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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 6:28 pm
by Platopus
lynn.wibi wrote:
I'm scared that this would happen in the actual test. Did PT 65 and, while reviewing, I noticed that almost all of the LR mistakes on the experimental sections are because of extreme carelessness, e.g. read "weaken" as opposed to "strengthen", MBF as opposed to MBT, and so on. Made a mistake in LG diagramming that thankfully cost me only 2 questions--but it could be much worse.

I guess for many of us, mental prep is even more important than drilling at this point. Still trying to figure out the best mental equilibrium to stay 100% focused and sharp throughout the actual test.
Spend the next couple of weeks to figure out your groove. For me, I do best about 2 days after a day off, with a light LG warm up and some real light food. So I'll probably take Friday the 9th to just relax, PT Saturday & review Sunday w/ some drilling. Probably do a light warm up on the morning of the test.

Also keep track of what you eat/drink, caffeine levels, sleep patterns, etc. This all really does matter.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 6:38 pm
by dm1683
Platopus wrote:
lynn.wibi wrote:
I'm scared that this would happen in the actual test. Did PT 65 and, while reviewing, I noticed that almost all of the LR mistakes on the experimental sections are because of extreme carelessness, e.g. read "weaken" as opposed to "strengthen", MBF as opposed to MBT, and so on. Made a mistake in LG diagramming that thankfully cost me only 2 questions--but it could be much worse.

I guess for many of us, mental prep is even more important than drilling at this point. Still trying to figure out the best mental equilibrium to stay 100% focused and sharp throughout the actual test.
Spend the next couple of weeks to figure out your groove. For me, I do best about 2 days after a day off, with a light LG warm up and some real light food. So I'll probably take Friday the 9th to just relax, PT Saturday & review Sunday w/ some drilling. Probably do a light warm up on the morning of the test.

Also keep track of what you eat/drink, caffeine levels, sleep patterns, etc. This all really does matter.
TCR. Although I would caution against drastically adjusting your routine too.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 7:30 pm
by Jack_Kelly
Got a 163 last night after 165, 166, 168 in previous 3 :cry:

Still missing double digit LGs of course, but more RC and LR missed than usual.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 7:34 pm
by zkyggi
Slippin' Jimmy wrote:
Future Ex-Engineer wrote:
DreamerBulk wrote:Working on my speed for the first 10 LR questions. What is the time that you shoot for? 10 Q's in 10 minutes? Any tips on how you were able to speed up?
I wasn't sure how people managed to do this either in the past...then I read through the Trainer and started reading Q stems before the stimulus. Now I'm pretty consistently at 15 in 15 with 20 minutes left for the last 10 or 11.

Highly encourage stem before stim
This x100. Stem before Stim lets you know ahead of time how exactly you should read the stim (whether for structure, flaws, or combination).
I don't understand how anybody could see stim first as the better option. I took a while to transition over because so many tutors advocate stim first but it really doesn't compare imo.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 7:38 pm
by zkyggi
PT 71:

LR1: -2
LG: -1 (Read a could be true as a must be true...)
LR2: -1
RC: -5

174

Really generous curve. I am finding that having RC just kills me. I average -2 or less when RC is before the break, and approach -4 after.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:54 pm
by dm1683
God even if I get that coveted 75-90k from Chicago I'll still be 120-150k in the hole debt-wise. Maybe I should up my target score to 175. Do you guys think 4.0/172 and 4.0/175 differ much in terms of money at CCN?

The last thing I want is to get 4.0/170 and only get 45k and have to either pay 200k in loans to go to my dream school.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 9:00 pm
by Alexandros
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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 9:52 pm
by Mint-Berry_Crunch
dm1683 wrote:God even if I get that coveted 75-90k from Chicago I'll still be 120-150k in the hole debt-wise. Maybe I should up my target score to 175. Do you guys think 4.0/172 and 4.0/175 differ much in terms of money at CCN?

The last thing I want is to get 4.0/170 and only get 45k and have to either pay 200k in loans to go to my dream school.
Just go to the holy trinity

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 10:25 pm
by Platopus
dm1683 wrote:God even if I get that coveted 75-90k from Chicago I'll still be 120-150k in the hole debt-wise. Maybe I should up my target score to 175. Do you guys think 4.0/172 and 4.0/175 differ much in terms of money at CCN?

The last thing I want is to get 4.0/170 and only get 45k and have to either pay 200k in loans to go to my dream school.
Probably a bit, aim for 175 anyway.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 10:38 pm
by dm1683
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
dm1683 wrote:God even if I get that coveted 75-90k from Chicago I'll still be 120-150k in the hole debt-wise. Maybe I should up my target score to 175. Do you guys think 4.0/172 and 4.0/175 differ much in terms of money at CCN?

The last thing I want is to get 4.0/170 and only get 45k and have to either pay 200k in loans to go to my dream school.
Just go to the holy trinity
4.0/170 doesn't get you harvard I don't think. And since my goal is Chicago biglaw I don't think going to harvard would be very advantageous over Chi.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 10:49 pm
by Platopus
dm1683 wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
dm1683 wrote:God even if I get that coveted 75-90k from Chicago I'll still be 120-150k in the hole debt-wise. Maybe I should up my target score to 175. Do you guys think 4.0/172 and 4.0/175 differ much in terms of money at CCN?

The last thing I want is to get 4.0/170 and only get 45k and have to either pay 200k in loans to go to my dream school.
Just go to the holy trinity
4.0/170 doesn't get you harvard I don't think. And since my goal is Chicago biglaw I don't think going to harvard would be very advantageous over Chi.
CHI LOVES that 4.0 GPA. H you'll probably need a 172 to have a decent shot. A 174 is a basically a lock at H.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 11:40 pm
by heyduchess
PT 69

RC: -9

Oh, how the mighty have fallen. :oops:

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 11:53 pm
by Jack_Kelly
Every fucking 7Sage explanation I watch (which is basically all I'm doing ATM since I regularly miss 10+ on AR while missing <10 on the other 3 combined) is another episode of "oh, I should have split the board."

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 1:05 am
by Future Ex-Engineer
zkyggi wrote:
heyduchess wrote:I don't have a shot in hell at Yale (#SplitterLife), but I still love Asha. And her Twitter this week is straight FIRE.

Just thought I'd share for those of you who do have a shot at Yale and need an extra boost of motivation this week. Asha is queen.
The fact that a former FBI agent will be reading my application is intimidating as hell.
Yo. I literally met one of her sorority sisters from Princeton this evening at a music show. It was the weirdest 'small world' moment ever. Started talking with this random couple sitting next to me and they asked what I was in town for and that's how the LSAT/law school came up. That brought up career goals, which brought up FBI. Then the lady was like 'I went to school at Princeton with someone named Asha who worked for them...'

I pulled up her picture and the lady was like YES! THAT'S HER!. :lol: :lol: :lol: I think I've figured out my Yale250 topic

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 1:12 am
by Future Ex-Engineer
dm1683 wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
dm1683 wrote:God even if I get that coveted 75-90k from Chicago I'll still be 120-150k in the hole debt-wise. Maybe I should up my target score to 175. Do you guys think 4.0/172 and 4.0/175 differ much in terms of money at CCN?

The last thing I want is to get 4.0/170 and only get 45k and have to either pay 200k in loans to go to my dream school.
Just go to the holy trinity
4.0/170 doesn't get you harvard I don't think. And since my goal is Chicago biglaw I don't think going to harvard would be very advantageous over Chi.
Ehh, I don't think this is true. If you look at the spreadsheet for H admissions, it looks like 170 was the score floor for high GPA non-URM applicants to get JS1s this year. I think 4.0/170 gets you a JS1, and probably gets you a good shot at being in unless you have absolutely nothing interesting about yourself. I also have a buddy who got in with 171/3.6x this year. Anecdotal I know, but I think 170 really is the magic number if you've got a solid application in other areas.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 1:14 am
by Future Ex-Engineer
Platopus wrote:
lynn.wibi wrote:
I'm scared that this would happen in the actual test. Did PT 65 and, while reviewing, I noticed that almost all of the LR mistakes on the experimental sections are because of extreme carelessness, e.g. read "weaken" as opposed to "strengthen", MBF as opposed to MBT, and so on. Made a mistake in LG diagramming that thankfully cost me only 2 questions--but it could be much worse.

I guess for many of us, mental prep is even more important than drilling at this point. Still trying to figure out the best mental equilibrium to stay 100% focused and sharp throughout the actual test.
Spend the next couple of weeks to figure out your groove. For me, I do best about 2 days after a day off, with a light LG warm up and some real light food. So I'll probably take Friday the 9th to just relax, PT Saturday & review Sunday w/ some drilling. Probably do a light warm up on the morning of the test.

Also keep track of what you eat/drink, caffeine levels, sleep patterns, etc. This all really does matter.
I'm in the same boat. I have hit my best scores when taking on Wednesdays after a two day break, and have had my worst scores on Sundays after only a 1 day break.

As such, I'm planning on taking PT 78 on Friday the 9th and then chilling for the most part over the weekend with a couple of easy LR questions and games

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 6:10 am
by MediocreAtBest
zkyggi wrote:PT 71:

LR1: -2
LG: -1 (Read a could be true as a must be true...)
LR2: -1
RC: -5

174

Really generous curve. I am finding that having RC just kills me. I average -2 or less when RC is before the break, and approach -4 after.
My ideal order is LR, RC, LG, LR. Having RC last sucks.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 6:11 am
by Slippin' Jimmy
Who's ready to wreck the E-test?

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 6:18 am
by dj9i27
Slippin' Jimmy wrote:Who's ready to wreck the E-test?
yo.
the whole no pencil thing is weird plus all I have is my watch and ticket. feel so empty

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 7:30 am
by Mint-Berry_Crunch
dj9i27 wrote:
Slippin' Jimmy wrote:Who's ready to wreck the E-test?
yo.
the whole no pencil thing is weird plus all I have is my watch and ticket. feel so empty
I brought pencils anyway? They give you scratch paper

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 7:34 am
by dj9i27
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:
Slippin' Jimmy wrote:Who's ready to wreck the E-test?
yo.
the whole no pencil thing is weird plus all I have is my watch and ticket. feel so empty
I brought pencils anyway? They give you scratch paper
I didn't, the sheet said "no writing utensil not provided by the lsac" didn't feel like tossing them if I had bad proctors.

I guess I can bum one from someone

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:45 am
by Platopus
dj9i27 wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:
Slippin' Jimmy wrote:Who's ready to wreck the E-test?
yo.
the whole no pencil thing is weird plus all I have is my watch and ticket. feel so empty
I brought pencils anyway? They give you scratch paper
I didn't, the sheet said "no writing utensil not provided by the lsac" didn't feel like tossing them if I had bad proctors.

I guess I can bum one from someone
TCR. Didnt bring pencils either, feels weird as hell

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 1:19 pm
by dm1683
heyduchess wrote:PT 69

RC: -9

Oh, how the mighty have fallen. :oops:
LOL we switched. I got -1 on that section yesterday, and you got -1 on 68's RC that I got -9 on.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 1:30 pm
by Mint-Berry_Crunch
So that digi test was interesting

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 2:14 pm
by Amerision
Mannnnn, I am so frustrated. Took PT 73 today and got a 169. That's three in a row. All three times, I've been really tired, but that's not an excuse. I'm getting so many more wrong in reading comp than I should be and a freaking -4 in LG. This is driving me insane. Just let me stay in the 170s!!