Re: TLS c/o 2021 Applicants Thread
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:55 am
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Plenty of 173s get Rubies, especially with that GPA - you're good.Platopus wrote:Checkin' in!!
3.95+ / 173/ 2 years WE
I'll probably be blanketing the T-13 (minus a select couple of schools), and am really looking to get some $$$ for scholarships. Interested in clerking ---> general Chicago Biglaw, but not entirely dead set on this either.
Still considering a retake, since I'm probably out of contention for named scholarships (like a Ruby ) and don't want to leave $$$$ on the table, but I don't know if I can realistically do this before September (I really put work on the back burner for my June take). I also hit my PT average pretty much squarely on the head, so I think I would probably actually need to see the needle move on PT's before I was confident enough to retake.
Top choices are Chicago, Harvard (self-admitted preftige whore), & Northwestern
Working on a legal capacity of some sort (administrative assistant or paralegal at law firm or court or something like that) might be a good move.abujabal wrote:Yo so advice would be appreciated here:
We're basically numbers twins! Well your GPA is slightly higher than mine but everything else is the same. With a 171 its going to be nearly impossible to crack YS, and still pretty unlikely to crack H. Work experience would help, but a higher LSAT would help a lot more.mrcfa1995 wrote:Checking in mates. Senior with 3.85, 171 & average softs. Not completely sure whether to apply this cycle though, because I want to crack YHS and feel like a year of volunteering (City Year or something similar) or WE teaching public school is the only way I'd have a chance. I would also do it for the life experience and opportunity to give back, not just taking advantage of americorps lol
You have even odds of beating your average and hitting below it. I'd say see if you can get your PT average up, and if you can't, just withdraw.Slippin' Jimmy wrote:With a 171 its going to be nearly impossible to crack YS, and still pretty unlikely to crack H. Work experience would help, but a higher LSAT would help a lot more.
Speaking of which, I'm giving a tiny bit of thought to a September retake. I did score in the upper 170s a few times but my PT average was 169, and I don't know if its a good idea to try again when I've already beat my average.
Who is your consultant? I have a call with Karen later today and I'll probably decide on whether to sign up later this week.principalagent wrote:Just locked in a consultant with Spivey for the cycle. I'm now getting equally excited and anxious for the next few months
I may do this but at this point I'm not sure. If I were to get into H/S I would probably get minimal need based aid due to my parent's income, and I would lean strongly to taking $$ at a lower T13. Being over the LSAT 75ths for every target school outside of HYS I'm not sure how much a higher score would help at my main targets, and retaking just to improve the chances of an option I would most likely turn down seems silly.rowdy wrote:You have even odds of beating your average and hitting below it. I'd say see if you can get your PT average up, and if you can't, just withdraw.Slippin' Jimmy wrote:With a 171 its going to be nearly impossible to crack YS, and still pretty unlikely to crack H. Work experience would help, but a higher LSAT would help a lot more.
Speaking of which, I'm giving a tiny bit of thought to a September retake. I did score in the upper 170s a few times but my PT average was 169, and I don't know if its a good idea to try again when I've already beat my average.
Are you telling me you don't want to take it again for funSlippin' Jimmy wrote:I may do this but at this point I'm not sure. If I were to get into H/S I would probably get minimal need based aid due to my parent's income, and I would lean strongly to taking $$ at a lower T13. Being over the LSAT 75ths for every target school outside of HYS I'm not sure how much a higher score would help at my main targets, and retaking just to improve the chances of an option I would most likely turn down seems silly.rowdy wrote:You have even odds of beating your average and hitting below it. I'd say see if you can get your PT average up, and if you can't, just withdraw.Slippin' Jimmy wrote:With a 171 its going to be nearly impossible to crack YS, and still pretty unlikely to crack H. Work experience would help, but a higher LSAT would help a lot more.
Speaking of which, I'm giving a tiny bit of thought to a September retake. I did score in the upper 170s a few times but my PT average was 169, and I don't know if its a good idea to try again when I've already beat my average.
Yeah that's what I thought but I don't want to retake. Spoke to a partner at Akerman today and he told me not to obsess over prestige if I'm just looking for a job in biglaw that's not at Cravath or some other crazy wall street firm. What are your targets btw? Is CCN reasonable for our numbers?Slippin' Jimmy wrote:With a 171 its going to be nearly impossible to crack YS, and still pretty unlikely to crack H. Work experience would help, but a higher LSAT would help a lot more.
Depends on who you ask. I'm pretty debt averse, so with similar numbers, I'd be hoping for Dillard/Darrow/Mordecai and go for free to VMD (or hell even ED at NU). That being said, others seem to value NYC much higher (for some reason I don't understand) and would say that CCN at half or just under half would be a good idea.mrcfa1995 wrote:Yeah that's what I thought but I don't want to retake. Spoke to a partner at Akerman today and he told me not to obsess over prestige if I'm just looking for a job in biglaw that's not at Cravath or some other crazy wall street firm. What are your targets btw? Is CCN reasonable for our numbers?Slippin' Jimmy wrote:With a 171 its going to be nearly impossible to crack YS, and still pretty unlikely to crack H. Work experience would help, but a higher LSAT would help a lot more.
UVA/Duke are far and away my top two (realistic) choices. Based on their Fed Clerk/Biglaw #s they are criminally underrated, and the fact that they both place strongly in DC/secondary southern markets is just icing on the cake. If you can avoid a yield protect waitlist you should be looking at significant money at both (Duke seems to give out $$ more consistently while UVA has greater fluctuations in the amount given). Per mylsn we have a great chance at NYU and a tossup chance at Columbia, but I really don't see much benefit in going to either over Duke/UVA, especially as there should be a huge scholarship gap. Chicago and Penn would be really tough due to their obsession with high GPAs, and the latter wouldn't be worth going to over our other options anyways. I'm planning to blanket the T13 from Harvard down, but will leave out Chicago, Penn and Berkley.mrcfa1995 wrote:Yeah that's what I thought but I don't want to retake. Spoke to a partner at Akerman today and he told me not to obsess over prestige if I'm just looking for a job in biglaw that's not at Cravath or some other crazy wall street firm. What are your targets btw? Is CCN reasonable for our numbers?Slippin' Jimmy wrote:With a 171 its going to be nearly impossible to crack YS, and still pretty unlikely to crack H. Work experience would help, but a higher LSAT would help a lot more.
Do I really have a shot at a Dillard/Mordecai with my numbers? I assumed I'd be confined to half-75% scholarship due to my GPA being below 75th at Duke and 50th at UVA.Future Ex-Engineer wrote:Depends on who you ask. I'm pretty debt averse, so with similar numbers, I'd be hoping for Dillard/Darrow/Mordecai and go for free to VMD (or hell even ED at NU). That being said, others seem to value NYC much higher (for some reason I don't understand) and would say that CCN at half or just under half would be a good idea.mrcfa1995 wrote:Yeah that's what I thought but I don't want to retake. Spoke to a partner at Akerman today and he told me not to obsess over prestige if I'm just looking for a job in biglaw that's not at Cravath or some other crazy wall street firm. What are your targets btw? Is CCN reasonable for our numbers?Slippin' Jimmy wrote:With a 171 its going to be nearly impossible to crack YS, and still pretty unlikely to crack H. Work experience would help, but a higher LSAT would help a lot more.
I am willing to take out the loans, just wondering if it's reasonable to assume I'm getting into 1-2 out of CCN. Will also consider going lower T14 to save the $, but I like the idea of going to NYC for three years lolFuture Ex-Engineer wrote:That being said, others seem to value NYC much higher (for some reason I don't understand) and would say that CCN at half or just under half would be a good idea.
forgive any pedantic-ness in my response.mrcfa1995 wrote:I am willing to take out the loans, just wondering if it's reasonable to assume I'm getting into 1-2 out of CCN. Will also consider going lower T14 to save the $, but I like the idea of going to NYC for three years lolFuture Ex-Engineer wrote:That being said, others seem to value NYC much higher (for some reason I don't understand) and would say that CCN at half or just under half would be a good idea.
Mordecai I know less about, but I'd expect applying early and being LSAT > 75th, GPA > 50th at Duke would net you at least an interview.Slippin' Jimmy wrote:Do I really have a shot at a Dillard/Mordecai with my numbers? I assumed I'd be confined to half-75% scholarship due to my GPA being below 75th at Duke and 50th at UVA.Future Ex-Engineer wrote:Depends on who you ask. I'm pretty debt averse, so with similar numbers, I'd be hoping for Dillard/Darrow/Mordecai and go for free to VMD (or hell even ED at NU). That being said, others seem to value NYC much higher (for some reason I don't understand) and would say that CCN at half or just under half would be a good idea.mrcfa1995 wrote:Yeah that's what I thought but I don't want to retake. Spoke to a partner at Akerman today and he told me not to obsess over prestige if I'm just looking for a job in biglaw that's not at Cravath or some other crazy wall street firm. What are your targets btw? Is CCN reasonable for our numbers?Slippin' Jimmy wrote:With a 171 its going to be nearly impossible to crack YS, and still pretty unlikely to crack H. Work experience would help, but a higher LSAT would help a lot more.
honestly plato you probably have a better chance at a Ruby than I do just because of your WE. If you get it and I don't that will be proof positive of the impact of WE on named scholarships (or conversely the negative impact of KJD)Platopus wrote:Checkin' in!!
3.95+ / 173/ 2 years WE
I'll probably be blanketing the T-13 (minus a select couple of schools), and am really looking to get some $$$ for scholarships. Interested in clerking ---> general Chicago Biglaw, but not entirely dead set on this either.
Still considering a retake, since I'm probably out of contention for named scholarships (like a Ruby ) and don't want to leave $$$$ on the table, but I don't know if I can realistically do this before September (I really put work on the back burner for my June take). I also hit my PT average pretty much squarely on the head, so I think I would probably actually need to see the needle move on PT's before I was confident enough to retake.
Top choices are Chicago, Harvard (self-admitted preftige whore), & Northwestern
Ahhhhhhhem. What was your LSAT score again?????????? I think you forgot to add that part!!!!!!!!!!!!!1rowdy wrote:All y'all sitting here talking about Mordecais and Rubies like a bunch of international super villains and I'm just sitting here with my <<<25 GPA whistling
You're all in a great place. If you don't have a poison pill in your application you'll have plenty of options.
yeah I was thinking this as well - someone is being bashfulit's allgood wrote:Ahhhhhhhem. What was your LSAT score again?????????? I think you forgot to add that part!!!!!!!!!!!!!1rowdy wrote:All y'all sitting here talking about Mordecais and Rubies like a bunch of international super villains and I'm just sitting here with my <<<25 GPA whistling
You're all in a great place. If you don't have a poison pill in your application you'll have plenty of options.
Lol in the game of admissions, some of you are going to straight up clown on me and you know it. Which is cool with me, because I get to tell my grandkids about how I met Justice so-and-so on an internet forum.dm1683 wrote:yeah I was thinking this as well - someone is being bashfulit's allgood wrote:Ahhhhhhhem. What was your LSAT score again?????????? I think you forgot to add that part!!!!!!!!!!!!!1rowdy wrote:All y'all sitting here talking about Mordecais and Rubies like a bunch of international super villains and I'm just sitting here with my <<<25 GPA whistling
You're all in a great place. If you don't have a poison pill in your application you'll have plenty of options.