TheMikey wrote: Thanks for this! How are the professors at Cornell? What is the student body environment like?
Hah, some big questions : P
From my experience the professors are incredibly enthusiastic and enjoy teaching; they want to see their students do well. Could be in part because Ithaca doesn't have the happenings of a big city. The professors are here for the school.
I'm not sure how to describe the student body with one sweeping brush... however I think Dean Ingram and Cornell admissions try to bring in students who will contribute to a positive atmosphere. It is smaller in size than most other T14s so you'll get to know your classmates well. This is reflected a bit in the admissions process with the interview. I like that the school takes into account intangibles.
but defer to the more experienced Cornellians itt for more specifics ~
Are you a 1L?
The professors are fine. I don't think there's going to be much variation among the T-14 regarding professor quality. Some big names, some lesser names, some more interested in teaching and interacting with students than others. This is a slight variation on the question but: there has certainly been a push for more professor-student interaction, which has been nice. 1L class sizes have (mostly) been capped at 2 sections per class, which is about 60 students. In theory, it should encourage professors to get to know the students in their classes better. I wasn't necessarily a fan of this change for various reasons, but I haven't experienced what it's been like, so I won't comment on the merits. Your small section professor should invite you over to their place for a section meal, which is cool. My favorite program was the take a professor to lunch program, because I would go out to eat with a professor, order the most expensive thing on the menu, and the school would pay. Lastly, I will add that every time I asked professors for a letter of recommendation or to call a judge for me, professors were more than willing to help.
ETA: The faculty at-home seminars are also cool. Got one credit for showing up to a prof's house 4 times in a semester, eating free dinner and discussing works of literature and Battlestar Galactica.
I liked the student body. Tight knit community. Easy to get to know everyone. For folks who love joining student orgs, there is definitely an excessive amount of clubs for a school this size.
poptart123 wrote:For any current students checking this thread: What is Cornell's reach like outside of NYC in your experience? I know there is a lot of self selection, but if you could speak about employment for students you know not targeting NYC that would be appreciated!
Do you have a specific market in mind? I can rattle off anecdotes about people at/below median who got jobs in X states, but as a general proposition, I'd just say it depends on ties, interviewing skills, and hustling. If you have ties to an area, don't mind doing your own mailing, and aren't awkward in interviews, you should be able to get a job in most states (unless your grades are really bad, and even then that's mostly just applicable to biglaw). Most of the OCI stuff will be NYC firms, a bunch from CA and DC, a few from DE, PA, NJ, London, upstate NY, and some others that interview for all offices and you would specify which you're interested in. Then there are separate Boston and DC job fairs. For others, you'd probably have to do your own legwork. Again, most people I know who wanted a certain market got it. Notable exceptions would be people well below median who probably would have preferred CA but had to bid NYC instead.
proteinshake wrote:not sure if this really answers the questions but relevant:
"People go all over. Internationally, I've heard of London, Oslo, Paris, Hong Kong and Japan. Many also stay in the US and I know people who did externships in San Diego, DC, NYC, and Phoenix. I think you can pretty much go wherever you want as long as the externship/academic program meets broad requirements."
- Cornell student in the 2019 thread
Getting an externship in an area is pretty easy from any law school. I mean, maybe we're more flexible with the international stuff. And getting an externship somewhere might help with employment, but you'd only be able to extern in 2L or 3L, and by then OCI is over, so if you're externing in a place you don't already have a job, you'd be doing it in the hopes of changing markets or getting a non-biglaw job in that area. But generally speaking, ability to extern somewhere /=/ ability to get a job somewhere.