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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby Tx878 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:13 pm

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Most of the city of Houston is pretty liberal. Some areas aren't, and gerrymandering gives them too much power (in my opinion as someone who leans more towards the left). All in all, though, Houston votes Democrat. It's also extremely diverse. I love the city of Houston. The suburbs, though, are very "Texas" and tend to be much more conservative. I went to high school in one and hated it. I don't have much experience with Dallas, but I know the city tends to vote Dem. I bet their suburbs are as conservative or more so than Houston's, though. When you look at maps showing how people vote, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin and the area near the Mexico border are always dots of blue in a sea of red. Those bigger cities are generally a much more liberal feel. I'd say Austin is maybe the most consistently liberal though. But if you ended up working in Dallas or Houston, I think you'd feel pretty at home. Especially in Houston. But Austinites and Houstonians are just made to hate Dallas so I'm biased.

Oh ya, it's pretty close. I'd say Sabina is maybe a 15-20 minute walk to the law school. I'm pretty sure there'd be sidewalks most of if not the whole way too. I also think it's a pretty short walk to one of the UT shuttle stops.

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby brinicolec » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:21 pm

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brinicolec wrote:


Most of the city of Houston is pretty liberal. Some areas aren't, and gerrymandering gives them too much power (in my opinion as someone who leans more towards the left). All in all, though, Houston votes Democrat. It's also extremely diverse. I love the city of Houston. The suburbs, though, are very "Texas" and tend to be much more conservative. I went to high school in one and hated it. I don't have much experience with Dallas, but I know the city tends to vote Dem. I bet their suburbs are as conservative or more so than Houston's, though. When you look at maps showing how people vote, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin and the area near the Mexico border are always dots of blue in a sea of red. Those bigger cities are generally a much more liberal feel. I'd say Austin is maybe the most consistently liberal though. But if you ended up working in Dallas or Houston, I think you'd feel pretty at home. Especially in Houston. But Austinites and Houstonians are just made to hate Dallas so I'm biased.

Oh ya, it's pretty close. I'd say Sabina is maybe a 15-20 minute walk to the law school. I'm pretty sure there'd be sidewalks most of if not the whole way too. I also think it's a pretty short walk to one of the UT shuttle stops.


That's what I suspected! Thanks for all the details, especially as a fellow liberal lol.

I'll definitely have to look into it more. I'm not sure how their pricing is. Any idea what I should expect a 1br to cost in the area in walking distance from the school?

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby Tx878 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:30 pm

brinicolec wrote:
Tx878 wrote:
brinicolec wrote:


Most of the city of Houston is pretty liberal. Some areas aren't, and gerrymandering gives them too much power (in my opinion as someone who leans more towards the left). All in all, though, Houston votes Democrat. It's also extremely diverse. I love the city of Houston. The suburbs, though, are very "Texas" and tend to be much more conservative. I went to high school in one and hated it. I don't have much experience with Dallas, but I know the city tends to vote Dem. I bet their suburbs are as conservative or more so than Houston's, though. When you look at maps showing how people vote, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin and the area near the Mexico border are always dots of blue in a sea of red. Those bigger cities are generally a much more liberal feel. I'd say Austin is maybe the most consistently liberal though. But if you ended up working in Dallas or Houston, I think you'd feel pretty at home. Especially in Houston. But Austinites and Houstonians are just made to hate Dallas so I'm biased.

Oh ya, it's pretty close. I'd say Sabina is maybe a 15-20 minute walk to the law school. I'm pretty sure there'd be sidewalks most of if not the whole way too. I also think it's a pretty short walk to one of the UT shuttle stops.


That's what I suspected! Thanks for all the details, especially as a fellow liberal lol.

I'll definitely have to look into it more. I'm not sure how their pricing is. Any idea what I should expect a 1br to cost in the area in walking distance from the school?


You're very welcome :D Texas politics are just wild.

I'd say cheapest would be around 850 which would be smaller, older and just not as nice. Might have to get a studio to stay in the 800's. That's not to say people don't find stuff for less but I wouldn't really plan on going lower than that (especially if you'll be living alone). For something nicer, it could go quite a bit over 1,000. I don't pay it, but my current place just went up to like 1,300. But there's quite a bit in the 950-1,050 or so range for a one bedroom.

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby brinicolec » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:43 pm

Tx878 wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
Tx878 wrote:
brinicolec wrote:


Most of the city of Houston is pretty liberal. Some areas aren't, and gerrymandering gives them too much power (in my opinion as someone who leans more towards the left). All in all, though, Houston votes Democrat. It's also extremely diverse. I love the city of Houston. The suburbs, though, are very "Texas" and tend to be much more conservative. I went to high school in one and hated it. I don't have much experience with Dallas, but I know the city tends to vote Dem. I bet their suburbs are as conservative or more so than Houston's, though. When you look at maps showing how people vote, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin and the area near the Mexico border are always dots of blue in a sea of red. Those bigger cities are generally a much more liberal feel. I'd say Austin is maybe the most consistently liberal though. But if you ended up working in Dallas or Houston, I think you'd feel pretty at home. Especially in Houston. But Austinites and Houstonians are just made to hate Dallas so I'm biased.

Oh ya, it's pretty close. I'd say Sabina is maybe a 15-20 minute walk to the law school. I'm pretty sure there'd be sidewalks most of if not the whole way too. I also think it's a pretty short walk to one of the UT shuttle stops.


That's what I suspected! Thanks for all the details, especially as a fellow liberal lol.

I'll definitely have to look into it more. I'm not sure how their pricing is. Any idea what I should expect a 1br to cost in the area in walking distance from the school?


You're very welcome :D Texas politics are just wild.

I'd say cheapest would be around 850 which would be smaller, older and just not as nice. Might have to get a studio to stay in the 800's. That's not to say people don't find stuff for less but I wouldn't really plan on going lower than that (especially if you'll be living alone). For something nicer, it could go quite a bit over 1,000. I don't pay it, but my current place just went up to like 1,300. But there's quite a bit in the 950-1,050 or so range for a one bedroom.


That's not too bad. Other places I'm considering are D.C. and Boston, so comparatively... I think Texas is still less lol

Edit: I'm weird because I like the concept of studio apartments, I'd just want a larger one if I got one lol

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby Tx878 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:57 pm

brinicolec wrote:
Tx878 wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
Tx878 wrote:
brinicolec wrote:


Most of the city of Houston is pretty liberal. Some areas aren't, and gerrymandering gives them too much power (in my opinion as someone who leans more towards the left). All in all, though, Houston votes Democrat. It's also extremely diverse. I love the city of Houston. The suburbs, though, are very "Texas" and tend to be much more conservative. I went to high school in one and hated it. I don't have much experience with Dallas, but I know the city tends to vote Dem. I bet their suburbs are as conservative or more so than Houston's, though. When you look at maps showing how people vote, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin and the area near the Mexico border are always dots of blue in a sea of red. Those bigger cities are generally a much more liberal feel. I'd say Austin is maybe the most consistently liberal though. But if you ended up working in Dallas or Houston, I think you'd feel pretty at home. Especially in Houston. But Austinites and Houstonians are just made to hate Dallas so I'm biased.

Oh ya, it's pretty close. I'd say Sabina is maybe a 15-20 minute walk to the law school. I'm pretty sure there'd be sidewalks most of if not the whole way too. I also think it's a pretty short walk to one of the UT shuttle stops.


That's what I suspected! Thanks for all the details, especially as a fellow liberal lol.

I'll definitely have to look into it more. I'm not sure how their pricing is. Any idea what I should expect a 1br to cost in the area in walking distance from the school?


You're very welcome :D Texas politics are just wild.

I'd say cheapest would be around 850 which would be smaller, older and just not as nice. Might have to get a studio to stay in the 800's. That's not to say people don't find stuff for less but I wouldn't really plan on going lower than that (especially if you'll be living alone). For something nicer, it could go quite a bit over 1,000. I don't pay it, but my current place just went up to like 1,300. But there's quite a bit in the 950-1,050 or so range for a one bedroom.


That's not too bad. Other places I'm considering are D.C. and Boston, so comparatively... I think Texas is still less lol

Edit: I'm weird because I like the concept of studio apartments, I'd just want a larger one if I got one lol



Oh, yeah, it'll be cheaper here! Austin's bad, but not D.C or Boston bad I don't think. Especially since you aren't looking at downtown. There are plenty of studios in Hyde Park and North Campus. I bet you can find a bigger one. I've also seen some back houses and garage apartments that are studios if you'd be open to that.

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby periwinkley » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:39 pm

Hey! Current 1L at UT. Would be happy to answer any questions/concerns! Feel free to PM me as well. UT is awesome and you definitely won't regret visiting/attending!

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby Hikikomorist » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:59 pm

Tx878 wrote:
brinicolec wrote:


Most of the city of Houston is pretty liberal. Some areas aren't, and gerrymandering gives them too much power (in my opinion as someone who leans more towards the left). All in all, though, Houston votes Democrat. It's also extremely diverse. I love the city of Houston. The suburbs, though, are very "Texas" and tend to be much more conservative. I went to high school in one and hated it. I don't have much experience with Dallas, but I know the city tends to vote Dem. I bet their suburbs are as conservative or more so than Houston's, though. When you look at maps showing how people vote, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin and the area near the Mexico border are always dots of blue in a sea of red. Those bigger cities are generally a much more liberal feel. I'd say Austin is maybe the most consistently liberal though. But if you ended up working in Dallas or Houston, I think you'd feel pretty at home. Especially in Houston. But Austinites and Houstonians are just made to hate Dallas so I'm biased.

Oh ya, it's pretty close. I'd say Sabina is maybe a 15-20 minute walk to the law school. I'm pretty sure there'd be sidewalks most of if not the whole way too. I also think it's a pretty short walk to one of the UT shuttle stops.

Yeah, city buses (free with your school ID) pick up close to Sabina (maybe a 3-minute walk) and drop you off next to the school. Not sure about the return trip, though, as most of the buses seem to drop people off on the other side of the highway (might have to walk a bit to cross).

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby Tx878 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:02 pm

Hikikomorist wrote:
Tx878 wrote:
brinicolec wrote:


Most of the city of Houston is pretty liberal. Some areas aren't, and gerrymandering gives them too much power (in my opinion as someone who leans more towards the left). All in all, though, Houston votes Democrat. It's also extremely diverse. I love the city of Houston. The suburbs, though, are very "Texas" and tend to be much more conservative. I went to high school in one and hated it. I don't have much experience with Dallas, but I know the city tends to vote Dem. I bet their suburbs are as conservative or more so than Houston's, though. When you look at maps showing how people vote, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin and the area near the Mexico border are always dots of blue in a sea of red. Those bigger cities are generally a much more liberal feel. I'd say Austin is maybe the most consistently liberal though. But if you ended up working in Dallas or Houston, I think you'd feel pretty at home. Especially in Houston. But Austinites and Houstonians are just made to hate Dallas so I'm biased.

Oh ya, it's pretty close. I'd say Sabina is maybe a 15-20 minute walk to the law school. I'm pretty sure there'd be sidewalks most of if not the whole way too. I also think it's a pretty short walk to one of the UT shuttle stops.

Yeah, city buses (free with your school ID) pick up close to Sabina (maybe a 3-minute walk) and drop you off next to the school. Not sure about the return trip, though, as most of the buses seem to drop people off on the other side of the highway (might have to walk a bit to cross).

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What is the culture and atmosphere of the school like?

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby Hikikomorist » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:13 pm

Tx878 wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:
Tx878 wrote:
brinicolec wrote:


Most of the city of Houston is pretty liberal. Some areas aren't, and gerrymandering gives them too much power (in my opinion as someone who leans more towards the left). All in all, though, Houston votes Democrat. It's also extremely diverse. I love the city of Houston. The suburbs, though, are very "Texas" and tend to be much more conservative. I went to high school in one and hated it. I don't have much experience with Dallas, but I know the city tends to vote Dem. I bet their suburbs are as conservative or more so than Houston's, though. When you look at maps showing how people vote, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin and the area near the Mexico border are always dots of blue in a sea of red. Those bigger cities are generally a much more liberal feel. I'd say Austin is maybe the most consistently liberal though. But if you ended up working in Dallas or Houston, I think you'd feel pretty at home. Especially in Houston. But Austinites and Houstonians are just made to hate Dallas so I'm biased.

Oh ya, it's pretty close. I'd say Sabina is maybe a 15-20 minute walk to the law school. I'm pretty sure there'd be sidewalks most of if not the whole way too. I also think it's a pretty short walk to one of the UT shuttle stops.

Yeah, city buses (free with your school ID) pick up close to Sabina (maybe a 3-minute walk) and drop you off next to the school. Not sure about the return trip, though, as most of the buses seem to drop people off on the other side of the highway (might have to walk a bit to cross).

2L who's happy to answer questions.



What is the culture and atmosphere of the school like?

As a disclaimer (and apology for possibly sounding patronizing), I would recommend against weighing a law school's culture too heavily in your calculus. It can change somewhat quickly, year to year, and it just isn't that important a factor, in my opinion. Finally, I think the vast majority of peer law schools have roughly similar cultures.

That being said, I've really enjoyed UT's culture/atmosphere so far. Never had a bad personal experience with another student or professor. Got the impression my entire 1L section was rather harmonious, too. Can't really speak to other sections, but I haven't met any difficult students since then, either. One thing the law school possibly does better than other law schools is putting (for the most part) the best lecturers in front of 1Ls.

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby Tx878 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:24 pm

Hikikomorist wrote:
Tx878 wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:
Tx878 wrote:
brinicolec wrote:


Most of the city of Houston is pretty liberal. Some areas aren't, and gerrymandering gives them too much power (in my opinion as someone who leans more towards the left). All in all, though, Houston votes Democrat. It's also extremely diverse. I love the city of Houston. The suburbs, though, are very "Texas" and tend to be much more conservative. I went to high school in one and hated it. I don't have much experience with Dallas, but I know the city tends to vote Dem. I bet their suburbs are as conservative or more so than Houston's, though. When you look at maps showing how people vote, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin and the area near the Mexico border are always dots of blue in a sea of red. Those bigger cities are generally a much more liberal feel. I'd say Austin is maybe the most consistently liberal though. But if you ended up working in Dallas or Houston, I think you'd feel pretty at home. Especially in Houston. But Austinites and Houstonians are just made to hate Dallas so I'm biased.

Oh ya, it's pretty close. I'd say Sabina is maybe a 15-20 minute walk to the law school. I'm pretty sure there'd be sidewalks most of if not the whole way too. I also think it's a pretty short walk to one of the UT shuttle stops.

Yeah, city buses (free with your school ID) pick up close to Sabina (maybe a 3-minute walk) and drop you off next to the school. Not sure about the return trip, though, as most of the buses seem to drop people off on the other side of the highway (might have to walk a bit to cross).

2L who's happy to answer questions.



What is the culture and atmosphere of the school like?

As a disclaimer (and apology for possibly sounding patronizing), I would recommend against weighing a law school's culture too heavily in your calculus. It can change somewhat quickly, year to year, and it just isn't that important a factor, in my opinion. Finally, I think the vast majority of peer law schools have roughly similar cultures.

That being said, I've really enjoyed UT's culture/atmosphere so far. Never had a bad personal experience with another student or professor. Got the impression my entire 1L section was rather harmonious, too. Can't really speak to other sections, but I haven't met any difficult students since then, either. One thing the law school possibly does better than other law schools is putting (for the most part) the best lecturers in front of 1Ls.


Oh, no, not patronizing at all- I totally get what you're saying. Thanks for that perspective. I've actually pretty much settled on UT 100% anyways. But thank you for the info :) I mostly just want to avoid somewhere where every student I talked to has a horror story about the culture...example: although I never considered Baylor seriously, I've never heard anything good from any student about the atmosphere which would turn me away

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby brinicolec » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:37 pm

Tx878 wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:
Tx878 wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:
Tx878 wrote:
brinicolec wrote:


Most of the city of Houston is pretty liberal. Some areas aren't, and gerrymandering gives them too much power (in my opinion as someone who leans more towards the left). All in all, though, Houston votes Democrat. It's also extremely diverse. I love the city of Houston. The suburbs, though, are very "Texas" and tend to be much more conservative. I went to high school in one and hated it. I don't have much experience with Dallas, but I know the city tends to vote Dem. I bet their suburbs are as conservative or more so than Houston's, though. When you look at maps showing how people vote, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin and the area near the Mexico border are always dots of blue in a sea of red. Those bigger cities are generally a much more liberal feel. I'd say Austin is maybe the most consistently liberal though. But if you ended up working in Dallas or Houston, I think you'd feel pretty at home. Especially in Houston. But Austinites and Houstonians are just made to hate Dallas so I'm biased.

Oh ya, it's pretty close. I'd say Sabina is maybe a 15-20 minute walk to the law school. I'm pretty sure there'd be sidewalks most of if not the whole way too. I also think it's a pretty short walk to one of the UT shuttle stops.

Yeah, city buses (free with your school ID) pick up close to Sabina (maybe a 3-minute walk) and drop you off next to the school. Not sure about the return trip, though, as most of the buses seem to drop people off on the other side of the highway (might have to walk a bit to cross).

2L who's happy to answer questions.



What is the culture and atmosphere of the school like?

As a disclaimer (and apology for possibly sounding patronizing), I would recommend against weighing a law school's culture too heavily in your calculus. It can change somewhat quickly, year to year, and it just isn't that important a factor, in my opinion. Finally, I think the vast majority of peer law schools have roughly similar cultures.

That being said, I've really enjoyed UT's culture/atmosphere so far. Never had a bad personal experience with another student or professor. Got the impression my entire 1L section was rather harmonious, too. Can't really speak to other sections, but I haven't met any difficult students since then, either. One thing the law school possibly does better than other law schools is putting (for the most part) the best lecturers in front of 1Ls.


Oh, no, not patronizing at all- I totally get what you're saying. Thanks for that perspective. I've actually pretty much settled on UT 100% anyways. But thank you for the info :) I mostly just want to avoid somewhere where every student I talked to has a horror story about the culture...example: although I never considered Baylor seriously, I've never heard anything good from any student about the atmosphere which would turn me away


I feel you. I hear similar strange things about GULC.

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby Hikikomorist » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:41 pm

brinicolec wrote:
Tx878 wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:
Tx878 wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:
Tx878 wrote:
brinicolec wrote:


Most of the city of Houston is pretty liberal. Some areas aren't, and gerrymandering gives them too much power (in my opinion as someone who leans more towards the left). All in all, though, Houston votes Democrat. It's also extremely diverse. I love the city of Houston. The suburbs, though, are very "Texas" and tend to be much more conservative. I went to high school in one and hated it. I don't have much experience with Dallas, but I know the city tends to vote Dem. I bet their suburbs are as conservative or more so than Houston's, though. When you look at maps showing how people vote, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin and the area near the Mexico border are always dots of blue in a sea of red. Those bigger cities are generally a much more liberal feel. I'd say Austin is maybe the most consistently liberal though. But if you ended up working in Dallas or Houston, I think you'd feel pretty at home. Especially in Houston. But Austinites and Houstonians are just made to hate Dallas so I'm biased.

Oh ya, it's pretty close. I'd say Sabina is maybe a 15-20 minute walk to the law school. I'm pretty sure there'd be sidewalks most of if not the whole way too. I also think it's a pretty short walk to one of the UT shuttle stops.

Yeah, city buses (free with your school ID) pick up close to Sabina (maybe a 3-minute walk) and drop you off next to the school. Not sure about the return trip, though, as most of the buses seem to drop people off on the other side of the highway (might have to walk a bit to cross).

2L who's happy to answer questions.



What is the culture and atmosphere of the school like?

As a disclaimer (and apology for possibly sounding patronizing), I would recommend against weighing a law school's culture too heavily in your calculus. It can change somewhat quickly, year to year, and it just isn't that important a factor, in my opinion. Finally, I think the vast majority of peer law schools have roughly similar cultures.

That being said, I've really enjoyed UT's culture/atmosphere so far. Never had a bad personal experience with another student or professor. Got the impression my entire 1L section was rather harmonious, too. Can't really speak to other sections, but I haven't met any difficult students since then, either. One thing the law school possibly does better than other law schools is putting (for the most part) the best lecturers in front of 1Ls.


Oh, no, not patronizing at all- I totally get what you're saying. Thanks for that perspective. I've actually pretty much settled on UT 100% anyways. But thank you for the info :) I mostly just want to avoid somewhere where every student I talked to has a horror story about the culture...example: although I never considered Baylor seriously, I've never heard anything good from any student about the atmosphere which would turn me away


I feel you. I hear similar strange things about GULC.

FWIW, the best group of TLSers in my cycle was the GULC contingent.

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Postby brinicolec » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:28 pm

Hikikomorist wrote:FWIW, the best group of TLSers in my cycle was the GULC contingent.



It's just strange because I've seen some current students kind of just refer to it solely as an investment, which kinda makes me feel like they don't love it. And obviously, you're not gonna carry as much pride for grad school as UG, but I feel like if you actually enjoy the school you're at, it'd at least be more than just an investment. Plus, I think it seems like a lot of UT law students still are kind of proud of the school they go to, and I like that lol

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby EvanWilliams2 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:44 am

Thanks to all who have offered to answer questions. I am excited to be attending UT Law this Fall. I kind of want to get an idea of what to expect so I have an odd question. Can you talk about some of the things that you dislike about being a student at UT, if any? I'm aware of the positives of the school, but haven't heard much about any negatives. I am familiar with Austin so I know the good/bad of the area, but can you talk about any grievances you have with the school in particular (classes, professors, administration, employment prospects, facilities, etc.)? I figure there must be at least a few. Thanks again!

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Postby brinicolec » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:06 am

EvanWilliams2 wrote:Thanks to all who have offered to answer questions. I am excited to be attending UT Law this Fall. I kind of want to get an idea of what to expect so I have an odd question. Can you talk about some of the things that you dislike about being a student at UT, if any? I'm aware of the positives of the school, but haven't heard much about any negatives. I am familiar with Austin so I know the good/bad of the area, but can you talk about any grievances you have with the school in particular (classes, professors, administration, employment prospects, facilities, etc.)? I figure there must be at least a few. Thanks again!



OOOOH, +180! This is a good question.

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby Hikikomorist » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:52 am

EvanWilliams2 wrote:Thanks to all who have offered to answer questions. I am excited to be attending UT Law this Fall. I kind of want to get an idea of what to expect so I have an odd question. Can you talk about some of the things that you dislike about being a student at UT, if any? I'm aware of the positives of the school, but haven't heard much about any negatives. I am familiar with Austin so I know the good/bad of the area, but can you talk about any grievances you have with the school in particular (classes, professors, administration, employment prospects, facilities, etc.)? I figure there must be at least a few. Thanks again!

With the same disclaimer as last time (that none of this should affect your decision): the school is mostly old and not very pretty. They've been doing work in this area and continue to do so, but the building largely is what it is at this point. This is also the case with most law schools, I think. Employment prospects could always be better, and were I in your shoes, I'd be hoping for a smaller class size. But UT has handled class sizes more responsibly than a lot of law schools, so it's hard to fault them. That's the main thing: the shitty things about UT are mostly the shitty things about all the other law schools, much like how the good things are mostly all the same, too. I know that doesn't help much for those still choosing between schools (not you, but anyone else).

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby brinicolec » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:57 am

Hikikomorist wrote:
EvanWilliams2 wrote:Thanks to all who have offered to answer questions. I am excited to be attending UT Law this Fall. I kind of want to get an idea of what to expect so I have an odd question. Can you talk about some of the things that you dislike about being a student at UT, if any? I'm aware of the positives of the school, but haven't heard much about any negatives. I am familiar with Austin so I know the good/bad of the area, but can you talk about any grievances you have with the school in particular (classes, professors, administration, employment prospects, facilities, etc.)? I figure there must be at least a few. Thanks again!

With the same disclaimer as last time (that none of this should affect your decision): the school is mostly old and not very pretty. They've been doing work in this area and continue to do so, but the building largely is what it is at this point. This is also the case with most law schools, I think. Employment prospects could always be better, and were I in your shoes, I'd be hoping for a smaller class size. But UT has handled class sizes more responsibly than a lot of law schools, so it's hard to fault them. That's the main thing: the ducky things about UT are mostly the ducky things about all the other law schools, much like how the good things are mostly all the same, too. I know that doesn't help much for those still choosing between schools (not you, but anyone else).


When I crept through the school over the summer (early-August-ish), they seemed to be doing some work. Any idea what it was?

Is the reasoning behind hoping for a smaller class size that it makes UT Law grads harder to come by/more competitive in the market or is there another reason?

Also, a question not really related to your answers: What are the 1L section sizes at UT?

I'd say that your complaints seem to be minimal as compared to some other complaints I've seen about other schools lol.

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby Hikikomorist » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:04 am

brinicolec wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:
EvanWilliams2 wrote:Thanks to all who have offered to answer questions. I am excited to be attending UT Law this Fall. I kind of want to get an idea of what to expect so I have an odd question. Can you talk about some of the things that you dislike about being a student at UT, if any? I'm aware of the positives of the school, but haven't heard much about any negatives. I am familiar with Austin so I know the good/bad of the area, but can you talk about any grievances you have with the school in particular (classes, professors, administration, employment prospects, facilities, etc.)? I figure there must be at least a few. Thanks again!

With the same disclaimer as last time (that none of this should affect your decision): the school is mostly old and not very pretty. They've been doing work in this area and continue to do so, but the building largely is what it is at this point. This is also the case with most law schools, I think. Employment prospects could always be better, and were I in your shoes, I'd be hoping for a smaller class size. But UT has handled class sizes more responsibly than a lot of law schools, so it's hard to fault them. That's the main thing: the ducky things about UT are mostly the ducky things about all the other law schools, much like how the good things are mostly all the same, too. I know that doesn't help much for those still choosing between schools (not you, but anyone else).


When I crept through the school over the summer (early-August-ish), they seemed to be doing some work. Any idea what it was?

Is the reasoning behind hoping for a smaller class size that it makes UT Law grads harder to come by/more competitive in the market or is there another reason?

Also, a question not really related to your answers: What are the 1L section sizes at UT?

I'd say that your complaints seem to be minimal as compared to some other complaints I've seen about other schools lol.

They remodeled the main lobby area and added a cafe. My year had 65-person sections, but I think they usually have around 75 people. And, yeah, the only reason for wanting fewer people is to boost employment prospects.

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby brinicolec » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:23 am

Hikikomorist wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:
EvanWilliams2 wrote:Thanks to all who have offered to answer questions. I am excited to be attending UT Law this Fall. I kind of want to get an idea of what to expect so I have an odd question. Can you talk about some of the things that you dislike about being a student at UT, if any? I'm aware of the positives of the school, but haven't heard much about any negatives. I am familiar with Austin so I know the good/bad of the area, but can you talk about any grievances you have with the school in particular (classes, professors, administration, employment prospects, facilities, etc.)? I figure there must be at least a few. Thanks again!

With the same disclaimer as last time (that none of this should affect your decision): the school is mostly old and not very pretty. They've been doing work in this area and continue to do so, but the building largely is what it is at this point. This is also the case with most law schools, I think. Employment prospects could always be better, and were I in your shoes, I'd be hoping for a smaller class size. But UT has handled class sizes more responsibly than a lot of law schools, so it's hard to fault them. That's the main thing: the ducky things about UT are mostly the ducky things about all the other law schools, much like how the good things are mostly all the same, too. I know that doesn't help much for those still choosing between schools (not you, but anyone else).


When I crept through the school over the summer (early-August-ish), they seemed to be doing some work. Any idea what it was?

Is the reasoning behind hoping for a smaller class size that it makes UT Law grads harder to come by/more competitive in the market or is there another reason?

Also, a question not really related to your answers: What are the 1L section sizes at UT?

I'd say that your complaints seem to be minimal as compared to some other complaints I've seen about other schools lol.

They remodeled the main lobby area and added a cafe. My year had 65-person sections, but I think they usually have around 75 people. And, yeah, the only reason for wanting fewer people is to boost employment prospects.


Ohhhh. A cafe?! Just pastries and coffee? Did they also do something to the library or something like that?

I know other schools are currently working on cutting class sizes, is that a thing UT has mentioned at all or do you think they're content with their class size?

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby EvanWilliams2 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:00 am

brinicolec wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:
EvanWilliams2 wrote:Thanks to all who have offered to answer questions. I am excited to be attending UT Law this Fall. I kind of want to get an idea of what to expect so I have an odd question. Can you talk about some of the things that you dislike about being a student at UT, if any? I'm aware of the positives of the school, but haven't heard much about any negatives. I am familiar with Austin so I know the good/bad of the area, but can you talk about any grievances you have with the school in particular (classes, professors, administration, employment prospects, facilities, etc.)? I figure there must be at least a few. Thanks again!

With the same disclaimer as last time (that none of this should affect your decision): the school is mostly old and not very pretty. They've been doing work in this area and continue to do so, but the building largely is what it is at this point. This is also the case with most law schools, I think. Employment prospects could always be better, and were I in your shoes, I'd be hoping for a smaller class size. But UT has handled class sizes more responsibly than a lot of law schools, so it's hard to fault them. That's the main thing: the ducky things about UT are mostly the ducky things about all the other law schools, much like how the good things are mostly all the same, too. I know that doesn't help much for those still choosing between schools (not you, but anyone else).


When I crept through the school over the summer (early-August-ish), they seemed to be doing some work. Any idea what it was?

Is the reasoning behind hoping for a smaller class size that it makes UT Law grads harder to come by/more competitive in the market or is there another reason?

Also, a question not really related to your answers: What are the 1L section sizes at UT?

I'd say that your complaints seem to be minimal as compared to some other complaints I've seen about other schools lol.

They remodeled the main lobby area and added a cafe. My year had 65-person sections, but I think they usually have around 75 people. And, yeah, the only reason for wanting fewer people is to boost employment prospects.


Ohhhh. A cafe?! Just pastries and coffee? Did they also do something to the library or something like that?

I know other schools are currently working on cutting class sizes, is that a thing UT has mentioned at all or do you think they're content with their class size?


Hikikomorist and the other current students on here probably know more than me, but I had a friend attend some kind of UT Law admissions panel last cycle and he said they told the audience that they were trying to decrease the class size. I think it was to like 200-250 1L's, but I could be totally wrong on that number. According to my friend, they were definitely adamant about reducing the size though. Interestingly, the 1L class grew last year by 11% according to LST so who knows what is going on.

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby brinicolec » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:38 am

EvanWilliams2 wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:
EvanWilliams2 wrote:Thanks to all who have offered to answer questions. I am excited to be attending UT Law this Fall. I kind of want to get an idea of what to expect so I have an odd question. Can you talk about some of the things that you dislike about being a student at UT, if any? I'm aware of the positives of the school, but haven't heard much about any negatives. I am familiar with Austin so I know the good/bad of the area, but can you talk about any grievances you have with the school in particular (classes, professors, administration, employment prospects, facilities, etc.)? I figure there must be at least a few. Thanks again!

With the same disclaimer as last time (that none of this should affect your decision): the school is mostly old and not very pretty. They've been doing work in this area and continue to do so, but the building largely is what it is at this point. This is also the case with most law schools, I think. Employment prospects could always be better, and were I in your shoes, I'd be hoping for a smaller class size. But UT has handled class sizes more responsibly than a lot of law schools, so it's hard to fault them. That's the main thing: the ducky things about UT are mostly the ducky things about all the other law schools, much like how the good things are mostly all the same, too. I know that doesn't help much for those still choosing between schools (not you, but anyone else).


When I crept through the school over the summer (early-August-ish), they seemed to be doing some work. Any idea what it was?

Is the reasoning behind hoping for a smaller class size that it makes UT Law grads harder to come by/more competitive in the market or is there another reason?

Also, a question not really related to your answers: What are the 1L section sizes at UT?

I'd say that your complaints seem to be minimal as compared to some other complaints I've seen about other schools lol.

They remodeled the main lobby area and added a cafe. My year had 65-person sections, but I think they usually have around 75 people. And, yeah, the only reason for wanting fewer people is to boost employment prospects.


Ohhhh. A cafe?! Just pastries and coffee? Did they also do something to the library or something like that?

I know other schools are currently working on cutting class sizes, is that a thing UT has mentioned at all or do you think they're content with their class size?


Hikikomorist and the other current students on here probably know more than me, but I had a friend attend some kind of UT Law admissions panel last cycle and he said they told the audience that they were trying to decrease the class size. I think it was to like 200-250 1L's, but I could be totally wrong on that number. According to my friend, they were definitely adamant about reducing the size though. Interestingly, the 1L class grew last year by 11% according to LST so who knows what is going on.


Could've just been trying to sell UT more :lol: :lol:

That is interesting though. Looking at the ABA reports for 2015 and 2016, I wonder if part of it has to do with the amount of applicants.

But idk because in 2015, they had 4303 applicants; in 2016, they had 4424. That's about a 3% increase in applicants BUT the amount they offered had around a 27% increase, and as you said, the class size increased by about 11%. I wonder what caused such an increase in the amount offered, because I suppose that's the # that matters most when considering class size. Like, did they think they were going to face more competition for students they usually have attending or something? OR was there some sort of $-related thing that made them want some extra tuition payments? I'm just spitballing here. I have no idea how any of this works lol. Either way, 2016 numbers don't seem to indicate that we'll see a decrease in class size. It will definitely be interesting to see what the numbers for this cycle are though. Since they have so much fluctuation in their class size already, it wouldn't be that difficult for them to get to 250 if they really wanted to lol.

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby poptart123 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:40 pm

brinicolec wrote:
EvanWilliams2 wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:
EvanWilliams2 wrote:Thanks to all who have offered to answer questions. I am excited to be attending UT Law this Fall. I kind of want to get an idea of what to expect so I have an odd question. Can you talk about some of the things that you dislike about being a student at UT, if any? I'm aware of the positives of the school, but haven't heard much about any negatives. I am familiar with Austin so I know the good/bad of the area, but can you talk about any grievances you have with the school in particular (classes, professors, administration, employment prospects, facilities, etc.)? I figure there must be at least a few. Thanks again!

With the same disclaimer as last time (that none of this should affect your decision): the school is mostly old and not very pretty. They've been doing work in this area and continue to do so, but the building largely is what it is at this point. This is also the case with most law schools, I think. Employment prospects could always be better, and were I in your shoes, I'd be hoping for a smaller class size. But UT has handled class sizes more responsibly than a lot of law schools, so it's hard to fault them. That's the main thing: the ducky things about UT are mostly the ducky things about all the other law schools, much like how the good things are mostly all the same, too. I know that doesn't help much for those still choosing between schools (not you, but anyone else).


When I crept through the school over the summer (early-August-ish), they seemed to be doing some work. Any idea what it was?

Is the reasoning behind hoping for a smaller class size that it makes UT Law grads harder to come by/more competitive in the market or is there another reason?

Also, a question not really related to your answers: What are the 1L section sizes at UT?

I'd say that your complaints seem to be minimal as compared to some other complaints I've seen about other schools lol.

They remodeled the main lobby area and added a cafe. My year had 65-person sections, but I think they usually have around 75 people. And, yeah, the only reason for wanting fewer people is to boost employment prospects.


Ohhhh. A cafe?! Just pastries and coffee? Did they also do something to the library or something like that?

I know other schools are currently working on cutting class sizes, is that a thing UT has mentioned at all or do you think they're content with their class size?


Hikikomorist and the other current students on here probably know more than me, but I had a friend attend some kind of UT Law admissions panel last cycle and he said they told the audience that they were trying to decrease the class size. I think it was to like 200-250 1L's, but I could be totally wrong on that number. According to my friend, they were definitely adamant about reducing the size though. Interestingly, the 1L class grew last year by 11% according to LST so who knows what is going on.


Could've just been trying to sell UT more :lol: :lol:

That is interesting though. Looking at the ABA reports for 2015 and 2016, I wonder if part of it has to do with the amount of applicants.

But idk because in 2015, they had 4303 applicants; in 2016, they had 4424. That's about a 3% increase in applicants BUT the amount they offered had around a 27% increase, and as you said, the class size increased by about 11%. I wonder what caused such an increase in the amount offered, because I suppose that's the # that matters most when considering class size. Like, did they think they were going to face more competition for students they usually have attending or something? OR was there some sort of $-related thing that made them want some extra tuition payments? I'm just spitballing here. I have no idea how any of this works lol. Either way, 2016 numbers don't seem to indicate that we'll see a decrease in class size. It will definitely be interesting to see what the numbers for this cycle are though. Since they have so much fluctuation in their class size already, it wouldn't be that difficult for them to get to 250 if they really wanted to lol.


UT had a new admissions dean starting last year so thinks may be a little wonky? I think the scholarship negotiation process as is started with her.

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby brinicolec » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:51 pm

How much do you guys think a scholarship from BU will sway UT?

I'm still waiting on hearing about a scholarship, but based on last year's LSN stuff, I'm looking at probably $50-60k (60k being more optimistic) for my stats. Unfortunately, it's hard to know if these are negotiated scholarships or just the initial offer. Comparatively, BU has offered me $120k (over 75% tuition). Assuming that UT grants me in-state tuition and considering Boston's higher CoL, the couple of calculators I've plugged numbers into suggest BU would be cheaper. I know that BU is 20 and Texas is 15 but I'm confused about how exactly the peer schools work for this since after T14 they become quite regional... Even if Texas wouldn't match completely (cost-wise, not exact amount-wise), do you think they'd be willing to throw a little more money my way to lessen the blow?

Also, how much would you guys consider the lower CoL AFTER graduating when thinking about which school is ultimately "cheaper"? Boston prices seem to be up there around NYC prices and I'm wondering if it's a good idea to consider that after graduating, if I go to BU, I would either be working in Boston or NYC as compared to Houston/Dallas if I go to UT (plus, as people love to mention, the lower taxes in TX help money go farther).

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby Hikikomorist » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:58 pm

brinicolec wrote:How much do you guys think a scholarship from BU will sway UT?

I'm still waiting on hearing about a scholarship, but based on last year's LSN stuff, I'm looking at probably $50-60k (60k being more optimistic) for my stats. Unfortunately, it's hard to know if these are negotiated scholarships or just the initial offer. Comparatively, BU has offered me $120k (over 75% tuition). Assuming that UT grants me in-state tuition and considering Boston's higher CoL, the couple of calculators I've plugged numbers into suggest BU would be cheaper. I know that BU is 20 and Texas is 15 but I'm confused about how exactly the peer schools work for this since after T14 they become quite regional... Even if Texas wouldn't match completely (cost-wise, not exact amount-wise), do you think they'd be willing to throw a little more money my way to lessen the blow?

Also, how much would you guys consider the lower CoL AFTER graduating when thinking about which school is ultimately "cheaper"? Boston prices seem to be up there around NYC prices and I'm wondering if it's a good idea to consider that after graduating, if I go to BU, I would either be working in Boston or NYC as compared to Houston/Dallas if I go to UT (plus, as people love to mention, the lower taxes in TX help money go farther).

So, you'd effectively be getting up to $110k or so from UT? Seems like you'd make up that difference in CoL over the three years, or pretty close to it.

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Re: Texas Law c/o 2020

Postby brinicolec » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:12 am

Hikikomorist wrote:
brinicolec wrote:How much do you guys think a scholarship from BU will sway UT?

I'm still waiting on hearing about a scholarship, but based on last year's LSN stuff, I'm looking at probably $50-60k (60k being more optimistic) for my stats. Unfortunately, it's hard to know if these are negotiated scholarships or just the initial offer. Comparatively, BU has offered me $120k (over 75% tuition). Assuming that UT grants me in-state tuition and considering Boston's higher CoL, the couple of calculators I've plugged numbers into suggest BU would be cheaper. I know that BU is 20 and Texas is 15 but I'm confused about how exactly the peer schools work for this since after T14 they become quite regional... Even if Texas wouldn't match completely (cost-wise, not exact amount-wise), do you think they'd be willing to throw a little more money my way to lessen the blow?

Also, how much would you guys consider the lower CoL AFTER graduating when thinking about which school is ultimately "cheaper"? Boston prices seem to be up there around NYC prices and I'm wondering if it's a good idea to consider that after graduating, if I go to BU, I would either be working in Boston or NYC as compared to Houston/Dallas if I go to UT (plus, as people love to mention, the lower taxes in TX help money go farther).

So, you'd effectively be getting up to $110k or so from UT? Seems like you'd make up that difference in CoL over the three years, or pretty close to it.


Up to $110k in debt, you mean?

Edit: or are you saying that you think UT will give me more than I'm anticipating because of the offer I got from BU?


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