3L at a T14 with nothing lined up is truly the worst. I don't look forward to my classes next semester at all, nor graduation/bar ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=192753

Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 2:13:23 pm   in: Legal Employment
Two questions: 1) Has anyone who interviewed with EOIR not had their references checked yet? 2) Does anyone understand why the default sorting for this page is ascending instead of descending/know how to change it so I don't have to scroll to the bottom and change it every time? Nothing here -- Tax-Civ and DEA Re: 2 - You can change the sorting yourself at the bottom of the page where it gives yo...
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 2:02:03 pm   in: Legal Employment
Two questions: 1) Has anyone who interviewed with EOIR not had their references checked yet? 2) Does anyone understand why the default sorting for this page is ascending instead of descending/know how to change it so I don't have to scroll to the bottom and change it every time? Nothing here -- Tax-Civ and DEA Re: 2 - You can change the sorting yourself at the bottom of the page where it gives yo...
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 2:00:25 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Two questions:

1) Has anyone who interviewed with EOIR not had their references checked yet?

2) Does anyone understand why the default sorting for this page is ascending instead of descending/know how to change it so I don't have to scroll to the bottom and change it every time?

both excellent questions
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by:   on: November 14, at 1:54:23 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Any updates for anyone today?

Nope! anyone heard about OCIJ?
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 1:53:01 pm   in: Legal Employment
Two questions:

1) Has anyone who interviewed with EOIR not had their references checked yet?

2) Does anyone understand why the default sorting for this page is ascending instead of descending/know how to change it so I don't have to scroll to the bottom and change it every time?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=288597

Re: 2019 February California Bar  
  by: a male human   on: November 14, at 1:52:40 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
You're welcome! This thread gave me an opportunity to go through this list and reorganize, prune, and consolidate everything going into 2019.

BTW, the links to the PT guide aren't working because TLS automatically changes Google short links. Here's the full link instead https://www.dropbox.com/s/95q0aivag99b7 ... 6.pdf?dl=0
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 1:47:12 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Any updates for anyone today?

Nothing here. Waiting on CRM and AFMLS.

Also waiting on AFMLS. Any word regarding reference checks on your end?
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 1:46:24 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Any updates for anyone today?

Dying to hear from OCIJ
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Re: 2019 February California Bar  
  by: Happy88   on: November 14, at 1:45:01 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
A male human, you’re a star! I can’t thank you enough for this valuable info!
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 1:42:33 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Any updates for anyone today?

Nothing here. Waiting on CRM and AFMLS.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=288597

Re: Honors Programs 2018-2019 (Non-DOJ)  
  by: JohnnyKarate_   on: November 14, at 1:13:23 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone hear anything from DHS?

Crickets. They intended to contact people for callbacks in mid-October.
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Re: Honors Programs 2018-2019 (Non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 1:11:28 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Stre$$ed3L wrote:Any update on FDIC hiring?

Received a ding letter in the mail yesterday.

No news. No references checked.
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PTO Character and Fitness Question  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 1:05:23 pm   in: Legal Employment
I am a little worried about the character and fitness portion of the PTO registration examination. In college, I received a few write-ups for alcohol and marijuana use (these occurred 7 years ago), and I got one open container for alcohol about 5 years ago. I have had no issues since then, but I am scared that my registration will be denied for failing C&F. Does anyone have any idea what will ...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: mathandthelaw   on: November 14, at 12:55:18 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I've gotten to the point where I'm like: I know I missed some issues. I know I got a few analyses wrong. I know I messed up a few rule statements. I didn't have time to write a conclusion for my PT, although I think I did include enough substantive content. For the multiple choice, I felt like I was more focused on solving the problem. The MBE required knowing what rule was being tested, but also ...
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 12:47:42 pm   in: Legal Employment
Any updates for anyone today?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=288597

Re: Advice please  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 14, at 12:42:37 pm   in: Legal Employment
You got a heads up from a guy who thinks his department will be okay. Chill out and do good work instead of looking like a deer in the headlights interviewing/applying for every job in the state; basically means you're one step out the door and guarantees you'll be fired if there is firing. This is bad advice. OP wrote, "my supervising partner said there are no guarantees about the future an...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: a male human   on: November 14, at 12:35:25 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

JohnnieSockran wrote:Just my $0.02, but at this point with results 2 days away it seems fruitless to think about your answers and how you might've done. Just try to get some mental headspace, relax and take your mind off of this exam until Friday night.
I agree in principle, but it's easier said than done in these last couple weeks for the poor souls who had to wait almost 4 months for their results
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: JohnnieSockran   on: November 14, at 12:10:23 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Just my $0.02, but at this point with results 2 days away it seems fruitless to think about your answers and how you might've done. Just try to get some mental headspace, relax and take your mind off of this exam until Friday night.
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Re: Honors Programs 2018-2019 (Non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 12:09:12 pm   in: Legal Employment
Had my HUD interview today with a regional office. Was also told it was an interview for HQ too (I listed this regional office and HQ as my preferences)

Timeline for decisions is mid to late December
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297732

Re: Outside window for getting hired as ausa?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 12:07:54 pm   in: Legal Employment
I assume you’re not applying to EDVA, but I know their hiring window is 3-5 years out of law school. After that, you are at a serious disadvantage.
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Re: Taking a huge risk with PS  
  by: UBETutoring   on: November 14, at 12:01:09 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
I would suggest you don't do this. You don't really want to present any negative information that you don't have to, and the PS is a time to show some personality and your personality isn't defined by your weaknesses. If you need to disclose the addiction because of a record, you can present it in an uplifting light in your addendum. If you don't need to, it's a bad move because the C&F commi...
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Re: Outside window for getting hired as ausa?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 11:45:26 am   in: Legal Employment
(Current AUSA so posting anon.) I have known people to get hired with a whole range of experience levels. The problem with getting hired later is that the more senior you are, the more expensive you are. So I think to the extent there’s a sweet spot, it’s having enough experience to be able to do the job with limited training/oversight, without having so much experience that you cost a lot. Where ...
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Re: 2018 Dallas Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 11:43:06 am   in: Legal Employment
Thoughts on culture and quality of work at Kirkland Dallas? I know they are new to the market. Is most of the work originated in Houston, or are they servicing Dallas clients as well? I looked into Kirkland Dallas a couple of months ago - happy to give you my thoughts though they may be a out of date. If you are interested in energy work, I think it is a compelling proposition. Their Houston offi...
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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications  
  by: crownjd   on: November 14, at 11:41:23 am   in: Legal Employment

Nicartos wrote:I received an offer from Colorado this past Friday (11/2), although I didn't interview through EJW.

We got offers the same day. PM me and let me know what you're thinking.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=171348

Re: Honors Programs 2018-2019 (Non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 11:36:09 am   in: Legal Employment

Stre$$ed3L wrote:Any update on FDIC hiring?

Received a ding letter in the mail yesterday.
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Re: BU Law C/O 22 applicants ('18-'19 cycle)  
  by: mjstewart1224   on: November 14, at 11:28:51 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
I believe last year they began releasing RD decisions in December, but I'm assuming most decisions won't be released until January and after.
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: MBernard   on: November 14, at 11:07:27 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Prediction: Time to hit the books! Just posting here as a timestamped reference for when I actually get my results back. And see if I predicted right. Any one got advice on how to prep for FEB 2019? Is it just the same, but more practice? Good luck on Friday results! I know I'll need it. :) I missed the writing requirement for adequated assurances in contacts. I must've gotten a 0. Lmao, I detect...
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Some Notes on Principle Questions from an LSAT tutor and practicing attorney  
  by: UBETutoring   on: November 14, at 10:57:41 am   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
"Principle" questions have become increasingly common in recent years. I put "principle" in parenthesis because although many test-takers and test prep companies treat principle questions as a unique question type, they are really three different questions that are themselves each sub-categories of three other question types. This is to say that unlike assumption or weaken ques...
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Outside window for getting hired as ausa?  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: November 14, at 10:54:30 am   in: Legal Employment
I’m going to try not to provide so much info that I might be identifiable, but enough that my question can be answered: I have worked a couple jobs already on the path to ausa and I’m currently a mid level biglaw lit associate with a split between civil lit and investigations. Suffice it to say that I’m not in a huge rush to get out, as I am saving a good amount of money, and I am fairly highly re...
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Mind chancing me?  
  by:   on: November 14, at 10:49:11 am   in: What are my chances?
Hey folks, With my applications sent and no interviews pending at the moment, I’m writing this message in an honest attempt to curb my anxiety. Cutting to the chase, I’m applying with a 171 LSAT, 3.93 GPA from an Ivy League undergrad. I’ll have been out of school for two years by the time I begin law school. In the interim, I’ve been working as a quantitative analyst at a small firm in DC. I’ve do...
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Re: Firm group w/no junior associates means what  
  by: jhett   on: November 14, at 10:16:13 am   in: Legal Employment
For WH specifically, juniors start out in the general IP group, which encompasses prosecution, litigation, and transactions. As they get more senior, they pick which sub-specialty of IP they want to practice.
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: estefanchanning   on: November 14, at 10:05:46 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Prediction: K: Hit all issues but a bit messy. The back and forth between arguments for and against repudiation and the timeline of it was messy. Could have been much cleaner. CE: Hit all issues. PR: Might have missed the biggest issue: the potential conflict of representing co-defendants in a criminal case. Not sure anymore. I definitely talked about conflict of interest. But if it wasn't about ...
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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program  
  by: Elle in Combat Boots   on: November 14, at 10:01:16 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
For the curious, board meets this week.
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Re: Denver Law c/o 2022  
  by: stanbeeman   on: November 14, at 9:36:28 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
According to LSN first decisions were out 11/21 in 2017. I am still complete per the status checker. Maybe it just goes from complete to decision?
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Re: Uga Law c/o 2022 Applicants (2018-2019)  
  by: stanbeeman   on: November 14, at 9:34:48 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
UR since 10/31
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Re: Boston College C/O 2022 ('18-'19 Cycle)  
  by: stanbeeman   on: November 14, at 9:33:32 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Also UR 11/13
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Re: George Washington C/O 2022  
  by: stanbeeman   on: November 14, at 9:24:12 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
UR since 10/03. No decision on 10/31 so I feel a wait list coming on... not stoked because WL=sticker.
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Re: Colorado Law c/o 2022  
  by: stanbeeman   on: November 14, at 9:21:44 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Rejected via e-mail on 11/08. Very confused because I was waitlisted in a previous cycle with a much lower LSAT. I know they have had a huge spike in applications so maybe it is just more competitive this cycle and they are trying to climb the rankings. My LSAT was competitive but my GPA was not. Oh well.
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Re: Military Law  
  by: wrangler9   on: November 14, at 9:13:59 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
wrangler9 wrote:Heading to the Army January class. Anyone have a general idea of how initial assignments work? I imagine we will be getting slotted pretty soon and was just curious what the chances are that the assignment location will change when we are in school? Thanks

Did you get a list of locations?


No I haven’t. Has anyone else?
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 9:06:24 am   in: Legal Employment

wrangler9 wrote:Heading to the Army January class. Anyone have a general idea of how initial assignments work? I imagine we will be getting slotted pretty soon and was just curious what the chances are that the assignment location will change when we are in school? Thanks

Did you get a list of locations?
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: cherrytee   on: November 14, at 8:28:37 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Prediction: K: Hit all issues but a bit messy. The back and forth between arguments for and against repudiation and the timeline of it was messy. Could have been much cleaner. CE: Hit all issues. PR: Might have missed the biggest issue: the potential conflict of representing co-defendants in a criminal case. Not sure anymore. I definitely talked about conflict of interest. But if it wasn't about L...
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Re: Student loan payments: get advice and actual numbers here  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 7:34:32 am   in: Legal Employment
Combined household income: 230k
Wife and I both paying down our loans but at the same time maxing 401k up to match, maxing HSA, and saving for a down payment on a house. Our EF is also in place in a high yield savings account. It will probably take us around 5-8 years to completely pay off our student loans.
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Re: Advice please  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 7:03:36 am   in: Legal Employment
You got a heads up from a guy who thinks his department will be okay. Chill out and do good work instead of looking like a deer in the headlights interviewing/applying for every job in the state; basically means you're one step out the door and guarantees you'll be fired if there is firing. Are you actually willing to move anywhere in the state, just so you can say "you can't fire me I quit&...
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Re: Advice please  
  by: malibustacy   on: November 14, at 4:07:06 am   in: Legal Employment
You got a heads up from a guy who thinks his department will be okay. Chill out and do good work instead of looking like a deer in the headlights interviewing/applying for every job in the state; basically means you're one step out the door and guarantees you'll be fired if there is firing. Are you actually willing to move anywhere in the state, just so you can say "you can't fire me I quit&q...
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Any recommendation for ps service?  
  by:   on: November 14, at 3:53:31 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hi, everyone. I am a foreign law students applying for LLM program in the states right now, and I just finished writing my first draft of personal statement. Even though I got full scores on my TOEFL writing section, but my essay still looks likt it was written by a 5-year-old. So I am in desperate need for a native speaker to have a look at my personal statement to polish its lanugange, to check ...
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ED Chances, Notre Dame  
  by:   on: November 14, at 3:19:56 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I applied ED at Notre Dame, my lsat was 162 and a GPA of 3.9. Non-URM, Top Public Undergrad. Can anyone tell me what they think my chances are?
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: Get-it-done   on: November 14, at 3:12:26 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Does anyone know how long after the 16th before we can get sworn in? I'm not in California so just going to do it with my Judge, but Dad is visiting for a bit and would love to do it while he's here if possible. C&F etc. all cleared. This all assumes we pass of course. You can get sworn in right away. Law schools swear in students during the month of December simply so they don’t have to pay ...
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Re: 2019 February California Bar  
  by:   on: November 14, at 3:07:29 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Thank you so much for your detailed post a male human! Justanotheruesr, congrats on passing the most difficult bar exam in the country!! I would love to hear more about your experiences :) If anyone out there is curious, I reached out to both Barbri and Themis. Barbri has stated that they have incorporated the new Rules of Professional Conduct into their Feb 2019 material through supplemental mate...
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Re: 2019 February California Bar  
  by: justanotheruser   on: November 14, at 1:43:04 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Might make a lengthy/detailed post about my experiences, but for now I wanted to mention that I failed the exam over and over again. Finally passed on my sixth try.

Don't give up. But be real about changes you need to make in studying. And whatever plan you make, commit to it.
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Re: 2019 February California Bar  
  by: a male human   on: November 13, at 11:58:15 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Thanks for starting the thread! As usual, I'll drop in some helpful info collected over the years. Wondering where to start? I've been hanging around these TLS bar threads since 2013 and have seen the most effective tools that helped people pass the California bar. Feel free to ask if you have questions about preparing for the CA bar. RECOMMENDED RESOURCES These resources seem helpful to CA bar ta...
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NY 3rd Dept - Processing Time?  
  by:   on: November 13, at 11:24:52 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Got an e-mail confirming receipt of my application the day it was delivered to them (Oct 29), but haven't heard anything since. Does anyone have any idea how long it takes to get an e-mail with a call ceremony date? Has anyone received an e-mail with a call ceremony date yet?
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Re: 2.7gpa, 174 lsat chances  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 13, at 10:58:08 pm   in: What are my chances?
Your cycle will be all over the place. I would strongly encourage submitting applications as early as possible. You need to blanket everywhere from about NYU down to George Washington (giving due consideration to geographic reach of the lower schools and whether you'd be able to secure employment). It's entirely possible that you'll get a bite in the T-14 but it will almost certainly be at sticke...
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Re: Firm group w/no junior associates means what  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 13, at 10:50:24 pm   in: Legal Employment
Also, it's very unlikely this is the case for IP lit at Wilmer, but many firms will have small, niche practice areas that only list partners or counsel. These are usually areas where there isn't a lot of regular work, so don't require any associates specifically assigned to the practice, but the firm still wants to highlight/advertise their capabilities in the niche.
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Re: NY First Dep't - how long after sending in application to get admitted?  
  by: nkr   on: November 13, at 10:32:23 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Mine was received 11/8 and I got a 1/29 interview and a 2/4 ceremony date (both contingent on supporting docs, etc.).

So get yours in and it should be fine, I hope.
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Re: Advice please  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 13, at 10:29:56 pm   in: Legal Employment
Sorry to hear this. At least your supervising partner gave you a heads-up. Not much you can do at this point aside from continuing to apply & work your network. If you do get The Talk before you land an offer elsewhere, negotiate for more time on the firm website. Best wishes! Thanks. He claims our department should be ok... but I honestly do not trust him. I am trying to network and intervie...
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Re: PSA: Do not pay full price for a bar course - Negotiate w/Barbri, Themis, etc. Instead  
  by: pvnyc   on: November 13, at 10:24:26 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi, if any one is interested in barbri books, please PM me (I have supplements too).
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Re: Are 65% of my MBE practice questions useless?  
  by: anon sequitur   on: November 13, at 10:02:26 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
They're definitely not useless. Lots of people pass using those questions. I'm sure there are some that aren't as reflective of current MBE style, but I don't really trust that Barbri questions are really much better. I passed focusing almost all my effort on MBE practice, using the same bank of questions you're using, and so have lots of people.
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Re: 2018 Dallas Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 9:58:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
Thoughts on culture and quality of work at Kirkland Dallas? I know they are new to the market. Is most of the work originated in Houston, or are they servicing Dallas clients as well? I looked into Kirkland Dallas a couple of months ago - happy to give you my thoughts though they may be a out of date. If you are interested in energy work, I think it is a compelling proposition. Their Houston offi...
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Re: Honors Programs 2018-2019 (Non-DOJ)  
  by: Stre$$ed3L   on: November 13, at 9:46:58 pm   in: Legal Employment
Any update on FDIC hiring?
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 9:43:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
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Re: BONUS 2018 discussion  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 9:22:16 pm   in: Legal Employment
Usually the first Monday after Thanksgiving. I’m going to keep the hope alive. STB will raise.
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Re: Columbia c/o 2022 Applicants Thread (2018-2019)  
  by: inthetrenches21   on: November 13, at 9:18:41 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
What is an International Superior Classification? Students who don't attend an American Undergraduate institution send their transcripts to be evaluated by LSAC, where we receive a rating from Below Average to Superior. This classification isn't reportable for Median purposes, but rather indicates the student's ability relative to their classmates. I'm worried about Columbia dinging international...
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Re: Columbia c/o 2022 Applicants Thread (2018-2019)  
  by: CLS2020   on: November 13, at 8:56:35 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
How much of an advantage do you get if you apply early decision?
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Re: 2018 Dallas Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 8:23:19 pm   in: Legal Employment
Is it just me or are the Chambers rankings very off-the-mark when it comes to Texas? For corporate/M&A, Kirkland is at Band 3, way below Baker Botts (at Band 1). Everyone knows Kirkland and V&E rule Houston/Texas M&A. Baker Botts is struggling, at least in Houston. Even Latham lost their biggest partner to Kirkland recently. And Sidley is way down at Band 5 along with Foley Gardere. F...
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Re: Taking a huge risk with PS  
  by: Npret   on: November 13, at 7:53:50 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
I would suggest you don't do this. You don't really want to present any negative information that you don't have to, and the PS is a time to show some personality and your personality isn't defined by your weaknesses. If you need to disclose the addiction because of a record, you can present it in an uplifting light in your addendum. If you don't need to, it's a bad move because the C&F commi...
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Re: Marino Bar Review  
  by: CaYLaw   on: November 13, at 7:37:02 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can anyone speak more in detail about the Marino Bar Review Retaker Course? Considering making the purchase, but there has been sparse feedback of the course itself. Before I bought the course I sent my scores to them-- I think I did it through their website. I talked to their director of bar review, who gave me a lot of advice on what I could do next to be succesful on the exam. The conversation...
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 7:36:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
References checked no change in status yet though BIA
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Re: Advice please  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 7:26:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
Sorry to hear this. At least your supervising partner gave you a heads-up. Not much you can do at this point aside from continuing to apply & work your network. If you do get The Talk before you land an offer elsewhere, negotiate for more time on the firm website. Best wishes! Thanks. He claims our department should be ok... but I honestly do not trust him. I am trying to network and intervie...
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 7:23:31 pm   in: Legal Employment
The struggle is still very real out there. I am trying to move out of a smaller firm into a bigger one. Hoping to land something soon...
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Re: Is it possible to clerk after 3-4 years as an ADA?  
  by: RedPurpleBlue   on: November 13, at 6:53:26 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Yes, it is possible, but this all depends on the usual suspects: (1) how good are your law school grades (2) how good is the law school you came from both generally and in your area (3) how competitive/prestigious and well known is the DA to the court you are applying to (4) what type of court are you applying to (you're going to have a lot of varying success from state trial courts, SCOTUS, and e...
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Re: 2018 Dallas Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 6:46:15 pm   in: Legal Employment
Is it just me or are the Chambers rankings very off-the-mark when it comes to Texas? For corporate/M&A, Kirkland is at Band 3, way below Baker Botts (at Band 1). Everyone knows Kirkland and V&E rule Houston/Texas M&A. Baker Botts is struggling, at least in Houston. Even Latham lost their biggest partner to Kirkland recently. And Sidley is way down at Band 5 along with Foley Gardere. F...
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Re: BONUS 2018 discussion  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 6:43:23 pm   in: Legal Employment
Cravath typically announces next week?
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: kiadak231   on: November 13, at 6:39:05 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Anyone else pass the FL Bar last month and still waiting on character & fitness clearance? FL: 135 MBE: 161 Barbri, Adaptibar, and Em S&T (and Critical Pass from time to time) I am :( I don't know what your post-bar letter from the BOBE said, but mine confirmed that I didn't have anything outstanding at that point and that my application would be given priority. However, it stated that th...
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Re: 2018 Dallas Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 6:23:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
Thoughts on culture and quality of work at Kirkland Dallas? I know they are new to the market. Is most of the work originated in Houston, or are they servicing Dallas clients as well? I looked into Kirkland Dallas a couple of months ago - happy to give you my thoughts though they may be a out of date. If you are interested in energy work, I think it is a compelling proposition. Their Houston offi...
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USC Gould Applicants 2018-2019  
  by: nzlawapp2018   on: November 13, at 6:13:05 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
USC Gould School of Law applicant thread

http://weblaw.usc.edu/about/class-profile/

25% GPA: 3.61
Median GPA: 3.78
75% GPA: 3.88

25% LSAT: 163
Median LSAT: 166
75% LSAT: 167

Employment Statists

http://gould.usc.edu/careers/students/statistics/
http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/usc/2014/
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Re: Attorney v associate  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 6:07:10 pm   in: Legal Employment
Varies a tremendous amount between firms. At my firm, "attorneys" tend to be relatively senior people who are too valuable to some partner(s) to let go but are unwilling to bill enough to be an associate or of counsel. I became an "attorney" basically by threatening to quit; moving back to partnership track would just be a matter of asking. From my perspective, the new gig is i...
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Re: 2018 Dallas Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 6:00:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
Is it just me or are the Chambers rankings very off-the-mark when it comes to Texas? For corporate/M&A, Kirkland is at Band 3, way below Baker Botts (at Band 1). Everyone knows Kirkland and V&E rule Houston/Texas M&A. Baker Botts is struggling, at least in Houston. Even Latham lost their biggest partner to Kirkland recently. And Sidley is way down at Band 5 along with Foley Gardere. F...
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Re: 2018 Dallas Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 5:26:31 pm   in: Legal Employment
Thoughts on culture and quality of work at Kirkland Dallas? I know they are new to the market. Is most of the work originated in Houston, or are they servicing Dallas clients as well? I looked into Kirkland Dallas a couple of months ago - happy to give you my thoughts though they may be a out of date. If you are interested in energy work, I think it is a compelling proposition. Their Houston offi...
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Re: University of Texas c/o 2022 ('18-'19 Cycle)  
  by:   on: November 13, at 5:18:11 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists

vincit qui patitur wrote:
CDLee wrote:
vincit qui patitur wrote:
TheRealHarveySpecter wrote:Anyone received interview invites yet?
I received and completed my interview at the end of last week. Basically twiddling my thumbs at this point. Anyone else?

Finished mine today, and not feeling confident about it..yikes..

yeah it is not the most natural exercise. oddly i found the written part the most strange aspect of it all.

Also, are y'all OOS?
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Re: TN Visa for Clerkship (Canadian)  
  by: Auxilio   on: November 13, at 5:05:59 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I PM'd you the letter I used this summer for my SSC clerkship. But I would just emphasize that while I agree with NoLongerALurker that it's better to do a preclearence center (there are also ones at Vancouver and Montreal, not just Pearson), there are a few locations listed on the CBS site that they say are well handled for TN, some of which are in the US. Also, make sure the letter is on letterhe...
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Re: KPMG Screener Turnaround Time/Process  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 4:53:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
Update: Rejection from Oct 11 WNT M&A screener.
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Re: Columbia c/o 2022 Applicants Thread (2018-2019)  
  by: CLS2020   on: November 13, at 4:43:45 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
What is an International Superior Classification?
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Re: 1L SA Process/Tips  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 4:07:25 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'd suggest looking at Houston. They hire a large # of 1L SAs and aren't so picky about ties as long as you have a good 'why Texas' story (if you have good grades and come from a prestigious school, that is). Places like Sidley or Vinson & Elkins love T10 1Ls, especially if you're T6 or above. Dallas also hires a decent # but they care a lot about ties.
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Re: Military Law  
  by: wrangler9   on: November 13, at 3:45:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
Heading to the Army January class. Anyone have a general idea of how initial assignments work? I imagine we will be getting slotted pretty soon and was just curious what the chances are that the assignment location will change when we are in school? Thanks
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=31543

Re: Honors Programs 2018-2019 (Non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 3:38:51 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone hear anything from DHS?
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 3:31:53 pm   in: Legal Employment
From AVUE:
Greetings,

Civil Division Torts Branch finalists are posted.

Deana
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 3:31:09 pm   in: Legal Employment
From Deana: Civil Division--Torts Branch up as well.

"Greetings,

Civil Division Torts Branch finalists are posted.

Deana"
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any 3L interviewing with Foley Hoag and heard from them?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 3:24:19 pm   in: Legal Employment
any 3L interviewing with Foley Hoag and heard from them?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298770

Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 3:23:57 pm   in: Legal Employment
From Deana:

"Hi, Civil Appellate candidates:

I just posted the finalists for Civil Division, Appellate Staff. Congratulations!

Deana"
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=288597

Evidence: "Specialized Knowledge" v. "Particularized Knowledge" (Lay Testimony)  
  by: rsox5000   on: November 13, at 3:21:28 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
I'm having trouble with the distinction between the two and am hoping someone can explain it. Thank you!
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=298769

Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 3:06:31 pm   in: Legal Employment
I know that OIL-DCS has started checking references. So has OCAHO.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=288597

Re: Bar exam for H4 visa holders  
  by: Nightcrawler   on: November 13, at 3:04:33 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Never talked about foreigners without an LLM. Not true. You literally quoted me saying "it's unlikely any U.S. firm/company would want to hire a lawyer without a U.S. law degree " (emphasis added) and said "Not true ... as long as you pass the bar exam you WILL be hired." See below: it's unlikely any U.S. firm/company would want to hire a lawyer without a U.S. law degree. Not ...
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 3:01:32 pm   in: Legal Employment
Any updates on OIL-App or OIL-DCS?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=288597

Re: 2.7gpa, 174 lsat chances  
  by: albanach   on: November 13, at 2:52:37 pm   in: What are my chances?
Just wondering what my chances are. Graduated in 2011 with a 2.7 after multiple serious family issues kind of derailed me. Always considered law school but started working right away to help the family. I'm hoping now is the time. Got a 174 on LSAT and got one letter from a professor, another letter from a former boss. What range of schools should I aim for and is it going to be possible for me t...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=298768

Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: maga   on: November 13, at 2:38:09 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Wishing the best for everyone. When I think of the exam, I feel like I can generally remember what I didn't write about for some of the essays, and it seems like others also made similar errors and omissions. -- Contracts: Forgot writing requirement for ade. ass. -- Evidence: Mis-labelled contemporaneous statement/did not discuss confrontation/missed domestic violence exception for char. evid. --...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=286381

Re: Taking a huge risk with PS  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 13, at 2:12:19 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
I would suggest you don't do this. You don't really want to present any negative information that you don't have to, and the PS is a time to show some personality and your personality isn't defined by your weaknesses. If you need to disclose the addiction because of a record, you can present it in an uplifting light in your addendum. If you don't need to, it's a bad move because the C&F commi...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=298693

Re: WUSTL Class of 2022 Thread  
  by: kamik01   on: November 13, at 2:08:09 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
In as of today. Got phone call from dean of admissions, area code 314. No email or status checker updates
Applied 09/14
Interview 09/27
Admitted 11/13
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=297838

Re: Bar exam for H4 visa holders  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 13, at 2:05:50 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Never talked about foreigners without an LLM. Not true. You literally quoted me saying "it's unlikely any U.S. firm/company would want to hire a lawyer without a U.S. law degree " (emphasis added) and said "Not true ... as long as you pass the bar exam you WILL be hired." See below: it's unlikely any U.S. firm/company would want to hire a lawyer without a U.S. law degree. Not ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=298736

Re: AUSA to investigations firm  
  by: Elston Gunn   on: November 13, at 2:05:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
You have minimal investigations experience and your ultimate goal is to be an investigations attorney. Seems like a no-brainer to take the job as an AUSA.

You have to weigh that against the value of getting back home, but if you value the career outcome most, this looks like a slam dunk.
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2.7gpa, 174 lsat chances  
  by:   on: November 13, at 1:59:58 pm   in: What are my chances?
Just wondering what my chances are. Graduated in 2011 with a 2.7 after multiple serious family issues kind of derailed me. Always considered law school but started working right away to help the family. I'm hoping now is the time. Got a 174 on LSAT and got one letter from a professor, another letter from a former boss. What range of schools should I aim for and is it going to be possible for me to...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=298768

Re: Colorado Law c/o 2022  
  by:   on: November 13, at 1:54:33 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
hi! have you heard yet? I turned in my app on 10/26, and got an acceptance email at 4pm on 11/8. good luck!
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298675

Re: March 2019 Group  
  by: taylorharris24   on: November 13, at 1:41:43 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
yeah I haven't been doing a whole lot though. I've been spending a couple hours a week doing one or two power score chapters and just trying to get good at ID'ing and the approaches for different LR and LG games. I'm planning to start ramping up practice tests the week of thanks giving and start devoting a lot more time to those and review until march.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=298561

Re: Marino Bar Review  
  by: sarahbturner32   on: November 13, at 1:36:27 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can anyone speak more in detail about the Marino Bar Review Retaker Course? Considering making the purchase, but there has been sparse feedback of the course itself. Before I bought the course I sent my scores to them-- I think I did it through their website. I talked to their director of bar review, who gave me a lot of advice on what I could do next to be succesful on the exam. The conversation...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=287873

Re: University of Texas c/o 2022 ('18-'19 Cycle)  
  by: goodlife5071   on: November 13, at 1:17:32 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists

CDLee wrote:
vincit qui patitur wrote:
TheRealHarveySpecter wrote:Anyone received interview invites yet?
I received and completed my interview at the end of last week. Basically twiddling my thumbs at this point. Anyone else?

Finished mine today, and not feeling confident about it..yikes..

Did y'all who have already gotten the invite apply ED or RD? I applied RD and went complete 11/2.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298427

Re: George Washington C/O 2022  
  by:   on: November 13, at 1:14:23 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Switched to "in review"- any approximations?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298691

Re: March 2019 Group  
  by:   on: November 13, at 1:12:23 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Yeah, I'm in a pretty similar mindset. Have you been studying since June?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=298561

Re: BU Law C/O 22 applicants ('18-'19 cycle)  
  by:   on: November 13, at 1:11:33 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
How is everyone feeling about when acceptances will start coming out?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298766

Re: DoJ SLIP Summer 2019  
  by: stewhan   on: November 13, at 12:56:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone else interview with EOIR OCAHO? They said we'd have a decision before Thanksgiving, but I just got another offer (unpaid, this is still my first choice) so I'm trying to weigh my options. The other place gave me a short timeline to decide
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298173

Re: Help me to decide if I should apply this cycle  
  by: Tommiahipp   on: November 13, at 12:56:21 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Yeah, I am in the mindset of why not shoot my shot. Obviously this is all contingent upon a solid LSAT in January. Can anyone speak to how applying and getting rejected affects your odds in the next cycle? Or how applying and getting accepted, but not getting the $$ you want would affect you the next application cycle? My GPA would be a touch higher, I would have another solid internship, and prob...
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Re: March 2019 Group  
  by: taylorharris24   on: November 13, at 12:53:53 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
I'm not sure if this helps at all, but I am taking March with June as sort of a back up in case I don't do well. Up to you of course though and where you are with studying.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=298561

Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: What'sUP?   on: November 13, at 12:44:48 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Wishing the best for everyone. When I think of the exam, I feel like I can generally remember what I didn't write about for some of the essays, and it seems like others also made similar errors and omissions. -- Contracts: Forgot writing requirement for ade. ass. -- Evidence: Mis-labelled contemporaneous statement/did not discuss confrontation/missed domestic violence exception for char. evid. -- ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=286381

Re: Taking a huge risk with PS  
  by: UBETutoring   on: November 13, at 12:36:02 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
I would suggest you don't do this. You don't really want to present any negative information that you don't have to, and the PS is a time to show some personality and your personality isn't defined by your weaknesses. If you need to disclose the addiction because of a record, you can present it in an uplifting light in your addendum. If you don't need to, it's a bad move because the C&F commit...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=298693

Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions  
  by: cornerstone   on: November 13, at 12:31:03 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
1. Could someone reccomend a supplement to use for Kordana's Corporations? He no longer uses a casebook, so want to make sure I have the black letter law down. Is working through the relevant portions of the E&E the best option? You're doing it wrong. With Kordana, there is no such thing as "black letter law." I would try to use an old outline from the outline bank and/or ask classm...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=86231

Re: University of Texas c/o 2022 ('18-'19 Cycle)  
  by:   on: November 13, at 12:28:45 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists

CDLee wrote:
vincit qui patitur wrote:
TheRealHarveySpecter wrote:Anyone received interview invites yet?
I received and completed my interview at the end of last week. Basically twiddling my thumbs at this point. Anyone else?

Finished mine today, and not feeling confident about it..yikes..

yeah it is not the most natural exercise. oddly i found the written part the most strange aspect of it all.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298427

PD Interview  
  by: tk421991   on: November 13, at 12:15:42 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
2L here. I have an interview for a spring volunteer internship in a couple days with a Massachusetts CPCS office. Just looking for general pointers on what kinds of questions to expect. I had a mock interview earlier today with Career Development and they advised asking around. The mock interviewers mentioned to expect hypos. I'm taking CrimPro, Trial Ad, ConLaw2, and PR that spring. I would be ha...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=298767

Re: Cornell c/o 2022 ('18-'19 Cycle)  
  by:   on: November 13, at 12:03:18 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Did anyone receive an interview request yet? 168/3.7 RD went complete on early October, and no request yet.. fearing the worst I have similar stats and received an interview request a week or two ago. No decision yet (although not sure anyone has gotten a decision). But I wouldn't feat the worst! There's still so much time! Thanks for the info! Not sure whether they are being tough on me because ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298426

Re: Boston College C/O 2022 ('18-'19 Cycle)  
  by: Jedacruz   on: November 13, at 11:59:20 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Under review. 11/13
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298370

Re: Cornell c/o 2022 ('18-'19 Cycle)  
  by:   on: November 13, at 11:58:47 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists

CDLee wrote:Did anyone receive an interview request yet? 168/3.7 RD went complete on early October, and no request yet.. fearing the worst
I have similar stats and received an interview request a week or two ago. No decision yet (although not sure anyone has gotten a decision). But I wouldn't feat the worst! There's still so much time!
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298426

Re: Cornell c/o 2022 ('18-'19 Cycle)  
  by:   on: November 13, at 11:56:59 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Did anyone receive an interview request yet? 168/3.7 RD went complete on early October, and no request yet.. fearing the worst
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298426

BU Law C/O 22 applicants ('18-'19 cycle)  
  by:   on: November 13, at 11:54:39 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Let's talk!
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298766

UCLA C/O 22 applicants ('18-'19 cycle)  
  by:   on: November 13, at 11:53:12 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Let's discuss!
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298765

Re: University of Texas c/o 2022 ('18-'19 Cycle)  
  by:   on: November 13, at 11:50:21 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists

vincit qui patitur wrote:
TheRealHarveySpecter wrote:Anyone received interview invites yet?
I received and completed my interview at the end of last week. Basically twiddling my thumbs at this point. Anyone else?

Finished mine today, and not feeling confident about it..yikes..
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298427

Re: Georgetown C/O 2022 ('18-'19 Cycle)  
  by:   on: November 13, at 11:49:04 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Is it just me whose requirements list and dates went blank? Went complete on early October, alumn interviewed on October 28th, and hearing nothing so far.. Fearing the worst. I wouldn't - there was a huge waitlist/deferral wave on Friday, so I think if you dodged that, you should be good. They also seem to mail acceptances earlier in the week, so fingers crossed! Thanks! How did you find about th...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298413

Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 11:07:50 am   in: Legal Employment
Cool, I know at least on of my references was checked last week, but I'm not sure about my other two references. Good luck in the process![/quote]

No finalists for the UST yet?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=288597

Re: Georgetown C/O 2022 ('18-'19 Cycle)  
  by: lawschoolforumlurker   on: November 13, at 11:05:49 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Is it just me whose requirements list and dates went blank? Went complete on early October, alumn interviewed on October 28th, and hearing nothing so far.. Fearing the worst. I wouldn't - there was a huge waitlist/deferral wave on Friday, so I think if you dodged that, you should be good. They also seem to mail acceptances earlier in the week, so fingers crossed! Thanks! How did you find about th...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298413

Re: University of Texas c/o 2022 ('18-'19 Cycle)  
  by:   on: November 13, at 11:00:27 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists

TheRealHarveySpecter wrote:Anyone received interview invites yet?
I received and completed my interview at the end of last week. Basically twiddling my thumbs at this point. Anyone else?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298427

Re: March 2019 Group  
  by:   on: November 13, at 10:51:42 am   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Checking in! Though I'm currently trying to decide between March and June, just started prepping last week...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=298561

Re: Georgetown C/O 2022 ('18-'19 Cycle)  
  by: lawschoolforumlurker   on: November 13, at 10:38:21 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists

tolerablesilver wrote:
lawschoolforumlurker wrote:
tolerablesilver wrote:Waitlist crew checking in.

SPWL as of 11/9. Haven’t sent a formal LOCI yet but will soon.

@tolerablesilver - when did you submit/go complete?

Sept 19 complete

I see that you're GRE only. What were your approximate stats?
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Re: Are 65% of my MBE practice questions useless?  
  by: Nightcrawler   on: November 13, at 10:33:44 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Stumbled across this youtube vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IIoajZaXe0 Is this thing about out of date practice questions legit? No, it does not seem legit at all. A ton of people here, myself included, see a direct correlation between a higher practice score on Adaptibar (or other courses with released "outdated" questions) and their real MBE scores. I know you are just trying t...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=298752

Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions  
  by: LawMan16   on: November 13, at 10:32:53 am   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Hi all, Two quick questions for the group: 1. Could someone reccomend a supplement to use for Kordana's Corporations? He no longer uses a casebook, so want to make sure I have the black letter law down. Is working through the relevant portions of the E&E the best option? 2. Similarly, does anyone have a sense of what his exams look like? I know he is regarded as being fairly arbitrary, and tha...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=86231

Re: Are 65% of my MBE practice questions useless?  
  by: Nightcrawler   on: November 13, at 10:28:35 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

diatribe wrote:I'm also suspicious that OP is a shill for this head bobbing doppler. Nice first post, Has2pass

Lol, I see so many here. It would look way more professional if they just advertised their course in an honest, candid way. It makes you think about how they structured their course.
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Re: Help me to decide if I should apply this cycle  
  by: UBETutoring   on: November 13, at 10:20:01 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
I don't think there would be harm in applying if you hit a 175. Even if you're late, it's possible that an admissions dean will realize your numbers would be very valuable for a future cycle, and make you a great offer if you commit to attending one year later. I've heard this happen before.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298761

Re: Taking a huge risk with PS  
  by: Nycsplitter   on: November 13, at 9:49:05 am   in: Law School Personal Statements
I used a PS that covered almost the exact same topic and it was very helpful and may have got me over the edge on a few schools. I also used a similar statement to transfer to a T10 school after 1L. I think it really depends on the context. For me, I had been clean for a number of years, gained work experience and had other powerful aspects in my personal life I wanted to share to provide context...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=298693

Re: Columbia c/o 2022 Applicants Thread (2018-2019)  
  by: inthetrenches21   on: November 13, at 9:35:02 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists

BrainsyK wrote:
CLS2020 wrote:How much of a number's game is Columbia?
I am scared af.

Is there a number higher than 100%? If so, that.

I've heard this a lot, but can any people who've been through the process confirm this? I'm admittedly applying next cycle, but am considering applying ED with an International Superior Classification and a ~173 LSAT
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)  
  by: 2013   on: November 13, at 8:46:33 am   in: Legal Employment
This is really killing me. Looking since August, I went to a good school but some have told me it will be very hard to get a biglaw job. Others including people on hiring committees have said it's totally doable, will probably just be lower-tier biglaw. But I don't know how things will work out for me and I feel such anxiety about what I should be doing. If I can't get a decent firm I'd rather ju...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=192753

Re: How old were the oldest law school grads who were successful in biglaw or near-big-law?  
  by: nealric   on: November 13, at 8:24:46 am   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
I went to law school with a retired Navy veteran who ended up at a market-paying mid-size boutique (~50 lawyers). I never asked his age but he looked about 50.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=298758

Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 8:13:04 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard from BIA? Have your references been checked or status updated or anything?

No status change or reference check for me yet.
Nothing here either

BIA references have been checked
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Re: Help me to decide if I should apply this cycle  
  by: kellyjohnson   on: November 13, at 7:49:58 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
For Y, it doesnt matter when you apply. you have the same chance in february as you do in september. For H (and likely S, though not as sure with S), it does matter. If you wait until the end of the cycle, you can see how many 175+ scorers there are. If there are 400-500 (as there were two years ago), then you probably have a good shot with a 175+ even in February. If there are 600-700 175+ scorer...
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Re: 2019 February California Bar  
  by:   on: November 13, at 5:37:37 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Has anyone decided on a bar prep course yet? I'm trying to figure out if any of the bar prep courses have integrated the new Rules of Professional Conduct that came into effect in November (and are fair game for the Feb 2019 exam). Does anyone have any insight into this?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=298763

Re: Georgetown C/O 2022 ('18-'19 Cycle)  
  by:   on: November 13, at 4:39:17 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Is it just me whose requirements list and dates went blank? Went complete on early October, alumn interviewed on October 28th, and hearing nothing so far.. Fearing the worst. I wouldn't - there was a huge waitlist/deferral wave on Friday, so I think if you dodged that, you should be good. They also seem to mail acceptances earlier in the week, so fingers crossed! Thanks! How did you find about th...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298413

Re: AUSA to investigations firm  
  by:   on: November 13, at 2:50:31 am   in: Legal Employment
Aren't the SAUSA jobs unpaid? If I have this right, you are currently serving in an unpaid role in a district and have an offer for a paid AUSA division in the same district? You didn't provide any other options you currently have leads on, so pretty unsure what the question is on which you are asking for insight. If that question is "should I take the AUSUA job" then, based on the info...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298731

Re: 2019 February California Bar  
  by: FinallyPassedTheBar   on: November 13, at 2:32:48 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Adaptibar for MBE, BarEssays.com for essays, and Convisor mini-review book for black letter law. Aim for 2000 questions at +70% correct on Adaptibar.

That combo helped me pass the CBX after years of spinning my wheels.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=298763

2019 February California Bar  
  by: Happy88   on: November 13, at 2:09:27 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I don’t think I’ve seen a thread created for this. If it was, I’ll delete it.

That being said, what are your strategies for essays and MBEs? Is it true that essays that came up in July don’t usually come up in Feb?
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Re: Waitlisted at Baylor Law  
  by: goingnutslawschool   on: November 13, at 2:01:44 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Sorry to hear about that- if I were you I would retake. I don’t think I’m going to apply to Baylor. I have read and heard that the culture is very cut throat type A. I still want to see if I could score higher in the LSAT so I’ll take it again- scored 162 in Oct.
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Re: CA Bar Retakers Strategy  
  by: Happy88   on: November 13, at 1:58:01 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I just took the July 18 exam and I’m 99.9% sure I failed it. I’m a foreign practicing lawyer and English is not my first language. I have never studied US laws, so studying for the bar itself was a huge breakdown/accomplishment for me. Now I think I have a better idea on how to study each topic and where I’m weak at. My question is, should I just skip Barbri lectures this time around? And just st...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: Happy88   on: November 13, at 1:55:48 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
At this moment, I don’t remember anything.

3 days left and the anticipation is killing me.
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: mathandthelaw   on: November 13, at 1:04:25 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
That is what Barbri said. I hope that's right! Oh yeah your right about OJ exception, they have to be unavailable (not dead). I remember now, I just hope I remembered on exam day ... I'll have to review a few things! Now I don't remember what I said with the OJ exception... I barely remember the test either. And I don't really care because either 1) I passed, and don't have to worry about it, or ...
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Help me to decide if I should apply this cycle  
  by: Tommiahipp   on: November 13, at 12:58:16 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Hello everyone, So I am looking at taking the January 2019 LSAT. I am testing really well, between 172-175 consistently, with a few outliers on either side. I was not planning on applying for this cycle, since I wanted to get the benefit of an early application, but I am starting to reconsider that. I am studying abroad right now and have had too much time on my hands. Thus, I have already written...
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Re: Attorney v associate  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 12:00:58 am   in: Legal Employment
At my firm we have both and the "attorneys" certainly work much less, but also make a lower salary. If you pro-rate their salary, it's probably higher based on the number of hours they work. If you have nothing else then take it, but if you have an associate offer from even a much lower ranked/smaller firm, I'd take that. It's hard to go from attorney to associate, but not impossible, es...
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Re: Columbia c/o 2022 Applicants Thread (2018-2019)  
  by:   on: November 12, at 11:33:05 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists

prelawman wrote:Who else is ED???

I am!
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Re: University of Texas c/o 2022 ('18-'19 Cycle)  
  by:   on: November 12, at 11:32:01 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Got the interview invite a few days ago. Thinking about doing it today!
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Re: Georgetown C/O 2022 ('18-'19 Cycle)  
  by:   on: November 12, at 11:29:44 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Is it just me whose requirements list and dates went blank? Went complete on early October, alumn interviewed on October 28th, and hearing nothing so far.. Fearing the worst. I wouldn't - there was a huge waitlist/deferral wave on Friday, so I think if you dodged that, you should be good. They also seem to mail acceptances earlier in the week, so fingers crossed! Thanks for the info! Waitlist are...
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Re: Firm posts new opening - foreshadowing?  
  by: RaceJudicata   on: November 12, at 11:08:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
I started in a new firm recently and received a lukewarm opening from the attorneys there. Still getting used to the culture there, as it's markedly different than my last firm. Anyway, the same day that I started, the managing partner of my group posted a new opening for an associate of my level. I'm concerned that she reached a snap judgment that I suck and as a result she needs to hire someone...
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Re: Firm posts new opening - foreshadowing?  
  by: nixy   on: November 12, at 11:04:58 pm   in: Legal Employment
Someone (else) may be leaving that you don't know about. Or they already left before you started. Seriously, relax. They did not make a decision to fire you on the first day you started.
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Re: Law School Research  
  by: nixy   on: November 12, at 11:02:46 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate

paradiselost9 wrote:
nixy wrote:
paradiselost9 wrote:Female students are emboldened. They raise their hands with comments about gender bias in old cases.
JFC this is one of the stupidest comments I've ever seen.
I wouldn't call their comments stupid.
You're not very funny.
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Re: Law School Research  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 12, at 10:57:10 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
I think you know what it means for a person with money to dress casually and a person of no money to dress with what they have. It's subtle and paints with a broad brush. People with money tend to be able to match their outfits how they want, wear what fits in the way they want, have more pieces of clothing, have something proper to wear for an occasion. I've really never observed the "subtl...
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Re: Applying via paper applications to federal district courts for 2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 10:52:10 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I cant emphasize enough the upside of applying via paper to pretty much any chambers. I worked in a chambers that explicitly stated on OSCAR that we did not accept paper applications, but half of our clerk hires my year came from people who applied via paper, one before we even opened that slot on OSCAR. Paper resumes catches people's attention in a way that an app through OSCAR cannot (they at le...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: bacillusanthracis   on: November 12, at 10:46:55 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
That is what Barbri said. I hope that's right! Oh yeah your right about OJ exception, they have to be unavailable (not dead). I remember now, I just hope I remembered on exam day ... I'll have to review a few things! Now I don't remember what I said with the OJ exception... I barely remember the test either. And I don't really care because either 1) I passed, and don't have to worry about it, or ...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: mathandthelaw   on: November 12, at 10:39:46 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I forgot my exact con law arguments, but I remember saying something along the lines that by owning 70% of the railroads, the state no longer qualified for "market participant" because there was no market to participate in because it had a monopoly. Or maybe I didn't say exactly that, but I remember the 70% was an issue I kept going back to, lol. Sounds like a good argument. I wish I co...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: mathandthelaw   on: November 12, at 10:36:16 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Agree with you. I talked about the OJ exception as well. I was surprised Bar secrets didn't talk about it, and I think they just missed it. I thought OJ exception fit better than Spontaneous statement for the statements in the 911 call. I thought it was debatable whether it was a startled reaction to being beaten or merely reporting after. I argued the immediate timing after would likely get it i...
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Re: 2018 Dallas Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 10:27:49 pm   in: Legal Employment
Is it just me or are the Chambers rankings very off-the-mark when it comes to Texas? For corporate/M&A, Kirkland is at Band 3, way below Baker Botts (at Band 1). Everyone knows Kirkland and V&E rule Houston/Texas M&A. Baker Botts is struggling, at least in Houston. Even Latham lost their biggest partner to Kirkland recently. And Sidley is way down at Band 5 along with Foley Gardere. I...
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Re: Firm posts new opening - foreshadowing?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 10:27:26 pm   in: Legal Employment
I started in a new firm recently and received a lukewarm opening from the attorneys there. Still getting used to the culture there, as it's markedly different than my last firm. Anyway, the same day that I started, the managing partner of my group posted a new opening for an associate of my level. I'm concerned that she reached a snap judgment that I suck and as a result she needs to hire someone...
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Re: Firm posts new opening - foreshadowing?  
  by: foregetaboutdre   on: November 12, at 10:24:53 pm   in: Legal Employment
I started in a new firm recently and received a lukewarm opening from the attorneys there. Still getting used to the culture there, as it's markedly different than my last firm. Anyway, the same day that I started, the managing partner of my group posted a new opening for an associate of my level. I'm concerned that she reached a snap judgment that I suck and as a result she needs to hire someone...
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Firm posts new opening - foreshadowing?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 10:16:06 pm   in: Legal Employment
I started in a new firm recently and received a lukewarm opening from the attorneys there. Still getting used to the culture there, as it's markedly different than my last firm. Anyway, the same day that I started, the managing partner of my group posted a new opening for an associate of my level. I'm concerned that she reached a snap judgment that I suck and as a result she needs to hire someone ...
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Re: Taking a huge risk with PS  
  by: Npret   on: November 12, at 10:14:40 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
I used a PS that covered almost the exact same topic and it was very helpful and may have got me over the edge on a few schools. I also used a similar statement to transfer to a T10 school after 1L. I think it really depends on the context. For me, I had been clean for a number of years, gained work experience and had other powerful aspects in my personal life I wanted to share to provide context...
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Re: Personal Finance 101 for Young Lawyers  
  by: Yugihoe   on: November 12, at 10:07:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
I feel like at some point there was a general discussion about roth 401(k) vs. traditional and which is smarter for biglaw associates, does anyone have input or know where that was? Well given that you're going to be in the highest tax bracket as a big law associate (excluding stub year) I can't imagine a reason for not doing a traditional 401k where you put in pre-tax money. You might or might n...
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Re: Honors Programs 2018-2019 (Non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 9:54:09 pm   in: Legal Employment
Different anon. I received an e-mail and phone call to schedule an interview on Wednesday. My interview is next week at a field office.
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How old were the oldest law school grads who were successful in biglaw or near-big-law?  
  by: jackdanielsga   on: November 12, at 9:48:32 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
I'd like to know what's the "reasonable" cutoff age to start working in biglaw or midlaw or any kind of meaningful law firm. Please share how old were the oldest people who made it at least through 1-2 years of biglaw or some kind of law firm, subject to the following conditions: - NO pre-JD law work experience (eg. a paralegal with 20 years of experience who finally decided to get a JD ...
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Automation Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 9:37:49 pm   in: Legal Employment
I had a couple questions about automation in the legal field as well as how it compares to other professional services. How will attorneys be affected by automation in the next decade? How long do you think it'll take for lawyers to be 100% automated? 100 years from now? 200? Would you consider being a lawyer a safer, less safe or about the same compared to the business/finance world eg: Investmen...
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Re: Personal Finance 101 for Young Lawyers  
  by: HangingAround   on: November 12, at 9:24:30 pm   in: Legal Employment
I feel like at some point there was a general discussion about roth 401(k) vs. traditional and which is smarter for biglaw associates, does anyone have input or know where that was? Well given that you're going to be in the highest tax bracket as a big law associate (excluding stub year) I can't imagine a reason for not doing a traditional 401k where you put in pre-tax money. You might or might n...
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Re: Is Quinn LA THAAAT BAD?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 9:21:44 pm   in: Legal Employment
There's a lot of negativity going on, so I'll also throw in my friend who recently accepted Quinn. They asked a lot of former Quinn people, and there were some horror stories but a lot of people who enjoyed their experience. What I've taken away from this whole process is that it takes a certain kind of person to enjoy Quinn. You have to seriously love litigation, like you went to law school with...
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Attorney v associate  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 9:12:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
I was recently offered an attorney position at a law firm. From my understanding, attorney means non-partner track. Has anyone had luck going from non-partner track to partner track? The salary is kind of low for the attorney position compared to associates as well. Am I expected to work the same number of hours for less pay?
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Re: Are 65% of my MBE practice questions useless?  
  by: diatribe   on: November 12, at 8:32:05 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Stumbled across this youtube vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IIoajZaXe0 Is this thing about out of date practice questions legit? Yes. The law has changed since 1998. The law has also changed since 2017. His video refers to MBE questions released by NCBE. He also alleges that 65% of other bar prep companies use MBE questions that are substantively outdated. That allegation, as far as it rel...
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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions  
  by: tgmi123   on: November 12, at 8:23:31 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
I'm currently in Nesson's Fair Trial. The class is interesting but I'm also a bit confused by it. Do people have insights about how grading works in this class? I've occasionally heard that it's an "easy H" class but have heard more often that grading is completely random and a bunch of people end up w/ Ps. If the latter, any ideas on how to do well in the class? I took a Nesson class l...
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Re: Firm group w/no junior associates means what  
  by: hlsperson1111   on: November 12, at 8:16:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
This is common at many firms - you will be slotted into litigation or corporate when you start, but you don't pick (or get placed into) a more specific group until later. That said, there are definitely people at any firm who specialize (including in IP litigation) before they are formally slotted into that group.
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Re: Taking a huge risk with PS  
  by: nrthwst4now   on: November 12, at 7:10:32 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
I used a PS that covered almost the exact same topic and it was very helpful and may have got me over the edge on a few schools. I also used a similar statement to transfer to a T10 school after 1L. I think it really depends on the context. For me, I had been clean for a number of years, gained work experience and had other powerful aspects in my personal life I wanted to share to provide context...
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habitual Reading and RC  
  by: taylorharris24   on: November 12, at 7:01:23 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Hello, I've read a lot from high scorers and others alike that they believe that one way in which to improve in RC is to simply read. I'm curious if there is anyone who has devoted a serious amount of time to reading things like the economist, and if they tracked their improvement. I think it's obvious that the more you read the better you will probably be at RC, but I am curious what the rate of ...
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Re: Firm group w/no junior associates means what  
  by: 4LTsPointingNorth   on: November 12, at 6:59:54 pm   in: Legal Employment
Perhaps WilmerHale (i) doesn't assign juniors to a specific sub-group within litigation, (ii) doesn't list its junior associates as belonging to specific groups on its public website or (iii) eats junior associates alive and all its former IP litigation juniors are dead and being digested.
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Re: Study Partner/Group?  
  by: taylorharris24   on: November 12, at 6:57:13 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Haven't gotten any bites yet lol. This website seems to be a less active than it used to be some years back. I'm most curious in how other people approach problems and comparing. If you want to exchange info, let me know.
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Re: Law School Research  
  by: paradiselost9   on: November 12, at 6:57:12 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate

nixy wrote:
paradiselost9 wrote:Female students are emboldened. They raise their hands with comments about gender bias in old cases.
JFC this is one of the stupidest comments I've ever seen.
I wouldn't call their comments stupid.
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Re: Applying via paper applications to federal district courts for 2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 6:44:33 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Does anyone have any information about applying to federal district court judges via paper applications for the 2020 term before the June 9th opening date for OSCAR? I was thinking about applying to district courts that haven't adopted the new hiring plan, and I was curious if anyone had any information about judges that usually accept paper applications. So far neither career services or Google ...
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Re: Law School Research  
  by: nixy   on: November 12, at 6:41:55 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate

paradiselost9 wrote:Female students are emboldened. They raise their hands with comments about gender bias in old cases.
JFC this is one of the stupidest comments I've ever seen.
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Re: Columbia c/o 2022 Applicants Thread (2018-2019)  
  by: BrainsyK   on: November 12, at 6:37:45 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists

CLS2020 wrote:How much of a number's game is Columbia?
I am scared af.

Is there a number higher than 100%? If so, that.
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Re: 2018-2019 Post-Clerkship Hiring  
  by: LBJ's Hair   on: November 12, at 6:36:10 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Should someone thinking about "trading up" from her SA firm after a clerkship (with whom she accepted an offer) worry about her SA firm finding out? Sizable legal market but not DC/NY/Chi. Obviously, this person would not tell anyone at her SA firm or list anyone from her SA firm as a "reference." Thank you!! They probably expect you to re-recruit, and even if they don't, it s...
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Re: AUSA to investigations firm  
  by: LBJ's Hair   on: November 12, at 6:29:44 pm   in: Legal Employment
What is your question?
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: slowned   on: November 12, at 6:24:15 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I'm in the same boat...hoping my PT and MBE scores are solid. These last few days of waiting are the worst!
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Re: Biglaw L&E Midlevel Associate in NYC - AMA  
  by: kaiser   on: November 12, at 6:16:34 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Appreciate the thorough response(s). As a bit of a introvert myself, how do you deal with networking? Some attorneys tell me it's not necessary to be good at networking and let my work product speak for itself. Still, speaking at relevant LE conferences or attending the local LE association bar nights or whatever seem beneficial. What did you mean that it's hard to get the nuances of LE? Pardon m...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: MBernard   on: November 12, at 6:11:48 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
My woes: Also completely screwed up my pension analysis for CP, and thought the motorboat was a gift. So forget about community property. And contracts, I didn't talk about adequate assurances writing requirement. I just have to think positively. Whatever happens, happens . It's really hard to get all of these issues in the moment. I have to think the bar is a bit forgiving, some people do pass t...
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Re: Best Laptop for Remote and Travel Work  
  by: paradiselost9   on: November 12, at 5:57:30 pm   in: Legal Employment
yeah,
latitude https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/de ... 490-laptop
thinkpad x1 https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/th ... /thinkpadx
or mac https://www.apple.com/mac/

Also check out Lisa's MobileTechReview channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCW6J17 ... cQgd_kHt5A
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Re: Columbia c/o 2022 Applicants Thread (2018-2019)  
  by: CLS2020   on: November 12, at 5:56:38 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
How much of a number's game is Columbia?
I am scared af.
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Re: Looking for Study Partner(s)/Suggestions towards November LSAT  
  by:   on: November 12, at 5:53:39 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum

Tennisgurl wrote:Hello there!

I’m taking the January LSAT exam and am looking for a study partner in the SF Bay Area.

Hey! I'm in the SF Bay Area as well, looking for a study partner for the homestretch before the November LSAT. Let me know if you'd like to meet up!
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Firm group w/no junior associates means what  
  by: paradiselost9   on: November 12, at 5:44:58 pm   in: Legal Employment
I was looking at WilmerHale’s IP litigation groups. They have 107 lawyers altogether, but none of them are junior associates. I would like someone to generally explain what that means. I don’t know what question to ask. There’s something I don’t know, but I don’t know what it is. The only part of me I have is ignorant. It sees at that and wonders where are all the juniors.
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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions  
  by: hlsperson1111   on: November 12, at 5:38:49 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
I'm currently in Nesson's Fair Trial. The class is interesting but I'm also a bit confused by it. Do people have insights about how grading works in this class? I've occasionally heard that it's an "easy H" class but have heard more often that grading is completely random and a bunch of people end up w/ Ps. If the latter, any ideas on how to do well in the class? I took a Nesson class l...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by:   on: November 12, at 5:34:19 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Agree with you. I talked about the OJ exception as well. I was surprised Bar secrets didn't talk about it, and I think they just missed it. I thought OJ exception fit better than Spontaneous statement for the statements in the 911 call. I thought it was debatable whether it was a startled reaction to being beaten or merely reporting after. I argued the immediate timing after would likely get it i...
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Re: Which is the better firm?  
  by: hlsperson1111   on: November 12, at 5:33:33 pm   in: Legal Employment
Dumb thread. DPW is a very good firm for M&A and for financial industry-adjacent work (including transactional work, litigation, white collar, and regulatory counseling). K&E is a bankruptcy, private equity, and litigation powerhouse. They are both very profitable and have wildly different cultures. They are very different but very good firms. Why so much angst? ETA: This is hlsperson1111,...
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Re: Law School Research  
  by: paradiselost9   on: November 12, at 5:32:53 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
People tend to not dress like they’re poor because most people here have never been poor. What exactly does "dress like they're poor" mean? I don't recall ever meeting a single T14 student who had a habit of rolling into class decked out in expensive apparel or wearing expensive jewelry. Most everyone I've ever met showed up dressed very casually. P-C culture wrt women is very strict, a...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 5:27:09 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone receive news back yet?
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: estefanchanning   on: November 12, at 5:15:48 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I forgot my exact con law arguments, but I remember saying something along the lines that by owning 70% of the railroads, the state no longer qualified for "market participant" because there was no market to participate in because it had a monopoly.

Or maybe I didn't say exactly that, but I remember the 70% was an issue I kept going back to, lol.
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: mathandthelaw   on: November 12, at 5:06:14 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
People were presenting their insights on what they thought about the essay. Contracts clause could definitely have been talked about in con law. I didn't discuss it, although I wish I had. Barsecrets went into a thorough analysis using a few of the facts actually: i.e. lost all of their customers because he can no longer guarantee delivery (meaning these are longstanding customers and he had guar...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: lawschool11111111   on: November 12, at 4:50:29 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
A person's ability to handle the anxiety and stress of the exam is also huge. Even though I was a top student, I blanked during parts of the exam. Like I am 99% sure I did not write about the market participant exception in the Con Law essay even though I am sure it was triggered. There are so many factors that play into whether a person passes. I felt absolutely awful after the proctor called ti...
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Re: Are 65% of my MBE practice questions useless?  
  by: encore1101   on: November 12, at 4:36:17 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
started watching the video. couldn't finish after noticing how often the guy bobbed his head forward.
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Re: 2018 Dallas Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 4:14:44 pm   in: Legal Employment
Is it just me or are the Chambers rankings very off-the-mark when it comes to Texas? For corporate/M&A, Kirkland is at Band 3, way below Baker Botts (at Band 1). Everyone knows Kirkland and V&E rule Houston/Texas M&A. Baker Botts is struggling, at least in Houston. Even Latham lost their biggest partner to Kirkland recently. And Sidley is way down at Band 5 along with Foley Gardere. Fo...
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Re: Applying via paper applications to federal district courts for 2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 4:07:25 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Hey - I'm a 2L at a T50 with a fed clerkship who only applied via paper. Our career office monitored OSCAR and let us know when judges were soliciting, but many seem to never post. You should ask if there's someone in your CSO office willing to do that since it will get you info about some. My biggest piece of advice would be that if you're targetting a particular area to either blanket the state ...
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Re: THEMIS DISCUSSION - FEBRUARY 2019  
  by:   on: November 12, at 3:52:39 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I don't learn from outlining either. Aside from doing what Themis has assigned, I've been writing out the questions I've missed and the ones I've guessed right but wasn't sure. Then I just keep drilling those rules in my head. I go through Critical Pass cards on the app during my commute to and from work.
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Re: Applying via paper applications to federal district courts for 2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 3:51:26 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
It might be possible to create a dummy OSCAR account (or just look over the shoulder of a 3L). I've heard some judges on OSCAR expressly disclaim the hiring plan and/or request paper applications. I'm not sure how widely available that information is outside of OSCAR.
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Re: Match 2019 Group  
  by: taylorharris24   on: November 12, at 3:46:22 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Ugh just checked in. Sorry made this in a hurry on my Iphone. Can a mod please correct the title to March?

Apologies and thank you.
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Are 65% of my MBE practice questions useless?  
  by:   on: November 12, at 3:33:42 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Stumbled across this youtube vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IIoajZaXe0

Is this thing about out of date practice questions legit?
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Re: Applying via paper applications to federal district courts for 2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 3:28:47 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Does anyone have any information about applying to federal district court judges via paper applications for the 2020 term before the June 9th opening date for OSCAR? I was thinking about applying to district courts that haven't adopted the new hiring plan, and I was curious if anyone had any information about judges that usually accept paper applications. So far neither career services or Google ...
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Re: Tax LLM or certificate?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 3:23:45 pm   in: Legal Employment
No, adding degrees is unlikely to help improve your job prospects. The only exception is a Tax LL.M. from NYU, Georgetown, or (possibly) Florida. Do not shell out the $ for a Tax LL.M. at your current school (unless you're doing your J.D. at NYU/Georgetown/Florida). OP here. Thank you. Can we say NYU and I do well there. Is this likely to help? Is this a maybe, but good chance you're just out the...
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