Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

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Still standing? Where in the WL process are you?

JSNone-> WL -> Have Withdrawn since
4
11%
JSNone-> WL (will ride it out)
9
24%
JSNone-> WL (planning to withdraw)
1
3%
JSNone-> WL-> Dinged or/ No JS1 yet or/ No JS2 yet
6
16%
JSNone-> WL -> JS1 -> JS2 !!
4
11%
JS1 -> WL -> Have Withdrawn since
0
No votes
JS1 -> WL (will ride it out)
13
35%
JS1 -> WL (planning to withdraw)
0
No votes
JS1 -> WL -> Dinged or/ No JS1b yet or/ No JS2 yet
0
No votes
JS1 -> WL -> Had JS1b -> JS2 !!
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 37

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby enoca » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:38 am

etramak wrote:Isn't there a likelihood, especially when it comes to waitlisted applicants, that LSN users neglect to update when they withdraw/are accepted?



Absolutely. LSN is giving us a very incomplete picture. But that's where the 15-25% number is coming from, so the newer years are just as (un)reliable.

Here is the TLS compilation thread on the subject: T14 Waitlist Data (2011-2013)

This data includes all applicants on LSN who indicated a decision (so not those who left their status as “Pending”)

2011-2013 (3 cycles): 23.7% (312 applicants on LSN did not withdraw from the waitlist, 74 eventually admitted)

Using the same methods, here are the recent years:

2014: ~20% (16/79)
2015: ~15% (17/115)
2016: ~4% (4/91)

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby MrJD2020 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:01 am

etramak wrote:Isn't there a likelihood, especially when it comes to waitlisted applicants, that LSN users neglect to update when they withdraw/are accepted?

On a related note, there's two LSN users with my numbers this cycle that have so many pending applications and such a low acceptance rate (in contrast to similar users) that I suspect they just stopped using the site


All TLS/LSN number need to be taken with a grain of salt. So many people don't update their statuses (or don't even enter their stats) for a variety of reasons -- and there's no point hypothesizing why since there's no way to really know. We have no idea how representative TLS/LSN stats are of the real applicant pool, period.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby appind » Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:52 pm

WL data added to op

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby Thomas Hagan, ESQ. » Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:56 pm

HLS accidentally sent me a WL letter rather than a ding so I'll take advantage of their blunder and squeeze in here.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby Rigo » Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:58 pm

Looks like most of us are either splitters or reverse splitters probably.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby Pyrex » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:15 pm

Split means above/below medians right? Which variation is the "reverse split"?

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby Thomas Hagan, ESQ. » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:16 pm

Pyrex wrote:Split means above/below medians right? Which variation is the "reverse split"?


I thought it was above one 75th, below another 25th? Or is the super-splitter?

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby yhchoi1687 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:25 pm

Just curious that if mine is non-reportable GPA (3.91 if calculated / "superior" in lsac evaluation), would it be technically regarded as median?
It won't affect Harvard's median number in either way.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby Rigo » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:29 pm

yhchoi1687 wrote:Just curious that if mine is non-reportable GPA (3.91 if calculated / "superior" in lsac evaluation), would it be technically regarded as median?
It won't affect Harvard's median number in either way.

In a way(?) since it won't drag the median up or down.
But it isn't really an asset in anyways.
Getting pulled off the waitlist would be all based on your LSAT, if I was going to venture a guess.
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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby gwillygecko » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:29 pm

Checking in. A touch below both medians.

Pyrex wrote:Split means above/below medians right? Which variation is the "reverse split"?


Splitter is high lsat low GPA. Reverse is opposite
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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby Sarastro » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:30 pm

Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:
Pyrex wrote:Split means above/below medians right? Which variation is the "reverse split"?


I thought it was above one 75th, below another 25th? Or is the super-splitter?

Splitter = High LSAT, low GPA
Reverse-splitter = High GPA, low LSAT

Surprisingly it's not specifically defined in the TLS abbreviations and slang thread. I've always taken it to mean one attribute is below median while the other is above-- and you're a super splitter if they're both outside the 25-75 range.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby Rigo » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:31 pm

gwillygecko wrote:
Pyrex wrote:Split means above/below medians right? Which variation is the "reverse split"?

Splitter is high last low GPA. Reverse is opposite

Yeah I was going with this since the poll doesn't have further designations for JSnone.
I'm guessing most people have one of their stats at or above/below a 25/75.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby Rigo » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:32 pm

Maybe the WL will turn into Noah's Ark in the end and they'll let us on in pairs of two to cancel each other out.

Who wants to be my splitter buddy?

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby yhchoi1687 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:36 pm

Rigo wrote:
yhchoi1687 wrote:Just curious that if mine is non-reportable GPA (3.91 if calculated / "superior" in lsac evaluation), would it be technically regarded as median?
It won't affect Harvard's median number in either way.

In a way(?) since it won't drag the median up or down.
But it isn't really an asset in anyways.
Getting pulled off the waitlist would be all based on your LSAT, if I was going to venture a guess.


I think so. My LSAT is at median so hopefully it can give me some positive vibes.
But I'll first focus on sending them a decent LOCI (I didn't much like my PS :| ).

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby lauren22 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:57 pm

Checking in!

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby Rigo » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:00 pm

yhchoi1687 wrote:
Rigo wrote:
yhchoi1687 wrote:Just curious that if mine is non-reportable GPA (3.91 if calculated / "superior" in lsac evaluation), would it be technically regarded as median?
It won't affect Harvard's median number in either way.

In a way(?) since it won't drag the median up or down.
But it isn't really an asset in anyways.
Getting pulled off the waitlist would be all based on your LSAT, if I was going to venture a guess.

I think so. My LSAT is at median so hopefully it can give me some positive vibes.
But I'll first focus on sending them a decent LOCI (I didn't much like my PS :| ).

I have a feeling im ONLY here because of my PS, which I did in 30 mins. So I got lucky.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby Thomas Hagan, ESQ. » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:03 pm

Rigo wrote:
yhchoi1687 wrote:
Rigo wrote:
yhchoi1687 wrote:Just curious that if mine is non-reportable GPA (3.91 if calculated / "superior" in lsac evaluation), would it be technically regarded as median?
It won't affect Harvard's median number in either way.

In a way(?) since it won't drag the median up or down.
But it isn't really an asset in anyways.
Getting pulled off the waitlist would be all based on your LSAT, if I was going to venture a guess.

I think so. My LSAT is at median so hopefully it can give me some positive vibes.
But I'll first focus on sending them a decent LOCI (I didn't much like my PS :| ).

I have a feeling im ONLY here because of my PS, which I did in 30 mins. So I got lucky.


Or you were supposed to be admitted and the only reason why you were waitlisted was bc of your 30 minute PS :wink:

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby aneesam14 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:04 pm

Checking in! Anyone know what percentage of applicants they usually waitlist?

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby seeprybyrun » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:08 pm

Testing a hypothesis of mine:

Did anyone who first found out about their WL by checking their status eventually get an email about their changed status from HLS?

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby CPA-->JD » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:18 pm

seeprybyrun wrote:Testing a hypothesis of mine:

Did anyone who first found out about their WL by checking their status eventually get an email about their changed status from HLS?

I haven't. What are your thoughts?

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby Rigo » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:21 pm

Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:
Rigo wrote:I have a feeling im ONLY here because of my PS, which I did in 30 mins. So I got lucky.

Or you were supposed to be admitted and the only reason why you were waitlisted was bc of your 30 minute PS :wink:

Dammnnnnnnit

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby half moon » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:21 pm

Rigo wrote:Maybe the WL will turn into Noah's Ark in the end and they'll let us on in pairs of two to cancel each other out.

Who wants to be my splitter buddy?

I'll team up with you! Me and Rigo, rolling into Harvard! Although my LSAT is only at median, so you could probably find a better person to hitch your wagon to. Still not completely sure how I got here :lol: :lol:

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby seeprybyrun » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:27 pm

CPA-->JD wrote:
seeprybyrun wrote:Testing a hypothesis of mine:

Did anyone who first found out about their WL by checking their status eventually get an email about their changed status from HLS?

I haven't. What are your thoughts?


I'm wondering if an email only goes out to people who haven't viewed their most recent status update after X minutes/hours, sort of like a "you have unread messages" reminder.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby CPA-->JD » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:30 pm

seeprybyrun wrote:
CPA-->JD wrote:
seeprybyrun wrote:Testing a hypothesis of mine:

Did anyone who first found out about their WL by checking their status eventually get an email about their changed status from HLS?

I haven't. What are your thoughts?


I'm wondering if an email only goes out to people who haven't viewed their most recent status update after X minutes/hours, sort of like a "you have unread messages" reminder.

Think some people got it after checking their status checker. I don't have any alternative theories though...

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Waitlist

Postby curry1 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:02 pm

Checking in.




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