Fordham Law c/o 2020 Forum

[lillawyer2]

Hey I'm having a tough time deciding between Fordham and some other options. Can anybody who has gotten in and would be paying around sticker tell me their thinking as to why Fordham is worth the risk of taking on such a large amount of debt? Do you have money/ financial support, don't really care about the debt, Fordham is the most prestigious school you got into, are from NYC so no COL expenses, etc? Thanks !

What other schools are you deciding between? (If not names, then can you offer some kind of comparison explaining what their relative merits are for you?)

I'm in between Fordham with a very minimal scholarship and a Tier II school with basically full scholarship but I don't want to practice in the area where they would probably place me. I have also been waitlisted by UChicago, Columbia, Vandy, Washington in St. Louis, Emory, and William and Mary. Haven't heard back from a few others though.

Also to the person above who said its not worth it, I was hoping to understand why its not. The assistant dean who increased my scholarship told me that only 1/3 of Fordham law students get scholarship, so I was wondering what the other 2/3's of students who don't get any scholarship do or how they rationalize taking on this amount out in loans.

How I imagine 2/3 of the class manages without a bit of skolly:

1. Delusional about prospects

2. Delusional about how easily-quickly debt can be paid back.

3. They have money-parents/savings/job is paying for it or most of it.

4. Don't give a shit about debt. I know people how lease/borrow things they can't afford and pay bare minimum for everything. Thier lack of worry is something I envy.

3.

[largemarge26]

Hey I'm having a tough time deciding between Fordham and some other options. Can anybody who has gotten in and would be paying around sticker tell me their thinking as to why Fordham is worth the risk of taking on such a large amount of debt? Do you have money/ financial support, don't really care about the debt, Fordham is the most prestigious school you got into, are from NYC so no COL expenses, etc? Thanks !

What other schools are you deciding between? (If not names, then can you offer some kind of comparison explaining what their relative merits are for you?)

I'm in between Fordham with a very minimal scholarship and a Tier II school with basically full scholarship but I don't want to practice in the area where they would probably place me. I have also been waitlisted by UChicago, Columbia, Vandy, Washington in St. Louis, Emory, and William and Mary. Haven't heard back from a few others though.

Also to the person above who said its not worth it, I was hoping to understand why its not. The assistant dean who increased my scholarship told me that only 1/3 of Fordham law students get scholarship, so I was wondering what the other 2/3's of students who don't get any scholarship do or how they rationalize taking on this amount out in loans.

+1 would also find this answer very helpful

[snarfing]

Hey I'm having a tough time deciding between Fordham and some other options. Can anybody who has gotten in and would be paying around sticker tell me their thinking as to why Fordham is worth the risk of taking on such a large amount of debt? Do you have money/ financial support, don't really care about the debt, Fordham is the most prestigious school you got into, are from NYC so no COL expenses, etc? Thanks !

What other schools are you deciding between? (If not names, then can you offer some kind of comparison explaining what their relative merits are for you?)

I'm in between Fordham with a very minimal scholarship and a Tier II school with basically full scholarship but I don't want to practice in the area where they would probably place me. I have also been waitlisted by UChicago, Columbia, Vandy, Washington in St. Louis, Emory, and William and Mary. Haven't heard back from a few others though.

Also to the person above who said its not worth it, I was hoping to understand why its not. The assistant dean who increased my scholarship told me that only 1/3 of Fordham law students get scholarship, so I was wondering what the other 2/3's of students who don't get any scholarship do or how they rationalize taking on this amount out in loans.

How I imagine 2/3 of the class manages without a bit of skolly:

1. Delusional about prospects

2. Delusional about how easily-quickly debt can be paid back.

3. They have money-parents/savings/job is paying for it or most of it.

4. Don't give a shit about debt. I know people how lease/borrow things they can't afford and pay bare minimum for everything. Thier lack of worry is something I envy.

3.

I"m debating if fordham is worth it for 40k/y maybe I'm too pessimisistic

[lillawyer2]

Hey I'm having a tough time deciding between Fordham and some other options. Can anybody who has gotten in and would be paying around sticker tell me their thinking as to why Fordham is worth the risk of taking on such a large amount of debt? Do you have money/ financial support, don't really care about the debt, Fordham is the most prestigious school you got into, are from NYC so no COL expenses, etc? Thanks !

What other schools are you deciding between? (If not names, then can you offer some kind of comparison explaining what their relative merits are for you?)

I'm in between Fordham with a very minimal scholarship and a Tier II school with basically full scholarship but I don't want to practice in the area where they would probably place me. I have also been waitlisted by UChicago, Columbia, Vandy, Washington in St. Louis, Emory, and William and Mary. Haven't heard back from a few others though.

Also to the person above who said its not worth it, I was hoping to understand why its not. The assistant dean who increased my scholarship told me that only 1/3 of Fordham law students get scholarship, so I was wondering what the other 2/3's of students who don't get any scholarship do or how they rationalize taking on this amount out in loans.

How I imagine 2/3 of the class manages without a bit of skolly:

1. Delusional about prospects

2. Delusional about how easily-quickly debt can be paid back.

3. They have money-parents/savings/job is paying for it or most of it.

4. Don't give a shit about debt. I know people how lease/borrow things they can't afford and pay bare minimum for everything. Thier lack of worry is something I envy.

3.

I"m debating if fordham is worth it for 40k/y maybe I'm too pessimisistic

You'd have to take out a loan for 40k each year or your skolly is 40k?

[Nero21]

Hey I'm having a tough time deciding between Fordham and some other options. Can anybody who has gotten in and would be paying around sticker tell me their thinking as to why Fordham is worth the risk of taking on such a large amount of debt? Do you have money/ financial support, don't really care about the debt, Fordham is the most prestigious school you got into, are from NYC so no COL expenses, etc? Thanks !

What other schools are you deciding between? (If not names, then can you offer some kind of comparison explaining what their relative merits are for you?)

I'm in between Fordham with a very minimal scholarship and a Tier II school with basically full scholarship but I don't want to practice in the area where they would probably place me. I have also been waitlisted by UChicago, Columbia, Vandy, Washington in St. Louis, Emory, and William and Mary. Haven't heard back from a few others though.

Also to the person above who said its not worth it, I was hoping to understand why its not. The assistant dean who increased my scholarship told me that only 1/3 of Fordham law students get scholarship, so I was wondering what the other 2/3's of students who don't get any scholarship do or how they rationalize taking on this amount out in loans.

How I imagine 2/3 of the class manages without a bit of skolly:

1. Delusional about prospects

2. Delusional about how easily-quickly debt can be paid back.

3. They have money-parents/savings/job is paying for it or most of it.

4. Don't give a shit about debt. I know people how lease/borrow things they can't afford and pay bare minimum for everything. Thier lack of worry is something I envy.

3.

I"m debating if fordham is worth it for 40k/y maybe I'm too pessimisistic

You'd have to take out a loan for 40k each year or your skolly is 40k?

I don't know about that person's situation but my skolly is only worth $20,000 which means I'll have about $180,000 in student debt which I don't know if any school is worth that. Would it be unreasonable to go a tier II and try to transfer out after the 1st year to save myself from one year of law school debt?

[fazzvm56]

Can anyone please tell what is the reasonable range of need based aid one can expect. Further, when can we hear back on it? I've received my merit scholarship and is not enough. Have applied for need based now.

I hope I can piggy back on your question and add: why for graduate school do they need your parent's income? it seems odd they would assume your parents are going to help with LS. I have a disabled parent with no income and a mom eho recently retired, but her last years income is a lot. Ugh this kinda stinks.

I guess it doesn't hurt to try for need based aid.

My dad is retired and my mom doesn't make very much money but they both just sold houses and each have over 400k in the bank because of it, so I'm not even applying for the need based aid. It seems like a waste of time for me because of how much information they want (w2s, etc.) when I doubt I'd even get anything when they specifiy that they only give to the neediest students. I think it's bogus that they want your parents info.

[lillawyer2]

Hey I'm having a tough time deciding between Fordham and some other options. Can anybody who has gotten in and would be paying around sticker tell me their thinking as to why Fordham is worth the risk of taking on such a large amount of debt? Do you have money/ financial support, don't really care about the debt, Fordham is the most prestigious school you got into, are from NYC so no COL expenses, etc? Thanks !

What other schools are you deciding between? (If not names, then can you offer some kind of comparison explaining what their relative merits are for you?)

I'm in between Fordham with a very minimal scholarship and a Tier II school with basically full scholarship but I don't want to practice in the area where they would probably place me. I have also been waitlisted by UChicago, Columbia, Vandy, Washington in St. Louis, Emory, and William and Mary. Haven't heard back from a few others though.

Also to the person above who said its not worth it, I was hoping to understand why its not. The assistant dean who increased my scholarship told me that only 1/3 of Fordham law students get scholarship, so I was wondering what the other 2/3's of students who don't get any scholarship do or how they rationalize taking on this amount out in loans.

How I imagine 2/3 of the class manages without a bit of skolly:

1. Delusional about prospects

2. Delusional about how easily-quickly debt can be paid back.

3. They have money-parents/savings/job is paying for it or most of it.

4. Don't give a shit about debt. I know people how lease/borrow things they can't afford and pay bare minimum for everything. Thier lack of worry is something I envy.

3.

I"m debating if fordham is worth it for 40k/y maybe I'm too pessimisistic

You'd have to take out a loan for 40k each year or your skolly is 40k?

I don't know about that person's situation but my skolly is only worth $20,000 which means I'll have about $180,000 in student debt which I don't know if any school is worth that. Would it be unreasonable to go a tier II and try to transfer out after the 1st year to save myself from one year of law school debt?

Oh wow that is a lot. I am assuming housing is included in that debt amt. Is there a way you can cut that cost down? Can you stay at home?

Is the tier II in a market you want to practice in? Can you get a good/decent job from that school?

I hate debt. I also have a problem with how expensive LS is considering it isn't a guaranteed money making profession. I will have debt coming out of Fordham, but it will be a lot less. I made sure I put some money aside (I graduated 2014) and when I graduate LS I will use that hopefully pay down the debt, but idk.

If you really love Fordham and believe it is going to give you what you want out of LS and career opportunities, then go to Fordham, butI understand its a hard decision to make.

[2020hopeful12345]

Anyone going to ASD on Friday? Looks like a fun day of stuff planned. I'd be down to grab a beer or five after all is said and done if anyone is interested in meeting up.

I'll be there! A beer after sounds excellent.

Excellent. I'll PM you to arrange.

I'll be there as well!

+1

+1

[snarfing]

Hey I'm having a tough time deciding between Fordham and some other options. Can anybody who has gotten in and would be paying around sticker tell me their thinking as to why Fordham is worth the risk of taking on such a large amount of debt? Do you have money/ financial support, don't really care about the debt, Fordham is the most prestigious school you got into, are from NYC so no COL expenses, etc? Thanks !

What other schools are you deciding between? (If not names, then can you offer some kind of comparison explaining what their relative merits are for you?)

I'm in between Fordham with a very minimal scholarship and a Tier II school with basically full scholarship but I don't want to practice in the area where they would probably place me. I have also been waitlisted by UChicago, Columbia, Vandy, Washington in St. Louis, Emory, and William and Mary. Haven't heard back from a few others though.

Also to the person above who said its not worth it, I was hoping to understand why its not. The assistant dean who increased my scholarship told me that only 1/3 of Fordham law students get scholarship, so I was wondering what the other 2/3's of students who don't get any scholarship do or how they rationalize taking on this amount out in loans.

How I imagine 2/3 of the class manages without a bit of skolly:

1. Delusional about prospects

2. Delusional about how easily-quickly debt can be paid back.

3. They have money-parents/savings/job is paying for it or most of it.

4. Don't give a shit about debt. I know people how lease/borrow things they can't afford and pay bare minimum for everything. Thier lack of worry is something I envy.

3.

I"m debating if fordham is worth it for 40k/y maybe I'm too pessimisistic

You'd have to take out a loan for 40k each year or your skolly is 40k?

40k scholarship

[Legallylawyer2020]

I just wanted to check with others going to ASD tomorrow. I haven't gotten anything to read for the mock class. Are they giving it out tomorrow, did I miss it somewhere, or are they having a class with no reading? I don't want to show up unprepared!

[snarfing]

also regarding asd, does it start at 9:30 or 10. The invite said 10 but a schedule they sent said 930

[lvlaw3]

also regarding asd, does it start at 9:30 or 10. The invite said 10 but a schedule they sent said 930

a recent e-mail said, "Registration Opens/Continental Breakfast" is at 9:30, and the remarks by the Dean are at 10. def getting there at 9:35 (fashionably late) but with enough time to get the lay of the land snack-wise

[JC2017]

I just wanted to check with others going to ASD tomorrow. I haven't gotten anything to read for the mock class. Are they giving it out tomorrow, did I miss it somewhere, or are they having a class with no reading? I don't want to show up unprepared!

I haven't gotten anything besides the basic outline of the day. The mock class is only scheduled for 50 minutes so I doubt it'll be too in depth.

[Legallylawyer2020]

I just wanted to check with others going to ASD tomorrow. I haven't gotten anything to read for the mock class. Are they giving it out tomorrow, did I miss it somewhere, or are they having a class with no reading? I don't want to show up unprepared!

I haven't gotten anything besides the basic outline of the day. The mock class is only scheduled for 50 minutes so I doubt it'll be too in depth.

Fair enough. I've had readings for mock classes at other schools so I thought most/all schools did that (otherwise I feel like it'll be a lecture and not interactive). I guess we shall see!

[JC2017]

I just wanted to check with others going to ASD tomorrow. I haven't gotten anything to read for the mock class. Are they giving it out tomorrow, did I miss it somewhere, or are they having a class with no reading? I don't want to show up unprepared!

I haven't gotten anything besides the basic outline of the day. The mock class is only scheduled for 50 minutes so I doubt it'll be too in depth.

Fair enough. I've had readings for mock classes at other schools so I thought most/all schools did that (otherwise I feel like it'll be a lecture and not interactive). I guess we shall see!

Interesting. This will be only my 2nd ASD, and the first one was quite short with no mock classes or anything like that. Just a discussion panel with former students and professors.

[bitter_melon]

Got my scholarship offer six days after my admissions offer. It's not enough to entice me to consider the school, but I figured I'd let you guys know.

[lillawyer2]

Hey I'm having a tough time deciding between Fordham and some other options. Can anybody who has gotten in and would be paying around sticker tell me their thinking as to why Fordham is worth the risk of taking on such a large amount of debt? Do you have money/ financial support, don't really care about the debt, Fordham is the most prestigious school you got into, are from NYC so no COL expenses, etc? Thanks !

What other schools are you deciding between? (If not names, then can you offer some kind of comparison explaining what their relative merits are for you?)

I'm in between Fordham with a very minimal scholarship and a Tier II school with basically full scholarship but I don't want to practice in the area where they would probably place me. I have also been waitlisted by UChicago, Columbia, Vandy, Washington in St. Louis, Emory, and William and Mary. Haven't heard back from a few others though.

Also to the person above who said its not worth it, I was hoping to understand why its not. The assistant dean who increased my scholarship told me that only 1/3 of Fordham law students get scholarship, so I was wondering what the other 2/3's of students who don't get any scholarship do or how they rationalize taking on this amount out in loans.

How I imagine 2/3 of the class manages without a bit of skolly:

1. Delusional about prospects

2. Delusional about how easily-quickly debt can be paid back.

3. They have money-parents/savings/job is paying for it or most of it.

4. Don't give a shit about debt. I know people how lease/borrow things they can't afford and pay bare minimum for everything. Thier lack of worry is something I envy.

3.

I"m debating if fordham is worth it for 40k/y maybe I'm too pessimisistic

You'd have to take out a loan for 40k each year or your skolly is 40k?

40k scholarship

Lol I don't think Fordham goes much higher. Did you get a better offer somewhere else? 40k in scholarship is good-can you cut cost by staying at home

[celticsfan]

Anyone successfully negotiate with Fordham?

[fazzvm56]

Hey I'm having a tough time deciding between Fordham and some other options. Can anybody who has gotten in and would be paying around sticker tell me their thinking as to why Fordham is worth the risk of taking on such a large amount of debt? Do you have money/ financial support, don't really care about the debt, Fordham is the most prestigious school you got into, are from NYC so no COL expenses, etc? Thanks !

What other schools are you deciding between? (If not names, then can you offer some kind of comparison explaining what their relative merits are for you?)

I'm in between Fordham with a very minimal scholarship and a Tier II school with basically full scholarship but I don't want to practice in the area where they would probably place me. I have also been waitlisted by UChicago, Columbia, Vandy, Washington in St. Louis, Emory, and William and Mary. Haven't heard back from a few others though.

Also to the person above who said its not worth it, I was hoping to understand why its not. The assistant dean who increased my scholarship told me that only 1/3 of Fordham law students get scholarship, so I was wondering what the other 2/3's of students who don't get any scholarship do or how they rationalize taking on this amount out in loans.

How I imagine 2/3 of the class manages without a bit of skolly:

1. Delusional about prospects

2. Delusional about how easily-quickly debt can be paid back.

3. They have money-parents/savings/job is paying for it or most of it.

4. Don't give a shit about debt. I know people how lease/borrow things they can't afford and pay bare minimum for everything. Thier lack of worry is something I envy.

3.

I"m debating if fordham is worth it for 40k/y maybe I'm too pessimisistic

You'd have to take out a loan for 40k each year or your skolly is 40k?

40k scholarship

I got 25k a year, so I'll be paying 30k a year by taking 15-20k a year in loans and the rest regular and I thought that was a steal... Maybe that's just me because I didn't think they'd give me that much.

[Shakawkaw]

Hey I'm having a tough time deciding between Fordham and some other options. Can anybody who has gotten in and would be paying around sticker tell me their thinking as to why Fordham is worth the risk of taking on such a large amount of debt? Do you have money/ financial support, don't really care about the debt, Fordham is the most prestigious school you got into, are from NYC so no COL expenses, etc? Thanks !

What other schools are you deciding between? (If not names, then can you offer some kind of comparison explaining what their relative merits are for you?)

I'm in between Fordham with a very minimal scholarship and a Tier II school with basically full scholarship but I don't want to practice in the area where they would probably place me. I have also been waitlisted by UChicago, Columbia, Vandy, Washington in St. Louis, Emory, and William and Mary. Haven't heard back from a few others though.

Also to the person above who said its not worth it, I was hoping to understand why its not. The assistant dean who increased my scholarship told me that only 1/3 of Fordham law students get scholarship, so I was wondering what the other 2/3's of students who don't get any scholarship do or how they rationalize taking on this amount out in loans.

How I imagine 2/3 of the class manages without a bit of skolly:

1. Delusional about prospects

2. Delusional about how easily-quickly debt can be paid back.

3. They have money-parents/savings/job is paying for it or most of it.

4. Don't give a shit about debt. I know people how lease/borrow things they can't afford and pay bare minimum for everything. Thier lack of worry is something I envy.

3.

I"m debating if fordham is worth it for 40k/y maybe I'm too pessimisistic

You'd have to take out a loan for 40k each year or your skolly is 40k?

40k scholarship

Fordham with 40k isn't bad, but that also means you have better options if they're giving you that much, since they cap at 45k.

[Nero21]

Anyone successfully negotiate with Fordham?

I sent a letter asking for more money or else I wouldn't be able to go and I got 5k more per year, in total 15k. I also tried to counter offer that amount and ask for more but it didn't work out lol

[Nero21]

Hey I'm having a tough time deciding between Fordham and some other options. Can anybody who has gotten in and would be paying around sticker tell me their thinking as to why Fordham is worth the risk of taking on such a large amount of debt? Do you have money/ financial support, don't really care about the debt, Fordham is the most prestigious school you got into, are from NYC so no COL expenses, etc? Thanks !

What other schools are you deciding between? (If not names, then can you offer some kind of comparison explaining what their relative merits are for you?)

I'm in between Fordham with a very minimal scholarship and a Tier II school with basically full scholarship but I don't want to practice in the area where they would probably place me. I have also been waitlisted by UChicago, Columbia, Vandy, Washington in St. Louis, Emory, and William and Mary. Haven't heard back from a few others though.

Also to the person above who said its not worth it, I was hoping to understand why its not. The assistant dean who increased my scholarship told me that only 1/3 of Fordham law students get scholarship, so I was wondering what the other 2/3's of students who don't get any scholarship do or how they rationalize taking on this amount out in loans.

I don't know about that person's situation but my skolly is only worth $20,000 which means I'll have about $180,000 in student debt which I don't know if any school is worth that. Would it be unreasonable to go a tier II and try to transfer out after the 1st year to save myself from one year of law school debt?

Oh wow that is a lot. I am assuming housing is included in that debt amt. Is there a way you can cut that cost down? Can you stay at home?

Is the tier II in a market you want to practice in? Can you get a good/decent job from that school?

I hate debt. I also have a problem with how expensive LS is considering it isn't a guaranteed money making profession. I will have debt coming out of Fordham, but it will be a lot less. I made sure I put some money aside (I graduated 2014) and when I graduate LS I will use that hopefully pay down the debt, but idk.

If you really love Fordham and believe it is going to give you what you want out of LS and career opportunities, then go to Fordham, butI understand its a hard decision to make.

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I cant' stay at home unless I attend that tier II as I am not originally from NY , and it is not in the market I want sadly. I could probably get an okay job by graduating from there but I don't want to practice here. I'm not set on Fordham though. I am extremely happy that they accepted me and I never knew if I would even get in but since other, higher ranked schools have waitlisted me I'm now torn because almost 200K in debt doesn't seem that bad if its from Columbia or UChicago just because of their prestige and job placement, but making the argument for Fordham is getting harder as I keep on being waitlisted by these schools I also hate debt like you but I haven't planned out my law school experience (i.e. funding) as well as you have, but I'm glad somebody at Fordham won't be destroyed by debt.

[mhassan72]

Anyone successfully negotiate with Fordham?

I sent a letter asking for more money or else I wouldn't be able to go and I got 5k more per year, in total 15k. I also tried to counter offer that amount and ask for more but it didn't work out lol

can you pm me your numbers...I tried to get more money but they said no

[bosstweedfan]

Does anyone know if Fordham allows you to double deposit? I can't find anything saying you CANNOT, but it makes me nervous. I like to have something writing saying you CAN.

[snarfing]

so how did people feel about asd. How much was bs do you think?