I don't think necessarily that helps, given my initial recommender is a full professor at one of these schools, and I am pretty sure he did not bad mouth me. If a professor doesn't work, then an alum does not work - unless he donated a building.intlbr wrote:I was wondering the same thing... Plus, does anybody know if alumni emails endorsing one's application might be effective? I've heard stories of people getting pulled off the WL after some pretty influential alums sent emails (not LORs though, just regular emails) stating how wonderful said applicant is. Can anybody confirm?chichi1992 wrote:Does anyone have any sense (even if it's anecdotal bullshit) about the % of waitlisted applicants that actually write LOCIs/visit/demonstrate genuine enthusiasm? I feel like in the TLS bubble, it's obvious to everyone that these are more or less necessary steps, but maybe it's not as ubiquitous as it seems.
I'm mostly just curious about the schools that seem to admit a LOT of students off the waitlist (looking at you, NYU). They might admit 30-45% of applicants who remain on the waitlist, but what if a solid 50% of all applicants who remain on the waitlist do nothing else other than say "yes, I still want to be considered"?
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<3 forever an eck456 fan, here.eck456 wrote:checking in - Harvard, NYU and CLS. Feeling pretty good about my penn deposit
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Hmm... I had an NYU alumn write my rec. Would it be effective to have them email in or just redundant?intlbr wrote:I was wondering the same thing... Plus, does anybody know if alumni emails endorsing one's application might be effective? I've heard stories of people getting pulled off the WL after some pretty influential alums sent emails (not LORs though, just regular emails) stating how wonderful said applicant is. Can anybody confirm?chichi1992 wrote:Does anyone have any sense (even if it's anecdotal bullshit) about the % of waitlisted applicants that actually write LOCIs/visit/demonstrate genuine enthusiasm? I feel like in the TLS bubble, it's obvious to everyone that these are more or less necessary steps, but maybe it's not as ubiquitous as it seems.
I'm mostly just curious about the schools that seem to admit a LOT of students off the waitlist (looking at you, NYU). They might admit 30-45% of applicants who remain on the waitlist, but what if a solid 50% of all applicants who remain on the waitlist do nothing else other than say "yes, I still want to be considered"?
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No. Not a splitter. 166/3.9. I guess that technically makes me a reverse splitter for a majority of the T-6 and an average or slightly below average candidate for the rest of the T-13 (assuming LSAT is more important than GPA, which I believe to be true).melmelcoolj wrote:Oh my. I thought Nightwing and I had the worst, but I guess you beat both of us in this regard. Are you also a splitter?FEDRESRV wrote:I received my final "initial" decision from NYU yesterday. Final tally is 13 WL/Holds. 9 of the T-13 + Texas, G-Town, Vandy and WUSTL. I will likely withdraw from two of the thirteen and ride out the rest. I have a feeling we are going to see some major movement in this thread over the next month.
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Hmm that's really interesting. I think you would be a reverse splitter. I thought splitters are having a rough cycle, but I guess reverse splitters are too? Then there definitely would be a lot of waitlist movement in the summer.FEDRESRV wrote:No. Not a splitter. 166/3.9. I guess that technically makes me a reverse splitter for a majority of the T-6 and an average or slightly below average candidate for the rest of the T-13 (assuming LSAT is more important than GPA, which I believe to be true).melmelcoolj wrote:Oh my. I thought Nightwing and I had the worst, but I guess you beat both of us in this regard. Are you also a splitter?FEDRESRV wrote:I received my final "initial" decision from NYU yesterday. Final tally is 13 WL/Holds. 9 of the T-13 + Texas, G-Town, Vandy and WUSTL. I will likely withdraw from two of the thirteen and ride out the rest. I have a feeling we are going to see some major movement in this thread over the next month.
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Just for confirmation, we don't need to let the school we deposited at know we're on another waitlist? Is that something they can just find out on their own, or not?
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It's best to find out their policy - a very small number of schools will not be okay with you double depositing.tinyvessels wrote:Just for confirmation, we don't need to let the school we deposited at know we're on another waitlist? Is that something they can just find out on their own, or not?
They find out on their own, LSAC circulates the number of deposits you're on to your schools I believe.
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Yes, I think the double deposit list comes out inHennessyVSOP wrote:It's best to find out their policy - a very small number of schools will not be okay with you double depositing.tinyvessels wrote:Just for confirmation, we don't need to let the school we deposited at know we're on another waitlist? Is that something they can just find out on their own, or not?
They find out on their own, LSAC circulates the number of deposits you're on to your schools I believe.
However, if you're talking about just depositing at one school and staying on waitlists, then no, you have no obligation to tell this to the school where you've deposited. You also do not have to withdraw from any schools who have yet to give you an initial decision. The only thing you can be required to do (and not all schools require this) is to withdraw from schools where you've been accepted. And I think the only way schools can find out about any waitlists you're on is through you.
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Thanks for the response. But I didn't double deposit. I have one deposit down and am on one waitlist. So it's between those two options.HennessyVSOP wrote:It's best to find out their policy - a very small number of schools will not be okay with you double depositing.tinyvessels wrote:Just for confirmation, we don't need to let the school we deposited at know we're on another waitlist? Is that something they can just find out on their own, or not?
They find out on their own, LSAC circulates the number of deposits you're on to your schools I believe.
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That's what I thought, but was just going to make sure. Thanks.mangomochi wrote:Yes, I think the double deposit list comes out in June?HennessyVSOP wrote:It's best to find out their policy - a very small number of schools will not be okay with you double depositing.tinyvessels wrote:Just for confirmation, we don't need to let the school we deposited at know we're on another waitlist? Is that something they can just find out on their own, or not?
They find out on their own, LSAC circulates the number of deposits you're on to your schools I believe.
However, if you're talking about just depositing at one school and staying on waitlists, then no, you have no obligation to tell this to the school where you've deposited. You also do not have to withdraw from any schools who have yet to give you an initial decision. The only thing you can be required to do (and not all schools require this) is to withdraw from schools where you've been accepted. And I think the only way schools can find out about any waitlists you're on is through you.
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This may be a stupid question, but do you ever get denied off a waitlist? Meaning, what happens in July or something when the class is filled, do they send out notes to everyone else saying sorry you lost?
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yes UVA did this to some today.jjcorvino wrote:This may be a stupid question, but do you ever get denied off a waitlist? Meaning, what happens in July or something when the class is filled, do they send out notes to everyone else saying sorry you lost?
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Hls did it to some people last year bc the wl yield was so lowjjcorvino wrote:This may be a stupid question, but do you ever get denied off a waitlist? Meaning, what happens in July or something when the class is filled, do they send out notes to everyone else saying sorry you lost?
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My waitlist hopes are rapidly diminishing
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may i ask why? it's may 3rd. Only T13 school that has pulled people so far is Cornell and that was almost all URM. Unless I missed something.Po$eidon wrote:My waitlist hopes are rapidly diminishing
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(1) UVA & Michigan's ominous, dream-crushing "we don't care about you" emails.baseballfan660 wrote:may i ask why? it's may 3rd. Only T13 school that has pulled people so far is Cornell and that was almost all URM. Unless I missed something.Po$eidon wrote:My waitlist hopes are rapidly diminishing
(2) Penn has made feeler calls which per TLS culminate in an acceptance, 100% of the time.
(3) You're still right; it's only May 3rd and so, there's no reason to give up yet! But, is hope rapidly diminishing? fuck yes.
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This. 1+2 are the biggies bumming me out but I suppose there's truth to 3.SybillAnnDorsett wrote:(1) UVA & Michigan's ominous, dream-crushing "we don't care about you" emails.baseballfan660 wrote:may i ask why? it's may 3rd. Only T13 school that has pulled people so far is Cornell and that was almost all URM. Unless I missed something.Po$eidon wrote:My waitlist hopes are rapidly diminishing
(2) Penn has made feeler calls which per TLS culminate in an acceptance, 100% of the time.
(3) You're still right; it's only May 3rd and so, there's no reason to give up yet! But, is hope rapidly diminishing? fuck yes.
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Based on Spivey's theory, it looks like that the game has not started yet. They need to wait for Harvard to pull enough people from the waitlist first, and then there would be a big movement in the lower T13. Desperately holding on to my pipe dream.Po$eidon wrote:This. 1+2 are the biggies bumming me out but I suppose there's truth to 3.SybillAnnDorsett wrote:(1) UVA & Michigan's ominous, dream-crushing "we don't care about you" emails.baseballfan660 wrote:may i ask why? it's may 3rd. Only T13 school that has pulled people so far is Cornell and that was almost all URM. Unless I missed something.Po$eidon wrote:My waitlist hopes are rapidly diminishing
(2) Penn has made feeler calls which per TLS culminate in an acceptance, 100% of the time.
(3) You're still right; it's only May 3rd and so, there's no reason to give up yet! But, is hope rapidly diminishing? fuck yes.
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I think Spivey is right considering the trend in fewer applicants and seeming unwillingness from law schools to cut down class sizes.melmelcoolj wrote:Based on Spivey's theory, it looks like that the game has not started yet. They need to wait for Harvard to pull enough people from the waitlist first, and then there would be a big movement in the lower T13. Desperately holding on to my pipe dream.Po$eidon wrote:This. 1+2 are the biggies bumming me out but I suppose there's truth to 3.SybillAnnDorsett wrote:(1) UVA & Michigan's ominous, dream-crushing "we don't care about you" emails.baseballfan660 wrote:may i ask why? it's may 3rd. Only T13 school that has pulled people so far is Cornell and that was almost all URM. Unless I missed something.Po$eidon wrote:My waitlist hopes are rapidly diminishing
(2) Penn has made feeler calls which per TLS culminate in an acceptance, 100% of the time.
(3) You're still right; it's only May 3rd and so, there's no reason to give up yet! But, is hope rapidly diminishing? fuck yes.
At this point people need to wait on HYS to start offering acceptances off the waitlist for there to be a domino effect for the rest of the top twenty or so schools to move, which will in turn also impact even the lowest tier schools most likely.
It also depends on what a school needs in terms of gpa or lsat stats. Some schools threw big money to get high lsat scores early or to get high gpas early on, and will be trying to pick people off the waitlist with high gpas/lsat scores depending on the school.
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What did UVA and Michigan's email's say if you don't mind sharing? UVA rejected me from the wait list today, so at least it could have been worse for ya'll lol.SybillAnnDorsett wrote:(1) UVA & Michigan's ominous, dream-crushing "we don't care about you" emails.baseballfan660 wrote:may i ask why? it's may 3rd. Only T13 school that has pulled people so far is Cornell and that was almost all URM. Unless I missed something.Po$eidon wrote:My waitlist hopes are rapidly diminishing
(2) Penn has made feeler calls which per TLS culminate in an acceptance, 100% of the time.
(3) You're still right; it's only May 3rd and so, there's no reason to give up yet! But, is hope rapidly diminishing? fuck yes.
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baseballfan660 wrote:What did UVA and Michigan's email's say if you don't mind sharing? UVA rejected me from the wait list today, so at least it could have been worse for ya'll lol.SybillAnnDorsett wrote:(1) UVA & Michigan's ominous, dream-crushing "we don't care about you" emails.baseballfan660 wrote:may i ask why? it's may 3rd. Only T13 school that has pulled people so far is Cornell and that was almost all URM. Unless I missed something.Po$eidon wrote:My waitlist hopes are rapidly diminishing
(2) Penn has made feeler calls which per TLS culminate in an acceptance, 100% of the time.
(3) You're still right; it's only May 3rd and so, there's no reason to give up yet! But, is hope rapidly diminishing? fuck yes.
This is UVA's email this morning:
Good morning from Charlottesville. I write today to provide a waitlist update.
After assessing the situation following the first-deposit deadline on April 18, we do not anticipate dipping too deeply into the waitlist pool during the next few weeks — if at all. We will continue to monitor those who have paid first deposits and will reevaluate on an ongoing basis.
Please do feel free to stay in touch with our office to keep us apprised of your continued interest. It is helpful to know who on our waitlist would still like to remain under consideration and who has made solid plans they do not have a desire to change. Do not hold back either piece of information when you feel it necessary to share.
Two matters to note:
1. It is most helpful to be in contact with our office to express either continued interest or a desire to withdraw from the waitlist via email (lawadmit@virginia.edu) rather than by phone. Materials we receive electronically are uploaded into your file for future reference.
2. This is not a period of the admissions season when additional letters of recommendation are helpful. To be blunt, they just don’t move the needle this late in the race.
Thank you for your patience throughout this process — it is much appreciated.
Cordel L. Faulk
Assistant Dean & Chief Admissions Officer/quote]
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Wow that is quite the soul crushing emailmelmelcoolj wrote:baseballfan660 wrote:What did UVA and Michigan's email's say if you don't mind sharing? UVA rejected me from the wait list today, so at least it could have been worse for ya'll lol.SybillAnnDorsett wrote:(1) UVA & Michigan's ominous, dream-crushing "we don't care about you" emails.baseballfan660 wrote:may i ask why? it's may 3rd. Only T13 school that has pulled people so far is Cornell and that was almost all URM. Unless I missed something.Po$eidon wrote:My waitlist hopes are rapidly diminishing
(2) Penn has made feeler calls which per TLS culminate in an acceptance, 100% of the time.
(3) You're still right; it's only May 3rd and so, there's no reason to give up yet! But, is hope rapidly diminishing? fuck yes.
This is UVA's email this morning:
Good morning from Charlottesville. I write today to provide a waitlist update.
After assessing the situation following the first-deposit deadline on April 18, we do not anticipate dipping too deeply into the waitlist pool during the next few weeks — if at all. We will continue to monitor those who have paid first deposits and will reevaluate on an ongoing basis.
Please do feel free to stay in touch with our office to keep us apprised of your continued interest. It is helpful to know who on our waitlist would still like to remain under consideration and who has made solid plans they do not have a desire to change. Do not hold back either piece of information when you feel it necessary to share.
Two matters to note:
1. It is most helpful to be in contact with our office to express either continued interest or a desire to withdraw from the waitlist via email (lawadmit@virginia.edu) rather than by phone. Materials we receive electronically are uploaded into your file for future reference.
2. This is not a period of the admissions season when additional letters of recommendation are helpful. To be blunt, they just don’t move the needle this late in the race.
Thank you for your patience throughout this process — it is much appreciated.
Cordel L. Faulk
Assistant Dean & Chief Admissions Officer/quote]
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Michigan has sent out waitlist update emails? I received nothing.baseballfan660 wrote:What did UVA and Michigan's email's say if you don't mind sharing? UVA rejected me from the wait list today, so at least it could have been worse for ya'll lol.SybillAnnDorsett wrote:(1) UVA & Michigan's ominous, dream-crushing "we don't care about you" emails.baseballfan660 wrote:may i ask why? it's may 3rd. Only T13 school that has pulled people so far is Cornell and that was almost all URM. Unless I missed something.Po$eidon wrote:My waitlist hopes are rapidly diminishing
(2) Penn has made feeler calls which per TLS culminate in an acceptance, 100% of the time.
(3) You're still right; it's only May 3rd and so, there's no reason to give up yet! But, is hope rapidly diminishing? fuck yes.
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