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Everyone, as I said several pages ago, you should stop responding to this thread. You're going to be as successful converting OP from unreasonable logic to reasonable logic as you would be converting Reagan Republicans into communists. You're wasting your time. OP is daft.
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Well to be truthful, Regan republicans are probably closer to communism than to the isolationist, racist wing of the Republican party currently in control.RedPurpleBlue wrote:Everyone, as I said several pages ago, you should stop responding to this thread. You're going to be as successful converting OP from unreasonable logic to reasonable logic as you would be converting Reagan Republicans into communists. You're wasting your time. OP is daft.
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Go away cupcake. I see you don't like this topic, you don't have to participate in it. Just tell us you're an NU student.RedPurpleBlue wrote:Everyone, as I said several pages ago, you should stop responding to this thread. You're going to be as successful converting OP from unreasonable logic to reasonable logic as you would be converting Reagan Republicans into communists. You're wasting your time. OP is daft.
But others will say that if they screw their undergrad GPA, they will find redemption in higher LSAT score. I can understand both argument but as it stands law school value LSAT more than GPA regardless of your undergraduate major.Big Dog wrote:fwiw: for the sake of diversity, emphasis on GPA is much more important, i.e., revers splitter. There are plenty of diverse students pulling down A's in 'Studies' majors at colleges with high admissions rates.Yes they make one or two exceptions http://northwestern.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/1617 2 admitted applicants with 173 LSAT and 2.7 GPA
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Well more good news are coming to everyone. JB Pritzker goes and donate $100 million to NU to help students in need and asks to be elected a governor for Illinois but NU goes on tuition increase. A staggering 61k a year for a JD. Some institutions are crazy beyond any means.
Can you object ? Class of 2020
Dean Rodriquez how are you helping diversity with tuition increase.
http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissi ... d/tuition/According to NU's website JD tuition for 2017-2018 is going to be $61,784. Seems like a steep increase, especially with Pritzker gift and the commitment to make law school more affordable
Can you object ? Class of 2020
Dean Rodriquez how are you helping diversity with tuition increase.
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Cutting edge reporting. It's a good thing you didn't get in, or you'd have to deal with paying the same tuition as pretty much every other private school student in the country.Bulla wrote:Good news everyone. JB Pritzker goes and donate $100 million to NU to help students in need and asks to be elected a governor for Illinois but NU goes on tuition increase. A staggering 61k a year for a JD. Some institutions are crazy beyond any means.
http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissi ... d/tuition/According to NU's website JD tuition for 2017-2018 is going to be $61,784. Seems like a steep increase, especially with Pritzker gift and the commitment to make law school more affordable
Can you object ? Class of 2020
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My bf is in and he doesn't like it much. He can't wait to graduate. Aside from this lets call it elite school for the elite. If you can afford it, you're in, if not bye bye. Quality education is not for everyone. Please spare me the excuse. Mommy and Daddy must be paying those tuition for you ?cavalier1138 wrote:Cutting edge reporting. It's a good thing you didn't get in, or you'd have to deal with paying the same tuition as pretty much every other private school student in the country.Bulla wrote:Good news everyone. JB Pritzker goes and donate $100 million to NU to help students in need and asks to be elected a governor for Illinois but NU goes on tuition increase. A staggering 61k a year for a JD. Some institutions are crazy beyond any means.
http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissi ... d/tuition/According to NU's website JD tuition for 2017-2018 is going to be $61,784. Seems like a steep increase, especially with Pritzker gift and the commitment to make law school more affordable
Can you object ? Class of 2020
Do you think a JD is worth that much regardless of where you get it from ? You still pass the bar just like everyone else from different law schools and you meet different people from different backgrounds in the court on daily basis.
You don't get $100 million donation and decide to raise tuition on students. What is the justification ?
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I wonder if OP's boyfriend goes to Northwestern
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Mods, can you please change the thread title to: White Girl with Mediocre LSAT Score is Mad BC Her Boyfriend Got into Northwestern and She Didn't
Because it would save us all a lot of time.
Because it would save us all a lot of time.
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op can we get a verdict on some other schools? how're you feeling about the rest of the T14 on the diversity front?
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You're a Pelosi fan!blueapple wrote:I wonder if OP's boyfriend goes to Northwestern
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idgiBulla wrote:You're a Pelosi fan!blueapple wrote:I wonder if OP's boyfriend goes to Northwestern
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It seems to me the gift is being given out in the form of large scholarships. I will be paying a very small fraction of that increased tuition. Maybe wait to see how much people get in scholarships before shaming a school for increasing tuition. Also I'm pretty sure most if not all the top law schools also raise their tuition nearly every year. NU still isn't as expensive as NYU and you don't have as high of a COL. Stop making this about NU and maybe people will quit thinking you're bitter about not getting in. Tuition increases suck but all schools do it. So yea NU increasing tuition is bad. But stop making it about one school when they all do it. I don't think there's a way to know yet but I'm guessing the amount of money handed out in the form of scholarships will be higher this year which will make law school more affordable for people like me. If I'm wrong and they gave out less money this year then yes be angry with NU but otherwise stop picking on them.Bulla wrote:Good news everyone. JB Pritzker goes and donate $100 million to NU to help students in need and asks to be elected a governor for Illinois but NU goes on tuition increase. A staggering 61k a year for a JD. Some institutions are crazy beyond any means.
http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissi ... d/tuition/According to NU's website JD tuition for 2017-2018 is going to be $61,784. Seems like a steep increase, especially with Pritzker gift and the commitment to make law school more affordable
Can you object ? Class of 2020
Fwiw I would not be attending had I not received a massive scholarship because mommy and daddy aren't paying for me.
And please stop equating your bfs opinion to a general consensus. Maybe he hates it there. So what? I'm sure people hate your law school too. I have talked to a lot of people who thing NU is great. Anecdotal evidence does not help you. This is the same as that congressman who brought a snowball in to prove global warming is a hoax. (Idc whether you believe in climate change or not as long as we agree that is a stupid way to prove anything)
Also all JDs are not created equal. The school you go to matters for employment prospects. Median at Cooley does not equal median at Harvard. And you may meet people from different backgrounds all the time but in biglaw most of those people will have gone to one of those "elite" schools you seem to hate so much.
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Maybe? It's hard to tell.blueapple wrote:I wonder if OP's boyfriend goes to Northwestern
This actually might qualify as the most idiotic post you've made. You cannot be against the government allowing students to take out the full price of attendance in loans and bitch about how schools are only letting people in who can afford it. But in order:Bulla wrote:My bf is in and he doesn't like it much. He can't wait to graduate. Aside from this lets call it elite school for the elite. If you can afford it, you're in, if not bye bye. Quality education is not for everyone. Please spare me the excuse. Mommy and Daddy must be paying those tuition for you ?
Do you think a JD is worth that much regardless of where you get it from ? You still pass the bar just like everyone else from different law schools and you meet different people from different backgrounds in the court on daily basis.
1. I have a decent scholarship and am financing the rest of my education with loans/earnings. Not that it was any of your business in the first place, but since you're so fucking delusional that you think everyone at decent schools is rich, I figured I should break the news to you: you're an idiot.
2. No, I don't think a JD should cost this much, but that's what happens when you don't regulate education costs.
3. Yes, everyone passes the bar. You must be some kind of genius to know these things.
4. No, not every JD is created equal. A JD from a top school opens doors that a JD from a school like Loyola doesn't.
5. This has absolutely nothing to do with diversity, as has been pointed out again and again and again and again. The financial barriers to actually attending law school are pretty meaningless for students from different backgrounds thanks to the loan system. The barriers to entry have far more to do with disparities in educational opportunities and the financial barriers to preparing for the LSAT (although those are less of a hurdle if you don't have to buy a prep course).
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I second this.emkay625 wrote:Mods, can you please change the thread title to: White Girl with Mediocre LSAT Score is Mad BC Her Boyfriend Got into Northwestern and She Didn't
Because it would save us all a lot of time.
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You use the $100 million for scholarships for students who don't have any money, while still charging for students that do.Bulla wrote:You don't get $100 million donation and decide to raise tuition on students. What is the justification ?
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This.A. Nony Mouse wrote:You use the $100 million for scholarships for students who don't have any money, while still charging for students that do.Bulla wrote:You don't get $100 million donation and decide to raise tuition on students. What is the justification ?
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So we're ok with the constant tuition increase for a JD ? Just because you can do it doesn't make it right and the norm.
Do we have any evidence which backs this up ? May be a breakdown of class of 2020A. Nony Mouse wrote:You use the $100 million for scholarships for students who don't have any money, while still charging for students that do.Bulla wrote:You don't get $100 million donation and decide to raise tuition on students. What is the justification ?
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Do you have any evidence to the contrary?Bulla wrote:So we're ok with the constant tuition increase for a JD ? Just because you can do it doesn't make it right and the norm.
Do we have any evidence which backs this up ? May be a breakdown of class of 2020A. Nony Mouse wrote:You use the $100 million for scholarships for students who don't have any money, while still charging for students that do.Bulla wrote:You don't get $100 million donation and decide to raise tuition on students. What is the justification ?
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I don't think anyone said we were okay with increases. You singled out NU for this though because of some seemingly personal vendetta. And as for the breakdown I don't think that is available yet. But since 99% of your arguments are based on anecdotal evidence, I received a massive scholarship therefore they are handing out huge sums of money. (This is how you back up an argument with shoddy evidence right? Sorry I'm not used to making terrible arguments.)Bulla wrote:So we're ok with the constant tuition increase for a JD ? Just because you can do it doesn't make it right and the norm.
Do we have any evidence which backs this up ? May be a breakdown of class of 2020A. Nony Mouse wrote:You use the $100 million for scholarships for students who don't have any money, while still charging for students that do.Bulla wrote:You don't get $100 million donation and decide to raise tuition on students. What is the justification ?
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Eh ? V for VendettaJclubb wrote:I don't think anyone said we were okay with increases. You singled out NU for this though because of some seemingly personal vendetta. And as for the breakdown I don't think that is available yet. But since 99% of your arguments are based on anecdotal evidence, I received a massive scholarship therefore they are handing out huge sums of money. (This is how you back up an argument with shoddy evidence right? Sorry I'm not used to making terrible arguments.)Bulla wrote:So we're ok with the constant tuition increase for a JD ? Just because you can do it doesn't make it right and the norm.
Do we have any evidence which backs this up ? May be a breakdown of class of 2020A. Nony Mouse wrote:You use the $100 million for scholarships for students who don't have any money, while still charging for students that do.Bulla wrote:You don't get $100 million donation and decide to raise tuition on students. What is the justification ?
Look, top tier law schools always seem to advocate for students and they talk often about lower tier law schools being predatory, Yale comes to mind often with Dean Asha. I am neither for and against top or bottom tier law schools.
I am for
1. Quality education.
2. Decent and affordable tuition.
3. Good reputation.
We call low tier law schools predatory and they are, lets also bring the top tier law school out from their shadow. As i told you before, don't put your head in the sand.
So we're both speculating ? I don't. We don't know how these donations are being given out to class of 2020 and what is the long term vision.A. Nony Mouse wrote:Do you have any evidence to the contrary?Bulla wrote:So we're ok with the constant tuition increase for a JD ? Just because you can do it doesn't make it right and the norm.
Do we have any evidence which backs this up ? May be a breakdown of class of 2020A. Nony Mouse wrote:You use the $100 million for scholarships for students who don't have any money, while still charging for students that do.Bulla wrote:You don't get $100 million donation and decide to raise tuition on students. What is the justification ?
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As I told you before... my main issue is singling out NU. Once you stop that we can start discussing the group of elite law schools you claim to be talking about. But as it stands you come off as a bitter rejected student because you claim to have a problem with the elite schools but only want to focus on NU. I'm not saying you have sound arguments against the rest of the elite law schools. But widening your scope would at least take away some of the vibe of being bitter about rejectionBulla wrote:Eh ? V for VendettaJclubb wrote:I don't think anyone said we were okay with increases. You singled out NU for this though because of some seemingly personal vendetta. And as for the breakdown I don't think that is available yet. But since 99% of your arguments are based on anecdotal evidence, I received a massive scholarship therefore they are handing out huge sums of money. (This is how you back up an argument with shoddy evidence right? Sorry I'm not used to making terrible arguments.)Bulla wrote:So we're ok with the constant tuition increase for a JD ? Just because you can do it doesn't make it right and the norm.
Do we have any evidence which backs this up ? May be a breakdown of class of 2020A. Nony Mouse wrote:You use the $100 million for scholarships for students who don't have any money, while still charging for students that do.Bulla wrote:You don't get $100 million donation and decide to raise tuition on students. What is the justification ?
Look, Top tier law schools always seem to advocate for students and they talk often about lower tier law schools being predatory, Yale comes to mind often with Dean Asha. I am neither for and against top or bottom tier law schools.
I am for
1. Quality education.
2. Decent and affordable tuition.
3. Good reputation.
We call low tier law schools predatory and they are, lets also bring the top tier law school out from their shadow. As i told you before, don't put your head in the sand.
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So you don't know. You can't say since you don't know, the donations aren't being used that way. No wonder you didn't get Northwestern. That's LSAT 101.Bulla wrote:So we're both speculating ? I don't. We don't know how these donations are being given out to class of 2020 and what is the long term vision.A. Nony Mouse wrote:Do you have any evidence to the contrary?Bulla wrote:So we're ok with the constant tuition increase for a JD ? Just because you can do it doesn't make it right and the norm.
Do we have any evidence which backs this up ? May be a breakdown of class of 2020A. Nony Mouse wrote:You use the $100 million for scholarships for students who don't have any money, while still charging for students that do.Bulla wrote:You don't get $100 million donation and decide to raise tuition on students. What is the justification ?
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Then if we talk about Yale and Harvard others will jump in and say why them why not NYU and Standford. The list goes on and on.Jclubb wrote:As I told you before... my main issue is singling out NU. Once you stop that we can start discussing the group of elite law schools you claim to be talking about. But as it stands you come off as a bitter rejected student because you claim to have a problem with the elite schools but only want to focus on NU. I'm not saying you have sound arguments against the rest of the elite law schools. But widening your scope would at least take away some of the vibe of being bitter about rejectionBulla wrote:Eh ? V for VendettaJclubb wrote:I don't think anyone said we were okay with increases. You singled out NU for this though because of some seemingly personal vendetta. And as for the breakdown I don't think that is available yet. But since 99% of your arguments are based on anecdotal evidence, I received a massive scholarship therefore they are handing out huge sums of money. (This is how you back up an argument with shoddy evidence right? Sorry I'm not used to making terrible arguments.)Bulla wrote:So we're ok with the constant tuition increase for a JD ? Just because you can do it doesn't make it right and the norm.
Do we have any evidence which backs this up ? May be a breakdown of class of 2020A. Nony Mouse wrote:You use the $100 million for scholarships for students who don't have any money, while still charging for students that do.Bulla wrote:You don't get $100 million donation and decide to raise tuition on students. What is the justification ?
Look, Top tier law schools always seem to advocate for students and they talk often about lower tier law schools being predatory, Yale comes to mind often with Dean Asha. I am neither for and against top or bottom tier law schools.
I am for
1. Quality education.
2. Decent and affordable tuition.
3. Good reputation.
We call low tier law schools predatory and they are, lets also bring the top tier law school out from their shadow. As i told you before, don't put your head in the sand.
We both posed the question dummy. Mouse doesn't have the evidence neither do I.devilsadvocatetroll wrote:So you don't know. You can't say since you don't know, the donations aren't being used that way. No wonder you didn't get Northwestern. That's LSAT 101.Bulla wrote:So we're both speculating ? I don't. We don't know how these donations are being given out to class of 2020 and what is the long term vision.A. Nony Mouse wrote:Do you have any evidence to the contrary?Bulla wrote:So we're ok with the constant tuition increase for a JD ? Just because you can do it doesn't make it right and the norm.
Do we have any evidence which backs this up ? May be a breakdown of class of 2020A. Nony Mouse wrote:You use the $100 million for scholarships for students who don't have any money, while still charging for students that do.Bulla wrote:You don't get $100 million donation and decide to raise tuition on students. What is the justification ?
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Burden of proof is on you lmao. You sound like our current president.Bulla wrote:Then if we talk about Yale and Harvard others will jump in and say why them why not NYU and Standford. The list goes on and on.Jclubb wrote:As I told you before... my main issue is singling out NU. Once you stop that we can start discussing the group of elite law schools you claim to be talking about. But as it stands you come off as a bitter rejected student because you claim to have a problem with the elite schools but only want to focus on NU. I'm not saying you have sound arguments against the rest of the elite law schools. But widening your scope would at least take away some of the vibe of being bitter about rejectionBulla wrote:Eh ? V for VendettaJclubb wrote:I don't think anyone said we were okay with increases. You singled out NU for this though because of some seemingly personal vendetta. And as for the breakdown I don't think that is available yet. But since 99% of your arguments are based on anecdotal evidence, I received a massive scholarship therefore they are handing out huge sums of money. (This is how you back up an argument with shoddy evidence right? Sorry I'm not used to making terrible arguments.)Bulla wrote:So we're ok with the constant tuition increase for a JD ? Just because you can do it doesn't make it right and the norm.
Do we have any evidence which backs this up ? May be a breakdown of class of 2020A. Nony Mouse wrote:You use the $100 million for scholarships for students who don't have any money, while still charging for students that do.Bulla wrote:You don't get $100 million donation and decide to raise tuition on students. What is the justification ?
Look, Top tier law schools always seem to advocate for students and they talk often about lower tier law schools being predatory, Yale comes to mind often with Dean Asha. I am neither for and against top or bottom tier law schools.
I am for
1. Quality education.
2. Decent and affordable tuition.
3. Good reputation.
We call low tier law schools predatory and they are, lets also bring the top tier law school out from their shadow. As i told you before, don't put your head in the sand.
We both posed the question dummy. Mouse doesn't have the evidence neither do I.devilsadvocatetroll wrote:So you don't know. You can't say since you don't know, the donations aren't being used that way. No wonder you didn't get Northwestern. That's LSAT 101.Bulla wrote:So we're both speculating ? I don't. We don't know how these donations are being given out to class of 2020 and what is the long term vision.A. Nony Mouse wrote:Do you have any evidence to the contrary?Bulla wrote:So we're ok with the constant tuition increase for a JD ? Just because you can do it doesn't make it right and the norm.
Do we have any evidence which backs this up ? May be a breakdown of class of 2020A. Nony Mouse wrote:You use the $100 million for scholarships for students who don't have any money, while still charging for students that do.Bulla wrote:You don't get $100 million donation and decide to raise tuition on students. What is the justification ?
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