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Re: Office Fashion Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 10:09:34 am   in: Legal Employment
Woman in Boston biglaw. Boston is, by nature, not the most fashionable city (i.e. cobblestones will break your ankles if you wear stilettos), but I am someone who likes to dress up for work. I never wear jeans to work, though I do have colleagues who do and no one has really made a fuss (though, once, an older partner told my female colleague they shouldn't dress like that (to which my colleague b...
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Re: GPA on LSAC Academic Summary Report  
  by: mysonx3   on: August 23, at 10:04:48 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Whether they could've transferred to CSU is completely irrelevant. If they were for credit at the CC, they are not remedial. Intermediate Algebra in particular is not always remedial. My school offers it as a standard 100 level course, for instance. Is there anything on your transcript to indicate that they are remedial (not being able to transfer is no the same thing)? If not, you're probably out...
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: miskellyjohnson   on: August 23, at 10:02:20 am   in: Choosing a Law School
Are you claiming Yale wouldn’t be first? Or that there wouldn’t a lot of subjective factors influencing people’s answers? Or that Harvard doesn’t have the largest number of alumni out there? I'm not claiming anything. They do the survey year after year, and Harvard is consistently ranked #1 and, yes, occasionally #2 (last year was H/S tied at #1, Y at #3, Chicago #4, Columbia #5, NYU #9) . https:...
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Re: Hawkins: Am I getting to maybe and arguing both sides right?  
  by: nixy   on: August 23, at 10:02:19 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
Wait till you have a larger base of knowledge and then use old exams (toward the end of the semester) or E&E’s (earlier on) to respond to hypos. Hawkins has been edited for your case book to highlight one specific point. You will get a much messier more complicated set of facts to pull out various doctrines, so practicing on individual cases is of limited value.
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Re: Gibson Dunn CB --> Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 9:58:13 am   in: Legal Employment
I was told that LA sometimes, but not always, extends the offer at dinner.
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Re: Hawkins: Am I getting to maybe and arguing both sides right?  
  by: cavalier1138   on: August 23, at 9:49:22 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
Just do the work. Prep for class, read the cases (and notes), brief the cases, pay attention to what the professor is asking.

You will start to figure this out as you go. And cold calls aren't just for pleasure; the professor is usually showing you how they like to think about issues.
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Re: GPA on LSAC Academic Summary Report  
  by: cavalier1138   on: August 23, at 9:47:47 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I'm not exactly sure how LSAC defines what is and isn't remedial. You might want to call/e-mail and find out. But also, re-read LSAC's policy: "Those given for remedial courses only if the transcript clearly indicates they are remedial ." That doesn't mean courses that you consider to be remedial; the transcript has to actually say that the course was remedial. Whether they were conside...
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Re: Am I crazy? Stanford Waitlist Acceptance vs. Berkeley ($$$)  
  by: nealric   on: August 23, at 9:45:57 am   in: Choosing a Law School
While I understand a healthy fear of debt, it's not material compared to the likely lifetime earnings of a Stanford graduate. It's true that either may end up in the same place, but Stanford may offer more possibilities for a future career. There is almost zero risk of a Stanford grad striking out at OCI, but that risk certainly exists at Berkely (even if not terribly high). Don't worry about the...
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Re: Simpson v. PW v. GDC for NY corporate?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 9:45:56 am   in: Legal Employment
If you are doing corporate work and you are being influenced by your politics, you are going to have a rough time once you start working. You don’t pick and choose your clients and you certainly don’t get to filter them based on their politics. There is absolutely no distinction between the politics of the corporate clients of someone like PW or Gibson. From the moment you set foot in the office ...
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Re: GPA on LSAC Academic Summary Report  
  by: fuzzyvoice   on: August 23, at 9:22:01 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I'm not exactly sure how LSAC defines what is and isn't remedial. But I figured that it would be obvious to them that courses named Elementary Algebra and Intermediate Algebra, equivalent to high school-level courses, are remedial. My transcript includes the section “CSU GE”, which the transcript key defines as “California State University General Education. The CSU General Education enables a stu...
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Re: Cravath vs Paul Weiss vs DPW vs KE (Lit)  
  by: Wild Card   on: August 23, at 9:21:25 am   in: Legal Employment
Spent 4 years at CSM: PW probably on par with CSM but DPW a slight notch below in terms of litigation. Others will concur on that. Can't weigh in on relative strength between CSM and PW but am a former DPW associate. I wasn't litigation but it was pretty obvious that the lit associates didn't have much to do (at least in terms of the experience that aspiring litigators would want). Corporate folk...
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Re: GPA on LSAC Academic Summary Report  
  by: mysonx3   on: August 23, at 9:14:34 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Were these classes worth credit at your community college, e.g. towards an associates degree there? What does the transcript say about them?
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 9:11:48 am   in: Legal Employment
Has anybody gotten dinged by Kramer? Dates & mail/email if so?
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Re: McGuireWoods CB / Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 9:11:20 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Any offers for Chicago office?

CB 8/12 --> Offer 8/14
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Re: Yet Another "Help Me Choose" Thread (NYC Biglaw)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 9:09:59 am   in: Legal Employment
Not sure about Kramer. But Goodwin is a good firm based on what I've heard. The culture is great, no a-holes or yellers, even in NY office. People generally bill slightly over 2,000. And yes Goodwin has good reputation in the valley.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=302627

Re: Georgetown OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 9:00:51 am   in: Legal Employment

Utopia44 wrote:Anyone hear anything from Cooley post callback? Thanks!

You're probably on their B list if you've waited long for Cooley. They don't give many more offers than spots available.
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Re: GPA on LSAC Academic Summary Report  
  by: nixy   on: August 23, at 8:59:35 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
How does LSAC define remedial, and how does that match with your courses?
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: nixy   on: August 23, at 8:57:57 am   in: Choosing a Law School
Are you claiming Yale wouldn’t be first? Or that there wouldn’t a lot of subjective factors influencing people’s answers? Or that Harvard doesn’t have the largest number of alumni out there?
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 8:57:44 am   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone who did a callback at Gibson DC this week received an offer yet?
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 8:54:31 am   in: Legal Employment
DPW ding yesterday from 8/14 CB
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: ipgeek   on: August 23, at 8:44:45 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone been dinged by Venable yet? I know some offers have gone out already since my own CB, but just trying to gauge if I'm WL or awaiting a ding

CB 8/15, still haven't heard
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 8:40:19 am   in: Legal Employment
Arnold&porter 8/15CB ->8/21offer
White&case 8/19CB ->8/22 offer
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: miskellyjohnson   on: August 23, at 8:36:25 am   in: Choosing a Law School
Why are we back to lumping H in with Y/S again, and why are we comparing H to a weird, unheard-of "N/C/M/P" grouping instead of its closest peers, CCN? This whole thread is stupid, but here we go. QContinum, if you did a survey of legal professionals including big law partners, judges, practicing attorneys, and hiring managers, and asked them each to rank law schools, what do you think ...
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 8:33:18 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Arnold&porter 8/21 offer
White&case 8/22 offer

When did you interview with white and case?
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 8:32:34 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Arnold&porter 8/21 offer
White&case 8/22 offer

Would you mind sharing the date of your Arnold & Porter CB?
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Re: Georgetown OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 8:29:25 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous Questioner wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Officially dinged by Pepper Hamilton (Philly) (screener)
Was it via snail mail/email?

Email
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Re: Cravath vs Paul Weiss vs DPW vs KE (Lit)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 8:29:23 am   in: Legal Employment
Spent 4 years at CSM: PW probably on par with CSM but DPW a slight notch below in terms of litigation. Others will concur on that. Can't weigh in on relative strength between CSM and PW but am a former DPW associate. I wasn't litigation but it was pretty obvious that the lit associates didn't have much to do (at least in terms of the experience that aspiring litigators would want). Corporate folk...
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: ipgeek   on: August 23, at 8:23:43 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone been dinged by Venable yet? I know some offers have gone out already since my own CB, but just trying to gauge if I'm WL or awaiting a ding

I had CB on 8/15 and still have not heard back yet
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GPA on LSAC Academic Summary Report  
  by: fuzzyvoice   on: August 23, at 8:22:19 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I submitted my transcripts and LSAC generated an Academic Summary Report with a cumulative GPA of 3.18 and degree GPA of 3.51. And I'm not satisfied with the results. LSAC's Transcript Summarization states under Grades Excluded from Conversion has the following: "Those given for remedial courses only if the transcript clearly indicates they are remedial." https://www.lsac.org/applying-la...
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Re: White&Case CB -> offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 8:08:41 am   in: Legal Employment
Bump
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Re: What Schools Should I Apply To?  
  by: cavalier1138   on: August 23, at 7:58:12 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Your GPA is very high. With your knowledge, you can apply to any university in the country. But you should think carefully about which university you like. I think you should choose a school closer to home. Throughout your studies you may have problems writing papers, then you can visit the pismen service where you will find all the necessary materials. I think this service will be useful to you ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=234039

Re: What Schools Should I Apply To?  
  by: RuthBeck   on: August 23, at 7:46:26 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Your GPA is very high. With your knowledge, you can apply to any university in the country. But you should think carefully about which university you like. I think you should choose a school closer to home. Throughout your studies you may have problems writing papers, then you can visit the college paper writing service Paperial, where you will find all the necessary materials. I think this servic...
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 7:45:14 am   in: Legal Employment
Arnold&porter 8/21 offer
White&case 8/22 offer
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Re: Nashville Big Law - 2018 Salary Information  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 7:12:10 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Recently received an offer from one of the big 4 and it was lower than I was expecting given the recent increases for starting salary. Does anyone in the market know if there is more compression now that the starting salary has gone up 30k in the last five or so years?


Need more context. Summer? Entry-level? Lateral? Compression actually not the case. 7y/8y are like $210K here now.
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Re: Hawkins: Am I getting to maybe and arguing both sides right?  
  by: nyc2020   on: August 23, at 6:57:02 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
I appreciate that. I’ve definitely felt a bit concerned about my ability to apply the skills discussed in GTM to the cases I’m reading. This didn’t turn out to be a huge time sink (took 20-25m). Basically I was hoping to ease myself into the (new) mental process of imagining and arguing both sides with limited facts. To me, this exercise felt like that tricycle in the park hypo. Of course I don’t ...
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Re: Hawkins: Am I getting to maybe and arguing both sides right?  
  by: cavalier1138   on: August 23, at 5:52:46 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
I would advise taking a breath and remembering that you literally just started school. This is not how you want to practice for exams. First, cases in case books often give very abbreviated fact patterns and include only the relevant information. Your professor won't be so kind. Second, even if you're pretending you never read the opinion, you did. That opinion basically told you both sides of the...
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Re: Am I Being Realistic? And a Few Other Questions.  
  by: cavalier1138   on: August 23, at 5:41:52 am   in: What are my chances?
Well, that was a lot. I'll try to keep the response shorter. First, your list indicates that you're approaching this like undergrad admissions. Quit doing that. There is no such thing as a safety school in law school admissions. There are schools that will get you where you want to go (which you haven't defined very clearly) and schools that won't. The good news is that your numbers make you compe...
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Re: Addendum & Supplement Questions  
  by: enz2103   on: August 23, at 5:34:11 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Don't expect it to move the needle too much (relative to what MyLSN predicts based on your uGPA/LSAT), but if you really have a compelling Why Columbia, include it. A truly compelling Why X can only help (of course, the caveat is it has to be well-written; better to not write a Why X than to submit a bad Why X). Okay. My GPA/LSAT combination, despite being a splitter, seems to have a good record ...
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Re: Where am I competitive for a full ride  
  by: cavalier1138   on: August 23, at 5:31:49 am   in: What are my chances?
Maybe WUSTL, and probably decent chances at places like USC, Emory, etc.

The better question is what school(s) you want to go to for your career goals.
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Re: Admissions chances with a Title IX suspension  
  by: cavalier1138   on: August 23, at 5:29:09 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
For what it's worth, I think I got screwed in the whole thing. That's not worth a whole lot. I imagine a lot of people feel that way after getting caught. There are a few big issues here. First, although the incident occurred in 2015, you were found responsible in 2017. That's pretty damn recent. Second, sexual misconduct is serious, and fortunately, it's something that people have been taking mo...
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Re: Will this course hurt me?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 5:24:56 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
My judges wouldn't have cared if you took sports law; they would have cared if most of the classes on your transcript sounded fluffy, you didn't have sterling grades overall, and/or you did poorly or even meh on Fed Courts (or Admin, as one of my judges was on CADC). Many if not most clerkship applicants I've seen take some fluff courses, or at least fluff-sounding courses. (YLS transcripts have l...
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Re: ITT: Harvard vs. Stanford Battle Royale  
  by: RuthBeck   on: August 23, at 3:54:35 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I think the choice is obvious.
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: Porkypots   on: August 23, at 1:35:42 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Weirdly, I just received my notice of completion letter today. That’s five months from the date I submitted it. Do I really have to wait another 180 days for them to give me a response? Have your employers and references received letters? My friend got approved within 5 months. He said his employers received letters very soon after he submitted the application. I'm guessing those letters are an i...
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: Porkypots   on: August 23, at 1:33:31 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Weirdly, I just received my notice of completion letter today. That’s five months from the date I submitted it. Do I really have to wait another 180 days for them to give me a response? No. I think your case is on an analyst's desk right now. You will likely hear something back in 2-3 weeks, perhaps sooner. If yours is a run-of-the-mill case, most likely you will hear good news. Great. Hopefully ...
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: QContinuum   on: August 23, at 12:39:19 am   in: Choosing a Law School
How huge is this difference really if you’re talking about down the road where people will have also accumulated various experiences? Would someone who is a stellar performer as an attorney who applies for such things down the road but happens to have gone to NYU rather than Harvard really have such a different outcome? How can you isolate the school name from someone’s accomplishments when you’r...
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Re: Boston - Callback to Offer Time Frame  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 23, at 12:11:59 am   in: Legal Employment
Goodwin, CB: Aug 22 morning, offer: Aug 22 evening
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Re: McGuireWoods CB / Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 11:54:36 pm   in: Legal Employment
Any offers for Chicago office?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=302533

Re: McDermott  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 11:51:24 pm   in: Legal Employment

RaceJudicata wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Bumping this! Any news on NY and the turnaround time?

FWIW, I never received a ding after my call back a few years ago. Chicago office, though. But who knows, maybe their thing to keep folks in post call back purgatory.

Do you mind sharing which practice group?
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Re: Harvard vs. Stanford Clerkships  
  by: QContinuum   on: August 22, at 11:44:43 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
It might help putting your advice regarding the schools into context. If you went to Yale or Harvard or Stanford it would make your comments about the schools potentially more credible than if it was second hand. But obviously it's up to you whether you provide that info. You are, of course, free to disagree with me or any other TLSer. But charging into a thread and demanding credentials left and...
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: Moabit   on: August 22, at 11:36:00 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Porkypots wrote:Weirdly, I just received my notice of completion letter today. That’s five months from the date I submitted it. Do I really have to wait another 180 days for them to give me a response?
No. I think your case is on an analyst's desk right now. You will likely hear something back in 2-3 weeks, perhaps sooner. If yours is a run-of-the-mill case, most likely you will hear good news.
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Re: Harvard vs. Stanford Clerkships  
  by: Igloo2022   on: August 22, at 11:21:27 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
It might help putting your advice regarding the schools into context. If you went to Yale or Harvard or Stanford it would make your comments about the schools potentially more credible than if it was second hand. But obviously it's up to you whether you provide that info.
Sorry about reviving the old thread. I didn't notice the date
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BARBRI California Conviser Mini Review  
  by: hopefulCAatty   on: August 22, at 11:20:04 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
For anyone who used BARBRI for the July 2019 CA Bar exam, do you remember if there were CA distinctions in the MBE topics (like Crim Law, Real Property, etc.) in the Conviser Mini Review book? I have the July 2018 edition and only see that there are CA evidence distinctions and CA Civ Pro.
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Re: Recruiting questions specific to SDNY/EDNY goal  
  by: nyc2020   on: August 22, at 10:57:22 pm   in: Legal Employment
Thank you all for your thoughtful responses. Grateful to each of you for the guidance.
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Re: Addendum & Supplement Questions  
  by: QContinuum   on: August 22, at 10:44:15 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I forget whether you have to convert anything to PDF, but every application has a section for additional documents or has an option to directly enter your addendum. So it'll depend on the school and the application layout. Also, don't waste a "Why [X]" on Columbia. Those are more necessary for lower T13 schools, and they're mostly necessary to guard against yield protection, not to boos...
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Re: Should I ED to UCLA? 3.756/171  
  by: QContinuum   on: August 22, at 10:38:41 pm   in: What are my chances?
Honestly, the best advice for your goals would be to apply across the T14 (and add UCLA and USC). That way you can maximize your scholarship and employment numbers. Then get a California 1L summer job and manufacture as many ties as possible. Dcc is correct. OP, I get that you don't have CA ties. But, firms generally don't count attending law school in a state as a legit "tie." So, you ...
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Re: Cravath vs Paul Weiss vs DPW vs KE (Lit)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 10:38:34 pm   in: Legal Employment
Spent 4 years at CSM: PW probably on par with CSM but DPW a slight notch below in terms of litigation. Others will concur on that.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=302567

Am I Being Realistic? And a Few Other Questions.  
  by: ProbablyWaitListed   on: August 22, at 10:33:05 pm   in: What are my chances?
I was hoping I could get a little feedback on my plan for the cycle before things really kick off. Additionally, I’ve got a few questions about the process I haven’t been able to figure out myself. Thanks in advance to anyone who takes a second to skim this and give me their thoughts. My stats are a 171 LSAT and a 3.42 LSAC GPA. Probably meaningless but my GPA has an extreme upward trend and I hav...
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Hawkins: Am I getting to maybe and arguing both sides right?  
  by: nyc2020   on: August 22, at 10:29:57 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
Like everyone, I read GTM this summer. Now I figure that, since classes are starting, I should try to see if I have made any progress in developing the exam skills of (1) identifying first, second, and third-order issues related to fact patterns from cases for class and (2) arguing both sides effectively and to exhaustion. From what I've read here, these are the skills I need to develop to succeed...
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Re: Skadden Delaware  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 10:25:03 pm   in: Legal Employment
I got an offer by phone the morning after my callback, which included a reception that ended around 9 pm. They move at breakneck speed.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=302596

3.8 GPA, 168 LSAT  
  by: Tjam123   on: August 22, at 10:21:19 pm   in: What are my chances?
Non URM, good softs and recs.

Three questions:

1. What are the best schools at which I have a reasonable chance of admission?

2. What are the best schools that might offer considerable scholarships?

3. What are the best schools that might give full scholarships?
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Re: Harvard vs. Stanford Clerkships  
  by: QContinuum   on: August 22, at 10:20:20 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Seconding this. Even at YLS, everyone who wants to clerk doesn’t get to clerk. There really is a degree to which grades matter for clerking, even at the top schools. I’m not saying this is necessarily wrong, but as a counter-point, someone in my class who kind of famously got straight Ps (which is pretty much as poor a transcript as you can have at SLS, we don’t really do the low pass thing) cler...
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Re: Deciding between reapplying and going this fall  
  by: 239840   on: August 22, at 10:10:47 pm   in: Under Represented Law Student Forum
Yes, it's impressive tenacity and I understand why it is hard to give it another go. Most people phone it in after they get a score they think is good enough so it's actually uncommon for those with say a 168 to retake even if it won't really impact when they apply. It's boring to do the same thing over and over when you thought last time would be the last time, and maybe even embarrassing to tel...
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Admissions chances with a Title IX suspension  
  by: Tjam123   on: August 22, at 9:50:00 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
3.8 GPA, 168 LSAT, competitive NESCAC undergrad, looking to apply next cycle Lots of work/volunteer experience, couple leadership positions, good recs In 2017 I was found responsible for sexual misconduct that allegedly occured on campus in 2015. I was suspended for one year/ two semesters. For what it's worth, I think I got screwed in the whole thing. The law school counselor at my university is ...
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Re: Law Librarianship Careers  
  by: Bodhicaryavatara   on: August 22, at 9:16:46 pm   in: Legal Employment
Given that employers emphasize real-world experience and connections above all , would it be helpful for MLIS admissions/my professional advancement in general to get some volunteer experience on the side at a library during this year, since I would be entering in fall 2020? I took a few advanced legal research courses during my JD program taught by Law Librarians and worked at a public library w...
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Re: 3L OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 9:15:28 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Any movement post screener with PW or Latham?
How did you get the screener? Those two firms never posted on my school's simplicity.

Not the poster who asked about callbacks above, but I applied to LW directly by sending my resume/transcript to recruiting (SoCal), did my screener a week later and got invited for a CB a little less than a week after that.
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Re: When Are Associates Pushed Out?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 9:13:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
What firms are more "up or out" for junior and mid-level associates? It seems like some firms will let associates stay until they are a super-senior, while others push out associates much earlier.
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Re: Harvard vs. Stanford Clerkships  
  by: Igloo2022   on: August 22, at 9:01:36 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Seconding this. Even at YLS, everyone who wants to clerk doesn’t get to clerk. There really is a degree to which grades matter for clerking, even at the top schools. I’m not saying this is necessarily wrong, but as a counter-point, someone in my class who kind of famously got straight Ps (which is pretty much as poor a transcript as you can have at SLS, we don’t really do the low pass thing) cler...
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Re: Denver OCI  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 8:42:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
Update: I just got hit up for a screener from Sherman & Howard, so v slow moving. I don't think I'm gonna take it because I already have offers (not in Denver though). OP reach out! Call the recruiting coordinator and ask!
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Re: Simpson v. PW v. GDC for NY corporate?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 8:40:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
If you are doing corporate work and you are being influenced by your politics, you are going to have a rough time once you start working. You don’t pick and choose your clients and you certainly don’t get to filter them based on their politics. There is absolutely no distinction between the politics of the corporate clients of someone like PW or Gibson. From the moment you set foot in the office t...
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Re: 3L OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 8:40:21 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Any movement post screener with PW or Latham?
How did you get the screener? Those two firms never posted on my school's simplicity.
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Re: Simpson v. PW v. GDC for NY corporate?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 8:36:37 pm   in: Legal Employment
Simpson.

If you are interested in M&A, STB > PW >> GDC
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Re: Foley Hoag - Timeline  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 8:34:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
No :/
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Re: McDermott  
  by: Chrstgtr   on: August 22, at 8:32:10 pm   in: Legal Employment

RaceJudicata wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Bumping this! Any news on NY and the turnaround time?

FWIW, I never received a ding after my call back a few years ago. Chicago office, though. But who knows, maybe their thing to keep folks in post call back purgatory.

This happened to me with a massmail to Skadden before OCI. Then I got an email 2 years later when I was studying for the bar asking me if I wanted to do a callback
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Re: What is actual take home pay for DC biglaw?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 8:22:33 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm about to start at as a first year in DC and I'm trying to plan for a budget while I have the time off.I've seen a few threads discussing NYC biglaw but there isn't much info for DC. Since the taxes are slightly different, can anyone chime in on what their take home pay is for DC big law (with or without 401K, HSA, ect.) Keep in mind that your personal tax situation may differ from others (mar...
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Simpson v. PW v. GDC for NY corporate?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 8:19:36 pm   in: Legal Employment
Hello,

Hate to make one of these threads but I’m having a really tough time deciding. STB is obviously great, but PW is growing. Also considering GDC, even though I’m left leaning because I liked the people I met there. Any thoughts?
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Re: Harvard vs. Stanford Clerkships  
  by: Igloo2022   on: August 22, at 8:04:37 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
It sounds like you'd rather go to Harvard. That's great, just go to Harvard. But you should absolutely not assume you're going to do "better' at Harvard than Stanford because you were admitted to Stanford and it's more selective. Law school exam success is correlated to LSAT and GPA in broad strokes - like if your score is 10 points higher than someone else's yeah, you're probably smarter th...
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Re: If you could go to any Houston transactional firm, which one would you go to?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 7:56:24 pm   in: Legal Employment
As for the supposed junior from KE, I am not sure I believe you are actually at the firm as its unclear how you could have had really low hours over the last few months. The activity hasn’t been as crazy as it was a year or two ago, but there has been a lot to work on. Sounds plausible for the funds group from what I've heard - at least the very negative experience, and possibly the quieter hours...
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Re: 172 / 3.9 GPA Undergraduate HYS Chances  
  by: Veil of Ignorance   on: August 22, at 7:55:36 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I think it's incorrect to say that HLS is easier to get into than SLS. Applicants with a 169/170 are basically auto-rejects at HLS this year, while they have a shot at SLS if their GPAs are perfect. It is true, however, true that HLS may sacrifice a bit in terms of "softs" to get an LSAT median that is much higher than SLS. HLS is easier to get into for most applicants because it follow...
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Where am I competitive for a full ride  
  by: Dingus69   on: August 22, at 7:51:39 pm   in: What are my chances?
Hi all,

What ranking of schools would I be competitive for a full ride with these stats/background?

- LSAT: 169
- Undergrad GPA: 3.8
- MA in Philosophy
- 3 years of teaching history at a high poverty public high school school
- Some activist background and an interest in public interest law

Thanks gang,
Dingus
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 7:47:45 pm   in: Legal Employment
Interviewed with K&E on 8/13, have not heard back. Any info on offers or dings?
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Re: Will this course hurt me?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 7:47:27 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Current clerk here - I took sports law and have never had any indication it was an issue. I didn’t have a ton of classes like those on my transcript so my impression is nobody noticed or cared. (And I didn’t take fed courts, advanced lit, or several other “mandatory” clerking classes.)
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Re: Will this course hurt me?  
  by: nixy   on: August 22, at 7:45:51 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
There may be one or two judges who think it's a fluff course, but there will doubtless also be one or two judges (probably more) who think it sounds really interesting (along with other judges who don't even glance at your schedule). Even more judges will only care as it fits into your complete transcript (so if you had no core/black letter/traditional clerkship courses they might have a problem w...
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: yespasscbx   on: August 22, at 7:41:30 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Weirdly, I just received my notice of completion letter today. That’s five months from the date I submitted it. Do I really have to wait another 180 days for them to give me a response? Have your employers and references received letters? My friend got approved within 5 months. He said his employers received letters very soon after he submitted the application. I'm guessing those letters are an i...
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Re: Will this course hurt me?  
  by: Dcc617   on: August 22, at 7:39:48 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Why do you think it would hurt you?
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Will this course hurt me?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 7:32:30 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Looking to potentially change my class schedule. I'm registered for "Sports Law in Comparative Perspective," but I overheard that it might look bad on clerkship applications to have Sports Law in my 2L schedule. I love the professor (plan to ask for a recommendation) and think the course will be fascinating. It's not what you'd think of when you hear "Sports law" but a comparat...
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Re: Am I crazy? Stanford Waitlist Acceptance vs. Berkeley ($$$)  
  by: dabigchina   on: August 22, at 7:30:57 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
While I understand a healthy fear of debt, it's not material compared to the likely lifetime earnings of a Stanford graduate. It's true that either may end up in the same place, but Stanford may offer more possibilities for a future career. There is almost zero risk of a Stanford grad striking out at OCI, but that risk certainly exists at Berkely (even if not terribly high). Don't worry about the...
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 7:27:34 pm   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone else been waiting ages to hear from DPW. CB 8/13 and still haven’t heard anything. Seems that some people who have had callbacks since have both been dinged and received offers. Anyone else in the same boat? Same here. CB 8/14 and radio silence since. But at least no news is better than official ding I guess Nice to know there’s someone in the same boat! Are you planning on checking in...
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Re: Any movement from Kellogg Hansen for Summer 2020?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 7:27:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
Snail mail ding today
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Re: Georgetown OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous Questioner   on: August 22, at 7:25:49 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Officially dinged by Pepper Hamilton (Philly) (screener)
Was it via snail mail/email?
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Re: Any movement from Kellogg Hansen for Summer 2020?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 7:21:55 pm   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone actually gotten a callback? What's the timeline from CB to offer?
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Re: 3L OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 7:16:03 pm   in: Legal Employment
Any movement post screener with PW or Latham?
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Re: Penn Law OCI 2019  
  by: DXT   on: August 22, at 7:03:37 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Curious why PH over DM?

No particular reason ... actually I was very interested in DM’s Bankruptcy group ... by the time I received the callback I had already accepted PH’s offer

Separately — I just received Skadden DE ding, I fee a little bit demoralized actually ... anyway life goes on
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Re: LA / SoCal OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 7:02:59 pm   in: Legal Employment
Any recent movement from Gibson Dunn or Jones Day Orange County?
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 6:56:27 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:News from K&E 8/19 CBs?

Bump. Nothing so far.

Thirding this bump. I'm guessing it's a ding at this point?

CB 8/19--> Ding 8/21 via morning email

CB 8/12 and still radio silence so far. Not sure if it’s a ding at this point.
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Re: Fordham Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 6:55:06 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Reginajin wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
branchesofyew wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Anybody heard from Jones Day-Patent?

No

CB Wednesday morning

Any other patent cb released? So far it seems Venable, Jones day have sent patent cb.

haug partners CB

Did you have your Haug interview? Did you get an offer yet?
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Re: DC Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 6:55:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
Williams & Connolly?
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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 6:46:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone gotten an offer from King & Spalding? I know someone who got a rejection in the mail and I didn't receive one, but it's been exactly two weeks since my CB so I kinda think my rejection just got lost in the mail or something.
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 6:41:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone else been waiting ages to hear from DPW. CB 8/13 and still haven’t heard anything. Seems that some people who have had callbacks since have both been dinged and received offers. Anyone else in the same boat? Same here. CB 8/14 and radio silence since. But at least no news is better than official ding I guess Nice to know there’s someone in the same boat! Are you planning on checking in...
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Re: What exactly does Harvard Law look for in resume?  
  by: QContinuum   on: August 22, at 6:39:21 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
On a related note, I've never been convinced that the "YSH" lumping makes sense. A more accurate grouping would be Yale, then Stanford, then Harvard/Chicago, then Columbia/NYU, in terms of prestige and placement power. Harvard is a terrific, top-notch school, but by no means is it interchangeable with Yale or Stanford. IMO it's a hair above Chicago (just as Columbia's a hair above NYU),...
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 6:34:44 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Any new info on Kramer timelines? Saw one that was a 3 day turnaround, wondering if anybody else has heard.

2 business day turnaround for me. CB last Thursday, offer this Monday.

hhhnnnnggggghhhh i interviewed on Monday and was hoping for good news today
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Re: Bluebook Case Citation Cheat Sheet  
  by: cavalier1138   on: August 22, at 6:29:05 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
No offense, but isn't this literally what the Bluebook already says about case citations? I'm failing to see the utility.
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 6:23:03 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone else been waiting ages to hear from DPW. CB 8/13 and still haven’t heard anything. Seems that some people who have had callbacks since have both been dinged and received offers. Anyone else in the same boat?

Same here. CB 8/14 and radio silence since. But at least no news is better than official ding I guess
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 6:09:17 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:News from K&E 8/19 CBs?

Bump. Nothing so far.

Thirding this bump. I'm guessing it's a ding at this point?

CB 8/19--> Ding 8/21 via morning email
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Re: McDermott  
  by: RaceJudicata   on: August 22, at 6:06:50 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Bumping this! Any news on NY and the turnaround time?

FWIW, I never received a ding after my call back a few years ago. Chicago office, though. But who knows, maybe their thing to keep folks in post call back purgatory.
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 6:04:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
Have any Willkie offers come more than a day after the CB?
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Re: Boston - Callback to Offer Time Frame  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 5:59:42 pm   in: Legal Employment
Ropes CB: 8/12
Ropes Offer: 8/22
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Re: What is actual take home pay for DC biglaw?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 5:58:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm about to start at as a first year in DC and I'm trying to plan for a budget while I have the time off.I've seen a few threads discussing NYC biglaw but there isn't much info for DC. Since the taxes are slightly different, can anyone chime in on what their take home pay is for DC big law (with or without 401K, HSA, ect.) Keep in mind that your personal tax situation may differ from others (mar...
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Re: Sidley CB --> Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 5:53:34 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:I'm in the same boat. It's been a week and I'm not hopeful given that my peers have had 1 day turnarounds.

I feel you. I've tried asking for a timeline a couple of times over the past week and a half due to other offers, but I haven't gotten any response :/
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Re: Jones Day CB --> Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 5:46:05 pm   in: Legal Employment
CB Friday morning -> offer Wednesday morning. My friend got their offer at the end of their interview.

Two different offices, both Midwest.
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 5:44:04 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:News from K&E 8/19 CBs?

Bump. Nothing so far.

Thirding this bump. I'm guessing it's a ding at this point?
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Re: Sidley CB --> Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 5:37:11 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm in the same boat. It's been a week and I'm not hopeful given that my peers have had 1 day turnarounds.
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Re: Penn Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 5:37:08 pm   in: Legal Employment
Curious why PH over DM?
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Re: Jones Day CB --> Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 5:34:56 pm   in: Legal Employment
What office? I interviewed with Atl and I got my offer after about a week and a half.
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Re: Jones Day CB --> Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 5:33:12 pm   in: Legal Employment
I interviewed earlier this week and got an offer the next afternoon. No idea what their typical timeline is, though!
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Re: Taking any/all advice, suggestions and direction  
  by: peachtree   on: August 22, at 5:18:52 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Yes yes, I will def. keep in touch. Sending good vibes to you, and let's get this exam over with once and for all in September!
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Re: Surprised by higher score: advice?  
  by: LSATWiz.com   on: August 22, at 5:11:19 pm   in: What are my chances?
Oh, you really do just blanket the T-14?! I read a while back about people doing that. Ok.. makes sense... that's definitely straight forward. Am I right in thinking that even in the t-14 there's a vastly different approach to merit based scholarships? I'm pretty sure I've seen that Berkeley is quite stingy no matter what, for example. Yeah, I'd avoid committing early in the cycle. You might find...
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Jones Day CB --> Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 5:01:51 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anybody have any sense of the timeline on this? Interviewed earlier this week, and callback invite gave me the sense that it could take a while in general.
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Re: Surprised by higher score: advice?  
  by: pnl   on: August 22, at 4:59:59 pm   in: What are my chances?
Oh, you really do just blanket the T-14?! I read a while back about people doing that. Ok.. makes sense... that's definitely straight forward.

Am I right in thinking that even in the t-14 there's a vastly different approach to merit based scholarships? I'm pretty sure I've seen that Berkeley is quite stingy no matter what, for example.
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Re: White&Case CB -> offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:59:32 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:also DC on Wednesday. they said 1 week
thx I forgot to ask

They had told me rolling, interesting.
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Re: Latham CB --> Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:59:23 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:If you get an offer you'll get a very nice Klean Kanteen thermos in the mail, probably the nicest swag I've gotten. They're also having an offer dinner a couple of weeks after OCI at least at my school (CCN).

What was the timeline for you to get an offer after CB?
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Re: Georgetown OCI 2019  
  by: Utopia44   on: August 22, at 4:58:31 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone hear positive news post Cooley callback or know people who have?
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: Porkypots   on: August 22, at 4:54:11 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Weirdly, I just received my notice of completion letter today. That’s five months from the date I submitted it. Do I really have to wait another 180 days for them to give me a response?
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Re: Latham CB --> Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:53:50 pm   in: Legal Employment
If you get an offer you'll get a very nice Klean Kanteen thermos in the mail, probably the nicest swag I've gotten. They're also having an offer dinner a couple of weeks after OCI at least at my school (CCN).
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Re: Surprised by higher score: advice?  
  by: The Lsat Airbender   on: August 22, at 4:51:41 pm   in: What are my chances?
Yeah, this isn't complicated. Blanket the T14 - write the Why X's for Penn and Duke and UVA - and you'll get some great offers.
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Gibson Dunn CB --> Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:46:53 pm   in: Legal Employment
Particularly interested in DC. It looks like they used to do same-day offers but no longer do. I've heard one account of a two-day wait from someone who got an offer already and "it varies, but within a week" from an atty.
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:46:44 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Any new info on Kramer timelines? Saw one that was a 3 day turnaround, wondering if anybody else has heard.

2 business day turnaround for me. CB last Thursday, offer this Monday.
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Re: HLS EIP 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:46:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone not heard back from DPW after waiting well over a week? Still waiting following 8/13 CB
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=301691

Re: Recruiting Troubles (Would I be an asshole?)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:44:42 pm   in: Legal Employment
just say you had a great experience with X firm and really appreciate the offer, but you think you'd fit better at Y firm. do you think the hiring partner gives straight answers when he rejects candidates? no.
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Re: Recruiting Troubles (Would I be an asshole?)  
  by: hoos89   on: August 22, at 4:40:57 pm   in: Legal Employment
Why would you do that? There is literally nothing for you to gain, and you potentially risk coming off like a bit of a jerk.
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Re: Latham CB --> Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:40:35 pm   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone interviewed with NY office this week heard back yet?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=302634

Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:39:54 pm   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone else been waiting ages to hear from DPW. CB 8/13 and still haven’t heard anything. Seems that some people who have had callbacks since have both been dinged and received offers. Anyone else in the same boat?
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Re: DC Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:38:58 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:White and Case?

Reportedly moving slowly (a week) from the White & Case CB --> Offer thread.
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Bluebook Case Citation Cheat Sheet  
  by: legaleasetech   on: August 22, at 4:35:34 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
Hey guys, I wanted to share a Bluebook case citation guide I put together. The guide explains the common elements of federal and state Bluebook court case citations. I included examples, explanations and diagrams throughout. Hope it helps!

https://legaleasecitations.com/blog/the-ultimate-bluebook-case-citation-guide
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Re: Latham CB --> Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:34:22 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:I can only speak to the DC office. Based on my own experience (1 day turnaround), what others have posted here and the experiences of my peers at one of HYS, the DC office is moving quickly, often giving same day offers.

I got an offer within six hours. If you've been waiting for more than two business days I'd mentally prepare for a ding.
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Re: White&Case CB -> offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:32:53 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone interviewed with NYC office heard any thing?
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Re: Am I crazy? Stanford Waitlist Acceptance vs. Berkeley ($$$)  
  by: The Lsat Airbender   on: August 22, at 4:24:35 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
I in no way think you’re crazy for favoring Berkeley, but if you’re serious about public interest, make sure you’re familiar with the schools’ LRAP programs. Stanford’s is elite, Berkeley’s is fine for a top school but not in standord’s ballpark, and in my recollection, pretty much dependent on PSLF. With Berkeley, it might not be an issue at your debt load. There are situations in which a higher...
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Sidley CB --> Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:24:09 pm   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone heard from Sidley this week? It's been over 2 weeks since my CB, and I'm waiting for that ding.
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Re: Latham CB --> Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:22:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
I can only speak to the DC office. Based on my own experience (1 day turnaround), what others have posted here and the experiences of my peers at one of HYS, the DC office is moving quickly, often giving same day offers.
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Re: White&Case CB -> offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:20:19 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone hear back from Boston? Had a CB 2 weeks ago and radio silence since. Presuming a ding is coming, just not sure when.
Same, except NY. Heard people getting dings who CBed before and after me. Maybe we are waitlisted?
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Re: Am I crazy? Stanford Waitlist Acceptance vs. Berkeley ($$$)  
  by: we'rebothmenofthelaw   on: August 22, at 4:18:05 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
I in no way think you’re crazy for favoring Berkeley, but if you’re serious about public interest, make sure you’re familiar with the schools’ LRAP programs. Stanford’s is elite, Berkeley’s is fine for a top school but not in standord’s ballpark, and in my recollection, pretty much dependent on PSLF. With Berkeley, it might not be an issue at your debt load. There are situations in which a higher ...
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Latham CB --> Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:17:48 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone CB last week or this week heard anything from Latham?
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Re: Recruiting Troubles (Would I be an asshole?)  
  by: soft blue   on: August 22, at 4:16:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
Is that so? I've had really excellent experiences with recruiters at every other firm I wanted to do a second look at. (They were reasonably prompt, they connected me with people in my practice group, etc.) I guess I got lucky.

I appreciate the advice, this definitely was not the primary reason I decided against this firm. But it felt noteworthy to me.
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Re: White&Case CB -> offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:14:46 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:also DC on Wednesday. they said 1 week
thx I forgot to ask
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Re: White&Case CB -> offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:09:58 pm   in: Legal Employment
also DC on Wednesday. they said 1 week
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Re: White&Case CB -> offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:05:11 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone hear back from Boston? Had a CB 2 weeks ago and radio silence since. Presuming a ding is coming, just not sure when.
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Re: Gibson vs. Latham vs. MoFo  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 4:00:24 pm   in: Legal Employment
I believe you get an interior office as a second year (not sure, I work in a different latham office, but I know for a fact that my classmates in SF still do not have offices). I'm frankly impressed they managed it hide it from you guys at interviews. If you are curious about what they look like, ask to see the 19th floor if and when you do your touchbacks. I cancelled my callback there so I neve...
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Re: Wardrobe emergency-can I wear business casual to a callback?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 3:51:10 pm   in: Legal Employment

QContinuum wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Thanks to both of you. I do have a couple of other offers I'd be fine taking but really like this firm as well. Jacket it is, then.
Congrats on your offers and godspeed at your callback!

Thank you! I felt pretty good about it. Keeping my expectations in check of course, but I had fun and I'm excited about the firm. Felt appropriately dressed in my full skirt suit lol.
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Re: Recruiting Troubles (Would I be an asshole?)  
  by: barkschool   on: August 22, at 3:45:10 pm   in: Legal Employment
The meat and potatoes folks in recruiting offices within big law firms (who do all of the scheduling and tasks that involve the kind of interaction you described) are usually folks a year or two out of college without much experience. Ive run into that at several different firms both in getting hired and in practice. I know those things seem like personal slights in that they didn’t hold you in a ...
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Re: Surprised by higher score: advice?  
  by: dabigchina   on: August 22, at 3:45:05 pm   in: What are my chances?
what guidance do you need?

step 1: look at US News law school rankings
step 2: apply to the top 13-14 of those schools
step 3: ?????
step 4: profit.
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Re: Should I ED to UCLA? 3.756/171  
  by: dabigchina   on: August 22, at 3:40:51 pm   in: What are my chances?
with those numbers, i'd be shocked if UCLA didn't throw you a full (or close to full) scholly even if applied regular decision.

apply broadly. you're not missing anything by keeping your options open.
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Re: DC Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 3:39:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
Any news from Paul Hastings?
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Re: Recruiting Troubles (Would I be an asshole?)  
  by: Tx878   on: August 22, at 3:37:15 pm   in: Legal Employment
I kind of agree about the whiny thing. And that it is an expectation in the industry. I'm not saying that this recruiter doesn't seem incompetent or that you shouldn't see your experience as being negative but I definitely ran into pretty much all of these issues during recruiting.
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NYC - DLA Piper vs. Holland & Knight  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 3:32:43 pm   in: Legal Employment
I have SA offers from both in NYC. For DLA, I would specifically be assigned to litigation. At H&K I would have more flexibility. I have an interest in litigation but am not dead set - flexibility could be a good thing. Both SA classes are pretty small, and I liked the people I met at both. H&K felt like it would be a little more "humane" as far as big law goes (I have paralegal ...
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: dabigchina   on: August 22, at 3:30:22 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
oh boy! this pointless discussion again. hot take: going to law school is a fundamentally emotion-driven decision. That goes double so if you need to pay sticker and need to slave away in biglaw for 3-6 years while saving very little money to pay off that debt. stuff that doesn't matter, like prestige, matters the most to your average 0L. Otherwise, they'd have gone to a coding bootcamp/gotten a d...
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Re: Recruiting Troubles (Would I be an asshole?)  
  by: dabigchina   on: August 22, at 3:29:14 pm   in: Legal Employment
incompetent recruiters are kind of the expectation in the industry. I personally think you'd come off as kind of whiny if you did.
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 3:28:23 pm   in: Legal Employment
any news from Kasowitz?
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Re: Yet Another "Help Me Choose" Thread (NYC Biglaw)  
  by: dabigchina   on: August 22, at 3:23:01 pm   in: Legal Employment
If you are interested in lateralling to Silicon Valley, that's a big plus for Goodwin. They are probably the best regarded non-indigenous firm in the valley. I've also heard positive things about their culture (at least in SF/SV).

I literally have never heard of Kramer Levin's practice out here.
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Re: White&Case CB -> offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 3:22:06 pm   in: Legal Employment
Interviewed in DC Wednesday, nothing here. Can update when i hear something.
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Re: White&Case CB -> offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 3:16:37 pm   in: Legal Employment
Interviewed on Tuesday, no word yet
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 3:14:45 pm   in: Legal Employment
Skadden: CB 8/16, Ding 8/19
Davis Polk: CB 8/19, Ding 8/22
Orrick: CB 8/20, Ding 8/21
S&C: CB 8/21, Offer 8/22

It's been a wild ride so far, folks
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Jenner CB —> Offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 3:13:05 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone hear of offers going out recently from the NY office? I interviewed more than a week ago and haven't heard. Can't find much info on here about the usual CB-->offer timeline. I was told that the decision might take some time, but wondering if by now I should be losing hope. Not sure if it's appropriate to follow up, since it's been less than two weeks and I don't have any deadlines immediate...
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Re: Georgetown OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 3:13:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
MoFo DC corporate specific ding today
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=301671

Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 3:12:25 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone heard from Seward & Kissel this week?
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Re: Recruiting Troubles (Would I be an asshole?)  
  by: papermateflair   on: August 22, at 3:11:09 pm   in: Legal Employment
I wouldn't say anything about the recruiters - odds are the partner already knows about the problem, and either can't do anything about it (no one is going to fire the recruiter regardless) or there were extenuating circumstances you don't know about, so you're better off not mentioning it.
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Re: White&Case CB -> offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 3:06:05 pm   in: Legal Employment
op here, white and case
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Re: Recruiting Troubles (Would I be an asshole?)  
  by: didntretake   on: August 22, at 3:04:07 pm   in: Legal Employment
Just say something generic and nice and move on with your life.
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Re: Georgetown OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 3:02:10 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Fried Frank NY, callback 8/15, ding 8/19 T_T

Sorry to hear! Is it email ding? Thanks!

Yes, it is
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Re: Richards Layton Finger OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 2:59:48 pm   in: Legal Employment
Bump
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: cavalier1138   on: August 22, at 2:53:49 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
It would be fairly easy to do the empirical work if you wanted to. I'm sure you can also compare/contrast statistics kept by the various schools' Career Services offices. Or you can look at the websites of unicorn positions, academic positions, governments, etc. How rigorous all this is will be a function of how rigorous you want to make it -- the general principle, even if it's an empirical one,...
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 2:52:24 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm an associate who was a KE Scholar. I suspect that "yield protection," in the sense of "there's no way we are getting this kid, so why spend the effort" happens sometimes. Firms that are plenty decent but not as well known as KE/Sidley/Mayer/etc. may hesitate to spend all the time and resources on a callback process if they think somebody is getting 10 offers and their firm ...
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Re: Georgetown OCI 2019  
  by: orangatang   on: August 22, at 2:50:56 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Xferburner wrote:has anybody heard back from - either ding or CB

Holland Knight - DC
Carlton Fields - DC
Foley - DC
Sul-Crom - DC
Eversheds - DC
Orrick - DC
Baker Botts - DC

thanks (:
Not at GULC but Baker Botts DC has sent out offers.

S&C offers have all gone out for DC

how do you know that S&C DC offers have all gone out? (Had CB interview earlier this week and am anxiously waiting to hear back)
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Re: W&C CB -> offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 2:50:32 pm   in: Legal Employment
Williams or White and Case?
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Re: What is actual take home pay for DC biglaw?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 2:50:10 pm   in: Legal Employment
$4200-4700 bimonthly when I was making $190k in DC. This was: (1) pre Trump tax bill; (2) including 401k contribution that allowed me to max my contribution to my 401k over the course of a year; (3) no healthcare deduction; (4) including Social Security tax (ie hadn’t hit the cap yet).
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Re: New York Law Course/Exam (NYLC/NYLE)  
  by: mtf612   on: August 22, at 2:42:21 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Reviving this dead thread.

Anyone else suffering through these videos? I thought the Family Law I lectures were bad, only to be impressed by the way the lecturer in Family Law II kept pretending he read through the outline - but clearly was just teaching whatever he wanted to teach
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Re: anyone heard back from these ip firms?  
  by: PeanutsNJam   on: August 22, at 2:36:11 pm   in: Legal Employment

bana79 wrote:Oci with “knob” (which is how I pronounced their name smh) 1.5 weeks ago, no response.

Their name is pronounced "Kenobi" like in Star Wars, so if you said "Knob" in an interview I wouldn't have high hopes for a callback.
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 2:33:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
Y’all are killing me.

What has Katten (Chicago)’s timeline been from CB -> offer?
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 2:18:56 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anything from Epstein NY this week?
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Re: anyone heard back from these ip firms?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 2:12:42 pm   in: Legal Employment
Had a Knobbe callback last week. No response since then.
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White&Case CB -> offer  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 2:06:20 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone heard from this week's cb?
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Re: What is actual take home pay for DC biglaw?  
  by: nealric   on: August 22, at 2:04:15 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm about to start at as a first year in DC and I'm trying to plan for a budget while I have the time off.I've seen a few threads discussing NYC biglaw but there isn't much info for DC. Since the taxes are slightly different, can anyone chime in on what their take home pay is for DC big law (with or without 401K, HSA, ect.) Keep in mind that your personal tax situation may differ from others (mar...
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 2:04:09 pm   in: Legal Employment
A theory that might explain what both sides see going on here is interest playing a key role in hiring. Would firms not offer someone despite having great grades + being someone you want to work with if they felt the candidate wasn't interested in the firm specifically? (e.g. having a bad answer for "why this firm," targeting a secondary market without good ties, etc)
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Re: Schools better for a career in M&A  
  by: nealric   on: August 22, at 1:59:45 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
Hi all, I just joined TLS forum. My goal for attending law school is that I want to work on cross-border M&As. Assuming that there is no scholarship, and I won't be able to score 175+. Should I focus on schools on the east coast, e.g. NYU, Columbia, Cornell, Duke, Georgetown... instead of UC Berkeley/UCLA? (My general observation is that east coast programs are more international. Please corr...
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: nealric   on: August 22, at 1:57:44 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
I'm not sure this is as big of a problem as OP makes it out to be. Lay prestige may favor Harvard, but that doesn't mean most competitive applicants do. Most people who can get in anywhere will choose Yale or Stanford over Harvard barring a strong geographic restriction. If you don't get into Yale or Stanford, Harvard tends to have a less idiosyncratic admissions process, so you are likely to get ...
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Re: McDermott  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 1:51:24 pm   in: Legal Employment
Bumping this! Any news on NY and the turnaround time?
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 1:50:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
Any info on McDermott NY CB to offer/ding timeline? Interviewed on Monday and haven't heard anything yet...know LA and Chi have extended offers within a day.
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Re: Georgetown OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 1:47:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
What's the last anybody has heard from Skadden Wilmington? I've heard of CBs and dings but I'm ghosted.
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: LawSchoolLA23   on: August 22, at 1:46:52 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely get that Harvard opens a lot of doors. People are very lucky (and/or good) to go there. I’m just not convinced that there’s a “huge” difference between it and its closest competitors, and think that people parse this kind of ranking WAY more finely than is really worth it. Again, a difference? Sure. A “huge” difference? I don’t buy that, but maybe we have differen...
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Re: Taking any/all advice, suggestions and direction  
  by: Shredzeppelin240   on: August 22, at 1:46:50 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hi OP, I've been following this thread since the first day you posted and you have been so inspiring. Thank you for sharing this with us. I didn't do as well as you in July but taking the digital for the first time with visual and hearing distractions really got me I think. I was PTing high 160s and low 170s and I ended up with a 159. I know, it's really bad but to be honest it was better than wh...
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 1:45:06 pm   in: Legal Employment
Any new info on Kramer timelines? Saw one that was a 3 day turnaround, wondering if anybody else has heard.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=302370

Recruiting Troubles (Would I be an asshole?)  
  by: soft blue   on: August 22, at 1:44:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
I recently made my decision and let some other firms know that I declined my offers there. A partner at one of the firms who I had a great interview with and had been "recruiting me" (sent me an email or two and offered to connect me to others at the firm) sent an email wishing me well, asking where I'd ended up, and asking why I decided to go elsewhere. I didn't choose that firm for a v...
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Re: Georgetown OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 1:32:26 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone get an offer from Arent post-CBs?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=301671

Re: Reed Smith CB (8/14)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 1:31:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
Reed Smith Chi ding just now via email (CB 8/8).
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: DoveBodyWash   on: August 22, at 1:28:13 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
Legally Blonde and Suits.
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Re: Any movement from Kellogg Hansen for Summer 2020?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 1:26:16 pm   in: Legal Employment
I got a rejection letter in the mail today (no callback). Not particularly competitive for them so it wasn’t a surprise.
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Re: Strikeout Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 1:15:49 pm   in: Legal Employment
Obligatory advice to all to remember to blanket NYC (especially all of the large class-size firms) and any secondary markets where you have plausible ties. If your bidlist was heavily oriented toward a non-NYC market, now's the time to mass-mail NYC stat. 100% right. It's not over folks, follow this advice. Some offices will be scrambling to get people August and even into September since their c...
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Re: Booked Vacation Prior to Lateraling to a New Firm  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 1:08:10 pm   in: Legal Employment
Take the vacation and just have that as your main taken vacation for the year of 2020.
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Re: DC Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 1:08:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
Any GDC that interviewed this week?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=302495

Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 1:01:58 pm   in: Legal Employment
It seems that most of the denialists are confused and think the allegation is that it’s at the callback stage. That’s obviously wrong. There hasn’t been any convincing evidence that the abundant evidence supporting YP (the DC data, NY data in previous TLS threads, the experiences of most of the students and many of the practitioners in this thread) is wrong.
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Re: DC Offers 2019  
  by: jambajuicepapoose   on: August 22, at 12:55:31 pm   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone received an Orrick offer yet?
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 12:53:31 pm   in: Legal Employment
Ding - Mayer Brown. Some Chicago firms are definitely yield protecting, but tbh they're right in my case, I wouldn't have worked there. If I had done really poorly with the very selective firms for some reason this would be quite a scary OCI though! There's no such thing as yield protecting in OCI. firms don't have to report yield for SA offers. There's a huge amount of yield protection. I think ...
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Re: gpa for cum laude at GW?  
  by: totesTheGoat   on: August 22, at 12:49:54 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
Glad we have the anon feature to shield such sensitive legal employment info. As I had explained to me recently, outing isn't supposed to be used if there is any chance of tracking identifying info back to a username. That includes school affiliation, especially for currently attending students. Personally, I think the rule is a bit lax, but I'm not the boss. That post was from 2012 :lol: Lol, th...
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 12:49:26 pm   in: Legal Employment
Any Latham movement from last week?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=302370

Re: Strikeout Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 12:49:24 pm   in: Legal Employment
Bottom T-14 sitting a bit below median here. Did well enough second semester to cover up the first semester abomination. W/E in investment finance and close ended mutual funds, targeting mainly New York and Boston. I have had 4 CBs with no rejections, but have not heard back in over a week from three firms. The weird thing is that I'm not getting as much interest from transactional spots as I expe...
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Re: Boston - Callback to Offer Time Frame  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 12:42:26 pm   in: Legal Employment

aburin12819 wrote:
rosscobally wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:CB at Sidley 8/13, rejected today after sending an email yesterday saying they were top choice. Feels bad man.

sorry to hear that keep at it though!

Also was it a personalized email? I'm in an eerily similar position but yet to receive the likely ding

Nope. It was a form email that actually rejected me from the NY office, haha.
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Re: 3.27 uGPA/161 LSAT/first-gen nonURM/currently Patent Agent in BigLaw  
  by: LSATWiz.com   on: August 22, at 12:29:30 pm   in: What are my chances?
Every admissions office in every field says they take a holistic approach, because that's the language the Supreme Court used and also because it sounds much better than saying their admissions process is a numbers game. To some extent it's true, but really only at the margins. The fact you could perform well in a demanding job and have a phD is admirable, but isn't really unique enough to be wor...
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Re: Boston - Callback to Offer Time Frame  
  by: aburin12819   on: August 22, at 12:20:48 pm   in: Legal Employment

rosscobally wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:CB at Sidley 8/13, rejected today after sending an email yesterday saying they were top choice. Feels bad man.

sorry to hear that keep at it though!

Also was it a personalized email? I'm in an eerily similar position but yet to receive the likely ding
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: nixy   on: August 22, at 12:07:35 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
I’m just not really convinced that Harvard’s larger class sizes and people tending to see what they expect to see aren’t influencing things here, unless someone can actually provide statistics rather than an unsubstantiated conviction as to what those statistics are. Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely get that Harvard opens a lot of doors. People are very lucky (and/or good) to go there. I’m just no...
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Re: NY Firm Choice  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 12:07:25 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm the anon you're disagreeing with who considered Akin for a non-corporate practice in NY. Kim Koopersmith does have offices in NYC/DC, but it's a question of where the firm's power is / where decisions are being made. Akin TX definitely is a major power center of the firm, which is different from a lot of NYC shops. I don't know how to evaluate Akin's deal flow, but I know that people can hit h...
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Re: Strikeout Thread  
  by: Res Ipsa Loquitter   on: August 22, at 12:05:54 pm   in: Legal Employment
Median, lower T14 w/ substantial WE, 21 screeners, 2 CBs, 1 rejection, 1 still pending. So far, I’m highly unimpressed with the OCI process and with the effectiveness of the “prestige” of the T14. Your school did get you in front of 21 biglaw firms. That's their end of the deal. But you should still interview like you're a TT student who's thrilled to have gotten the screener. Don't count on scho...
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Re: Boston - Callback to Offer Time Frame  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 12:02:59 pm   in: Legal Employment
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Re: Schools better for a career in M&A  
  by: Mullens   on: August 22, at 12:02:05 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
Hi all, I just joined TLS forum. My goal for attending law school is that I want to work on cross-border M&As. Assuming that there is no scholarship, and I won't be able to score 175+. Should I focus on schools on the east coast, e.g. NYU, Columbia, Cornell, Duke, Georgetown... instead of UC Berkeley/UCLA? (My general observation is that east coast programs are more international. Please corr...
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Re: Boston - Callback to Offer Time Frame  
  by: rosscobally   on: August 22, at 11:55:59 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:CB at Sidley 8/13, rejected today after sending an email yesterday saying they were top choice. Feels bad man.

sorry to hear that keep at it though!
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Re: Strikeout Thread  
  by: soft blue   on: August 22, at 11:54:53 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Median, lower T14 w/ substantial WE, 21 screeners, 2 CBs, 1 rejection, 1 still pending.

So far, I’m highly unimpressed with the OCI process and with the effectiveness of the “prestige” of the T14.

Yeah, this sounds like a you problem (in terms of your tone, etc).
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Re: Boston - Callback to Offer Time Frame  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 11:52:24 am   in: Legal Employment
CB at Sidley 8/13, rejected today after sending an email yesterday saying they were top choice. Feels bad man.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=302477

Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: Samark45   on: August 22, at 11:36:46 am   in: Choosing a Law School
How huge is this difference really if you’re talking about down the road where people will have also accumulated various experiences? Would someone who is a stellar performer as an attorney who applies for such things down the road but happens to have gone to NYU rather than Harvard really have such a different outcome? How can you isolate the school name from someone’s accomplishments when you’r...
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 11:30:22 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Any sense of how long DPW has been taking from CB to offer (or ding)?

I was Friday to Monday
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Re: DC Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 11:28:24 am   in: Legal Employment
Any Skadden DC offers for CBs that took place this week?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=302495

Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: nixy   on: August 22, at 11:22:50 am   in: Choosing a Law School
How huge is this difference really if you’re talking about down the road where people will have also accumulated various experiences? Would someone who is a stellar performer as an attorney who applies for such things down the road but happens to have gone to NYU rather than Harvard really have such a different outcome? How can you isolate the school name from someone’s accomplishments when you’r...
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: Samark45   on: August 22, at 11:20:20 am   in: Choosing a Law School
How huge is this difference really if you’re talking about down the road where people will have also accumulated various experiences? Would someone who is a stellar performer as an attorney who applies for such things down the road but happens to have gone to NYU rather than Harvard really have such a different outcome? How can you isolate the school name from someone’s accomplishments when you’r...
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Re: What exactly does Harvard Law look for in resume?  
  by: derekne   on: August 22, at 11:15:52 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Since it is one of the top three schools along with YLS and SLS, I would think that softs matter. On a related note, I've never been convinced that the "YSH" lumping makes sense. A more accurate grouping would be Yale, then Stanford, then Harvard/Chicago, then Columbia/NYU, in terms of prestige and placement power. Harvard is a terrific, top-notch school, but by no means is it interchan...
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: nixy   on: August 22, at 11:13:59 am   in: Choosing a Law School
But if you are below median at Harvard and/or bottom 25% your chances at big law are not much better than if you went to a NYU or Chicago. Also I think the prestige that Harvard Law holds at firms is a little overstated. This is false, especially given the way grades work at HLS. Places like NYU have a standard A-F grading system; places like Chicago also have quirky features, but it just doesn't...
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Re: Georgetown OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 11:09:49 am   in: Legal Employment
Officially dinged by Pepper Hamilton (Philly) (screener)
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=301671

Re: HLS EIP 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 11:09:35 am   in: Legal Employment

redpikachu wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Would it make sense that firms are waiting until Monday morning? Like are the interviewers off for the weekend (in big law?).

Waiting on Skadden and Arnold Porter (both NY).

got both during the weekend.

Via phone, mail, or email thx
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Re: Strikeout Thread  
  by: nixy   on: August 22, at 11:02:03 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Median, lower T14 w/ substantial WE, 21 screeners, 2 CBs, 1 rejection, 1 still pending.

So far, I’m highly unimpressed with the OCI process and with the effectiveness of the “prestige” of the T14.
Respectfully, is the failure to convert out of 21 screeners about the T14 prestige?
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Surprised by higher score: advice?  
  by: pnl   on: August 22, at 10:59:49 am   in: What are my chances?
My July LSAT came back many points higher than I realistically expected. I had been PTing in the range but didn't imagine I'd execute like that on the day. My GPA is 3.85. LSAT 176. (I'm an older than average, international, not URM, grad degrees and decent softs). My original list just doesn't seem quite right now. I was looking in the T 10-20 range. What am I supposed to do now? I mean, this is ...
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Re: NY Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 10:47:53 am   in: Legal Employment
Anyone know Winston timeline at this stage?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=302370

Re: Strikeout Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 10:45:25 am   in: Legal Employment
Median, lower T14 w/ substantial WE, 21 screeners, 2 CBs, 1 rejection, 1 still pending.

So far, I’m highly unimpressed with the OCI process and with the effectiveness of the “prestige” of the T14.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=302506

Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: The Lsat Airbender   on: August 22, at 10:26:29 am   in: Choosing a Law School
I think calling Harvard Law a "factory" is a stretch. It's about the same size as a liberal arts college, which are usually considered "small" and "intimate". It's also smaller than Harvard College (which is 3x as large), a school nobody calls a factory. Colleges aren't really analogous at all, for like 8 or 9 different reasons. HLS is about as big as its 3 closest p...
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Re: Am I crazy? Stanford Waitlist Acceptance vs. Berkeley ($$$)  
  by: HamlinMcgill   on: August 22, at 10:25:57 am   in: Choosing a Law School
I went to Stanford, and I don't think it's worth $300,000 over Berkeley. (Not sure why OP can't break the lease or sublet the Berkeley apartment though.) Most people from both schools end up with some version of biglaw. An environmental public interest job is achievable from Berkeley. Many public interest employers tend to care more about demonstrated interest and connections than prestige. Stanfo...
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: Samark45   on: August 22, at 10:14:30 am   in: Choosing a Law School
But if you are below median at Harvard and/or bottom 25% your chances at big law are not much better than if you went to a NYU or Chicago. Also I think the prestige that Harvard Law holds at firms is a little overstated. This is false, especially given the way grades work at HLS. Places like NYU have a standard A-F grading system; places like Chicago also have quirky features, but it just doesn't...
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Re: Am I crazy? Stanford Waitlist Acceptance vs. Berkeley ($$$)  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: August 22, at 10:12:29 am   in: Choosing a Law School
I just wanted to add, and I'm sure you already know this from having visited, that SLS is truly very nice, materially speaking. I mean the classrooms and especially the dorms. You will feel as if you were attending an elite private school, and you will feel as if you are getting what you are paying for. This by itself is a silly reason to pay $300,000 for a degree--I mean, on top of all the excel...
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Re: What is actual take home pay for DC biglaw?  
  by: JHP   on: August 22, at 10:03:58 am   in: Legal Employment

Dunnkirk85 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Can anyone in this thread answer the same question for NY? What is the actual take home pay for NY big law?


Excellent uses of the Anonymous feature ITT
There are also extensive threads on NY take home pay.... Flex those research muscles man
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Re: Yet Another "Help Me Choose" Thread (NYC Biglaw)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 9:59:21 am   in: Legal Employment
I'm in Goodwin Bos. so I'll share what I can/think. - Work environment: not sure about NY office, but my sense is that it is not crazy, haven't really heard any horror stories, nor do I have any from the Bos. office. I'm not someone who is best friends with people I work with, but I do genuinely think I am surrounded by good people. - Frattyness: as you are probably aware, the NY market overall is...
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Re: Addendum & Supplement Questions  
  by: enz2103   on: August 22, at 9:43:24 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I forget whether you have to convert anything to PDF, but every application has a section for additional documents or has an option to directly enter your addendum. So it'll depend on the school and the application layout. Also, don't waste a "Why [X]" on Columbia. Those are more necessary for lower T13 schools, and they're mostly necessary to guard against yield protection, not to boos...
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Re: Fordham Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 9:36:02 am   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone had a cb with Withers yet?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=302119

Withers Offers?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 9:33:52 am   in: Legal Employment
Anyone get an offer from Withers yet? What was the turnaround like for you?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=302628

Re: NY Firm Choice  
  by: AlbertParsons   on: August 22, at 9:30:53 am   in: Legal Employment
I can only speak a bit on Akin. The above posters are not right that the HQ is located in Dallas. I think Akin started in TX, but the largest offices are now DC #1 and NY a close #2 based on headcount. I think the chairperson has an office in each office. Is the Akin corporate group on the same level as other large corporate groups in NY? Perhaps not on dollar amounts but they have a good deal flo...
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: LawSchoolLA23   on: August 22, at 9:30:19 am   in: Choosing a Law School
Again, totally agree in general, and the decision is often Harvard at sticker vs. another T13 with a substantial scholarship. But in a total void, if you had to choose between Harvard and a lower T13 at the same cost, you should always choose Harvard. I completely agree that if the choice is two schools at sticker, Harvard should win out. But if you are below median at Harvard and/or bottom 25% y...
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Re: Am I crazy? Stanford Waitlist Acceptance vs. Berkeley ($$$)  
  by: Wild Card   on: August 22, at 9:29:09 am   in: Choosing a Law School
I just wanted to add, and I'm sure you already know this from having visited, that SLS is truly very nice, materially speaking. I mean the classrooms and especially the dorms. You will feel as if you were attending an elite private school, and you will feel as if you are getting what you are paying for. This by itself is a silly reason to pay $300,000 for a degree--I mean, on top of all the excell...
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Re: Boston - Callback to Offer Time Frame  
  by: rosscobally   on: August 22, at 9:26:14 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone been dinged by Sidley or Proskauer?

Proskauer CB on Wed. 8/14, still no word either way.
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Yet Another "Help Me Choose" Thread (NYC Biglaw)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 9:25:07 am   in: Legal Employment
Currently have offers from Goodwin (NY) and Kramer Levin. Liked everyone I met at both firms at my callbacks/second looks. Any anecdotal advice about either or both firms would be greatly appreciated, TIA. Things that matter to me: - Friendly work environment. I know I will be working long hours so it's important for me to work in an environment that's friendly and supportive to the greatest exten...
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Re: DC Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 9:21:42 am   in: Legal Employment
White and Case?
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Re: Northwestern 2019 OCI  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 9:20:00 am   in: Legal Employment
Where have people accepted offers? This forum should also be used to celebrate success of our classmates.
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 9:08:44 am   in: Legal Employment
Alumnus here. Just a couple things: (1) YP will only really happen at screener stage, as noted by others above, but it isn't as big of a deal as people seem to think. Firms have a pretty good sense of how many offers will be accepted, and they have a general idea of how big a summer class they want, but neither of these numbers are written in stone. (2) OCS likes to say that basically everyone get...
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Re: What Does WLRK Look For?  
  by: unlicensedpotato   on: August 22, at 9:08:06 am   in: Legal Employment
Got an offer from WLRK and they made it seem more like 10PM is the norm instead of frequent all-nighters. This was for lit, however, and also an associate did mention they pulled back to back all-nighters on a few occasions, so take that FWIW. I would assume that even for WLRK lit, lit and corporate are night and day different in this respect. Even at normal non-NY V50 firms, transactional folks ...
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 9:05:33 am   in: Legal Employment
This. If a phenomenon that resembles YP exists in law firm recruiting, it’s only at the screener stage. A firm is not going to take attorneys off of their billables and pay for flights, hotels etc. unless they were reasonably certain that the candidates called back would seriously consider taking an offer. Personality issues/fit problems are a more plausible explanation for no offers at the CB st...
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 9:04:15 am   in: Legal Employment
Ding - Mayer Brown. Some Chicago firms are definitely yield protecting, but tbh they're right in my case, I wouldn't have worked there. If I had done really poorly with the very selective firms for some reason this would be quite a scary OCI though! There's no such thing as yield protecting in OCI. firms don't have to report yield for SA offers. There's a huge amount of yield protection. I think ...
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Re: Georgetown OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 8:54:55 am   in: Legal Employment
Orrick ding 8/21, CB 8/19 Sorry to hear about that, which office was this for? Thanks. NY. Sorry to hear that. Do you mind sharing your GPA (approximate)? The OCS doesn't have any GPA data on Orrick's NY office. Thanks! No problem. I'm at median. Since OCS doesn't have NY data, I just looked at the DC data when bidding. The median GPA for DC was ~3.4 so I guessed it would be either the same or sl...
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Re: Georgetown OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 8:54:30 am   in: Legal Employment
Anyone heard from any Charlotte or Atlanta firms post-cb, and what was the timeline?
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Re: Am I crazy? Stanford Waitlist Acceptance vs. Berkeley ($$$)  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: August 22, at 8:50:19 am   in: Choosing a Law School
I didn’t go to a school as good as either of those, but I am posting to add a viewpoint developed through my own experience. I went to law school with a litigation-oriented goal in mind (call it public interest, broadly defined). I was lucky enough to swing an a3 fedclerk spot after graduation; I had no qualms about putting that original dream on hold for a year. I had not ever applied to a firm ...
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 8:45:58 am   in: Legal Employment
Ding - Mayer Brown. Some Chicago firms are definitely yield protecting, but tbh they're right in my case, I wouldn't have worked there. If I had done really poorly with the very selective firms for some reason this would be quite a scary OCI though! There's no such thing as yield protecting in OCI. firms don't have to report yield for SA offers. There's a huge amount of yield protection. I think ...
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Re: Boston - Callback to Offer Time Frame  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 8:39:40 am   in: Legal Employment
Has anyone been dinged by Sidley or Proskauer?
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Should I supplement BarMax with Adaptibar?  
  by: Cans25   on: August 22, at 8:38:01 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I am taking the 2020 February Tennessee UBE. I graduated law school in 2000 and took and passed the NH and MA bars. I moved to TN and even with 19 years experience I do not qualify for admission on motion because I’ve worked part time while being a stay at home mom the last few years, so I have no choice but to take the bar. Needless to say, everything is different. I am starting to study now beca...
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Re: Schools better for a career in M&A  
  by: notinbiglaw   on: August 22, at 8:30:23 am   in: Choosing a Law School
Take lsat. Go to highest ranked school you get into. If ranks are close small preference for east coast but NY recruits from everywhere
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Re: NY Firm Choice  
  by: Idontwanttomakeaname   on: August 22, at 8:23:02 am   in: Legal Employment
I can’t say from first hand experience but everyone I know who has worked at Cadwallader in New York has really bad things to say about it. A little searching this forum should uncover some firsthand horror stories
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Re: Am I crazy? Stanford Waitlist Acceptance vs. Berkeley ($$$)  
  by: nealric   on: August 22, at 8:15:27 am   in: Choosing a Law School
I'll be in the minority by saying that if it were me, I'd choose Stanford. My perspective may be slightly different given that I paid off my student loans years ago. The amount I borrowed seemed enormous then, but in the rear view mirror it doesn't at all. While I understand a healthy fear of debt, it's not material compared to the likely lifetime earnings of a Stanford graduate. It's true that ei...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: howell   on: August 22, at 8:00:56 am   in: Legal Employment
Hello, I just interviewed with the SJA at a local AFB and he told me that he would be recommending me for selection, and that I would make a great fit with the USAFJAG. However, I am prior enlisted and had an article 15, the SJA said that HQJAG would have to approve a waiver. The SJA explained that this would be my biggest hurdle but he wasn't sure how great of a hurdle that obtaining the waiver ...
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Re: Rejecting / Declining Offers  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 7:59:55 am   in: Legal Employment
Why do many law students hold on to multiple offers from firms for a long period of time? I have classmates holding on to offers for over a week as they make their decision. I really want them to decline a few firms so that I might be able to get an offer. This seems to be a real problem. Stop hogging all the offers! Very presumptuous of you to believe that your classmates holding an offer is wha...
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 7:57:26 am   in: Legal Employment
Ding - Mayer Brown. Some Chicago firms are definitely yield protecting, but tbh they're right in my case, I wouldn't have worked there. If I had done really poorly with the very selective firms for some reason this would be quite a scary OCI though! There's no such thing as yield protecting in OCI. firms don't have to report yield for SA offers. There's a huge amount of yield protection. I think ...
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Re: HLS EIP 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 7:56:17 am   in: Legal Employment
Anyone heard from W&C? Or know when they'll get back to us roughly?
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Re: HLS EIP 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 7:55:06 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:So if I interviewed with DPW yesterday afternoon and haven’t heard should I just assume it’s a no?

I wouldn't say that. Give it 3-4 days and you should know, however.
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Re: Military Law  
  by: howell   on: August 22, at 7:53:25 am   in: Legal Employment
We then discussed me so called red flags. What is hilarious is that I am technically too heavy for entry right now. I lift pretty regularly. We both kinda laughed at it and she said, "well your an athlete, but you have to meet the requirements." I told her to give me a week and Ill way however much I need to. I have a criminal charge from 2007 that I got a Deferred Entry of Judgement on...
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Re: What Does WLRK Look For?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 7:52:51 am   in: Legal Employment
Got an offer from WLRK and they made it seem more like 10PM is the norm instead of frequent all-nighters. This was for lit, however, and also an associate did mention they pulled back to back all-nighters on a few occasions, so take that FWIW.
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Re: DC Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 7:43:50 am   in: Legal Employment
W&C?
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Re: Recruiting Committee?  
  by: jaekeem   on: August 22, at 7:35:49 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
there's nothing to gain from worrying about this.

just be kind to everyone.
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Re: Rejecting / Declining Offers  
  by: 2013   on: August 22, at 7:22:52 am   in: Legal Employment
Agree with the above. Firms are generally good regarding yield, so it isn’t often that they need to make additional offers.

I’ve noticed that when firms need more summers for specific practice groups after everyone has accepted/declined, they usually repost around October for a specific position (i.e., healthcare) and do callbacks again.
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Re: Rejecting / Declining Offers  
  by: inter-associate   on: August 22, at 6:09:52 am   in: Legal Employment
Start mass-mailing. If you think that your chances of getting an offer are dependent on someone else rejecting theirs, then you're probably (a) wrong and/or (b) screwing up callbacks. Focus on what you need to do to get your own offers, not on whatever magical external forces you think will sway the odds in your favor. This. Most firms make more offers than they have expected spots for understand...
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Re: Rejecting / Declining Offers  
  by: nixy   on: August 22, at 6:01:47 am   in: Legal Employment
Over a week is not a long time.
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: nixy   on: August 22, at 6:00:40 am   in: Choosing a Law School

Veil of Ignorance wrote:I think calling Harvard Law a "factory" is a stretch. It's about the same size as a liberal arts college, which are usually considered "small" and "intimate". It's also smaller than Harvard College (which is 3x as large), a school nobody calls a factory.
I’ll call Harvard College a factory.

(But really what Airbender said that colleges aren’t analogous.)
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Re: Rejecting / Declining Offers  
  by: notinbiglaw   on: August 22, at 5:58:34 am   in: Legal Employment
Because it’s a genuinely difficult decision and you can learn a lot about a firm’s culture and what they are good at in a few weeks. Just casual conversations with professors can tell you a lot especially if you have practice areas in mind.
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Re: What is actual take home pay for DC biglaw?  
  by: cavalier1138   on: August 22, at 5:39:13 am   in: Legal Employment
Bear in mind that your takehome pay will differ slightly based on where you actually live (i.e. DC, MD, or VA).
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Re: Rejecting / Declining Offers  
  by: cavalier1138   on: August 22, at 5:36:37 am   in: Legal Employment
Start mass-mailing.

If you think that your chances of getting an offer are dependent on someone else rejecting theirs, then you're probably (a) wrong and/or (b) screwing up callbacks. Focus on what you need to do to get your own offers, not on whatever magical external forces you think will sway the odds in your favor.
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Re: Chances with GRE? 3.2 uGPA/324 GRE  
  by: cavalier1138   on: August 22, at 5:33:21 am   in: What are my chances?
I doubt anyone can give you solid answers, because we don't have enough information about GRE numbers anywhere to have an idea of what numbers are required for acceptance.

However, I can provide some pretty easy feedback on your school list: it's all over the place. What are your career goals, and where do you want to work?
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: cavalier1138   on: August 22, at 5:29:12 am   in: Choosing a Law School
I agree in general, and I mostly blame the popularity of Legally Blonde . But I do take issue with one claim: Also your chances of landing a big law job are no better than if you had gone to any other top law school. Harvard just flat-out beats most of the lower T13 at biglaw/fedclerk placement. And the quality of firm (and subsequent exit opportunities) should also be taken into consideration. Ye...
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Re: Addendum & Supplement Questions  
  by: cavalier1138   on: August 22, at 5:15:02 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I forget whether you have to convert anything to PDF, but every application has a section for additional documents or has an option to directly enter your addendum. So it'll depend on the school and the application layout. Also, don't waste a "Why [X]" on Columbia. Those are more necessary for lower T13 schools, and they're mostly necessary to guard against yield protection, not to boost...
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Re: Recruiting Committee?  
  by: cavalier1138   on: August 22, at 5:11:42 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
What about associates? If I am interviewing with an associate, will their feedback be taken into consideration? Again, always assume the answer is yes. Hell, if you meet a kindly old woman outside the firm who asks you for directions, assume that her feedback will be taken into consideration. The fact that you keep asking makes me think that you were a dick to an associate, which is not something...
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: The Lsat Airbender   on: August 22, at 4:27:47 am   in: Choosing a Law School
I think calling Harvard Law a "factory" is a stretch. It's about the same size as a liberal arts college, which are usually considered "small" and "intimate". It's also smaller than Harvard College (which is 3x as large), a school nobody calls a factory. Colleges aren't really analogous at all, for like 8 or 9 different reasons. HLS is about as big as its 3 closest p...
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Schools better for a career in M&A  
  by: coldbrewisthebest   on: August 22, at 3:58:01 am   in: Choosing a Law School
Hi all, I just joined TLS forum. My goal for attending law school is that I want to work on cross-border M&As. Assuming that there is no scholarship, and I won't be able to score 175+. Should I focus on schools on the east coast, e.g. NYU, Columbia, Cornell, Duke, Georgetown... instead of UC Berkeley/UCLA? (My general observation is that east coast programs are more international. Please corre...
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Re: Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: Veil of Ignorance   on: August 22, at 3:04:16 am   in: Choosing a Law School
I think calling Harvard Law a "factory" is a stretch. It's about the same size as a liberal arts college, which are usually considered "small" and "intimate". It's also smaller than Harvard College (which is 3x as large), a school nobody calls a factory.
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Re: Recruiting Committee?  
  by: LawSchoolLA23   on: August 22, at 2:38:28 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
What about associates? If I am interviewing with an associate, will their feedback be taken into consideration?
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Prospective Students - Why are you fixated on Harvard Law School?  
  by: LawSchoolLA23   on: August 22, at 2:35:10 am   in: Choosing a Law School
I know Harvard is many peoples dream school, but I never really understood why. It's a given Harvard is one of the oldest and most prestigious schools in the country, but when it comes to law school it also has one of the largest student bodies and is more akin to a "law student factory." Also your chances of landing a big law job are no better than if you had gone to any other top law s...
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Re: Constitutional Court of South Africa  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 2:09:19 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
It’s been a while since I saw this thread, but yes, I did end up taking the clerkship and it was the most fulfilling legal work I’ve ever done. Your experience will depend a lot on who you clerk for, but even in a bad scenario, you’ll have opportunities to shape the clerkship in a way that is interesting to you. All clerks participate in the process for hiring the next batch of clerks. Foreign cle...
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Rejecting / Declining Offers  
  by: LawSchoolLA23   on: August 22, at 2:07:22 am   in: Legal Employment
Why do many law students hold on to multiple offers from firms for a long period of time? I have classmates holding on to offers for over a week as they make their decision. I really want them to decline a few firms so that I might be able to get an offer. This seems to be a real problem. Stop hogging all the offers!
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Re: UChicago Law OCI 2019  
  by: QContinuum   on: August 22, at 12:47:37 am   in: Legal Employment
My personal experience is that while "yield protection" isn't specifically a consideration - firms don't really care about their "yield" for prestige/ranking purposes in the way law schools do - interviewers/firms definitely do consider a candidate's likelihood of accepting an offer (if extended) in deciding who to call back (callbacks are costly to firms in terms of attorney t...
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Re: DC Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 12:39:08 am   in: Legal Employment
Latham offered in the evening on the callback day
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Re: Am I crazy? Stanford Waitlist Acceptance vs. Berkeley ($$$)  
  by: LaChusa2020   on: August 22, at 12:24:00 am   in: Choosing a Law School
SLS is great but as a Berkeley alum I can say I was afraid when I started at Berkeley that unless I was at the top of the class I wouldn’t get to clerk, wouldn’t be able to get a job on the east coast, wouldn’t be able to get into very selective boutiques. I was able to do all of those things without being at the top of my class. SLS definitely has an edge in certain opportunities and there are ti...
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Re: Wardrobe emergency-can I wear business casual to a callback?  
  by: QContinuum   on: August 22, at 12:22:27 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Thanks to both of you. I do have a couple of other offers I'd be fine taking but really like this firm as well. Jacket it is, then.
Congrats on your offers and godspeed at your callback!
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Re: 3.27 uGPA/161 LSAT/first-gen nonURM/currently Patent Agent in BigLaw  
  by: QContinuum   on: August 22, at 12:17:46 am   in: What are my chances?
Every admissions office in every field says they take a holistic approach, because that's the language the Supreme Court used and also because it sounds much better than saying their admissions process is a numbers game. To some extent it's true, but really only at the margins. The fact you could perform well in a demanding job and have a phD is admirable, but isn't really unique enough to be wor...
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Re: Too much 2L Fall?  
  by: QContinuum   on: August 22, at 12:13:04 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
My rule of thumb was no more than two black-letter lectures in any given semester. This is doubly true if also doing an externship (unless the externship in question is known to be particularly light on work - IME most externships require more time than BL courses). Also, I wouldn't recommend doing five classes in a semester anyway. So I'd drop at least one of your Evidence/Corps/Income Tax trifec...
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Re: Booked Vacation Prior to Lateraling to a New Firm  
  by: RaceJudicata   on: August 22, at 12:08:40 am   in: Legal Employment
Prob should have cleared it/gave them heads up once you had offer in hand.

But I doubt it’ll be a problem — this seems like enough lead time. If anything, maybe cut it a few day’s short?
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Booked Vacation Prior to Lateraling to a New Firm  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 22, at 12:06:18 am   in: Legal Employment
I am moving to a new firm in two weeks. I scheduled a 10 day vacation in January before I accepted my new position. Should I cancel the vacation or will the firm be forgiving?
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Re: Notre Dame reputation in the South  
  by: QContinuum   on: August 22, at 12:04:22 am   in: Choosing a Law School
I gathered during my research that ND has a reputation, in some circles, for being a decent environment to cultivate conservative catholic law students into that fraternity of like-minded individuals. Think FedSoc, Heritage Foundation etc. If that sounds like you, there may some more opportunity for you than is readily apparent but that's said with a huge grain of salt. In those situations it pro...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: notarevert   on: August 21, at 11:48:05 pm   in: Legal Employment
Hello Everyone, Spent the last month combing through all of these posts and the information you have all provided made my application as competitive as possible. Thank you very much. I completed my DAP interview this morning. It was a phenomenal experience and will post when I hear anything. Can also offer some advice at this juncture for those who want some info on the application and interview ...
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Re: Should I ED to UCLA? 3.756/171  
  by: Dcc617   on: August 21, at 11:47:58 pm   in: What are my chances?
Honestly, the best advice for your goals would be to apply across the T14 (and add UCLA and USC). That way you can maximize your scholarship and employment numbers. Then get a California 1L summer job and manufacture as many ties as possible.
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Chances with GRE? 3.2 uGPA/324 GRE  
  by: opp24   on: August 21, at 11:22:14 pm   in: What are my chances?
I was just wondering what my chances would be at the schools that accept GRE scores. I will probably take the LSAT, but wanted to see where I stand now. I'm assuming I don't have a shot at T14 GRE schools (Penn, Cornell, etc.), but was wondering more about schools like Wake Forest, Notre Dame, WUSTL, SMU, etc. that accept the GRE. Thank you! uGPA: 3.2 GRE: 162 V (90%), 162 Q (79%), 6.0 AW (99%) 3 ...
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Addendum & Supplement Questions  
  by: enz2103   on: August 21, at 10:56:38 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I have written an addendum to explain both my poor GPA and my academic probation (which resulted from failing a class). I am also in the process of writing "Why School" essays for the schools I have very specific reasons for wanting to attend (Northwestern, Columbia, Duke, & UVA). Applications have not yet opened, but where would I submit my addendum and supplements? My goal is to ha...
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Re: Gibson vs. Latham vs. MoFo  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 21, at 10:52:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
I believe you get an interior office as a second year (not sure, I work in a different latham office, but I know for a fact that my classmates in SF still do not have offices). I'm frankly impressed they managed it hide it from you guys at interviews. If you are curious about what they look like, ask to see the 19th floor if and when you do your touchbacks.
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Re: Gibson vs. Latham vs. MoFo  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 21, at 10:40:21 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:You won't have an office at Latham sf ( completely open floorplan), so keep that in mind.

Latham has an open floorplan??? What fresh hell is this? I thought I left that life behind at my old career

i'm laffin. same.
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Re: DC Offers 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: August 21, at 10:34:56 pm   in: Legal Employment
Hogan, interview to offer in 2 days.
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