TLS c/o 2021 Applicants Thread Forum

[amta]

It's still early, and I'm not done submitting apps, but I'd say I've met with about as much success as I could reasonably expect this soon after receiving my LSAT score, and I feel like there's more good news to come soon.

thats awesome. waiting for acceptances was worse than waiting for my lsat score. youll find that some will be frustratingly slow. i got an acceptance every day for like two weeks and then radio silence from my remaining schools for a month.

[emilyLl]

hows everyones cycle going?

As well as it could be, at this point. In at UVA, Duke, GULC, and my state school with a full ride. Trying not to get my hopes up too much for my reach schools.

[OakBrook2021]

hows everyones cycle going?

Taking a long hard look at a retake lol

[amta]

hows everyones cycle going?

Taking a long hard look at a retake lol

do it

[ebrook93]

Am I correct in assuming that a lot of the admissions committees will convene for the first time tomorrow (11/1)?

[amta]

Am I correct in assuming that a lot of the admissions committees will convene for the first time tomorrow (11/1)?

no

[TheKingLives]

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[DorkothyParker]

I'm spooktacularly poor and waiting on my work incentive bonus to put in my last (?) two applications. I only put in a couple and scheduled an interview for one so that one will be pushed back at least a couple weeks.
Which is great, because I love the cool blanket of insecurity that envelopes me in unrelenting dread and uncertainty regarding my future. So it's really a win.

[SopranoSaxophone]

Been getting some interesting feedback re: C&F disclosures and could use this board's insight. If a school's app says to disclose any infraction "excluding minor traffic violations," and you therefore exclude your minor traffic violation on the app, will a state bar that requires traffic violation disclosure see this as an issue when you disclose the traffic violation for the bar? The app specifically said to exclude minor traffic violations, so to my understanding, you would be following the directions by not disclosing it rather than being perceived as trying to hide anything. Some seem to disagree with this assessment and say disclosure even when the app specifies to "exclude minor traffic violations" is the correct way to handle C&F because a state bar could potentially see this as a failure to disclose issue. Can this really be true? i.e. "I see here the school you applied to said you should exclude your speeding ticket and you excluded your speeding ticket, so now you're facing bar admission C&F consequences for excluding your speeding ticket on your law school app even though you disclosed it to us when we asked for it."

[Platopus]

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[SopranoSaxophone]

Been getting some interesting feedback re: C&F disclosures and could use this board's insight. If a school's app says to disclose any infraction "excluding minor traffic violations," and you therefore exclude your minor traffic violation on the app, will a state bar that requires traffic violation disclosure see this as an issue when you disclose the traffic violation for the bar? The app specifically said to exclude minor traffic violations, so to my understanding, you would be following the directions by not disclosing it rather than being perceived as trying to hide anything. Some seem to disagree with this assessment and say disclosure even when the app specifies to "exclude minor traffic violations" is the correct way to handle C&F because a state bar could potentially see this as a failure to disclose issue. Can this really be true? i.e. "I see here the school you applied to said you should exclude your speeding ticket and you excluded your speeding ticket, so now you're facing bar admission C&F consequences for excluding your speeding ticket on your law school app even though you disclosed it to us when we asked for it."

If it was truly a minor traffic violation (i.e., textig while driving or speeding 5mph or something) I don't see how it could be a problem if you followed the app question and didnt disclose. However "minor traffic violation" isn't really defined on any of the apps, so you need to be careful of not including something. For example, I got busted speeding 29mph over the limit and had to go to traffic court. At the time it was just traffic school and a fine, but my state now considers this a misdemeanor (even though it wasnt at the time)... so is that a minor traffic ticket? I chose to disclose because in 3 years I dont want to have problems and it has almost a 0% chance of affecting my admission outcomes

I would also tend to treat anything that feels ambiguous as more than "minor" but I would surmise that speeding 10mph or less over the limit, failure to yield at a stop sign, failure to signal, tail light out, etc. to all fall within that "minor" category. Broadly, I think of it as any traffic infraction that does not require a court appearance as part of the fine. (In my state, all of the above traffic offenses are considered "noncriminal traffic citations," not misdemeanors). I would not feel compelled to disclose any of the above if there was a C&F caveat for "minor traffic violations," but perhaps this is wrongheaded on my part?

[Platopus]

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[TheKingLives]

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[BronxToBoston]

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[Bojack93]

Can anyone speak to how the traffic ticket situation would actually play out when applying for admission to the bar? Granted it would differ by state, but if you disclose a speeding ticket to the bar that wasn't on your law school application, is that really a problem? People keep saying that they hope they don't find out in 3 years that x school didn't have a different interpretation of "minor traffic violation," but wouldn't the problem at that point be with the bar and not with the school? Would the folks at the bar go back and analyze the language on your law school's C&F question and determine that you should have disclosed it? If so, it seems like they would be expecting you to effectively parse through legal language before starting law school.

Maybe I'm being naive but it's difficult to envision the situation in which this creates an issue. If anyone could provide a summary of the process that would be helpful.

[SopranoSaxophone]

Can anyone speak to how the traffic ticket situation would actually play out when applying for admission to the bar? Granted it would differ by state, but if you disclose a speeding ticket to the bar that wasn't on your law school application, is that really a problem? People keep saying that they hope they don't find out in 3 years that x school didn't have a different interpretation of "minor traffic violation," but wouldn't the problem at that point be with the bar and not with the school? Would the folks at the bar go back and analyze the language on your law school's C&F question and determine that you should have disclosed it? If so, it seems like they would be expecting you to effectively parse through legal language before starting law school.

Maybe I'm being naive but it's difficult to envision the situation in which this creates an issue. If anyone could provide a summary of the process that would be helpful.

I second this question, have similar concerns, and would love some insight.

[chargers21]

Can anyone speak to how the traffic ticket situation would actually play out when applying for admission to the bar? Granted it would differ by state, but if you disclose a speeding ticket to the bar that wasn't on your law school application, is that really a problem? People keep saying that they hope they don't find out in 3 years that x school didn't have a different interpretation of "minor traffic violation," but wouldn't the problem at that point be with the bar and not with the school? Would the folks at the bar go back and analyze the language on your law school's C&F question and determine that you should have disclosed it? If so, it seems like they would be expecting you to effectively parse through legal language before starting law school.

Maybe I'm being naive but it's difficult to envision the situation in which this creates an issue. If anyone could provide a summary of the process that would be helpful.

It's not an issue. If you law school app says to leave out a minor traffic violation like speeding and you do, the bar will not care that you include it on the bar application and not your law school application. They will see the language from the initial application. People just like to worry more than they should.

[blackmamba8]

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[Hennessy]

lol

Because I am eager to consider you for admission, I've reserved these special privileges for you: a waived application fee and automatic scholarship consideration.

[VinnyChase]

Just sent in virtually all my apps - time to get active the forum

[Platopus]

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[VinnyChase]

lol

Because I am eager to consider you for admission, I've reserved these special privileges for you: a waived application fee and automatic scholarship consideration.

so jelly

[NavyNuke]

All I know is thank goodness for that Duke PT admit, cause this radio silence from the rest of the T14 is stressing me out!

[OakBrook2021]

All I know is thank goodness for that Duke PT admit, cause this radio silence from the rest of the T14 is stressing me out!

+1

[chrysippusofsoli]

All I know is thank goodness for that Duke PT admit, cause this radio silence from the rest of the T14 is stressing me out!

+1

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