Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group
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Preciate the encouragement!twiix wrote:The LOR's will still be good.doglawin wrote:digitality wrote:i don't know a whole lot, but i do know that admissions at most places are rolling, so submitting that late in the game really puts you behind the eight ball. even with a killer LSAT, i'm sure that GPA will turn some heads, so your safest bet probably is waiting for 19.doglawin wrote:Hi team, checking in!
So I've yet to take the LSAT. I started studying in June and despite having a full time job, I've been able to study well and improve my score 165-167 (though I haven't finished my PS LG studies).
I'm a bit confused and maybe one of you can help me. My uGPA is unfortunately mediocre, I went to a few schools and failed out of the first one. However, my GPA saw a major improvement at the school I graduated from, even though I had an internship and an assistant research position my senior year. I've spoken to two professors who have assured me strong LOR's. The confusion lies in my application timeline, I want to take the December test to ensure a 170+, hopefully that will make up for my 2.7 uGPA. But I've heard that even with a brilliant score I shouldn't apply until the 2019 cycle, rather than the 18 cycle. The reasoning is that I won't be able to submit my application until late December and that'll hurt my chances as a splitter. What do you think?
Thanks,
DogLawvin'
thanks! As much as I don't want to wait another year, I'm probably going to have to hold off. I do have a good job though. Do you know if my LORs from this year will hold for next year's application cycle? I recently graduated in May so if I apply for the 19 cycle I'll have only been out of school 1.5 years
If you will have the rest of your app ready after the December test, and you have some funds available, it wouldn't be an awful idea to throw some apps in this cycle and see what happens. It's going to be incredibly unpredictable since this is the first full cycle after the 3-LSAT/2 year limit removal. Likely going to see an upswing in high LSAT scores being reported due to retakers. With that being said, if you don't get accepted or you don't get the scholarship money necessary you could always wait until 19. But you'll never know if you don't try!
I'm also shit tier GPA (sub 3.0), so I'm in the same struggle bus as you are. I still have hope for a T14 hail mary this cycle despite the uphill battle we face. Just gotta kill the LSAT!
I'm scheduled for September atm but I don't think I'll be able to get to the 172+ range like I was planning on originally by then. Still have a long way to go in RC to get my score down.. I've brought it down from -8 to about -5, but still need to pick up some more points that I always fuck up (the first RC passage MP q always wrecks me for some reason).doglawin wrote:Preciate the encouragement!twiix wrote:The LOR's will still be good.doglawin wrote:digitality wrote:i don't know a whole lot, but i do know that admissions at most places are rolling, so submitting that late in the game really puts you behind the eight ball. even with a killer LSAT, i'm sure that GPA will turn some heads, so your safest bet probably is waiting for 19.doglawin wrote:Hi team, checking in!
So I've yet to take the LSAT. I started studying in June and despite having a full time job, I've been able to study well and improve my score 165-167 (though I haven't finished my PS LG studies).
I'm a bit confused and maybe one of you can help me. My uGPA is unfortunately mediocre, I went to a few schools and failed out of the first one. However, my GPA saw a major improvement at the school I graduated from, even though I had an internship and an assistant research position my senior year. I've spoken to two professors who have assured me strong LOR's. The confusion lies in my application timeline, I want to take the December test to ensure a 170+, hopefully that will make up for my 2.7 uGPA. But I've heard that even with a brilliant score I shouldn't apply until the 2019 cycle, rather than the 18 cycle. The reasoning is that I won't be able to submit my application until late December and that'll hurt my chances as a splitter. What do you think?
Thanks,
DogLawvin'
thanks! As much as I don't want to wait another year, I'm probably going to have to hold off. I do have a good job though. Do you know if my LORs from this year will hold for next year's application cycle? I recently graduated in May so if I apply for the 19 cycle I'll have only been out of school 1.5 years
If you will have the rest of your app ready after the December test, and you have some funds available, it wouldn't be an awful idea to throw some apps in this cycle and see what happens. It's going to be incredibly unpredictable since this is the first full cycle after the 3-LSAT/2 year limit removal. Likely going to see an upswing in high LSAT scores being reported due to retakers. With that being said, if you don't get accepted or you don't get the scholarship money necessary you could always wait until 19. But you'll never know if you don't try!
I'm also shit tier GPA (sub 3.0), so I'm in the same struggle bus as you are. I still have hope for a T14 hail mary this cycle despite the uphill battle we face. Just gotta kill the LSAT!
All these changes-- the removal of LSAT caps, schools taking GRE's-- really worry me as a (potential) super splitter.
But if we're talking about killing, then let's talk about murdering the exam! If you're taking the December good luck! I'm sure we'll keep up with everyone's progress
Yes that's normal. Scores typically come out a few days before the specified date though. But yes, that amount of time waiting is normal.Csupo wrote:So I'm looking at the LSAC page for the December 2017 LSAT: https://www.lsac.org/jd/lsat/test-dates ... canada-dec
It says the score release date (approximate) would be Jan 4, 2018. Is this normal? That's more than a month after the exam, lol?
Yep, totally normal. They would probably come out a few days earlier if the holiday season did't fall when it does, but around a month is typical with regards to LSAT score waiting time.Csupo wrote:So I'm looking at the LSAC page for the December 2017 LSAT: https://www.lsac.org/jd/lsat/test-dates ... canada-dec
It says the score release date (approximate) would be Jan 4, 2018. Is this normal? That's more than a month after the exam, lol?
Learn the foundation. If you don't like PS then look for another resource. A lot of people use the LSAT trainer. As you drill put it in a tracker like the 7sage analytics so that you can see which questions you're messing up, the type, and accuracy rate for each type of question. You can analyze across all data or just the most recent X PTs to see the change. It's great because they give you a priority based on the question type and the likelihood it'll be on the test. i.e. if you're at 50% accuracy at a question type that will probably consist of 7 question on the test, it'll tell you that one is a higher priority question type to fix versus another question type that you have 50% accuracy but will probably only appear 2x in the test.LawEngr wrote:Getting ready for a career change from Engineering to Law. Didnt do so well on my Diagnostic with a 144 but aiming for a 168 by the time December rolls around. Enrolled in Powerscore full length course and got the Bibles as study aid.
Any advice on how to improve on Logical reasoning? Powerscore bibles seem too pedantic.
Experiment626 wrote:Learn the foundation. If you don't like PS then look for another resource. A lot of people use the LSAT trainer. As you drill put it in a tracker like the 7sage analytics so that you can see which questions you're messing up, the type, and accuracy rate for each type of question. You can analyze across all data or just the most recent X PTs to see the change. It's great because they give you a priority based on the question type and the likelihood it'll be on the test. i.e. if you're at 50% accuracy at a question type that will probably consist of 7 question on the test, it'll tell you that one is a higher priority question type to fix versus another question type that you have 50% accuracy but will probably only appear 2x in the test.LawEngr wrote:Getting ready for a career change from Engineering to Law. Didnt do so well on my Diagnostic with a 144 but aiming for a 168 by the time December rolls around. Enrolled in Powerscore full length course and got the Bibles as study aid.
Any advice on how to improve on Logical reasoning? Powerscore bibles seem too pedantic.
A lot of incorrect answer choices will incorrectly attack solely the premise(s) or the conclusion(s). You want to accept the fact that the premises given are true and factual. You want to find a way to conclude that, if these premises are true, there is no way the conclusion can follow from the given information. Really focus on answer choices that ruin the argument; the bridge that connects the premises to the conclusion.LawEngr wrote:I am having some trouble with Weaken questions. I can trim down the answer choices down to 2 or 3 contenders, but I often select the wrong answer. The issue I am having is tying back the new information presented in the answer choices to the stimulus. I am using Powerscore bible and have gone through it once but still making repeated mistakes. Whats the most effective way to tackle Weaken questions?
I think it's coming out in October, I preordered it.MercW07 wrote:Anyone know when the next 10 Actual Book will be available? I know were due for another one this year, but Im just hoping it will be out soon so I can make my way through it before December.
Where were you able to preorder?InnocentKittenz wrote:I think it's coming out in October, I preordered it.MercW07 wrote:Anyone know when the next 10 Actual Book will be available? I know were due for another one this year, but Im just hoping it will be out soon so I can make my way through it before December.
AmazonMercW07 wrote:Where were you able to preorder?InnocentKittenz wrote:I think it's coming out in October, I preordered it.MercW07 wrote:Anyone know when the next 10 Actual Book will be available? I know were due for another one this year, but Im just hoping it will be out soon so I can make my way through it before December.