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Post by spleenworship » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:01 am

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toothbrush wrote:do we find it equally as weird to bring your SO ? Given that he/she may live there ?
No that's totally fine, people do it all the time.

And people do remember the weird shit from ASW. Not all of it, but you don't want to be pushing the boundaries of that.

These two points are credited.

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Post by nickb285 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:03 am

slawww wrote:That's some deep shit, man. Judging from what you said in the above post, I think you care too much about what other people think about you. That said, after reading these threads, I followed the TLS advice and did not bring my parents to the ASD I attended, and I'm glad I did, because I felt more comfortable. I talked with a bunch of people who did bring their parents, and they seemed normal to me, and it definitely didn't elicit any of the emotions you brought up. I didn't judge any of them, and if I did, I don't know why they should care anyways. If I were to be in the same section with someone who brought their parents to ASD and I thought they were cool, I wouldn't just shun them or something because he/she brought parents to ASD. It's really not that big of a deal. That said, I'd also recommend not bringing a parent, because I believe it's more socially comfortable without them, but it's not some huge deal, either.
Well that's the thing. It might not hurt--people might not think you're weird or a mama's boy or entitled or dependent or any of the other stuff that's been brought up here--but there's absolutely no way that it could help, and the risk/reward is such that there's no reason whatsoever to bring your parents to ASD.

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Re: Bring a parent to law school visit?

Post by spleenworship » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:03 am

slawww wrote: That's some deep shit, man. Judging from what you said in the above post, I think you care too much about what other people think about you.
You have no idea how the legal profession works, do you?

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Post by Scotusnerd » Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:22 am

slawww wrote: That's some deep shit, man. Judging from what you said in the above post, I think you care too much about what other people think about you. That said, after reading these threads, I followed the TLS advice and did not bring my parents to the ASD I attended, and I'm glad I did, because I felt more comfortable. I talked with a bunch of people who did bring their parents, and they seemed normal to me, and it definitely didn't elicit any of the emotions you brought up. I didn't judge any of them, and if I did, I don't know why they should care anyways. If I were to be in the same section with someone who brought their parents to ASD and I thought they were cool, I wouldn't just shun them or something because he/she brought parents to ASD. It's really not that big of a deal. That said, I'd also recommend not bringing a parent, because I believe it's more socially comfortable without them, but it's not some huge deal, either.
That has nothing to do with my personal opinion. I'm telling you what people, as a group, would think. Do I feel some of those emotions? Yeah. But I'm not gonna sit there and judge people. But I do to some extent and--more importantly--others will definitely judge.

I never said this was a big deal. It won't make or break your career. But it's stupid to do something early that separates you from all your classmates.

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Re: Bring a parent to law school visit?

Post by slawww » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:43 am

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slawww wrote: That's some deep shit, man. Judging from what you said in the above post, I think you care too much about what other people think about you.
You have no idea how the legal profession works, do you?
That's a real nice strawman.

You can have a great professional reputation and still care too much about people think about you.

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Re: Bring a parent to law school visit?

Post by spleenworship » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:25 pm

slawww wrote:
spleenworship wrote:
slawww wrote: That's some deep shit, man. Judging from what you said in the above post, I think you care too much about what other people think about you.
You have no idea how the legal profession works, do you?
That's a real nice strawman.

You can have a great professional reputation and still care too much about people think about you.
Check your own strawman, bro. While you are right that you can have a great professional reputation and still care too much about what people think of you, what I was trying to point out is that scotusnerd's comments have to do with building your rep starting from ASD, and having to care then about what other people think about you.

But by all means, let kids bring their helicopter mommies and daddies with them and get judged then, as you suggest is ok. Because I'm sure I'll forget the spoiled rich kid who was a pathetic extension of his WASP parents when it comes time to work with or against him. I won't remember for the rest of my life or anything. That kind of pathetic fades quickly from your brain.

No, wait... as a 2L I still distinctly remember his name. And for the rest of my career I'll remember him as the spoiled, wimpy rich kid. I sure as hell don't want to work with him... and despite his brains I look forward to be opposing counsel someday. Because mommy can't save him in the courtroom when I metaphorically recreate that scene from Deliverance on him.

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Post by ironbmike » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:36 pm

spleenworship wrote:
slawww wrote:
spleenworship wrote:
slawww wrote: That's some deep shit, man. Judging from what you said in the above post, I think you care too much about what other people think about you.
You have no idea how the legal profession works, do you?
That's a real nice strawman.

You can have a great professional reputation and still care too much about people think about you.
Check your own strawman, bro. While you are right that you can have a great professional reputation and still care too much about what people think of you, what I was trying to point out is that scotusnerd's comments have to do with building your rep starting from ASD, and having to care then about what other people think about you.

But by all means, let kids bring their helicopter mommies and daddies with them and get judged then, as you suggest is ok. Because I'm sure I'll forget the spoiled rich kid who was a pathetic extension of his WASP parents when it comes time to work with or against him. I won't remember for the rest of my life or anything. That kind of pathetic fades quickly from your brain.

No, wait... as a 2L I still distinctly remember his name. And for the rest of my career I'll remember him as the spoiled, wimpy rich kid. I sure as hell don't want to work with him... and despite his brains I look forward to be opposing counsel someday. Because mommy can't save him in the courtroom when I metaphorically recreate that scene from Deliverance on him.
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Re: Bring a parent to law school visit?

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:42 pm

spleenworship wrote:
slawww wrote:
spleenworship wrote:
slawww wrote: That's some deep shit, man. Judging from what you said in the above post, I think you care too much about what other people think about you.
You have no idea how the legal profession works, do you?
That's a real nice strawman.

You can have a great professional reputation and still care too much about people think about you.
Check your own strawman, bro. While you are right that you can have a great professional reputation and still care too much about what people think of you, what I was trying to point out is that scotusnerd's comments have to do with building your rep starting from ASD, and having to care then about what other people think about you.

But by all means, let kids bring their helicopter mommies and daddies with them and get judged then, as you suggest is ok. Because I'm sure I'll forget the spoiled rich kid who was a pathetic extension of his WASP parents when it comes time to work with or against him. I won't remember for the rest of my life or anything. That kind of pathetic fades quickly from your brain.

No, wait... as a 2L I still distinctly remember his name. And for the rest of my career I'll remember him as the spoiled, wimpy rich kid. I sure as hell don't want to work with him... and despite his brains I look forward to be opposing counsel someday. Because mommy can't save him in the courtroom when I metaphorically recreate that scene from Deliverance on him.
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Re: Bring a parent to law school visit?

Post by slawww » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:58 pm

spleenworship wrote:
slawww wrote:
spleenworship wrote:
slawww wrote: That's some deep shit, man. Judging from what you said in the above post, I think you care too much about what other people think about you.
You have no idea how the legal profession works, do you?
That's a real nice strawman.

You can have a great professional reputation and still care too much about people think about you.
Check your own strawman, bro. While you are right that you can have a great professional reputation and still care too much about what people think of you, what I was trying to point out is that scotusnerd's comments have to do with building your rep starting from ASD, and having to care then about what other people think about you.

But by all means, let kids bring their helicopter mommies and daddies with them and get judged then, as you suggest is ok. Because I'm sure I'll forget the spoiled rich kid who was a pathetic extension of his WASP parents when it comes time to work with or against him. I won't remember for the rest of my life or anything. That kind of pathetic fades quickly from your brain.

No, wait... as a 2L I still distinctly remember his name. And for the rest of my career I'll remember him as the spoiled, wimpy rich kid. I sure as hell don't want to work with him... and despite his brains I look forward to be opposing counsel someday. Because mommy can't save him in the courtroom when I metaphorically recreate that scene from Deliverance on him.
So much hyperbole. So because 1 kid from one ASD who brought his parents was a douche, everyone should be judged as such? Don't understand that logic. When I was at ASD, I could tell who brought their parents, but I really had no interaction with any of them for the most part, so I had no reason to judge them and shun them for the rest of my life. The kid you mention just seems like a douche; would your opinion of him be great had he not brought his parents? There were a couple of people I met at ASD that I would certainly never want to work, but the fact that they did or did not bring their parents was not the tipping point. I don't think you should bring your parents to ASD, but it's really not a monumental issue as you are making it out to be.

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Re: Bring a parent to law school visit?

Post by toothbrush » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:01 pm

This thread makes me hate future law school students more than ever.

What. the. fuck.

There's a few scenarios -
1 ) you bring parents and they stay with you and people may/may not judge you
2) you bring parents, they do their own thing and check out the school / don't hover and people may/may not judge you
3) you go solo and people may/may not judge you
4) you go with SO and people may / may not judge you

regardless there is some fuck in this thread who can argue you're being righteous or bratty or have no family or some shit.

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Post by 09042014 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:35 pm

toothbrush wrote:This thread makes me hate future law school students more than ever.

What. the. fuck.

There's a few scenarios -
1 ) you bring parents and they stay with you and people may/may not judge you
2) you bring parents, they do their own thing and check out the school / don't hover and people may/may not judge you
3) you go solo and people may/may not judge you
4) you go with SO and people may / may not judge you

regardless there is some fuck in this thread who can argue you're being righteous or bratty or have no family or some shit.

/end thread
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This thread really brought it

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Post by spleenworship » Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:41 pm

slawww wrote: The kid you mention just seems like a douche; would your opinion of him be great had he not brought his parents?
TBF, I likely would've figured out he was a douche eventually anyway. That said, his bringing his parents did two things. 1. I figured out he was a douche on day 1. 2. When combined with his innate douchenozzle tendencies, the parent bringing raised him from douche to douchetruck. Like, I would respect him a little more for being a douche if he wasn't so obviously a momma's boi.
toothbrush wrote:This thread makes me hate future law school students more than ever.

Good. You need to get started early. If you make the mistake of thinking that 70%* of your classmates aren't douches, then 1L is so much worse.

*on average. My school only has like 50% douches. I hear Chicago is like 90%. Somebody from there could probably confirm that for you.

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Post by Scotusnerd » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:24 pm

slawww wrote:So much hyperbole. So because 1 kid from one ASD who brought his parents was a douche, everyone should be judged as such? Don't understand that logic. When I was at ASD, I could tell who brought their parents, but I really had no interaction with any of them for the most part, so I had no reason to judge them and shun them for the rest of my life. The kid you mention just seems like a douche; would your opinion of him be great had he not brought his parents? There were a couple of people I met at ASD that I would certainly never want to work, but the fact that they did or did not bring their parents was not the tipping point. I don't think you should bring your parents to ASD, but it's really not a monumental issue as you are making it out to be.
The question is not "will everyone judge you forever for bringing a parent to ASD?"; the question was whether you should "bring a parent to law school visit?".

The answer from several adults in this thread is an emphatic no. Stop confusing the issue and accept the advice in the spirit it was offered.

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Post by alwayssunnyinfl » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:31 pm

Scotusnerd wrote:
slawww wrote:So much hyperbole. So because 1 kid from one ASD who brought his parents was a douche, everyone should be judged as such? Don't understand that logic. When I was at ASD, I could tell who brought their parents, but I really had no interaction with any of them for the most part, so I had no reason to judge them and shun them for the rest of my life. The kid you mention just seems like a douche; would your opinion of him be great had he not brought his parents? There were a couple of people I met at ASD that I would certainly never want to work, but the fact that they did or did not bring their parents was not the tipping point. I don't think you should bring your parents to ASD, but it's really not a monumental issue as you are making it out to be.
The question is not "will everyone judge you forever for bringing a parent to ASD?"; the question was whether you should "bring a parent to law school visit?".

The answer from several adults in this thread is an emphatic no. Stop confusing the issue and accept the advice in the spirit it was offered.
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Post by TaipeiMort » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:27 pm

This article makes me think that I've been a little bit hard on people here... apparently, parents are effective mass mailers. Bringing them to ASW/school/bar review may give them a better handle on how to help you out:

http://www.npr.org/2012/02/06/146464665 ... -workplace

"Nearly one-third said parents had submitted resumes on their child's behalf, some without even informing the child. One-quarter reported hearing from parents urging the employer to hire their son or daughter for a position. Four percent of respondents reported that a parent actually showed up for the candidate's job interview."

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Post by teiswei » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:02 pm

TaipeiMort wrote:This article makes me think that I've been a little bit hard on people here... apparently, parents are effective mass mailers. Bringing them to ASW/school/bar review may give them a better handle on how to help you out:

http://www.npr.org/2012/02/06/146464665 ... -workplace

"Nearly one-third said parents had submitted resumes on their child's behalf, some without even informing the child. One-quarter reported hearing from parents urging the employer to hire their son or daughter for a position. Four percent of respondents reported that a parent actually showed up for the candidate's job interview."
Speaking from a hiring standpoint, this is really ineffective and so are hand written notes. No hiring manager will EVER hire someone whose parent reaches out on their behalf. I've been in the corporate world for nearly nine years and can assure you that it will be passed around the office as a joke and the applicant will never be hired.

This is first hand experience from two massive corporations. Don't do it.

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Post by eric922 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:08 pm

teiswei wrote:
TaipeiMort wrote:This article makes me think that I've been a little bit hard on people here... apparently, parents are effective mass mailers. Bringing them to ASW/school/bar review may give them a better handle on how to help you out:

http://www.npr.org/2012/02/06/146464665 ... -workplace

"Nearly one-third said parents had submitted resumes on their child's behalf, some without even informing the child. One-quarter reported hearing from parents urging the employer to hire their son or daughter for a position. Four percent of respondents reported that a parent actually showed up for the candidate's job interview."
Speaking from a hiring standpoint, this is really ineffective and so are hand written notes. No hiring manager will EVER hire someone whose parent reaches out on their behalf. I've been in the corporate world for nearly nine years and can assure you that it will be passed around the office as a joke and the applicant will never be hired.

This is first hand experience from two massive corporations. Don't do it.
Well unless of course the parent who wrote said hand written letter is the CEO, but barring nepotism I agree with you.

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Post by slawww » Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:00 am

alwayssunnyinfl wrote:
Scotusnerd wrote: The question is not "will everyone judge you forever for bringing a parent to ASD?"; the question was whether you should "bring a parent to law school visit?".

The answer from several adults in this thread is an emphatic no. Stop confusing the issue and accept the advice in the spirit it was offered.
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Post by TaipeiMort » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:15 pm

teiswei wrote:
TaipeiMort wrote:This article makes me think that I've been a little bit hard on people here... apparently, parents are effective mass mailers. Bringing them to ASW/school/bar review may give them a better handle on how to help you out:

http://www.npr.org/2012/02/06/146464665 ... -workplace

"Nearly one-third said parents had submitted resumes on their child's behalf, some without even informing the child. One-quarter reported hearing from parents urging the employer to hire their son or daughter for a position. Four percent of respondents reported that a parent actually showed up for the candidate's job interview."
Speaking from a hiring standpoint, this is really ineffective and so are hand written notes. No hiring manager will EVER hire someone whose parent reaches out on their behalf. I've been in the corporate world for nearly nine years and can assure you that it will be passed around the office as a joke and the applicant will never be hired.

This is first hand experience from two massive corporations. Don't do it.
I was joking, but I guess it could help if the hiring partner also has helicopter parents.

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So, the consensus is that bringing a SO to an open house event is acceptable?

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Post by WalkingPlato » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:01 pm

md22 wrote:So, the consensus is that bringing a SO to an open house event is acceptable?
Bring whoever you want. If people judge you based on bringing someone with you, it just shows that they're immature. No grown person will care that you brought your parent or whoever. Sure, it may prevent you a bit from mingling with others, since others will be less likely to approach you seeing your parents or whoever around (normal), but, while it's not ordinary, bring whoever you want. The guy above is obviously either a troll or very immature.

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Post by Throttle » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:32 pm

TaipeiMort wrote:This article makes me think that I've been a little bit hard on people here... apparently, parents are effective mass mailers. Bringing them to ASW/school/bar review may give them a better handle on how to help you out:

http://www.npr.org/2012/02/06/146464665 ... -workplace

"Nearly one-third said parents had submitted resumes on their child's behalf, some without even informing the child. One-quarter reported hearing from parents urging the employer to hire their son or daughter for a position. Four percent of respondents reported that a parent actually showed up for the candidate's job interview."

haahah wow WTF is wrong with people.

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md22 wrote:So, the consensus is that bringing a SO to an open house event is acceptable?
Do you want to hear a funny story? It wasn't admitted students weekend, but rather orientation, when I met this guy and a girl he claimed was his fiancee (and that she was a non-law student). As it turns out, she had just met him that night, was a fellow law student, and was too drunk to contradict his story. They're not dating now or anything, it was just a rather strange event and I wanted to share it.

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cinephile wrote:
md22 wrote:So, the consensus is that bringing a SO to an open house event is acceptable?
Do you want to hear a funny story? It wasn't admitted students weekend, but rather orientation, when I met this guy and a girl he claimed was his fiancee (and that she was a non-law student). As it turns out, she had just met him that night, was a fellow law student, and was too drunk to contradict his story. They're not dating now or anything, it was just a rather strange event and I wanted to share it.
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