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c/o 2019 LGBTQ Applicants (2015-2016)

Post by scone » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:42 pm

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Hey folks! Welcome to the c/o 2019 LGBTQ Applicants thread!

Friends and allies welcome. It would be great to hear current/former students’ experiences and advice – drop by and say hi!

Feel free to use & abuse this thread how you see fit. Play nice, kids!

Here are some useful resources, lovingly curated by (and shamelessly stolen from) whitespider in last year’s thread (many thanks!). I’ve updated the links, let me know if any are broken.

T14 LGBTQ student groups:
Yale OutLaws
Harvard Lamda Legal
Stanford Outlaw
Chicago Outlaw
Columbia OutLaws
NYU OUTLaw
Penn Lambda Law
Virginia Lambda Law Alliance
Berkeley Queer Caucus
Michigan Outlaws
Duke Outlaw
Northwestern Outlaw
Cornell Lambda
Georgetown Outlaw

LSAC's LGBT Survey:
Find out which schools have non-discrimination policies, LGBT student organizations, LGBT faulty & admins, and LGBT related courses.
http://www.lsac.org/jd/diversity-in-law ... iew/survey

The National LGBT Bar Association:
http://lgbtbar.org/

The Lavender Law Conference & Career Fair:
http://lgbtbar.org/annual/

The ABA's LGBT Diversity page:
http://www.americanbar.org/diversity/le ... wyers.html

The best law firms for LGBT Lawyers:
http://abovethelaw.com/2013/12/the-best ... lawyers-2/

Last Year's Thread:
http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... 4&t=235535

Aaaand back to the c/o 2019 Applicant Compendium:
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 7&t=252258

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Post by scone » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:48 pm

Muiraquita wrote:Thanks Scone! I was far too lazy to do it myself. :D
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Post by scone » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:05 pm

gobears!! wrote:I totally was unaware of that fact that Chicago has 0 LGBT faculty-very surprised actually. Good resources!
Agreed. Also a bit odd that Stanford aren't listed in the LSAC LGBT survey. Not the sort of place you'd expect to be LGBTQ unfriendly, but still.

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Thanks for settng this up Scone!

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Yay! Thanks scone!

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Post by SabbathPuppet » Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:25 am

I wonder whether it would be helpful compare the attitudes of the local communities that surround these law schools, particularly when it comes to states or localities that don't have anti-discrimination ordinances for things like housing.

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Post by darlenealderson » Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:08 am

Hey y'all. Wondering how many people chose to identify as LGBTQIA+ etc. on applications where this was asked (NYU and Columbia are the ones I know of)? It definitely surprised me that this was a question on the application.

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Post by OLitch » Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:05 am

I am struggling with the LGBT questions on the applications. Thanks for including the "Q" BTW.

Backstory: I am in a monogamous marriage with someone of the opposite sex. I am madly in love with him and we live life as a straight couple. If I had it my way, I would never live life without him.

My issue is that I am bisexual. Prior to my marriage, My friends were aware of this fact and my family had suspicions. I actually thought I was a lesbian before meeting my husband. Attending high school in an ultra conservative area, many of my friends identified as LGBTQ and we stuck together.

Here is the question. I identify as monogamous. I would feel like a fraud if I put that I identify as LGBT because on the surface no one (not even my close current friends) knows how I feel. In my heart I know I am not straight. I am thinking about just not answering the question. So far my applications have these questions unanswered. It may seem like I am over thinking things but this is more than just an application issue. This is about being true to myself. What are your thoughts on what I should do?

My apologies if I come across as a whiny jerk. This really is important to me. I feel like this is more about interguity than sexuality. My husband and prelaw advisor have not offered any useful advice.

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Post by ltbenn » Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:35 am

heeeeey!

Just wondering - how many of you are planning on writing a diversity statement about being LGBTQ? I'm a little torn about it...
On the one hand, I'm lucky to have never really been disadvantaged or ostracized for my orientation (I'm a gay man) - so I don't have one of those "it gets better" stories of overcoming hardship etc.
On the other hand, would it be weird to check off the LGBTQ box on the application and then not say anything about it? Would I be missing an opportunity?

Background - if I were to submit one, I'd probably write about living abroad for the past few years in a country where being openly gay is super hit-or-miss (in some areas it's basically the west village, and in others it's more like the middle ages...) - though I've been living in the west village part pretty much exclusively, so it feels a little disingenuous...

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Muiraquita wrote:
darlenealderson wrote:Hey y'all. Wondering how many people chose to identify as LGBTQIA+ etc. on applications where this was asked (NYU and Columbia are the ones I know of)? It definitely surprised me that this was a question on the application.

I did. While I don't think it'll make a huge difference either way, I know some schools (my roommate is a 3L at a t-14, and very involved in their admin stuff) are really trying to diversify and get more students from different backgrounds, because with a few exceptions the legal field is still pretty homogeneous both racially and when it comes to LGBTQ representation,

Plus I figure if it gives any sort of boost to my application, might as well.
Got it. The reason I questioned it is that honestly I am not out to many people and while by the time I'm in law school I'm hoping to be more open about it and get involved in groups on campus related to it, I kind of felt like I hadn't earned the right to identify as LGBTQ+ on my application. I chose to anyway, figuring that if they were asking it probably couldn't hurt, and it's not like it isn't true (if anyone were to ask me directly what my sexual orientation is, I'd be honest about it, I just haven't had the "ok so here's me coming out" conversation with many people yet.

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Post by ltbenn » Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:53 am

Muiraquita wrote: I totally think you have that right. Just because you're not fully out to everyone or not really involved with the LGBTQ community doesn't mean you can't still identify as a part of it. :D
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Muiraquita wrote: all of the +1's
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Thanks for all of the positive responses! :) Makes me feel much better about it

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