Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017) Forum

[Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash]

There are pretty clearly like 4 numbers that every package could contain, but I'm surprised we're not seeing at 114K offers this year.

[Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash]

Got my scholarship letter, was in the range of what I expected to get but very close to the lesser end of the spectrum. Likely still going to be in Durham though!

Yay it looks like you got yours today as well! Mine was also in the range of what I expected (although I was greedily hoping for more) I'll need to see offers from other schools before I make a final decision though

mind PMing me #s and offer?

PM'ed!

Can you hit me up with that data too?

[Christinabruin]

Got my scholarship letter, was in the range of what I expected to get but very close to the lesser end of the spectrum. Likely still going to be in Durham though!

Yay it looks like you got yours today as well! Mine was also in the range of what I expected (although I was greedily hoping for more) I'll need to see offers from other schools before I make a final decision though

mind PMing me #s and offer?

PM'ed!

Can you hit me up with that data too?

Will do! I wish Duke scholly was as generous as me handing out PMs of my stats lolol

[joeytribbiani]

Got my scholarship letter, was in the range of what I expected to get but very close to the lesser end of the spectrum. Likely still going to be in Durham though!

Yay it looks like you got yours today as well! Mine was also in the range of what I expected (although I was greedily hoping for more) I'll need to see offers from other schools before I make a final decision though

mind PMing me #s and offer?

PM'ed!

Can you hit me up with that data too?

Will do! I wish Duke scholly was as generous as me handing out PMs of my stats lolol

PMing both now!

[eck456]

Anybody get scholarship mailed today?

Just checked - yes! (interviewed 1/26)

my letter sent today as well! 2/21 - interview 1/25

[Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash]

For anyone waiting on a scholarship, these are the back of the envelope averages for scholarship bands based on LSN numbers:

Scholarship GPA LSAT
176,100 175 4.03
120,000 172 3.92
105,000 171 3.87
90,000 167 3.77
81,000 170 3.77
75,000 170 3.77
72,000 169 3.77
67,500 170 3.80
54,000 167 3.75

Obviously very little data but I think it is interesting to see how the bands fall generally speaking

Also sorry the format is shit, I couldn't figure out how to do a table

[GOODWORKSTE]

For anyone waiting on a scholarship, these are the back of the envelope averages for scholarship bands based on LSN numbers:

Scholarship GPA LSAT
176,100 175 4.03
120,000 172 3.92
105,000 171 3.87
90,000 167 3.77
81,000 170 3.77
75,000 170 3.77
72,000 169 3.77
67,500 170 3.80
54,000 167 3.75

Obviously very little data but I think it is interesting to see how the bands fall generally speaking

Also sorry the format is shit, I couldn't figure out how to do a table

How long does it take for the mail to arrive? My package is on its way

[Christinabruin]

How long does it take for the mail to arrive? My package is on its way

Mine took exactly 7 days but it seems like some people got them as early as 4 days later.

[candidatesoup]

For anyone waiting on a scholarship, these are the back of the envelope averages for scholarship bands based on LSN numbers:

Scholarship GPA LSAT
176,100 175 4.03
120,000 172 3.92
105,000 171 3.87
90,000 167 3.77
81,000 170 3.77
75,000 170 3.77
72,000 169 3.77
67,500 170 3.80
54,000 167 3.75

Obviously very little data but I think it is interesting to see how the bands fall generally speaking

Also sorry the format is shit, I couldn't figure out how to do a table

Thanks for this, I have a few questions for anyone who has received their aid package -

Do you think these numbers posted include need-based aid? When Duke deliver scholarship $$, do they let you know how much was for need and how much for merit, or is it lumped together?

If you sit at these numbers but are v poor, is there a possibility of receiving more $$?

[GOODWORKSTE]

How long does it take for the mail to arrive? My package is on its way

Mine took exactly 7 days but it seems like some people got them as early as 4 days later.

so is before the weekend likely in the best case scenario?

[harmcharm]

For anyone waiting on a scholarship, these are the back of the envelope averages for scholarship bands based on LSN numbers:

Scholarship GPA LSAT
176,100 175 4.03
120,000 172 3.92
105,000 171 3.87
90,000 167 3.77
81,000 170 3.77
75,000 170 3.77
72,000 169 3.77
67,500 170 3.80
54,000 167 3.75

Obviously very little data but I think it is interesting to see how the bands fall generally speaking

Also sorry the format is shit, I couldn't figure out how to do a table

Something else to consider: I'm in one of the JD/LLMs, and my interviewer explicitly told me that the higher tuition for those people is a factor in the decision. So if there's a slight discrepancy between people with similar numbers that could be why.

[azaleafire]

How long does it take for the mail to arrive? My package is on its way

Mine took exactly 7 days but it seems like some people got them as early as 4 days later.

I still haven't gotten mine #bitter

[Stephylynette]

For anyone waiting on a scholarship, these are the back of the envelope averages for scholarship bands based on LSN numbers:

Scholarship GPA LSAT
176,100 175 4.03
120,000 172 3.92
105,000 171 3.87
90,000 167 3.77
81,000 170 3.77
75,000 170 3.77
72,000 169 3.77
67,500 170 3.80
54,000 167 3.75

Obviously very little data but I think it is interesting to see how the bands fall generally speaking

Also sorry the format is shit, I couldn't figure out how to do a table

Thanks for this, I have a few questions for anyone who has received their aid package -

Do you think these numbers posted include need-based aid? When Duke deliver scholarship $$, do they let you know how much was for need and how much for merit, or is it lumped together?

If you sit at these numbers but are v poor, is there a possibility of receiving more $$?

Mine definitely included a bunch of need based aid. My numbers don't warrant how much I received. In my CSS profile and my interview, I made sure to emphasize that I wouldn't be receiving any help from my parents and that my public Interest career goals would require substantial aid in order for me to attend. I honestly think they paid attention to that.

[emilycyoung1]

Anybody have any idea how long it takes/when people start hearing back about waitlist?

[HopefulVaultDweller]

I just got a letter saying I will be receiving no aid from Duke. It's like a knife in the back. I made it clear I cannot attend without financial aid. My stats would put me around 90,000 in merit without consideration for financial need. I have extreme financial need on top of that. It just feels like they are trying to get rid of me or something. Could this be a mistake? Did anyone else get nothing when their stats and need merit otherwise? Should I email them to ask if it was a mistake?

[20172017]

I just got a letter saying I will be receiving no aid from Duke. It's like a knife in the back. I made it clear I cannot attend without financial aid. My stats would put me around 90,000 in merit without consideration for financial need. I have extreme financial need on top of that. It just feels like they are trying to get rid of me or something. Could this be a mistake? Did anyone else get nothing when their stats and need merit otherwise? Should I email them to ask if it was a mistake?

D: I'm really sorry to hear that, I can imagine how awful that must feel. I would contact them just to get an idea of what their thought process was...and where to go from here.

I can't speak to whether or not this is a common occurrence, but maybe others can chime in.

[Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash]

I just got a letter saying I will be receiving no aid from Duke. It's like a knife in the back. I made it clear I cannot attend without financial aid. My stats would put me around 90,000 in merit without consideration for financial need. I have extreme financial need on top of that. It just feels like they are trying to get rid of me or something. Could this be a mistake? Did anyone else get nothing when their stats and need merit otherwise? Should I email them to ask if it was a mistake?

What were your stats? I have literally never heard of this. 75% of students received aid and I honestly thought only a handful of people who took the time to apply would be nixed. This sounds like they messed up or something really significant happened...

[pizzagoblin]

I just got a letter saying I will be receiving no aid from Duke. It's like a knife in the back. I made it clear I cannot attend without financial aid. My stats would put me around 90,000 in merit without consideration for financial need. I have extreme financial need on top of that. It just feels like they are trying to get rid of me or something. Could this be a mistake? Did anyone else get nothing when their stats and need merit otherwise? Should I email them to ask if it was a mistake?

This is terrible! So sorry that happened. I'm not sure I found frame it as a "mistake" rather than asking what they took into consideration to come to that decision.

Mind sharing your stats with me, as well?

[HopefulVaultDweller]

I just got a letter saying I will be receiving no aid from Duke. It's like a knife in the back. I made it clear I cannot attend without financial aid. My stats would put me around 90,000 in merit without consideration for financial need. I have extreme financial need on top of that. It just feels like they are trying to get rid of me or something. Could this be a mistake? Did anyone else get nothing when their stats and need merit otherwise? Should I email them to ask if it was a mistake?

This is terrible! So sorry that happened. I'm not sure I found frame it as a "mistake" rather than asking what they took into consideration to come to that decision.

Mind sharing your stats with me, as well?

I don't want to identify exact stats because I don't want to identify myself to the admissions people. I'm at 50th percentile LSAT, well over 75th on GPA. URM. Still trying to wrap my head around it. I got extremely good scholarships from other, even higher ranked schools. I was still set on Duke as my first choice though. I will also have literally no support from my parents whatsoever and loans are not an option. But yeah, given that there is no way I can attend with no package I might as well email them and ask them what their thought process was. Thanks for the advice.

[proteinshake]

I just got a letter saying I will be receiving no aid from Duke. It's like a knife in the back. I made it clear I cannot attend without financial aid. My stats would put me around 90,000 in merit without consideration for financial need. I have extreme financial need on top of that. It just feels like they are trying to get rid of me or something. Could this be a mistake? Did anyone else get nothing when their stats and need merit otherwise? Should I email them to ask if it was a mistake?

This is terrible! So sorry that happened. I'm not sure I found frame it as a "mistake" rather than asking what they took into consideration to come to that decision.

Mind sharing your stats with me, as well?

I don't want to identify exact stats because I don't want to identify myself to the admissions people. I'm at 50th percentile LSAT, well over 75th on GPA. URM. Still trying to wrap my head around it. I got extremely good scholarships from other, even higher ranked schools. I was still set on Duke as my first choice though. I will also have literally no support from my parents whatsoever and loans are not an option.

this is weird. I also see that you only got 75K from Michigan. are you sure it isn't something about your app? if those really are your stats, you should have gotten well over 100K at Michigan as well. with URM status, those are Darrow numbers.

[HopefulVaultDweller]

I just got a letter saying I will be receiving no aid from Duke. It's like a knife in the back. I made it clear I cannot attend without financial aid. My stats would put me around 90,000 in merit without consideration for financial need. I have extreme financial need on top of that. It just feels like they are trying to get rid of me or something. Could this be a mistake? Did anyone else get nothing when their stats and need merit otherwise? Should I email them to ask if it was a mistake?

This is terrible! So sorry that happened. I'm not sure I found frame it as a "mistake" rather than asking what they took into consideration to come to that decision.

Mind sharing your stats with me, as well?

I don't want to identify exact stats because I don't want to identify myself to the admissions people. I'm at 50th percentile LSAT, well over 75th on GPA. URM. Still trying to wrap my head around it. I got extremely good scholarships from other, even higher ranked schools. I was still set on Duke as my first choice though. I will also have literally no support from my parents whatsoever and loans are not an option.

this is weird. I also see that you only got 75K from Michigan. are you sure it isn't something about your app? if those really are your stats, you should have gotten well over 100K at Michigan as well. with URM status, those are Darrow numbers.

I had excellent recs and a decent (though not great) resume. I got an extremely competitive scholly at Cornell and some T-20 schools too so no idea what happened. The interview okay as well (again not great but well). But I appreciate the support y'all. Hopefully another top choice of mine will come through. I was just really dead set on Duke.

[grades??]

I just got a letter saying I will be receiving no aid from Duke. It's like a knife in the back. I made it clear I cannot attend without financial aid. My stats would put me around 90,000 in merit without consideration for financial need. I have extreme financial need on top of that. It just feels like they are trying to get rid of me or something. Could this be a mistake? Did anyone else get nothing when their stats and need merit otherwise? Should I email them to ask if it was a mistake?

This is terrible! So sorry that happened. I'm not sure I found frame it as a "mistake" rather than asking what they took into consideration to come to that decision.

Mind sharing your stats with me, as well?

I don't want to identify exact stats because I don't want to identify myself to the admissions people. I'm at 50th percentile LSAT, well over 75th on GPA. URM. Still trying to wrap my head around it. I got extremely good scholarships from other, even higher ranked schools. I was still set on Duke as my first choice though. I will also have literally no support from my parents whatsoever and loans are not an option.

this is weird. I also see that you only got 75K from Michigan. are you sure it isn't something about your app? if those really are your stats, you should have gotten well over 100K at Michigan as well. with URM status, those are Darrow numbers.

I had excellent recs and a decent (though not great) resume. I got an extremely competitive scholly at Cornell and some T-20 schools too so no idea what happened. The interview okay as well (again not great but well). But I appreciate the support y'all. Hopefully another top choice of mine will come through. I was just really dead set on Duke.

Likely there is something wrong with your app. Like seriously wrong. Also, I'm not saying Duke is doing this, but if you really have such a desperate need for financial help, school(s) might realize even if they give you 50% scholarship you still couldn't attend, and they decided they aren't giving you a full scholarship, then they are just cutting to the chase by not giving you much/if at all.

Also, it might be that you think you are an URM but just aren't getting the bump. I have no idea if this is the case, but seems at least like an explanation.

[HopefulVaultDweller]

I just got a letter saying I will be receiving no aid from Duke. It's like a knife in the back. I made it clear I cannot attend without financial aid. My stats would put me around 90,000 in merit without consideration for financial need. I have extreme financial need on top of that. It just feels like they are trying to get rid of me or something. Could this be a mistake? Did anyone else get nothing when their stats and need merit otherwise? Should I email them to ask if it was a mistake?

This is terrible! So sorry that happened. I'm not sure I found frame it as a "mistake" rather than asking what they took into consideration to come to that decision.

Mind sharing your stats with me, as well?

I don't want to identify exact stats because I don't want to identify myself to the admissions people. I'm at 50th percentile LSAT, well over 75th on GPA. URM. Still trying to wrap my head around it. I got extremely good scholarships from other, even higher ranked schools. I was still set on Duke as my first choice though. I will also have literally no support from my parents whatsoever and loans are not an option.

this is weird. I also see that you only got 75K from Michigan. are you sure it isn't something about your app? if those really are your stats, you should have gotten well over 100K at Michigan as well. with URM status, those are Darrow numbers.

I had excellent recs and a decent (though not great) resume. I got an extremely competitive scholly at Cornell and some T-20 schools too so no idea what happened. The interview okay as well (again not great but well). But I appreciate the support y'all. Hopefully another top choice of mine will come through. I was just really dead set on Duke.

Likely there is something wrong with your app. Like seriously wrong. Also, I'm not saying Duke is doing this, but if you really have such a desperate need for financial help, school(s) might realize even if they give you 50% scholarship you still couldn't attend, and they decided they aren't giving you a full scholarship, then they are just cutting to the chase by not giving you much/if at all.

Yeah, I don't know. Maybe I messed up the CSS and made it seem like I'm a billionaire. I don't think there is anything wrong with my general app given that I have done very well at almost every other school. I like your point on not giving anything to those with extreme financial need. Maybe that's what they were doing. But honestly, if they just told me that it would hurt a whole lot less than this. Does anyone know if any schools have done similar things in the past? Any experience would be appreciated.

[Keilz]

I just got a letter

Not sure why you only got $75K from Michigan because they don't consider your financial history in making merit aid, but if Duke is your first choice you can definitely let them know that but say the COA with your scholarship at Michigan is more competitive. Say you will definitely attend if they match Michigans offer. Obv say it a different more diplomatic and grateful way

[proteinshake]

ugh I hate how unpredictable the scholarships are!

sidenote: I'm glad there's a Costco near Duke