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"Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:10 pm
by Grizz
Which schools out there might be considered "fratty?" By this, I don't mean "full of dudes who get drunk all the time and try to hook up," but I do mean a school where many people are:

Preppy, conservative, primarily (though not necessarily) Southern.

eg., Guys who like outdoor sports and wear short shorts, polos, and croakies, and girl who like sundresses, pearls, and Vera Bradley stuff.

edit: clearing up a controversy on a previous thread.

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:12 pm
by Thirteen
SMU

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:14 pm
by dakatz
Sounds like UVA

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:17 pm
by holborn
oh hello. I couldn't stand all the douchbaggery on the 'bro' thread. They kept talking about Ed Hardy. I'll come over here now.

In the T14 I would say UVA, Duke, and Michigan (being a state school, there are all types represented and a decent greek presence). Also, just outside of the t14, there is Vandy which is definitely fratty.

Edit: I do think while there is a strong fratty presence in the south, using southern as a qualifier is not the best idea. After all, how would you describe places like Massachusettes, Connecticut, Marthas Vineyard, etc? Old money, all polos all the time, sailing, etc. Very fratty but not very southern. Or conservative.

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:17 pm
by angiej
Minus the "southern," Notre Dame. I live near - therefore I know for sure. :lol:

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:23 pm
by nahgems
I found Santa Clara to fit this definition of "fratty". But that could just be me.

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:25 pm
by Grizz
julesm2200 wrote:oh hello. I couldn't stand all the douchbaggery on the 'bro' thread. They kept talking about Ed Hardy. I'll come over here now.

In the T14 I would say UVA, Duke, and Michigan (being a state school, there are all types represented and a decent greek presence). Also, just outside of the t14, there is Vandy which is definitely fratty.

Edit: I do think while there is a strong fratty presence in the south, using southern as a qualifier is not the best idea. After all, how would you describe places like Massachusettes, Connecticut, Marthas Vineyard, etc? Old money, all polos all the time, sailing, etc. Very fratty but not very southern. Or conservative.
I would say fratty does not necessarily mean Southern, but fratty for me pretty much always equates with espousing some sort of conservative values. Taxation and govt. programs don't seem very frat.

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:28 pm
by holborn
rad law wrote:
julesm2200 wrote:oh hello. I couldn't stand all the douchbaggery on the 'bro' thread. They kept talking about Ed Hardy. I'll come over here now.

In the T14 I would say UVA, Duke, and Michigan (being a state school, there are all types represented and a decent greek presence). Also, just outside of the t14, there is Vandy which is definitely fratty.

Edit: I do think while there is a strong fratty presence in the south, using southern as a qualifier is not the best idea. After all, how would you describe places like Massachusettes, Connecticut, Marthas Vineyard, etc? Old money, all polos all the time, sailing, etc. Very fratty but not very southern. Or conservative.
I would say fratty does not necessarily mean Southern, but fratty for me pretty much always equates with espousing some sort of conservative values. Taxation and govt. programs don't seem very frat.
Agreed. But really, your use of conservative is really a nice way of saying wealthy. And while many rich people are on the fiscally conservative side, not all are. Aka my old money new england example.

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:31 pm
by Grizz
julesm2200 wrote: Agreed. But really, your use of conservative is really a nice way of saying wealthy. And while many rich people are on the fiscally conservative side, not all are. Aka my old money new england example.
Perhaps they are New England preppy (also cool) but not frat? I don't really know, I've never really thought about it this much before haha

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:36 pm
by holborn
I've pondered it occasionally. I mean, preppy and frat can't really be seperated. And perhaps there are 2 different types of fratty. the southern conservative fratty and the "inspiried by new england preppy" fratty. I would say both have equal merit.

Regardless, the search for the frattiest law school continues.

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:40 pm
by Grizz
julesm2200 wrote:I've pondered it occasionally. I mean, preppy and frat can't really be seperated. And perhaps there are 2 different types of fratty. the southern conservative fratty and the "inspiried by new england preppy" fratty. I would say both have equal merit.

Regardless, the search for the frattiest law school continues.
Indeed. Outside the T14, I was also thinking some of the big Southern state schools (UGA, Bama, Texas, perhaps UF) and maybe some of the private schools (Wake, Tulane, W&L, maybe even Emory?), but I'm not as familiar with those.

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:44 pm
by holborn
Oh definitly UGA and Bama. Texas I'm not too sure, and I'm leaning towards no. Austin (and Texas itself for that matter) don't strike me as very fratty, just very southern.

And I've heard W&L is extremely fratty. Like 99% of their undergrad is greek. (I perhaps just made up that statistic. But I'm pretty sure I'm right).

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:44 pm
by SamSeaborn2016
rad law wrote:Which schools out there might be considered "fratty?" By this, I don't mean "full of dudes who get drunk all the time and try to hook up," but I do mean a school where many people are:

Preppy, conservative, primarily (though not necessarily) Southern.

eg., Guys who like outdoor sports and wear short shorts, polos, and croakies, and girl who like sundresses, pearls, and Vera Bradley stuff.

edit: clearing up a controversy on a previous thread.

I gotta ask, what the hell are croakies? Maybe I'm just old.

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:46 pm
by lawhawk
UGA, Bama, Ole Miss...SEC schools in general + UNC and UVA.

Essentially, it will be the same schools as the fratty undergrad schools.

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:46 pm
by holborn
SamSeaborn2016 wrote:
rad law wrote:Which schools out there might be considered "fratty?" By this, I don't mean "full of dudes who get drunk all the time and try to hook up," but I do mean a school where many people are:

Preppy, conservative, primarily (though not necessarily) Southern.

eg., Guys who like outdoor sports and wear short shorts, polos, and croakies, and girl who like sundresses, pearls, and Vera Bradley stuff.

edit: clearing up a controversy on a previous thread.

I gotta ask, what the hell are croakies? Maybe I'm just old.

http://croakies.com/

You wouldn't want your ray bans to fall off while tailgating would you?

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:48 pm
by najumobi
lawhawk wrote:UGA, Bama, Ole Miss...SEC schools in general + UNC and UVA.

Essentially, it will be the same schools as the fratty undergrad schools.
eh....unc ug is less fratty than sec schools and UNC law to a much lesser degree than its undergrad

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:54 pm
by lawhawk
najumobi wrote:
lawhawk wrote:UGA, Bama, Ole Miss...SEC schools in general + UNC and UVA.

Essentially, it will be the same schools as the fratty undergrad schools.
eh....unc ug is less fratty than sec schools and UNC law to a much lesser degree than its undergrad

This is true, but parts of it can be very frat (P. Bob's, Top of the Hill, etc). I can tell you this as I am currently in undergrad there. Can't really vouch for the law school though.

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:55 pm
by Grizz
julesm2200 wrote: http://croakies.com/

You wouldn't want your ray bans to fall off while tailgating would you?
Plus, it is important to look real frat in class with your Costa Del Mars hanging off your neck. Nothing says "I like to fish" and possibly "I like to tailgate, but I say I fish" better than Costa Del Mars haha

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:56 pm
by ec2xs
Thirteen wrote:SMU
TITCR

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:56 pm
by mhd08
Outside of the T14.... Florida State and UF. Take it from someone who went there. I'm not like that at all and I couldn't seem to get away from it. iiick.

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:02 pm
by najumobi
lawhawk wrote:
najumobi wrote:
lawhawk wrote:UGA, Bama, Ole Miss...SEC schools in general + UNC and UVA.

Essentially, it will be the same schools as the fratty undergrad schools.
eh....unc ug is less fratty than sec schools and UNC law to a much lesser degree than its undergrad
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/p ... &p=2374590

This is true, but parts of it can be very frat (P. Bob's, Top of the Hill, etc). I can tell you this as I am currently in undergrad there. Can't really vouch for the law school though.
haha...nice unc undergrad too, though not living in chapel hill anymore.

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:30 pm
by tarheel87
Someone's been spending a bit too much time on Oldrow. But anyways whoever said SEC+UNC+UVA is generally correct, I'd probably include SMU and Texas too.

EDIT: as a UNC greek I take offense in those who said UNC isn't fratty haha

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:37 pm
by jeeptiger09
SMU, Texas (parts), SEC (except UF), Emory, Wake is okay, UNC is okay, maybe even Baylor.

UVa isn't bad, but there's a lot of liberals.

UF is terrible, have to disagree. FSU isn't bad.

Whoever said Michigan and Notre Dame is backwards.

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:41 pm
by Grizz
tarheel87 wrote:Someone's been spending a bit too much time on Oldrow. But anyways whoever said SEC+UNC+UVA is generally correct, I'd probably include SMU and Texas too.

EDIT: as a UNC greek I take offense in those who said UNC isn't fratty haha
I'm not a huge fan, but I am in one of their pictures (which I didn't submit, mind you).

Re: "Fratty" Law Schools

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:44 pm
by Grizz
jeeptiger09 wrote:Emory
Really? I know their undergrad population at least is generally liberal, not Southern, and Ed Hardy influenced.