The Official June 2017 Study Group Forum

[34iplaw]

Cold diagnostic 160. Ran out of time in RC and LG. Shooting for 170+.

Is 10 or more points in 6 months reasonable? Any recommendations for best online prep course to help with improving speed?

Lol considering everything I've seen in my short time on TLS, I'd say 10 points in 6 months is pretty reasonable. Heck it'd still be reasonable with a 2 month time frame. I am a newbie of the highest order tho, so take everything I say with a giant tablespoon of salt. Also, most people I've seen here recommend trying self-study to improve yourself first before a prep course.

There is hope then I guess! I thought about the feb test, but baby number three will be here soon and with work... I have bought the powerscore bibles to get started, but running out of time on two sections has kind of freaked me out so now I'm thinking I may need a course.

10 points is def doable, esp. if you lost most of your points in LG.

[blackmamba8]

Wow I hate finals. Can't wait for Christmas break so I can do something a little less painful. Like studying for the LSAT.

I was studying for one of mine this morning and I kept thinking about how I can't wait until finals are over so I can study for the LSAT again. Can't tell if Stockholm syndrome or if I actually enjoy this thing.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Wow I hate finals. Can't wait for Christmas break so I can do something a little less painful. Like studying for the LSAT.

I was studying for one of mine this morning and I kept thinking about how I can't wait until finals are over so I can study for the LSAT again. Can't tell if Stockholm syndrome or if I actually enjoy this thing.

im feeling the same way

[dontsaywhatyoumean]

I'd MUCH rather study for school than the LSAT.

School = cram night before = good grades

LSAT = cram night before = LOL good luck

School is just much less stressful because there's so much more certainty regarding how you'll likely perform. So much of the stuff is just memory work and very basic reasoning.

[chicharon]

***Tentatively**** checking in



I'm a masochist looking for scholly

About damn time

Maybe I should retake too? Y/N?

[Roddy618]

I'd MUCH rather study for school than the LSAT.

School = cram night before = good grades

LSAT = cram night before = LOL good luck

School is just much less stressful because there's so much more certainty regarding how you'll likely perform. So much of the stuff is just memory work and very basic reasoning.

This is so true and depending on the major, there's almost no reasoning to any test you take.

[blackmamba8]

I'd MUCH rather study for school than the LSAT.

School = cram night before = good grades

LSAT = cram night before = LOL good luck

School is just much less stressful because there's so much more certainty regarding how you'll likely perform. So much of the stuff is just memory work and very basic reasoning.

This is so true and depending on the major, there's almost no reasoning to any test you take.

I'm in the cramming stage for finals right now so I'm a little biased lol. I think that's why I like the LSAT more though. It's challenging and you have to put in a ton of work, but when you start doing well you feel proud of yourself. I just have to cram and memorize the night before for most of my exams. Getting an A is nice but I don't really feel accomplished afterwards because it was relatively easy.

[amta]

***Tentatively**** checking in



I'm a masochist looking for scholly

About damn time

Maybe I should retake too? Y/N?

go study for finals.

[Mint-Berry_Crunch]

Took the test a year ago. Didn't reset watch in games. Here I am

How long have you been studying? There's a couple old guard posters in this thread. I've been studying for over a year....starting to think I may be spinning my wheels.

Off and on since like, 2014 but haven't looked at a question since December 16

[Alexandros]

I'd MUCH rather study for school than the LSAT.

School = cram night before = good grades

LSAT = cram night before = LOL good luck

School is just much less stressful because there's so much more certainty regarding how you'll likely perform. So much of the stuff is just memory work and very basic reasoning.

This is so true and depending on the major, there's almost no reasoning to any test you take.

I'm in the cramming stage for finals right now so I'm a little biased lol. I think that's why I like the LSAT more though. It's challenging and you have to put in a ton of work, but when you start doing well you feel proud of yourself. I just have to cram and memorize the night before for most of my exams. Getting an A is nice but I don't really feel accomplished afterwards because it was relatively easy.

I mean I think it really depends on your UG and major. For me, getting a GPA of ~3.7 was a lot more work and stress and sleepless nights than a 170+ was. But, at my UG you can't cram literally the night before and expect to get a decent grade unless you're Mike Ross.

But I'm also in the middle of finals (and sleep deprived and bitter) so probably pretty biased, though I think I felt like that when I was studying for the LSAT too. Idk, kind of confused by how easy good GPAs are perceived to be on here sometimes.

[PrezRand]

Probably going to take this test. I'm taking the February test and hoping for UT's median

[blackmamba8]

I'd MUCH rather study for school than the LSAT.

School = cram night before = good grades

LSAT = cram night before = LOL good luck

School is just much less stressful because there's so much more certainty regarding how you'll likely perform. So much of the stuff is just memory work and very basic reasoning.

This is so true and depending on the major, there's almost no reasoning to any test you take.

I'm in the cramming stage for finals right now so I'm a little biased lol. I think that's why I like the LSAT more though. It's challenging and you have to put in a ton of work, but when you start doing well you feel proud of yourself. I just have to cram and memorize the night before for most of my exams. Getting an A is nice but I don't really feel accomplished afterwards because it was relatively easy.

I mean I think it really depends on your UG and major. For me, getting a GPA of ~3.7 was a lot more work and stress and sleepless nights than a 170+ was. But, at my UG you can't cram literally the night before and expect to get a decent grade unless you're Mike Ross.

But I'm also in the middle of finals (and sleep deprived and bitter) so probably pretty biased, though I think I felt like that when I was studying for the LSAT too. Idk, kind of confused by how easy good GPAs are perceived to be on here sometimes.

Yeah I definitely agree that it depends on your major and UG. I knew going into college that I wanted to go to law school and that I needed as close to a 4.0 as possible, so I went with a pretty easy major. I think the biggest thing that has helped me is that I've had a lot of professors who give out A+'s pretty liberally.

[PresidentIJohnson]

How much are y'all studying right now? I'm hovering around 10-15 hours a week, but I feel like that isn't enough time. Some weeks are less, some are more.

[chicharon]

***Tentatively**** checking in



I'm a masochist looking for scholly

About damn time

Maybe I should retake too? Y/N?

go study for finals.

Doing Torts MCQs as we speak

[somedeadman]

How much are y'all studying right now? I'm hovering around 10-15 hours a week, but I feel like that isn't enough time. Some weeks are less, some are more.

That's pretty good tbh. I'm a fan of doing light studying over a longer period of time.

[Rupert Pupkin]

I'd MUCH rather study for school than the LSAT.

School = cram night before = good grades

LSAT = cram night before = LOL good luck

School is just much less stressful because there's so much more certainty regarding how you'll likely perform. So much of the stuff is just memory work and very basic reasoning.

This is so true and depending on the major, there's almost no reasoning to any test you take.

I'm in the cramming stage for finals right now so I'm a little biased lol. I think that's why I like the LSAT more though. It's challenging and you have to put in a ton of work, but when you start doing well you feel proud of yourself. I just have to cram and memorize the night before for most of my exams. Getting an A is nice but I don't really feel accomplished afterwards because it was relatively easy.

I mean I think it really depends on your UG and major. For me, getting a GPA of ~3.7 was a lot more work and stress and sleepless nights than a 170+ was. But, at my UG you can't cram literally the night before and expect to get a decent grade unless you're Mike Ross.

But I'm also in the middle of finals (and sleep deprived and bitter) so probably pretty biased, though I think I felt like that when I was studying for the LSAT too. Idk, kind of confused by how easy good GPAs are perceived to be on here sometimes.

Same.. Maybe a few intro classes I could Ace a test in UG just from cramming the night before, but not on any upper levels. If i did that i'd be screwed. Really depends on your major

[greatspirit]

As of now my plan is to finish all 3 Powerscore Bibles (have finished RC), do as many prep tests as possible, review said tests and cross-reference RC & LR weaknesses with the relevant section of their respective Powerscore Bibles, review all prep test logic games via 7sage YouTube & cross-reference areas of weakness with relevant section of LG Bible, read as much Economist, WSJ, NY Times as possible.

I'm aiming for a 170 - is the above strategy enough? If not, what other books should I check out/strategies I should consider? I've heard loads of good things about the LSAT Trainer (correct name?) and Manhattan Prep's LR review book - would consider getting those also.

[Rupert Pupkin]

As of now my plan is to finish all 3 Powerscore Bibles (have finished RC), do as many prep tests as possible, review said tests and cross-reference RC & LR weaknesses with the relevant section of their respective Powerscore Bibles, review all prep test logic games via 7sage YouTube & cross-reference areas of weakness with relevant section of LG Bible, read as much Economist, WSJ, NY Times as possible.

I'm aiming for a 170 - is the above strategy enough? If not, what other books should I check out/strategies I should consider? I've heard loads of good things about the LSAT Trainer (correct name?) and Manhattan Prep's LR review book - would consider getting those also.

Sounds like a good stack to me. The books are great to get a foundation, but gains are made through drilling sections and reviewing PTs and problems relentlessly. The Trainer might be good to do before the Bibles if you want. I would hold out on Manhattan until you finish the bibles and feel that you need another approach. Also, def do Manhattan RC over the bible. I actually have the bible one though and I may just go through it to beef up my RC. At the end of the day it cant hurt, but dont want to use most your prep time doing books. Once you have a foundation drilling is key.

[blackmamba8]

One more day and I'm back to the LSAT grind

[acacius]

I've been looking for a schedule that combines 7sage and LSAT Trainer and cannot find one. What are your suggestions? Do I just follow the schedule for LSAT Trainer + 7sage separately or will that be too confusing? (i.e. different topics at the same time?)

[Rupert Pupkin]

I've been looking for a schedule that combines 7sage and LSAT Trainer and cannot find one. What are your suggestions? Do I just follow the schedule for LSAT Trainer + 7sage separately or will that be too confusing? (i.e. different topics at the same time?)

I would do trainer first as an intro and when you finish start 7sage.

[acacius]

I've been looking for a schedule that combines 7sage and LSAT Trainer and cannot find one. What are your suggestions? Do I just follow the schedule for LSAT Trainer + 7sage separately or will that be too confusing? (i.e. different topics at the same time?)

I would do trainer first as an intro and when you finish start 7sage.

Thanks for the quick response, I actually have the Cambridge drilling packets (Extreme Endurance Edition PDFs), so how would you incorporate that?

[blackmamba8]

I've been looking for a schedule that combines 7sage and LSAT Trainer and cannot find one. What are your suggestions? Do I just follow the schedule for LSAT Trainer + 7sage separately or will that be too confusing? (i.e. different topics at the same time?)

I would do trainer first as an intro and when you finish start 7sage.

Thanks for the quick response, I actually have the Cambridge drilling packets (Extreme Endurance Edition PDFs), so how would you incorporate that?

Just curious, what's the extreme endurance edition?

[Rupert Pupkin]

I've been looking for a schedule that combines 7sage and LSAT Trainer and cannot find one. What are your suggestions? Do I just follow the schedule for LSAT Trainer + 7sage separately or will that be too confusing? (i.e. different topics at the same time?)

I would do trainer first as an intro and when you finish start 7sage.

Thanks for the quick response, I actually have the Cambridge drilling packets (Extreme Endurance Edition PDFs), so how would you incorporate that?

Just curious, what's the extreme endurance edition?

Man you are lucky.. I wish I could get my hands on the Cambridge Drilling packets. I mean you would start the Cambridge packets when you are ready to drill by type. I would maybe blow through the Trainer pretty quickly and then do 7sage with drilling packets? I am not entirely sure the interface and plan of 7sage because I haven't had experience with 7sage courses. Just the LG videos & explanations

[blackmamba8]

Waiting for my professors to finalize our grades is giving me bad flashbacks to waiting for September scores. I think I'm going to reread the Manhattan LR book over the next few days and then start drilling the Cambridge packets.