166 (4th take) 3.8, t13 chance?

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166 (4th take) 3.8, t13 chance?

Postby dan9257 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:25 pm

How reliable are the stats from mylsn.com?
I entered my stats (excluded URM, ED) and it showed I have 59% chance at Duke, 50% at NU, 82% at Cornell.
But 166 is below median for all t13 schools and I wonder if the stats are really reliable.
Also, I have 4 scores: Cancel-164-165-166.

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Re: 166 (4th take) 3.8, t13 chance?

Postby icechicken » Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:18 am

>59% chance at Duke, 50% at NU, 82% at Cornell.


Sounds about right. You're a standard reverse-splitter at Duke and Cornell. NU will probably only bite if you have solid work experience since you're below their GPA median too.

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Re: 166 (4th take) 3.8, t13 chance?

Postby jimmyplayer601 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:53 am

I think you have a really good shot at Cornell. Because honestly yeah their median is 167 but it deff is only 167 by a nudge and your GPA is over their 75th percentile. I went there for undergrad and I'm just going to say winter can be brutal but ithaca is also "gorge-ous" when the sun comes out.

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Re: 166 (4th take) 3.8, t13 chance?

Postby dan9257 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:33 am

icechicken wrote:
>59% chance at Duke, 50% at NU, 82% at Cornell.


Sounds about right. You're a standard reverse-splitter at Duke and Cornell. NU will probably only bite if you have solid work experience since you're below their GPA median too.


Sorry my GPA is actually 3.81 so it's exactly the median of NU. Although I have 3 years of work experience as a project manager, I am not sure if it would be helpful because I believe most people who get into NU with low stats are those with experiences in finance or management consulting.

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Re: 166 (4th take) 3.8, t13 chance?

Postby proteinshake » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:53 pm

cornell is likely going to be your best bet

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Re: 166 (4th take) 3.8, t13 chance?

Postby dan9257 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:09 pm

proteinshake wrote:cornell is likely going to be your best bet


Do you think I have a realistic chance at Cornell?

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Re: 166 (4th take) 3.8, t13 chance?

Postby runinthefront » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:11 pm

dan9257 wrote:
proteinshake wrote:cornell is likely going to be your best bet


Do you think I have a realistic chance at Cornell?

I would say that you have a realistic chance (i.e., 50% or better) at NU, Duke, and Cornell. I think it's more likely that you get into all three than none.

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Re: 166 (4th take) 3.8, t13 chance?

Postby dan9257 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:44 pm

runinthefront wrote:
dan9257 wrote:
proteinshake wrote:cornell is likely going to be your best bet


Do you think I have a realistic chance at Cornell?

I would say that you have a realistic chance (i.e., 50% or better) at NU, Duke, and Cornell. I think it's more likely that you get into all three than none.


I have 18% chance for Berkeley, which is even lower than NYU (43%) and Michigan (36%). But Berkeley's median is lower than both Duke and NU and on par with Cornell. Is this because Berkeley tends to stick to their median?

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Re: 166 (4th take) 3.8, t13 chance?

Postby runinthefront » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:51 pm

dan9257 wrote:
runinthefront wrote:
dan9257 wrote:
proteinshake wrote:cornell is likely going to be your best bet


Do you think I have a realistic chance at Cornell?

I would say that you have a realistic chance (i.e., 50% or better) at NU, Duke, and Cornell. I think it's more likely that you get into all three than none.


I have 18% chance for Berkeley, which is even lower than NYU (43%) and Michigan (36%). But Berkeley's median is lower than both Duke and NU and on par with Cornell. Is this because Berkeley tends to stick to their median?

Just apply broadly; stop reading tea leaves and trying to decipher data from small sample sizes

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Re: 166 (4th take) 3.8, t13 chance?

Postby UVA2B » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:53 pm

It seems you've reached the end point where mylsn can be helpful, but you want that helpfulness to extend further.

LSN (and mylsn as an extension) will give you a rough gauge of your chances at a school, but applicants are not a monolith. There are a litany of factors that go into whether a given applicant gets into Cornell, Duke, Berkeley, et al. And while this gives a somewhat decent approximation of your chances, it doesn't define whether YOU will get in to a school with complete certainty.

Don't become slavish to mylsn, even though you need to respect the types of conclusions you should draw from it generally.

Given your current profile, you have outside shots in the middle of the T13, and you have (generally) increasing chances as you go down that ladder. This has nothing to do with the mylsn, self-selected, self-reported data, but it's generally accurate.

You can't put a percentile value on your chance of admission at any school with absolute certainty. It's a decent proxy, but it's not certainty.

No one here (or anywhere outside the specific admissions office where you applied) can tell you whether you can/will get into a given law school. We're all playing a certain amount of guessing game, and that's based on mylsn, intuition based on statistics, and other non-numerical factors.




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