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 Post subject: Re: June 2012 Study Group / Study Partner Thread
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Is anyone else giving Velocity LSAT a go for June? I have been using a combination of Velocity and Manhattan LSAT for Logical Reason and I am very satisfied. Just thought I would ask.


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Hello all...

Just registered for June LSAT yesterday. Shooting for 180 - isn't everyone - but (somewhat) more realistically 175+.

Just ordered LR & LG Bibles and a ton of practice tests online yesterday.

So far LG is my best section (-0-1) which concerns me since that's usually the one that people find it easiest to make dramatic improvements. Still planning to practice it though so I have a little cushion time-wise - just barely finished it on PT. RC is next and LR is my worst, which is a bummer since it counts for two sections.


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Hi all! I'm taking the LSAT in June and looking for an online partner. I've already put in about 100 hours of studying and my PT average is around 174. I'm looking for someone who is scoring 170+ who wants to do detailed analysis of missed questions. We would provide each other with an objective view on missed questions in order to iron out small mistakes and hopefully avoid the classic score drop on test day. PM me if you're interested!


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 Post subject: Re: June 2012 Study Group / Study Partner Thread
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Hey everybody,

Aiming for a 170. First blind shot was 157, and a couple weeks ago I hit 167 as a high. However, I fell to 160 for my last one. LG are a problem for me.

Unfortunately I work full time 40-60 hours a week, but I'm managing an hour every morning and at least one day every weekend.

Anybody else working and studying as well? I'd be glad to have a study partner.


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masticore99 wrote:
Hey everybody,

Aiming for a 170. First blind shot was 157, and a couple weeks ago I hit 167 as a high. However, I fell to 160 for my last one. LG are a problem for me.

Unfortunately I work full time 40-60 hours a week, but I'm managing an hour every morning and at least one day every weekend.

Anybody else working and studying as well? I'd be glad to have a study partner.


I'm in the same situation. I have yet to really start studying yet. Aiming for a 180...working 40+ with unpredictable travel. I'm definitely going to try to start studying before work in the morning. The only thing I'm worried about is having to travel (love to travel but not conducive to studying).


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:08 pm 
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First LSAT I studied sections by thirds. First month LG, second month LR, third month RC, fourth month just PTs.


I think this ultimately gave me a solid understanding, but hurt my score as I started to neglect my LG and LR towards the end.

This time I'm going to take four months, but study everything throughout. One day LG, next day LR, next day RC, and then in the last month or two the same only add PT at the end.


Hopefully this tightens the scores. There was no excuse for missing as many games as I missed other than getting lazy with my studies.


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masticore99 wrote:
Hey everybody,

Aiming for a 170. First blind shot was 157, and a couple weeks ago I hit 167 as a high. However, I fell to 160 for my last one. LG are a problem for me.

Unfortunately I work full time 40-60 hours a week, but I'm managing an hour every morning and at least one day every weekend.

Anybody else working and studying as well? I'd be glad to have a study partner.


I'm in the same situation. I have yet to really start studying yet. Aiming for a 180...working 40+ with unpredictable travel. I'm definitely going to try to start studying before work in the morning. The only thing I'm worried about is having to travel (love to travel but not conducive to studying).


If you're travelling for business, I think you'd have a hotel reasonably close to work? You wont have to deal with a commute and should probably have gym access. I think it may be better than being at home...


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 Post subject: Re: June 2012 Study Group / Study Partner Thread
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masticore99 wrote:
T-Account wrote:
masticore99 wrote:
Hey everybody,

Aiming for a 170. First blind shot was 157, and a couple weeks ago I hit 167 as a high. However, I fell to 160 for my last one. LG are a problem for me.

Unfortunately I work full time 40-60 hours a week, but I'm managing an hour every morning and at least one day every weekend.

Anybody else working and studying as well? I'd be glad to have a study partner.


I'm in the same situation. I have yet to really start studying yet. Aiming for a 180...working 40+ with unpredictable travel. I'm definitely going to try to start studying before work in the morning. The only thing I'm worried about is having to travel (love to travel but not conducive to studying).


If you're travelling for business, I think you'd have a hotel reasonably close to work? You wont have to deal with a commute and should probably have gym access. I think it may be better than being at home...


Yeah, that's what I thought initially but days tend to be longer when traveling and actually traveling is draining in and of itself. I'm going to have to figure something out and just adapt but finding something that works for me is taking longer than I thought. I'm planning on getting more serious about studying in the new year. Starting today, actually.


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 Post subject: Re: June 2012 Study Group / Study Partner Thread
PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:34 pm 
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Just registered for the June 2012 LSAT! PM if you want someone to study with/keep motivated. Good Luck!


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 Post subject: Re: June 2012 Study Group / Study Partner Thread
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I'm in! This will be my 3rd LSAT so I have used up most of the practice tests as well as the bibles. I have LG where I want it so my focus will be RC and LR. I think I will begin prep after new years and really focus on reviewing each and every question, something I failed to do before.

I'm shooting for a 170, with T-6 aspirations. As a AA male with a mediocre GPA I need every point I can get.

Goodluck to everyone!


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 Post subject: Re: June 2012 Study Group / Study Partner Thread
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rbkl wrote:
First time poster here :)

Anyways, June 2012 tester here. 4.0 / 4.0 GPA (higher with LSDAS calculation) at a top 10 undergraduate business program.

I am looking for 2-3 people to form a serious study group. I am aiming for a 180 personally, but definitely looking for anyone that is just as motivated to score above a 170. Shoot me a pm!


Still looking!


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What's up guys! I'm also studying for June 2012 and I just started taking the Princeton Review intensive course. My cold was 163 and my goal is a 175. I wanted to get this course out of the way to get my feet wet and then I was going to scour the bibles and then finally finish with the PTs.


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 Post subject: Re: June 2012 Study Group / Study Partner Thread
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Longtime lurker checking in!

I graduated in 2011 with a 3.67 from a non-HYP Ivy. Since July I've been working as a paralegal at a mid-sized corporate law firm in the Silicon Valley. Despite work, I feel rested, motivated, and am willing to put in some serious time on the weekends/weekday nights. Shooting for 175+.

LSAT Background
I originally planned to take the 2009 October LSAT but backed out due to classes, living situation, and uncertainty of my future goals. Nonetheless, I studied for a month. My first diagnostic was a 165 and my highest was a 173. Fairly certain that I'll have to start from the beginning, however, since I don't remember much about the LSAT. As for materials, I still have the LG bibles and one of the 10 real LSAT test books.

Prep Ideas
After reading through this forum and other resources the past few days, I'm also leaning towards using one of the LSAT Blog's Study Schedules (probably the 6 month or 5 month version), or doing some independent studying and then taking a testmasters.net course. I live near one of the live course locations as well, but felt that studying online may be more beneficial since I can go at my own pace. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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I would love to be part of a group, chat, or any other forms of support and motivation. If anyone is near Palo Alto/Mountain View in California, maybe we can even meet up in person.


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checking in!

junior at an unranked undergrad. 3.9+ gpa so a 170+ would be sweet haha. starting LG bible today, doing manhattan rc and logic reasoning bible after.


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 Post subject: Re: June 2012 Study Group / Study Partner Thread
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NowIsTheTime wrote:
Longtime lurker checking in!

I graduated in 2011 with a 3.67 from a non-HYP Ivy. Since July I've been working as a paralegal at a mid-sized corporate law firm in the Silicon Valley. Despite work, I feel rested, motivated, and am willing to put in some serious time on the weekends/weekday nights. Shooting for 175+.

LSAT Background
I originally planned to take the 2009 October LSAT but backed out due to classes, living situation, and uncertainty of my future goals. Nonetheless, I studied for a month. My first diagnostic was a 165 and my highest was a 173. Fairly certain that I'll have to start from the beginning, however, since I don't remember much about the LSAT. As for materials, I still have the LG bibles and one of the 10 real LSAT test books.

Prep Ideas
After reading through this forum and other resources the past few days, I'm also leaning towards using one of the LSAT Blog's Study Schedules (probably the 6 month or 5 month version), or doing some independent studying and then taking a testmasters.net course. I live near one of the live course locations as well, but felt that studying online may be more beneficial since I can go at my own pace. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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I would love to be part of a group, chat, or any other forms of support and motivation. If anyone is near Palo Alto/Mountain View in California, maybe we can even meet up in person.


I'm trying to make a similar decision to you at the moment - I recently sat for the December 2011 LSAT, but decided to cancel my score, after feeling as though I probably didn't break 170. I used the LSAT Blog 4-month study schedule, however, I did do it on an increased timeline, trying to do two weeks in one week, making me do multiple days in one day, etc. If you get it, do not do that, the LSAT is definitely meant to be learned over time, not crammed in! Anyways, I am also trying to decide if I want to take the Testmasters course because I have heard amazing things about it, and I am hoping to go from high 160s into the upper 170s. My suggestion would be, to take the next 6 weeks or so, since the courses do not start until at least mid-late February at the very earliest anyways, and see how you are doing on your own. I had no trouble focusing on my own, but for some reason, I am just not applying the material I have read about in the book, so I feel like a class might assist me with methods with the application, but I only learned that after studying for a few months. Also, I'd suggest considering your schedule and make sure you have the time to invest in a class. They are expensive and they take a lot of time beyond the classroom, so if you think your job might interfere with the schedule frequently, it may not be the best option.

Just my .02. :)


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Count me in for this too... Graduated last may with a 3.9 double major in economic development and anthropology, and have spent the last few months working on the GRE and want to take the LSAT in June. Aiming for a 175+, and hoping to get into HYS. I have a very, very flexible job so I will be studying for the LSAT at least 20 hours/week, and ideally PTing on the weekends. I haven't yet taken a PT because I don't see the point of taking one cold. Anyway I've always been bad at standardized testing, but worked my way from a 70% score on the GRE to 95%+, so I'm confident that with consistent practice I can get my score to where I need it to be. Also moving to Guatemala on June 2nd to work for an international human rights organization, so I'll only have one shot at the LSAT!

This thread has my head spinning... After taking a PR GRE course (and wasting $700), I'm definitely self studying for the LSAT but I have no idea how to structure my study plan.

I've started by reading the LR bible (which seems to be my first mistake--everyone else is reading LG first?), about 1-2 chapters a day going very slowly and making sure I understand absolutely everything and memorizing all the rules and question characteristics. I was planning on starting the LG bible directly after, and then taking my first diag and then working on my weaknesses. This seems like it may be a little unstructured though, so I'm considering shelling out a few bucks for the day by day LSATblog 5 month plan. Anyone else using this? I'm concerned that it doesn't have enough PTs, I'm hoping to do at least 40 of them.

Also, how does everyone feel about using LSAT problems for drilling? Drilling seems like a great way to practice weaknesses, but it also taints future PTs. I'm considering using the first 20 or so PTs for drills, and using the most recent 20 exclusively for PTs in April/May.


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New to the boards but not to the LSAT. I'm taking it in June for the second time. I took the October test and was disappointed with my 161, considering I had been PTing consistently at or above 165. Looking to overcompensate for that disappointment.

I'm two years out of undergrad and have been teaching elementary school during that time. Working full time has been a grind and can make studying difficult, but I'm hoping to partner up with somebody in a similar situation and is self-studying.

I haven't taken a look at the study plans on the board but I will be looking into that later tonight, but I am open to suggestions. Let me know if you'd like to pair or group together.


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NowIsTheTime wrote:
Longtime lurker checking in!

I graduated in 2011 with a 3.67 from a non-HYP Ivy. Since July I've been working as a paralegal at a mid-sized corporate law firm in the Silicon Valley. Despite work, I feel rested, motivated, and am willing to put in some serious time on the weekends/weekday nights. Shooting for 175+.

LSAT Background
I originally planned to take the 2009 October LSAT but backed out due to classes, living situation, and uncertainty of my future goals. Nonetheless, I studied for a month. My first diagnostic was a 165 and my highest was a 173. Fairly certain that I'll have to start from the beginning, however, since I don't remember much about the LSAT. As for materials, I still have the LG bibles and one of the 10 real LSAT test books.

Prep Ideas
After reading through this forum and other resources the past few days, I'm also leaning towards using one of the LSAT Blog's Study Schedules (probably the 6 month or 5 month version), or doing some independent studying and then taking a testmasters.net course. I live near one of the live course locations as well, but felt that studying online may be more beneficial since I can go at my own pace. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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I would love to be part of a group, chat, or any other forms of support and motivation. If anyone is near Palo Alto/Mountain View in California, maybe we can even meet up in person.



I don't know how much of the LSAT actually "leaves you." I thought that I would have to start all over again too, I took a diagnostic at time in a library and scored a 168, which is two points higher than what I received on my LSAT and a point from what I was averaging doing PTs.

I think that the consistency of it has stuck. Now its about eliminating the questions you routinely get wrong. Look back at your actual LSAT. I was shocked to see how many LG problems I got wrong, while PTing I missed a question only rarely. If I can just eliminate that problem, I'm in such a better position school-wise that it doesn't make sense not to retake.


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man_utd_4l wrote:
Is anyone else giving Velocity LSAT a go for June? I have been using a combination of Velocity and Manhattan LSAT for Logical Reason and I am very satisfied. Just thought I would ask.


Using Velocity Comprehensive and Cambridge Ultimate Sets. I feel like I definitely have enough material, now about that motivation being 22 weeks out lol.


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man_utd_4l wrote:
Is anyone else giving Velocity LSAT a go for June? I have been using a combination of Velocity and Manhattan LSAT for Logical Reason and I am very satisfied. Just thought I would ask.


just signed up for it.. waiting on the materials still.

the videos seem great and i love his method of teaching - it's easy to understand and it seems like it sticks.

i have gone over the powerscore materials and have the manhattan lr,lg, and rc books as well. my plan is to complete all of velocity's material and then go over the manhattan guides to see if i can learn anything else to combine with velocity and the previous powerscore stuff i have learned and then just PT endlessly


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SA1928 wrote:

I'm trying to make a similar decision to you at the moment - I recently sat for the December 2011 LSAT, but decided to cancel my score, after feeling as though I probably didn't break 170. I used the LSAT Blog 4-month study schedule, however, I did do it on an increased timeline, trying to do two weeks in one week, making me do multiple days in one day, etc. If you get it, do not do that, the LSAT is definitely meant to be learned over time, not crammed in! Anyways, I am also trying to decide if I want to take the Testmasters course because I have heard amazing things about it, and I am hoping to go from high 160s into the upper 170s. My suggestion would be, to take the next 6 weeks or so, since the courses do not start until at least mid-late February at the very earliest anyways, and see how you are doing on your own. I had no trouble focusing on my own, but for some reason, I am just not applying the material I have read about in the book, so I feel like a class might assist me with methods with the application, but I only learned that after studying for a few months. Also, I'd suggest considering your schedule and make sure you have the time to invest in a class. They are expensive and they take a lot of time beyond the classroom, so if you think your job might interfere with the schedule frequently, it may not be the best option.

Just my .02. :)


Yeah, our cases seem extremely similar :) I also have trouble applying the methods from the books and that is definitely something that I would like to improve on, especially in the LG section where I've consistently had time issues. I'm not too sure if a live class is a possibility for me since I work full time (and hours can be long during heavy caseloads), but I definitely am somebody who studies better in a class setting so I may give it a shot.

Going off of what Gail said my current plans are to spend the next week or so identifying my weaknesses and begin focusing on them directly. In an ideal world I would be consistently scoring mid 170s before April, and spend the rest of the time taking practice tests/taking a class to maintain and improve my skills.

Good luck to you all :!:


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Has anybody started putting serious time in? I'm sure some have, but I'm just wondering. It doesn't look like anybody has paired up for a study partner though...

As far as I'm concerned, I'm debating whether or not to pull the trigger on the Manhattan books from Amazon for around 70 bucks. I'll probably hold off because I have all the Bibles but I only partially completed them. I could finish those up and I have a bunch of practice tests I could get on too.

I think my biggest weakness is timing and reading comprehension. Does anybody have any particular recommendations for those areas?


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ArizonaSecrets wrote:
Has anybody started putting serious time in? I'm sure some have, but I'm just wondering. It doesn't look like anybody has paired up for a study partner though...

As far as I'm concerned, I'm debating whether or not to pull the trigger on the Manhattan books from Amazon for around 70 bucks. I'll probably hold off because I have all the Bibles but I only partially completed them. I could finish those up and I have a bunch of practice tests I could get on too.

I think my biggest weakness is timing and reading comprehension. Does anybody have any particular recommendations for those areas?



I would at the very least pull the trigger and order the Manhattan Reading Comprehension Guide. The consensus on TLS seems to be that it blows the PowerScore Reading Comprehension Bible out of the water. I have used both and much prefer the Manhattan Reading Comprehension Guide. That being said, the LSAT (especially the Reading Comprehension section) is all about finding what methods work best for you. I would also make sure you have some sort of Reading Comprehension "strategy" before you start burning through your practice tests too fast.

A personal aside, I have used all three of the PowerScore books and all three of the Manhattan LSAT books and have incorporated methods from each of them into my strategy/methods.


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In on this, just got my December LSAT score and not very happy with it.

I got a 172, but with my abysmal GPA (2.7) I want to hit at least a 177 to have a realistic shot at the lower T14. Hopefully my URM status will help. Also, I plan on applying ED to NYU on the first day they let you and just pray they take pity on me lol.


Lets do this.


FYI, you CANNOT cram for this test. I studied for about 2 weeks for the december one, I plan to study for at least 2 months for June.


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man_utd_4l wrote:


I would at the very least pull the trigger and order the Manhattan Reading Comprehension Guide. The consensus on TLS seems to be that it blows the PowerScore Reading Comprehension Bible out of the water. I have used both and much prefer the Manhattan Reading Comprehension Guide. That being said, the LSAT (especially the Reading Comprehension section) is all about finding what methods work best for you. I would also make sure you have some sort of Reading Comprehension "strategy" before you start burning through your practice tests too fast.

A personal aside, I have used all three of the PowerScore books and all three of the Manhattan LSAT books and have incorporated methods from each of them into my strategy/methods.


Thanks for the heads up on the Manhattan stuff. I will likely come around and pull the trigger on the pack. I feel like I've probably accumulated a good amount of rust since October. I was wondering if study groups on the forums (that's a thing, right?) typically use Manhattan? I believe I've heard that before but then again my memory could be off.

I'd like to ask anybody else too if they have heard or read of anything that would aid in time management in particular. I'd love to hear of everyone's own methods of marking up a RC passage, but I feel as if that's more likely to vary than what could be tested and trusted time management techniques.

SublimeStyle wrote:
In on this, just got my December LSAT score and not very happy with it.

I got a 172, but with my abysmal GPA (2.7) I want to hit at least a 177 to have a realistic shot at the lower T14. Hopefully my URM status will help. Also, I plan on applying ED to NYU on the first day they let you and just pray they take pity on me lol.


Best of luck to you this time around. Considering you've done that well previously, I'm sure that if you put in the time you'll reach your goals. Good luck!


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