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Does anyone know why Berkeley and Stanford have really high GPA ceilings and seem to place more emphasis on GPA than LSAT?

Has anyone who applied for a service fee waiver received it yet?? I submitted the form Sept 1, and nothing. Not even an acknowledgment that they received the form. Frustrating.

KatCoco wrote:Has anyone who applied for a service fee waiver received it yet?? I submitted the form Sept 1, and nothing. Not even an acknowledgment that they received the form. Frustrating.

Don't worry. I followed-up and received this response:

Hello,

Thank you for your interest in Berkeley Law and for submitting a request for a fee waiver. Review of fee waiver applications will begin the week of September 26. We appreciate your patience while you wait for a response.

All the best,

warmcherrysoda wrote:

KatCoco wrote:Has anyone who applied for a service fee waiver received it yet?? I submitted the form Sept 1, and nothing. Not even an acknowledgment that they received the form. Frustrating.

Don't worry. I followed-up and received this response:

Hello,

Thank you for your interest in Berkeley Law and for submitting a request for a fee waiver. Review of fee waiver applications will begin the week of September 26. We appreciate your patience while you wait for a response.

All the best,

Ah I see. Thanks for the info!

Checking in! Looking forward to that 4-page PS

Has anyone's application gone complete yet? Mine has been "received" since 9/2.

RictusErectus wrote:Checking in! Looking forward to that 4-page PS

It's not fun. I'm trying to pad my 2 page one and I'm struggling. It basically looks like four pages that need editing

RictusErectus wrote:Checking in! Looking forward to that 4-page PS

Does it need to be 4 pages? I'd much rather submit a strong 2 page personal statement rather than a padded one

LawschoolHopeful2k16 wrote:Does anyone know why Berkeley and Stanford have really high GPA ceilings and seem to place more emphasis on GPA than LSAT?

Berkeley is a very liberal school and as such believes that GPA is a better determinant of ability than a standardized test. Might be the same for Stanford, but I haven't spoken to any faculty or alumni from there about it.

checking in!

ProductofUnreality wrote:

LawschoolHopeful2k16 wrote:Does anyone know why Berkeley and Stanford have really high GPA ceilings and seem to place more emphasis on GPA than LSAT?

Berkeley is a very liberal school and as such believes that GPA is a better determinant of ability than a standardized test. Might be the same for Stanford, but I haven't spoken to any faculty or alumni from there about it.

I was also thinking that some of it would be due to the possibility that there are A+s at stanford and there might be A+ s at UC and other CA schools. Plus there might be grade inflation or something around there.

RamTitan wrote:

RictusErectus wrote:Checking in! Looking forward to that 4-page PS

Does it need to be 4 pages? I'd much rather submit a strong 2 page personal statement rather than a padded one

Wondering a similar thing. My personal statement is now a little over two pages. I'm very happy with it and have spent a lot of time polishing it. Is four pages an unofficial requirement?

shoparoundthecorner wrote:

RamTitan wrote:

RictusErectus wrote:Checking in! Looking forward to that 4-page PS

Does it need to be 4 pages? I'd much rather submit a strong 2 page personal statement rather than a padded one

Wondering a similar thing. My personal statement is now a little over two pages. I'm very happy with it and have spent a lot of time polishing it. Is four pages an unofficial requirement?

My thinking is that since they've added a "Why Berkeley" essay prompt (first time ever), the four page length isn't as important as it used to be. They previously emphasized talking about why you want to go to Berkeley in your PS, but that obviously doesn't apply anymore.

shoparoundthecorner wrote:

RamTitan wrote:

RictusErectus wrote:Checking in! Looking forward to that 4-page PS

Does it need to be 4 pages? I'd much rather submit a strong 2 page personal statement rather than a padded one

Wondering a similar thing. My personal statement is now a little over two pages. I'm very happy with it and have spent a lot of time polishing it. Is four pages an unofficial requirement?

It doesn't necessarily have to be 4 pages. I think Berk does this to gauge your interest in the school just like Stanford does with the targeted letters of rec. If you can write an awesome PS that is 2 pages then keep it at 2. Quality over quantity

KatCoco wrote:

shoparoundthecorner wrote:

RamTitan wrote:

RictusErectus wrote:Checking in! Looking forward to that 4-page PS

Does it need to be 4 pages? I'd much rather submit a strong 2 page personal statement rather than a padded one

Wondering a similar thing. My personal statement is now a little over two pages. I'm very happy with it and have spent a lot of time polishing it. Is four pages an unofficial requirement?

My thinking is that since they've added a "Why Berkeley" essay prompt (first time ever), the four page length isn't as important as it used to be. They previously emphasized talking about why you want to go to Berkeley in your PS, but that obviously doesn't apply anymore.

Thanks for the reply! I don't think I'm doing the Why Berkeley because I've already geared the PS to Berkeley (my reasons for wanting to go there are connected to what I wrote about in the PS, so it seemed more natural to put them in the same place.) I'll give it some thought though.

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Received email today that app is under review.

Assasindowntheavenue wrote:Received email today that app is under review.

same, probably under review for a scary long time though

SilverSurfer2020 wrote:

Assasindowntheavenue wrote:Received email today that app is under review.

same, probably under review for a scary long time though

Yeah earliest admit I've seen is November. Which is technically a month away but still goddamn long.

Assasindowntheavenue wrote:

SilverSurfer2020 wrote:

Assasindowntheavenue wrote:Received email today that app is under review.

same, probably under review for a scary long time though

Yeah earliest admit I've seen is November. Which is technically a month away but still goddamn long.

Got that email as well. Last year I was UR for a while.

ProductofUnreality wrote:

Assasindowntheavenue wrote:

SilverSurfer2020 wrote:

Assasindowntheavenue wrote:Received email today that app is under review.

same, probably under review for a scary long time though

Yeah earliest admit I've seen is November. Which is technically a month away but still goddamn long.

Got that email as well. Last year I was UR for a while.

Mind saying how long?

Assasindowntheavenue wrote:

ProductofUnreality wrote:

Assasindowntheavenue wrote:

SilverSurfer2020 wrote:

Assasindowntheavenue wrote:Received email today that app is under review.

same, probably under review for a scary long time though

Yeah earliest admit I've seen is November. Which is technically a month away but still goddamn long.

Got that email as well. Last year I was UR for a while.

Mind saying how long?

Don't remember exactly. Couple of months at least and I applied late December.

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Under review as of yesterday!

anyone request a fee waiver through their online form? how long does it take for them to respond?