163 Diagnostic, 3.79 GPA Forum
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163 Diagnostic, 3.79 GPA
Hi!
I'm new here. A few years back while in undergrad, I took PowerScore's in-person LSAT course. Admittedly, I was not sold on law school at that point in time and did not make the most of the in-class time. Apologies in advance, this is a mish-mash post of someone looking for some thoughts/advice.
Now, nearly two years out of undergrad, I'm looking at applying in the 2018-2019 admissions cycle for a Fall 2019 start date. I took my first timed LSAT in over two years and scored a 163 (December 2010, as I had taken the June 2007 LSAT previously; -5 rc, -4 lr, -7 lg, -9 lr). I felt generally good about the test, which I took at a noisy cafe/deal with distractions while timed. I hesitate in calling this a diagnostic score, as I recognize I did technically take a course. But, 2 years later, it feels like I'm restarting the process.
I'm looking at taking the June LSAT with the goal of around 169-172+ as a final score. Does that seem feasible? Thoughts on using 7Sage given my diagnostic score breakdown? I currently do advanced analytics for a large retail company through a global ad agency, so I suspect my reading comprehension is a bit off given how little reading I do on the day-to-day.
Undergrad was in International Affairs/Journalism and I received a BA w/ Honors (3.79 GPA) and led University government for a year. I took several graduate-level courses in undergrad and held internships/jobs throughout (legal internship under Federal Judge in NYC, paralegal intern at a class-action litigation non-profit, an intern at US Mission to the United Nations, global strategy intern and part-time consultant at a global advocacy non-profit for young people). I also received some distinguished awards (student leader award out of all University students, inclusive of graduate students and humanitarian award upon graduation). I worked my first full-time job for 1.5 years at an LGBT non-profit developing health campaigns for NYSDOH and, as mentioned, now conduct advanced analytics for a leading advertising agency in NYC. I'm on a young professionals board for a legal non-profit outside of work and lead LGBT volunteer events at the agency I work for in the city.
I have quite a mixed background, all of which have been tests helping me decipher whether a legal practice is where I feel I can contribute most to the world, and I'm now decided that it is. So, here I go.. Taking the LSAT for real.
Thoughts on my ability to get up to a 169-172 given my 'diagnostic'? Thoughts on my getting into a top law school (wanting to get into NYU or Columbia and dreaming of Harvard or Yale) given my background?
Thanks in advance for all of your help.
I'm new here. A few years back while in undergrad, I took PowerScore's in-person LSAT course. Admittedly, I was not sold on law school at that point in time and did not make the most of the in-class time. Apologies in advance, this is a mish-mash post of someone looking for some thoughts/advice.
Now, nearly two years out of undergrad, I'm looking at applying in the 2018-2019 admissions cycle for a Fall 2019 start date. I took my first timed LSAT in over two years and scored a 163 (December 2010, as I had taken the June 2007 LSAT previously; -5 rc, -4 lr, -7 lg, -9 lr). I felt generally good about the test, which I took at a noisy cafe/deal with distractions while timed. I hesitate in calling this a diagnostic score, as I recognize I did technically take a course. But, 2 years later, it feels like I'm restarting the process.
I'm looking at taking the June LSAT with the goal of around 169-172+ as a final score. Does that seem feasible? Thoughts on using 7Sage given my diagnostic score breakdown? I currently do advanced analytics for a large retail company through a global ad agency, so I suspect my reading comprehension is a bit off given how little reading I do on the day-to-day.
Undergrad was in International Affairs/Journalism and I received a BA w/ Honors (3.79 GPA) and led University government for a year. I took several graduate-level courses in undergrad and held internships/jobs throughout (legal internship under Federal Judge in NYC, paralegal intern at a class-action litigation non-profit, an intern at US Mission to the United Nations, global strategy intern and part-time consultant at a global advocacy non-profit for young people). I also received some distinguished awards (student leader award out of all University students, inclusive of graduate students and humanitarian award upon graduation). I worked my first full-time job for 1.5 years at an LGBT non-profit developing health campaigns for NYSDOH and, as mentioned, now conduct advanced analytics for a leading advertising agency in NYC. I'm on a young professionals board for a legal non-profit outside of work and lead LGBT volunteer events at the agency I work for in the city.
I have quite a mixed background, all of which have been tests helping me decipher whether a legal practice is where I feel I can contribute most to the world, and I'm now decided that it is. So, here I go.. Taking the LSAT for real.
Thoughts on my ability to get up to a 169-172 given my 'diagnostic'? Thoughts on my getting into a top law school (wanting to get into NYU or Columbia and dreaming of Harvard or Yale) given my background?
Thanks in advance for all of your help.
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Re: 163 Diagnostic, 3.79 GPA
Seems feasible. You can easily knock 5 off your RC right away, and probably the same off your LG, I bet. Haven't used 7Sage except for the free videos. In my experience they are good. I will defer to somebody else about the rest of the program.
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Re: 163 Diagnostic, 3.79 GPA
I think 7Sage is a great option along with Manhattan's Guides/The LSAT Trainer.
Was PT62 a fresh take for you? If so, I think you have an excellent chance of scoring in your desired range.
Was PT62 a fresh take for you? If so, I think you have an excellent chance of scoring in your desired range.
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Re: 163 Diagnostic, 3.79 GPA
Thanks for the advice. Yes - I think I can knock some stuff off easily. I really got mixed up on the last lr section, primarily because I had been extremely distracted (coffee shop closed and I had to pause timer, go home, and complete test) at that point. I got the last 5 questions wrong, which are the 5 I took once back to my apartment.poptart123 wrote:Seems feasible. You can easily knock 5 off your RC right away, and probably the same off your LG, I bet. Haven't used 7Sage except for the free videos. In my experience they are good. I will defer to somebody else about the rest of the program.
Finger's crossed. I like that 7Sage will be analyzing my performance to help me focus on questions types I'm weaker on. That is always a challenge for me - drilling my weakest points. So, hopefully, 7Sage would help with that.
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Re: 163 Diagnostic, 3.79 GPA
Yes - fresh take after 2 years of not looking at the LSAT or any logical reasoning questions (though I definitely use logic in my day-to-day doing coding for analysis). Thanks. Hoping I could even end up aiming for around 172+.Barack O'Drama wrote:I think 7Sage is a great option along with Manhattan's Guides/The LSAT Trainer.
Was PT62 a fresh take for you? If so, I think you have an excellent chance of scoring in your desired range.
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- Barack O'Drama
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Re: 163 Diagnostic, 3.79 GPA
There's not a doubt in my mind that you can't reach a 172. You got this!stormNYC wrote:Yes - fresh take after 2 years of not looking at the LSAT or any logical reasoning questions (though I definitely use logic in my day-to-day doing coding for analysis). Thanks. Hoping I could even end up aiming for around 172+.Barack O'Drama wrote:I think 7Sage is a great option along with Manhattan's Guides/The LSAT Trainer.
Was PT62 a fresh take for you? If so, I think you have an excellent chance of scoring in your desired range.
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Re: 163 Diagnostic, 3.79 GPA
Barack O'Drama wrote:There's not a doubt in my mind that you can't reach a 172. You got this!stormNYC wrote:Yes - fresh take after 2 years of not looking at the LSAT or any logical reasoning questions (though I definitely use logic in my day-to-day doing coding for analysis). Thanks. Hoping I could even end up aiming for around 172+.Barack O'Drama wrote:I think 7Sage is a great option along with Manhattan's Guides/The LSAT Trainer.
Was PT62 a fresh take for you? If so, I think you have an excellent chance of scoring in your desired range.
You just told me that you are certain I cannot reach a 172 hahah. But, I'll take it as though you meant to say "There's not a doubt in my mind that you can reach a 172."