It was an email that basically said they did a preliminary review of my app and recommend that I retake before they make a decision. It’s funny though because on because of LSN they’ve already admitted someone with an LSAT below their 25%.Mikey wrote:I mean, was it like a general type of email (call? etc.?) or were they directly telling YOU to retake?Eli1 wrote:If a school recommends that you retake the LSAT (even though you’re above their 25%), what’s the best way to tell them no? It’s not my top choice, just thought I’d throw an app in because of the waiver.
either way I find it kind of weird a school would do that. i wasn't even aware schools could tell you to retake
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I don't think I've ever heard of a school doing that, wtf are you registered for the December test, if so maybe that's why they said it? if you're not then I have no idea... lolEli1 wrote:It was an email that basically said they did a preliminary review of my app and recommend that I retake before they make a decision. It’s funny though because on because of LSN they’ve already admitted someone with an LSAT below their 25%.Mikey wrote:I mean, was it like a general type of email (call? etc.?) or were they directly telling YOU to retake?Eli1 wrote:If a school recommends that you retake the LSAT (even though you’re above their 25%), what’s the best way to tell them no? It’s not my top choice, just thought I’d throw an app in because of the waiver.
either way I find it kind of weird a school would do that. i wasn't even aware schools could tell you to retake
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I’m using the June LSAT so I don’t have to worry about studying during senior year so no I’d have to wait until February to even be able to take it again. I’m probably just going to email back and tell them no lolMikey wrote:I don't think I've ever heard of a school doing that, wtf are you registered for the December test, if so maybe that's why they said it? if you're not then I have no idea... lolEli1 wrote:It was an email that basically said they did a preliminary review of my app and recommend that I retake before they make a decision. It’s funny though because on because of LSN they’ve already admitted someone with an LSAT below their 25%.Mikey wrote:I mean, was it like a general type of email (call? etc.?) or were they directly telling YOU to retake?Eli1 wrote:If a school recommends that you retake the LSAT (even though you’re above their 25%), what’s the best way to tell them no? It’s not my top choice, just thought I’d throw an app in because of the waiver.
either way I find it kind of weird a school would do that. i wasn't even aware schools could tell you to retake
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that's weird af lolEli1 wrote:It was an email that basically said they did a preliminary review of my app and recommend that I retake before they make a decision. It’s funny though because on because of LSN they’ve already admitted someone with an LSAT below their 25%.Mikey wrote:I mean, was it like a general type of email (call? etc.?) or were they directly telling YOU to retake?Eli1 wrote:If a school recommends that you retake the LSAT (even though you’re above their 25%), what’s the best way to tell them no? It’s not my top choice, just thought I’d throw an app in because of the waiver.
either way I find it kind of weird a school would do that. i wasn't even aware schools could tell you to retake
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I've heard of it before. It means that they are going to reject him without better numbersMikey wrote:I don't think I've ever heard of a school doing that, wtf are you registered for the December test, if so maybe that's why they said it? if you're not then I have no idea... lolEli1 wrote:It was an email that basically said they did a preliminary review of my app and recommend that I retake before they make a decision. It’s funny though because on because of LSN they’ve already admitted someone with an LSAT below their 25%.Mikey wrote:I mean, was it like a general type of email (call? etc.?) or were they directly telling YOU to retake?Eli1 wrote:If a school recommends that you retake the LSAT (even though you’re above their 25%), what’s the best way to tell them no? It’s not my top choice, just thought I’d throw an app in because of the waiver.
either way I find it kind of weird a school would do that. i wasn't even aware schools could tell you to retake
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What are the chances of them getting in then, do you think? For instance, if they take it and improve 1 or 2 points, would it still be a rejection?chargers21 wrote:I've heard of it before. It means that they are going to reject him without better numbersMikey wrote:I don't think I've ever heard of a school doing that, wtf are you registered for the December test, if so maybe that's why they said it? if you're not then I have no idea... lolEli1 wrote:It was an email that basically said they did a preliminary review of my app and recommend that I retake before they make a decision. It’s funny though because on because of LSN they’ve already admitted someone with an LSAT below their 25%.Mikey wrote:I mean, was it like a general type of email (call? etc.?) or were they directly telling YOU to retake?Eli1 wrote:If a school recommends that you retake the LSAT (even though you’re above their 25%), what’s the best way to tell them no? It’s not my top choice, just thought I’d throw an app in because of the waiver.
either way I find it kind of weird a school would do that. i wasn't even aware schools could tell you to retake
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It depends on GPA and how close to the median that puts him. But somewhere near infinitely better odds than right nowTedBuckland wrote:What are the chances of them getting in then, do you think? For instance, if they take it and improve 1 or 2 points, would it still be a rejection?chargers21 wrote:I've heard of it before. It means that they are going to reject him without better numbersMikey wrote:I don't think I've ever heard of a school doing that, wtf are you registered for the December test, if so maybe that's why they said it? if you're not then I have no idea... lolEli1 wrote:It was an email that basically said they did a preliminary review of my app and recommend that I retake before they make a decision. It’s funny though because on because of LSN they’ve already admitted someone with an LSAT below their 25%.Mikey wrote:I mean, was it like a general type of email (call? etc.?) or were they directly telling YOU to retake?Eli1 wrote:If a school recommends that you retake the LSAT (even though you’re above their 25%), what’s the best way to tell them no? It’s not my top choice, just thought I’d throw an app in because of the waiver.
either way I find it kind of weird a school would do that. i wasn't even aware schools could tell you to retake
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Without revealing too much, I’m 2 points below the median but 1 point above the 25% and my GPA is slightly above a 3. According to LSN, they’ve already admitted and given a solid scholarship to someone with an LSAT that’s 2 points below the 25% and a 3.9 GPA. I know my GPA is low but I assumed that an LSAT above a school’s 25% and a 3.0 or higher was pretty much guaranteed admission.chargers21 wrote:It depends on GPA and how close to the median that puts him. But somewhere near infinitely better odds than right nowTedBuckland wrote:What are the chances of them getting in then, do you think? For instance, if they take it and improve 1 or 2 points, would it still be a rejection?chargers21 wrote:I've heard of it before. It means that they are going to reject him without better numbersMikey wrote:I don't think I've ever heard of a school doing that, wtf are you registered for the December test, if so maybe that's why they said it? if you're not then I have no idea... lolEli1 wrote:It was an email that basically said they did a preliminary review of my app and recommend that I retake before they make a decision. It’s funny though because on because of LSN they’ve already admitted someone with an LSAT below their 25%.Mikey wrote:I mean, was it like a general type of email (call? etc.?) or were they directly telling YOU to retake?Eli1 wrote:If a school recommends that you retake the LSAT (even though you’re above their 25%), what’s the best way to tell them no? It’s not my top choice, just thought I’d throw an app in because of the waiver.
either way I find it kind of weird a school would do that. i wasn't even aware schools could tell you to retake
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Yikes, you are sorely mistaken about how much GPA factors in and the MASSIVE difference between a 3.0 and a 3.9. If your gpa is at that level and you are not at least at the median LSAT you are basically an auto ding if you aren't URMEli1 wrote: Without revealing too much, I’m 2 points below the median but 1 point above the 25% and my GPA is slightly above a 3. According to LSN, they’ve already admitted and given a solid scholarship to someone with an LSAT that’s 2 points below the 25% and a 3.9 GPA. I know my GPA is low but I assumed that an LSAT above a school’s 25% and a 3.0 or higher was pretty much guaranteed admission.
Edit: message me if you're curious about more specific chances, how to proceed if this is a must-have school, and are willing to name the school
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Where did you find this information? If you are below the 25% in one area, you should be above the 75% in the other area to be a stronger candidate, if you below both 25% you have a very slim chance of acceptance.Eli1 wrote: I know my GPA is low but I assumed that an LSAT above a school’s 25% and a 3.0 or higher was pretty much guaranteed admission.
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kippercd wrote:Where did you find this information? If you are below the 25% in one area, you should be above the 75% in the other area to be a stronger candidate, if you below both 25% you have a very slim chance of acceptance.Eli1 wrote: I know my GPA is low but I assumed that an LSAT above a school’s 25% and a 3.0 or higher was pretty much guaranteed admission.
I may have overgeneralized. In my particular scenario, I thought that a 0.8 higher GPA would be at least negated by a 3 point higher LSAT.
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I would gladly give up 10 LSAT points for 0.8 higher GPA.Platopus wrote:0.8 worth of GPA is a lot...Eli1 wrote:kippercd wrote:Where did you find this information? If you are below the 25% in one area, you should be above the 75% in the other area to be a stronger candidate, if you below both 25% you have a very slim chance of acceptance.Eli1 wrote: I know my GPA is low but I assumed that an LSAT above a school’s 25% and a 3.0 or higher was pretty much guaranteed admission.
I may have overgeneralized. In my particular scenario, I thought that a 0.8 higher GPA would be at least negated by a 3 point higher LSAT.
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I’ll definitely take the 3 point LSAT for .8 GPA traderowdy wrote:I would gladly give up 10 LSAT points for 0.8 higher GPA.
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principalagent wrote:I’ll definitely take the 3 point LSAT for .8 GPA traderowdy wrote:I would gladly give up 10 LSAT points for 0.8 higher GPA.
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That trade probably gets me several t13 I won't get as it stands. I'm below several GPA floors.principalagent wrote:I’ll definitely take the 3 point LSAT for .8 GPA traderowdy wrote:I would gladly give up 10 LSAT points for 0.8 higher GPA.
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Yo wtfEli1 wrote:kippercd wrote:Where did you find this information? If you are below the 25% in one area, you should be above the 75% in the other area to be a stronger candidate, if you below both 25% you have a very slim chance of acceptance.Eli1 wrote: I know my GPA is low but I assumed that an LSAT above a school’s 25% and a 3.0 or higher was pretty much guaranteed admission.
I may have overgeneralized. In my particular scenario, I thought that a 0.8 higher GPA would be at least negated by a 3 point higher LSAT.
I know you said the school doesn't matter to you so it's whatever, but in general you need to reevaluate how you're taking my lsn data.
I would never characterize any person with stats 25>median as a guaranteed admit, and I'd certainly never use a single other data point to support it.
Do not assume that just because a school accepted someone with similar numbers that you must also be accepted, their 25/75 stats exist for a reason, if only 25% of their class has those stats it would be pretty impossible to give everyone with those stats the opportunity to attend and still maintain that
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Yo wtf
I know you said the school doesn't matter to you so it's whatever, but in general you need to reevaluate how you're taking my lsn data.
I would never characterize any person with stats 25>median as a guaranteed admit, and I'd certainly never use a single other data point to support it.
Do not assume that just because a school accepted someone with similar numbers that you must also be accepted, their 25/75 stats exist for a reason, if only 25% of their class has those stats it would be pretty impossible to give everyone with those stats the opportunity to attend and still maintain that[/quote]
Really though, this is why TLS is important. When I first started thinking about law school, I had no idea what to look for/what info I needed/how to make sense of all the stuff that schools and websites put out. I lurked for a long time and learned so much that no advisor or lawyer or current law student has ever told me and it completely changed my approach to the entire thing.
I know you said the school doesn't matter to you so it's whatever, but in general you need to reevaluate how you're taking my lsn data.
I would never characterize any person with stats 25>median as a guaranteed admit, and I'd certainly never use a single other data point to support it.
Do not assume that just because a school accepted someone with similar numbers that you must also be accepted, their 25/75 stats exist for a reason, if only 25% of their class has those stats it would be pretty impossible to give everyone with those stats the opportunity to attend and still maintain that[/quote]
Really though, this is why TLS is important. When I first started thinking about law school, I had no idea what to look for/what info I needed/how to make sense of all the stuff that schools and websites put out. I lurked for a long time and learned so much that no advisor or lawyer or current law student has ever told me and it completely changed my approach to the entire thing.
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Hey, all--
Slight change of topic here, but I applied to a JD-PhD program at one of the schools, and was notified like a month ago that the PhD I wanted is no longer available. So I tried to contact the school to switch to only a JD application, and I called the woman who was in charge, then emailed her, and she never responded. Do you think there's another way to go about it? I also never got the status checker from the school since I applied via the JD-PhD, so I'm basically completely in the dark re: the status of my application...
One person suggested I withdraw & resubmit, but the problem is, I already paid $105 for the application and completed an interview, so I wouldn't want to mess with my file. Any thoughts?
Slight change of topic here, but I applied to a JD-PhD program at one of the schools, and was notified like a month ago that the PhD I wanted is no longer available. So I tried to contact the school to switch to only a JD application, and I called the woman who was in charge, then emailed her, and she never responded. Do you think there's another way to go about it? I also never got the status checker from the school since I applied via the JD-PhD, so I'm basically completely in the dark re: the status of my application...
One person suggested I withdraw & resubmit, but the problem is, I already paid $105 for the application and completed an interview, so I wouldn't want to mess with my file. Any thoughts?
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Any TLS wisdom about whether I should retake February?
Already a splitter at most T14, already have one T14 bite and two more T20s. But my highest (of 3) LSAT is a 171 and I was PTing 175ish the last time I took it. Haven't been studying per se, but have been working as LSAT tutor. Any downsides to doing Feb if I decide I have it in me?
Already a splitter at most T14, already have one T14 bite and two more T20s. But my highest (of 3) LSAT is a 171 and I was PTing 175ish the last time I took it. Haven't been studying per se, but have been working as LSAT tutor. Any downsides to doing Feb if I decide I have it in me?
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Go for itJack_Kelly wrote:Any TLS wisdom about whether I should retake February?
Already a splitter at most T14, already have one T14 bite and two more T20s. But my highest (of 3) LSAT is a 171 and I was PTing 175ish the last time I took it. Haven't been studying per se, but have been working as LSAT tutor. Any downsides to doing Feb if I decide I have it in me?
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I don't think there is necessarily a downside other than time consumption. I personally don't think the pay off would be big enough to entice me to take it again but if you have it in you, I don't see a downside either.Jack_Kelly wrote:Any TLS wisdom about whether I should retake February?
Already a splitter at most T14, already have one T14 bite and two more T20s. But my highest (of 3) LSAT is a 171 and I was PTing 175ish the last time I took it. Haven't been studying per se, but have been working as LSAT tutor. Any downsides to doing Feb if I decide I have it in me?
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If the woman you have been in communication with isn't getting back to you, call the admissions office.MonicaYoung_LOL wrote:Hey, all--
Slight change of topic here, but I applied to a JD-PhD program at one of the schools, and was notified like a month ago that the PhD I wanted is no longer available. So I tried to contact the school to switch to only a JD application, and I called the woman who was in charge, then emailed her, and she never responded. Do you think there's another way to go about it? I also never got the status checker from the school since I applied via the JD-PhD, so I'm basically completely in the dark re: the status of my application...
One person suggested I withdraw & resubmit, but the problem is, I already paid $105 for the application and completed an interview, so I wouldn't want to mess with my file. Any thoughts?
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I've been trying to decide also, but am leaning towards a no rn; my situation is a bit different though. I would say to study again and see if you can still PT consistently at 175+ on new tests (if you haven't ran through all of them) before you sign up. Also negotiate every dollar you can before the test so you pretty much have nothing to lose. Think about it this way: you could be saving tens of thousands of dollars just by doing better on a dumb standardized test. Just my $.02Jack_Kelly wrote:Any TLS wisdom about whether I should retake February?
Already a splitter at most T14, already have one T14 bite and two more T20s. But my highest (of 3) LSAT is a 171 and I was PTing 175ish the last time I took it. Haven't been studying per se, but have been working as LSAT tutor. Any downsides to doing Feb if I decide I have it in me?
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Yeah I think I may take a PT and see if I'm still above 170. If so, I think I will. If not, I probably won't.OakBrook2021 wrote:I've been trying to decide also, but am leaning towards a no rn; my situation is a bit different though. I would say to study again and see if you can still PT consistently at 175+ on new tests (if you haven't ran through all of them) before you sign up. Also negotiate every dollar you can before the test so you pretty much have nothing to lose. Think about it this way: you could be saving tens of thousands of dollars just by doing better on a dumb standardized test. Just my $.02Jack_Kelly wrote:Any TLS wisdom about whether I should retake February?
Already a splitter at most T14, already have one T14 bite and two more T20s. But my highest (of 3) LSAT is a 171 and I was PTing 175ish the last time I took it. Haven't been studying per se, but have been working as LSAT tutor. Any downsides to doing Feb if I decide I have it in me?
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