The Official September 2017 Study Group Forum

[Alexandros]

I think it depends on the individual/situation/goals, tbh. YS (especially Y) can be quite generous with need-based aid.

Yeah, of course. I was just more speaking from my perspective as someone who probably wouldn't get much financial aid or help from parents. That being said, if my parents were willing to help with COL, then the situation would be completely different, and YS would be much more viable and sexy. Or to put it simply, if debt < 100k, I'd be for it.

Yeah the finaid calculations can definitely screw people over. Of course don't know your situation but I've heard Y is pretty good with keeping debt at the base-loan level. 100k limit would be tricky though.

Yeah, from what I've seen YS are both quite generous. I don't want to say 100k is a hard limit, it's more just what I'd feel comfortable with because of where I could get that much money from. After that it would become much more of a debate.

Depends on goals too. If you're really passionate about the possibility of academia Y might be worth it. Or you're trying to be president lol.

Yeah, totally agree. Like I feel like I'd be willing to handle a few years of having to pay off debt if I felt like it would substantially increase my chances of being where I want in ten or fifteen years. But if your goals are generic BL or something, def take the money.

Decisions would be easier if we weren't trying to be unicorns, eh?

[presidentspivey]

Why the sad face Alexandros?

[dj9i27]

y Mikey no post moar

[Alexandros]

y Mikey no post moar

[chargers21]

I didn't flex post on Facebook when I got into Chicago and now that I've committed to Duke it's too late. HOW ARE PEOPLE GOING TO KNOW I TURNED THEM DOWN?!? Lol

If y'all are curious, I'm seriously so excited about Duke even if I am thinking a little bit in my head "what could have been" about Chicago. I went with my cheapest t13 option, the school that I clicked with the most in the city I liked the most, and they have hella great employment stats to boot. Oh, and they give me a shot at grabbing a southern market BL job. But yeah, since I'm going generic transactional BL and I am not actively looking for a top firm in a major market, Chicago probably didn't make the most sense for me when debt at repayment was 80-90k higher at Chicago.

Everyone cross their fingers for me on getting my southern BL job

[presidentspivey]

I didn't flex post on Facebook when I got into Chicago and now that I've committed to Duke it's too late. HOW ARE PEOPLE GOING TO KNOW I TURNED THEM DOWN?!? Lol

If y'all are curious, I'm seriously so excited about Duke even if I am thinking a little bit in my head "what could have been" about Chicago. I went with my cheapest t13 option, the school that I clicked with the most in the city I liked the most, and they have hella great employment stats to boot. Oh, and they give me a shot at grabbing a southern market BL job. But yeah, since I'm going generic transactional BL and I am not actively looking for a top firm in a major market, Chicago probably didn't make the most sense for me when debt at repayment was 80-90k higher at Chicago.

Everyone cross their fingers for me on getting my southern BL job

You absolutely made the right choice dude.

[Alexandros]

I didn't flex post on Facebook when I got into Chicago and now that I've committed to Duke it's too late. HOW ARE PEOPLE GOING TO KNOW I TURNED THEM DOWN?!? Lol

If y'all are curious, I'm seriously so excited about Duke even if I am thinking a little bit in my head "what could have been" about Chicago. I went with my cheapest t13 option, the school that I clicked with the most in the city I liked the most, and they have hella great employment stats to boot. Oh, and they give me a shot at grabbing a southern market BL job. But yeah, since I'm going generic transactional BL and I am not actively looking for a top firm in a major market, Chicago probably didn't make the most sense for me when debt at repayment was 80-90k higher at Chicago.

Everyone cross their fingers for me on getting my southern BL job

So happy for you Chargers!! You definitely made the right choice. Duke's an amazing school.

[chargers21]

You absolutely made the right choice dude.

Thanks for the reassurance!

I didn't flex post on Facebook when I got into Chicago and now that I've committed to Duke it's too late. HOW ARE PEOPLE GOING TO KNOW I TURNED THEM DOWN?!? Lol

If y'all are curious, I'm seriously so excited about Duke even if I am thinking a little bit in my head "what could have been" about Chicago. I went with my cheapest t13 option, the school that I clicked with the most in the city I liked the most, and they have hella great employment stats to boot. Oh, and they give me a shot at grabbing a southern market BL job. But yeah, since I'm going generic transactional BL and I am not actively looking for a top firm in a major market, Chicago probably didn't make the most sense for me when debt at repayment was 80-90k higher at Chicago.

Everyone cross their fingers for me on getting my southern BL job

So happy for you Chargers!! You definitely made the right choice. Duke's an amazing school.

Thanks Alex! You talk nice about Duke now, but you're going to get the Mordecai here in a few years and turn it down for the YEHL

[chargers21]

From someone on the chicago thread

"So this morning I got an email telling me UChicago was offering me a scholarship covering all of tuition, $190,000. Up from my negotiated offer of $75,000, totally out of the blue. Don't mean to boast, I'm just so floored I wanted to tell people."

[Alexandros]

From someone on the chicago thread

"So this morning I got an email telling me UChicago was offering me a scholarship covering all of tuition, $190,000. Up from my negotiated offer of $75,000, totally out of the blue. Don't mean to boast, I'm just so floored I wanted to tell people."

....

[oopsu812]

Call me crazy, but I'm incredibly excited to get back to school on Monday. Being bored is the absolute worst.

[appind]

WL at almost all the schools i applied to and no admit. fml

can't bring myself to take this test again but here i am.

[oopsu812]

WL at almost all the schools i applied to and no admit. fml

can't bring myself to take this test again but here i am.

I'm sorry to hear that man. I hope our constant shit-posting and occasional LSAT talk in this thread can make it at least a little less shitty for you.

[appind]

those who have done LOCI, anyone have a sample to see how one is written?

can one include 'why law' answer in the LOCI if the original app didn't have it and the q is very relevant to the file?

[appind]

I'm sorry to hear that man. I hope our constant shit-posting shitpoasting and occasional LSAT talk in this thread can make it at least a little less shitty for you.

nice

obligatory shitpoast

[Alexandros]

WL at almost all the schools i applied to and no admit. fml

can't bring myself to take this test again but here i am.

Seems like this has been a cycle with a lot of WLs for some. Iirc, you had a pretty late app?
If you don't get off the waitlists with decent money, apply the first day apps open next fall. Maybe take some time to have people look over your application during the summer and write Why Xs for the schools that YP. You have strong numbers - You definitely don't need to take the LSAT again!

[Alexandros]

those who have done LOCI, anyone have a sample to see how one is written?

can one include 'why law' answer in the LOCI if the original app didn't have it and the q is very relevant to the file?

I don't have a sample, but in answer to the second question: You could definitely tie "why law" and "why *specific* law school" together in your LOCI - Highlight your interests and abilities to succeed in law and combine it with why that school in particular is of interest to you.

[oopsu812]

I'm sorry to hear that man. I hope our constant shit-posting shitpoasting and occasional LSAT talk in this thread can make it at least a little less shitty for you.

nice

obligatory shitpoast

Ouch. A shitpoast roast.

[Rupert Pupkin]

WL at almost all the schools i applied to and no admit. fml

can't bring myself to take this test again but here i am.

Seems like this has been a cycle with a lot of WLs for some. Iirc, you had a pretty late app?
If you don't get off the waitlists with decent money, apply the first day apps open next fall. Maybe take some time to have people look over your application during the summer and write Why Xs for the schools that YP. You have strong numbers - You definitely don't need to take the LSAT again!

Its amazing how much timing can affect your cycle. Ive heard this great advice given to people before and it worked out for people the second time around. Even at HYS. Hopefully, it doesn't come to that bro. it will work out in the end.

[Rupert Pupkin]

From someone on the chicago thread

"So this morning I got an email telling me UChicago was offering me a scholarship covering all of tuition, $190,000. Up from my negotiated offer of $75,000, totally out of the blue. Don't mean to boast, I'm just so floored I wanted to tell people."

....

Wow!

[presidentspivey]

I'm definitely testing in September but more and more I'm thinking of sitting out a cycle. I'm a Super KJD who's completing UG in 3 years in Spring 2018. If I excel my last two semesters I could raise my GPA a full 0.1. I'd be able to apply on day 1 if I waited, plus I think I'd have stronger LORs, and could remove the KJD stigma. Not sure what I'd do with my worthless political science degree though. Probably low grade campaign work or TFA.

[Alexandros]

I'm definitely testing in September but more and more I'm thinking of sitting out a cycle. I'm a Super KJD who's completing UG in 3 years in Spring 2018. If I excel my last two semesters I could raise my GPA a full 0.1. I'd be able to apply on day 1 if I waited, plus I think I'd have stronger LORs, and could remove the KJD stigma. Not sure what I'd do with my worthless political science degree though. Probably low grade campaign work or TFA.

A good idea, imo. And you don't need super impressive work experience - Just find something to do for a few months after you graduate until you apply, shouldn't be too difficult.

[presidentspivey]

I'm definitely testing in September but more and more I'm thinking of sitting out a cycle. I'm a Super KJD who's completing UG in 3 years in Spring 2018. If I excel my last two semesters I could raise my GPA a full 0.1. I'd be able to apply on day 1 if I waited, plus I think I'd have stronger LORs, and could remove the KJD stigma. Not sure what I'd do with my worthless political science degree though. Probably low grade campaign work or TFA.

A good idea, imo. And you don't need super impressive work experience - Just find something to do for a few months after you graduate until you apply, shouldn't be too difficult.

Yeah. It helps that it'll be a midterm year. Several races in my state I can legitimately get excited about.

[presidentspivey]

Anyone else thinking about starting a diet/exercise regime this summer? I want to make sure sitting around for my LSAT prep doesn't tack on weight. Haven't had time during the semester. Plus I'm still about 10lbs heavier than I was in high school.

[oopsu812]

Anyone else thinking about starting a diet/exercise regime this summer? I want to make sure sitting around for my LSAT prep doesn't tack on weight. Haven't had time during the semester. Plus I'm still about 10lbs heavier than I was in high school.

I'm getting my diet on track this week and hoping to add in the gym as soon as possible. I just feel a bit soft, lol.