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UTaylor526 wrote:How do these products compare to simple Microsoft Word?

More features. Designed nearly specifically for outlining, taking notes, so geared towards doing so. Indicative fact: Even Microsoft created a note-taking software, One-Note.

sophie316 wrote:I DLed both and after playing around for a bit I found CP easier to use. i also like that you can sync to do lists with ical(maybe you can do this on OO too I don't know)...it feels like a notebook, plus you can convert your notebooks to HTML and email it to yourself so you can view it anywhere, even on a non mac.

Garinold wrote:

sophie316 wrote:I DLed both and after playing around for a bit I found CP easier to use. i also like that you can sync to do lists with ical(maybe you can do this on OO too I don't know)...it feels like a notebook, plus you can convert your notebooks to HTML and email it to yourself so you can view it anywhere, even on a non mac.

This is interesting. So you can build an outline over the course of an entire semester, and when finals come around email it to yourself in HTML format, so you can use it on the PC side in case your school uses Widows only exam software.

Garinold wrote:For those of you that use, or have used Omni Outliner, did you make use of the recording feature to record the content of a classroom discussion? Did you make use of it to record yourself reading aloud a passage from your notes or supplement?

swheat wrote:Order your MBP yet DA? Mine is shipping tomorrow

I'm geeked but now grappling with the realization that Apple has just hit me with a 1400$ CC charge

What do you use to organize and track your notes? An outliner, organizer, notebook?

All of the above? Stop looking. Here’s my favorite list of Mac notebooks, from high end to low end and in between.

Organizing, note taking, outlining are all personal ventures on the Mac. It is, after all, the most personal of personal computers.

Most of us have different styles of taking in information, tracking notes, planning tasks for projects, and organizing things.

No single Mac utility, regardless of how good it is, will capture the fancy of all of us.

My list covers those notebooks, notetakers, outliners, trackers, and organizers that are worthy of consideration.

Notebook
In the middle range is Circus Ponies’ fabulous Notebook. Think of it as a digital legal pad that remembers everything forever.

Email, photos, graphics, documents, journal notes, images, all can be stored in Notebook.


The good news is that it stores and organizes almost everything.

The bad news is you have to learn how it does what it does to get it to do it.

Notetaker
AquaMinds is in tune with Mac users, as is Notetaker. It’s considered a personal note and idea organizer but does much more.

The learning curve is smooth and straightforward. Start with lists, outlines, notes, then move to collections of everything.

The similarities between Notebook and Notetaker are striking, so the spiral bound notebook metaphor is popular.

NoteShare
Sharing notes costs more money, and the Notetaker people have a place to collect. More expensive also means does more.

In this case, NoteShare comes off as more of a collaborative version of Notetaker. Others can share one of your notebooks from their Macs.

More money usually means more complexity. Not so with The Omni Group

OmniOutliner
For less than Notebook, OmniOutliner is similar in function, if not form. Remember outlines from school? That’s OmniOutliner.

Headings, subpoints, sub-subpoints are the logical starting point, but inside each you can cram in whatever you want.

Tasks, tracking projects, pop-up lists, notes, and more? More complexity can cost more. OmniOutliner Professional adds sections, styles, a clipping service, audio recording, and templates.

Process 2
Most of us take care of our details—notes, lists, outlines, and other information—using some sort of process we’ve developed through the years.

Jumsoft’s Process expands on the familiar hierarchical layout of most note and outliner applications with an attractive all-in-one interface.

Whatever you can grab or link can be attached to Process, and rearranged on a whim. PDFs, links, email, documents, movies, music, photos.

There’s even a built in calendar and the all-important Action menu, plus iCal sync. Process is for Tiger and takes advantage of OS X’s built-in CoreData to manage all your data.

Memoir
At the lower end are a host of notetaker, outliner, notebook applications that give less, cost less, but come with a lower learning curve.

Vortimac’s Memoir has a simple interface that lets you organize the application the way you organize yourself.

Mori
Hog Bay Software’s popular Notebook is no more, but a more flexible Mori has taken place as a superb tool with many faces.

You get to determine how you want Mori to organize; simple, complex, nested categories as folders, nested, nested, more nested.

More is easy, very easy to get started, and can grow to take on more complex requirements as your needs and abilities grow.

TopXNotes
Billing itself as a note pad, Tropical Software’s TopXNotes takes a slightly different approach to layout and organization, but with good results.

The outline metaphor is still in TopXNotes, but the look and feel is different, with more emphasis on notes and lists, rather than outlining.

Notae
The similarities among apps on my list appears to be text entry, an outline view, and flexibility. CodePoetry’s Notae is different and focuses on notetaking, as in word processing with styles and features.


More attention is paid to editing functions, importing and exporting text for other applications.

If notetaking is number one, Notae deserves a look.

xPad
Working on documents is important, otherwise, why are so many notes and documents organizers available? And why are they so good?

xPad is inexpensive as notetakers go, but combines more of the features of Apple’s own TextEdit and Stickies, with other document features, and organizing tools.

The auto save feature is particularly handy as is the export of documents to your iPod. Now all we need is a bigger screen on the iPod.

Summary
No single application gets the nod as Best of Breed, because all do what they do very well, and, since your mileage may vary, and your organizing and notes requirements vary, I’ll narrow the list to my three favorites.

Tops in function and complexity is Circus Ponies’ Notebook. The familiar legal pad look and standard outline approach is hard to beat. So is the list of features. So is the learning curve.

At the low end is the gem of the group, Hog Bay Software’s Mori. Mac applications should be elegant and intuitive and not clutter your mind with the “how do I do this?” syndrome.

Mori is flexible, powerful, but very easy to get going, and quickly adapts to your way of organizing.

Up and coming and right in the middle of the pack is Process 2. Extensive feature list, easy learning curve, and Mac-like way of handling information.

You can’t go wrong with any on the list, you may not do better, you will not have more fun trying to track your notes, outline your projects, and manage all you touch each day.

VictoryFord wrote:i think im going to vmware onenote. pros/cons?

swheat wrote:Sweet program Helmholtz

Is the $60 office ultimate + crossover worthwhile? I already have office 2003 on xp and office 2004 on leopard.

EDIT: I checked the crossover site...apparently you do lose some functionality with programs like OneNote
http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibilit ... search=app

Helmholtz wrote:

VictoryFord wrote:i think im going to vmware onenote. pros/cons?

I just downloaded an app called Crossover that lets you run native Windows programs like OneNote on Mac without having to install windows. The Windows applications just run on OSX pretty seamlessly. Voila:
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JPeavy44 wrote:

Helmholtz wrote:

VictoryFord wrote:i think im going to vmware onenote. pros/cons?

I just downloaded an app called Crossover that lets you run native Windows programs like OneNote on Mac without having to install windows. The Windows applications just run on OSX pretty seamlessly. Voila:
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Are you using standard or pro? Does it run slower compared to native mac apps?

swheat wrote:I think he was asking about the Standard or Pro version of Crossover

Standard is 39 Pro is 69$ i believe