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wannabeu wrote:Anyone received Acceptance E-mail? The status checker says they will send in 10 business days but still got nothing.![]()
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urmlaw17 wrote:wannabeu wrote:Anyone received Acceptance E-mail? The status checker says they will send in 10 business days but still got nothing.![]()
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I literally got my email 10 days after status checker date
wannabeu wrote:urmlaw17 wrote:wannabeu wrote:Anyone received Acceptance E-mail? The status checker says they will send in 10 business days but still got nothing.![]()
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I literally got my email 10 days after status checker date
Yoe mean 10 days including weekends? or 10 business days?
urmlaw17 wrote:wannabeu wrote:urmlaw17 wrote:wannabeu wrote:Anyone received Acceptance E-mail? The status checker says they will send in 10 business days but still got nothing.![]()
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I literally got my email 10 days after status checker date
Yoe mean 10 days including weekends? or 10 business days?
Including weekends
wannabeu wrote:urmlaw17 wrote:wannabeu wrote:urmlaw17 wrote:wannabeu wrote:Anyone received Acceptance E-mail? The status checker says they will send in 10 business days but still got nothing.![]()
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I literally got my email 10 days after status checker date
Yoe mean 10 days including weekends? or 10 business days?
Including weekends
Thankd for reply. Did email include scholi info??..
CaliGeorge wrote:Be careful where you're applying:
https://abovethelaw.com/2017/11/the-law ... ents-2018/
https://abovethelaw.com/2016/01/which-l ... transfers/
https://abovethelaw.com/2017/12/a-break ... july-2017/
My roommate that transferred from there can confirm the horror stories at Hastings -
1. very poor employment numbers (competing with Berkeley & Stanford kids in saturated bay area market)
2. administration is poor. My friend had 5 con law professors in one semester and a civil procedures professor who didn't want to teach. That same civil procedures professor was a the previous dean who burned library books that included prior practice exams to free up space in their library. I've heard iffy things that their current Dean wrote a "scholarly" paper on how he thinks Battered Women Syndrome doesn't exist.
3. very poor bar passing score - McGeorge & Cal Western did better.
4. according to him, they also did their best to keep you from transferring e.g. rejecting requests to write letters of recommendations.
5. probably the most expensive rent in the entire country... also located in the least ideal location - the SF tenderloin where you regularly hear gunshots.
I've heard some good things like a strong alumni network, good moot court team, and a new building they're adding.... but it's important to consider the cons too.
lawschoolgirl312 wrote:" I'm finishing up my 1L year at Hastings and much of this hasn't been my experience.
1) Hastings is ranked 29th nationally, sending 19.7% of the 2016 class into big law. We were ranked just slightly behind Emory and Notre Dame in this regard and well above Pepperdine and Loyola - schools with similar LSAT scores. Loyola's 2016 graduaing class sent just 9.2% into big law, and Pepperdine just under 5%! "
Wait, isn't Hastings ranked at 51 currently? Where did you get this number of ranking from? Not trying to be a dick, but want to know because I would consider Hastings if it wasn't ranked at 51, which US News has been saying it is
CALaw717 wrote:lawschoolgirl312 wrote:" I'm finishing up my 1L year at Hastings and much of this hasn't been my experience.
1) Hastings is ranked 29th nationally, sending 19.7% of the 2016 class into big law. We were ranked just slightly behind Emory and Notre Dame in this regard and well above Pepperdine and Loyola - schools with similar LSAT scores. Loyola's 2016 graduaing class sent just 9.2% into big law, and Pepperdine just under 5%! "
Wait, isn't Hastings ranked at 51 currently? Where did you get this number of ranking from? Not trying to be a dick, but want to know because I would consider Hastings if it wasn't ranked at 51, which US News has been saying it is
I had attached a link as well. Hastings is ranked 29th nationally with regard to the % of their grads that they send into big law (which the ABA defines as firms with 100+ attorneys). Of 300 grads in 2016, we sent 8 to firms with 100-250 attys and 51 to firms with 500+ attorneys. 59/300 = 19.7% and we are 29th nationally in this metric, and only marginally behind Emory and Notre Dame in this metric. US News, we're ranked 54th nationally although many people think a better metric is the % of grads that go into prestigious positions like big law and federal clerkships. In comparison Pepperdine's 2016 graduating class had 4 grads go to firms with 100-250 attys and 5 grads to firms with 500+ attys. With a graduating class of 181 students, that's 9/181 or just under 5%. Here's the link again: http://employmentsummary.abaquestionnaire.org/
CaliGeorge wrote:My roommate that transferred from there can confirm the horror stories at Hastings -
1. very poor employment numbers (competing with Berkeley & Stanford kids in saturated bay area market)
2. administration is poor. My friend had 5 con law professors in one semester and a civil procedures professor who didn't want to teach. That same civil procedures professor was a the previous dean who burned library books that included prior practice exams to free up space in their library. I've heard iffy things that their current Dean wrote a "scholarly" paper on how he thinks Battered Women Syndrome doesn't exist.
3. very poor bar passing score - McGeorge & Cal Western did better.
4. according to him, they also did their best to keep you from transferring e.g. rejecting requests to write letters of recommendations.
5. probably the most expensive rent in the entire country... also located in the least ideal location - the SF tenderloin where you regularly hear gunshots.
I've heard some good things like a strong alumni network, good moot court team, and a new building they're adding.... but it's important to consider the cons too.
CALaw717 wrote:CaliGeorge wrote:Be careful where you're applying:
https://abovethelaw.com/2017/11/the-law ... ents-2018/
https://abovethelaw.com/2016/01/which-l ... transfers/
https://abovethelaw.com/2017/12/a-break ... july-2017/
4) How can you argue both ways - listing huge numbers of transfer students but then saying the administration/professors aren't helpful to potential transfers? As mentioned, nearly 15% of our 2017 graduating class transferred and one can't transfer w/out letters of recommendation...
Bigjuicy123 wrote:So, I was recently accepted on a decent scholarship, but based on conversations I’ve had with people that actually attended Hastings, I’m a bit skeptical. A couple of questions:
1) Everyone keeps talking about how Hastings pumps a lot of students to UCLA/Cal. Quick question: do transfers get to participate in OCI? In what way does attending a higher-ranked school helped with employment access if you miss out on OCI anyways? A friend of mine told me a horror story of a student that killed it at Hastings, transferred to UCLA, missed out on OCI, and ended up dropping out.
2) The interesting thing about Hastings is the it’s reputation-ranking ratio is quite high—that is, people, especially Baby Boomers, continue to have a good perception of Hastings because it WAS a good school. However, there seems to be a consensus that the average student quality has just declined (Bar Passage rates, job placement, etc.). To what extend does the past success—and concomitant “prestige”—that Hastings to enjoy help the current crop of students? Jack shit? Or are alumni willing to help out existing students? I'm just trying to figure out whether Hastings enjoys any advantages from its past glory that other similarly-ranked schools do not?
3) Can you comment on your undergraduate background and how academically rigorous compared it was compared to Hastings? I.e. what it takes to get Top 5-10%
real possibility to Hastings students in the top 25-30%
Bigjuicy123 wrote:real possibility to Hastings students in the top 25-30%
Do you have any stats on this? I'm not trying to be rude, its just a relative of mine graduated top 5% at Hastings... and did not end up in BigLaw. Of course, I don't know the whole story, but I just want to have the best idea of how realistic it is to get those types of jobs out of Hastings.
Bigjuicy123 wrote:real possibility to Hastings students in the top 25-30%
Do you have any stats on this? I'm not trying to be rude, its just a relative of mine graduated top 5% at Hastings... and did not end up in BigLaw. Of course, I don't know the whole story, but I just want to have the best idea of how realistic it is to get those types of jobs out of Hastings.
265489164158 wrote:CaliGeorge wrote:My roommate that transferred from there can confirm the horror stories at Hastings -
1. very poor employment numbers (competing with Berkeley & Stanford kids in saturated bay area market)
2. administration is poor. My friend had 5 con law professors in one semester and a civil procedures professor who didn't want to teach. That same civil procedures professor was a the previous dean who burned library books that included prior practice exams to free up space in their library. I've heard iffy things that their current Dean wrote a "scholarly" paper on how he thinks Battered Women Syndrome doesn't exist.
3. very poor bar passing score - McGeorge & Cal Western did better.
4. according to him, they also did their best to keep you from transferring e.g. rejecting requests to write letters of recommendations.
5. probably the most expensive rent in the entire country... also located in the least ideal location - the SF tenderloin where you regularly hear gunshots.
I've heard some good things like a strong alumni network, good moot court team, and a new building they're adding.... but it's important to consider the cons too.
To set the record straight, your roommate transferred from Hastings to Harvard, right, so clearly the Hastings 1L gamble worked? Also, I was in the section referenced with the five Con Law professors in one semester (and your roommate was not). What actually happened was that our first professor had a family medical emergency, three other professors subbed a class or two using his syllabus (and it was clear they were pinch hitting and not permanent), while they searched for a permanent one, who was the fifth and final professor. Was this ideal? No, it really wasn't and we had to cobble it together and teach ourselves.
The civ pro story is also not exactly true. It is true the professor had a VERY different style that did not sit well with 80% of the class, but he made himself overly available for hours each week to meet with students and look at practice answers. Another professor with a more concrete teaching style offered extra review sessions, which were recorded and available to all. While the administration did not address either of these situations in the way we would have hoped (and many people are still angry), they did try to accommodate us and offered us all preferred registration for this year for Civ Pro II and Con Law II with any professor we wanted to try to appease the mob.
Yes, sf rent is expensive, but it is a terrific place to be. I have a theory that some students might spend a bit too much time enjoy the outdoors, nightlife, and music scene, which could be hurting their academic performance, but that is their choice. The flip side is that the externship opportunities are outstanding, especially during the school year when we don't have to compete. I know many people externing right now at the SEC, US Attorneys Office, USDC Northern District, CAG, California Supreme Court, EFF, and the ACLU.
As for bar passage rate and employment rates, yes, pretty grim if in bottom half of the class. It is really tough to know before getting to law school how you will actually do there.
Best of luck to you. I would not discourage anyone from considering Hastings because it has been great for me.
Bender7 wrote:Rankings have been leaked. Hasttings is officially tier 2 now. With one of the lowest bar passage rates in the state and a sinking reputation, I would strongly avoid Hastings.
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