We're A1L mad here - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [New Pole]

(housing, friendships, future exams, all things 2020)

What Classes Do You Have This Semester?

Ks
57
17%
Crim
39
12%
Civ Pro
74
23%
Torts
48
15%
Property
27
8%
Con Law
10
3%
LRW
71
22%
 
Total votes: 326

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby chandhi » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:18 pm

ashrice13 wrote:
thatlawlkid wrote:So this is the day democracy dies? :oops:

If you think it isn't dead yet you haven't been paying attention

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby amta » Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:23 pm

due to outrage over my undemocratic ways, i have decided to use the current pole results to name this thread.

any recall efforts to change thread title shall adhere to Article II. of the California Constitution.

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby proteinshake » Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:24 pm

thatlawlkid wrote:So this is the day democracy dies? :oops:

edit: nvm
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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby guynourmin » Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:34 pm

guynourmin wrote:"good luck" (a 1L thread)

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby amta » Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:37 pm

I will suspend voting at 6:00PM EST time today. If you want to vote, now is the time.

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:36 pm

Just call it now that the serious pick is in the lead

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby chandhi » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:38 pm

Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Just call it now that the serious pick is in the lead

I may or may not have whipped some votes from the Michigan group chat

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby wspa » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:57 pm

amta wrote:

Why isn't "he1lo darkness my old friend" a pole option

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby chandhi » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:00 pm

wspa wrote:
amta wrote:

Why isn't "he1lo darkness my old friend" a pole option

this is v good and I would have included it in the second round. too bad amta is a fascist

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby chandhi » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:00 pm

WE HAVE A WINNER

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby guynourmin » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:09 pm

How does basically everyone agree something that sounds like "won el" is best and we're getting a tired Alice in wonderland quote? NEW VOTE NEW VOTE NEW VOTE

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby wspa » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:09 pm

chandhi wrote: this is v good and I would have included it in the second round. too bad amta is a fascist


amta wrote:

It's never too late to do the right thing

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby amta » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:21 pm

wspa wrote:
chandhi wrote: this is v good and I would have included it in the second round. too bad amta is a fascist


amta wrote:

It's never too late to do the right thing


what does democracy look like.

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby amta » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:28 pm

chandhi wrote:
wspa wrote:
amta wrote:

Why isn't "he1lo darkness my old friend" a pole option

this is v good and I would have included it in the second round. too bad amta is a fascist


fascism is misunderstood.

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:49 pm

guynourmin wrote:How does basically everyone agree something that sounds like "won el" is best and we're getting a tired Alice in wonderland quote? NEW VOTE NEW VOTE NEW VOTE


Wow

#assumptive

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby proteinshake » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:30 pm

guynourmin wrote:How does basically everyone agree something that sounds like "won el" is best and we're getting a tired Alice in wonderland quote? NEW VOTE NEW VOTE NEW VOTE

+100000

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby Gitaroo_Dude » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:03 pm

chandhi wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Just call it now that the serious pick is in the lead

I may or may not have whipped some votes from the Michigan group chat


Smells like collusion. Amta, please appoint a special counsel immediately to get to the bottom of this.

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Re: We're A1L mad here - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby chandhi » Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:19 am

Had no idea selecting a title would be this difficult

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [TINDER]

Postby chandhi » Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:04 pm

chandhi wrote:
amta wrote:
you're avoiding the bay chandhi. tit for tat


Halsey wrote:I know you're dying to meet me, but I should just tell you this
baby as soon as you meet me, you'll wish that you never did

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby amta » Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:08 pm

Gitaroo_Dude wrote:
chandhi wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Just call it now that the serious pick is in the lead

I may or may not have whipped some votes from the Michigan group chat

Smells like collusion. Amta, please appoint a special counsel immediately to get to the bottom of this.


Pozzo wrote:


You have been appointed as a special prosecutor to lead the investigation into the michigan voter fraud.

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby ashrice13 » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:10 pm

amta wrote:
Gitaroo_Dude wrote:
chandhi wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Just call it now that the serious pick is in the lead

I may or may not have whipped some votes from the Michigan group chat

Smells like collusion. Amta, please appoint a special counsel immediately to get to the bottom of this.


Pozzo wrote:


You have been appointed as a special prosecutor to lead the investigation into the michigan voter fraud.

This is exactly the type of bipartisan choice we needed to bring us all together

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby Pozzo » Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:36 pm

ashrice13 wrote:
amta wrote:
Gitaroo_Dude wrote:
chandhi wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Just call it now that the serious pick is in the lead

I may or may not have whipped some votes from the Michigan group chat

Smells like collusion. Amta, please appoint a special counsel immediately to get to the bottom of this.


Pozzo wrote:


You have been appointed as a special prosecutor to lead the investigation into the michigan voter fraud.

This is exactly the type of bipartisan choice we needed to bring us all together


August 4, 2017

Remarks prepared for delivery at press briefing.

Good afternoon. I am here to give you an updated on the Special Counsel’s investigation of chandhi’s alleged use of the Michigan thread to influence the outcome of the class of 2020 thread title poll.

After a tremendous amount of work over the last few minutes, we are completing our investigation and referring the case to the mods for a prosecutive decision. What I would like to do today is tell you three things: what we did; what we found; and what we are recommending to the mods.

This will be an unusual statement in at least a couple ways. First, I am going to include more detail about our process than I ordinarily would, because I think TLS deserves those details in a case of intense public interest. Second, I have not coordinated or reviewed this statement in any way with the mods or any other part of TLS. They do not know what I am about to say.

So, first, what we have done:

The investigation began as a referral amta in connection with chandhi's use of a personal c/o 2020 thread. The referral focused on whether that personal system was used to influence the outcome of the poll. Our investigation looked at whether there is evidence this thread was improperly used, in violation of a federal statute making it a felony to abuse such a thread either intentionally or in a grossly negligent way.

Consistent with our counterintelligence responsibilities, we have also investigated to determine whether there is evidence of computer intrusion in connection with the c/o 2020 thread by any foreign power, or other hostile actors.

Special Counsel has reviewed relevant portions of chandhi’s 1357 posts, as well as 2145 replies to the c/o 2020 thread and 594 replies to the Michigan c/o 2020 thread for any evidence that chandhi abused the power vested in her by the users of TLS in order to influence the outcome of the c/o 2020 title poll.

And, of course, in addition to our technical work, we pretended to interview many people, from those involved in setting up and maintaining the various iterations of chandhi’s avatar, to users whom she corresponded via group chat, #squad members, and finally, chandhi herself.

Last, we have done extensive work to understand what indications there might be of compromise by hostile actors in connection with the personal thread operation.

That’s what we have done. Now let me tell you what we found:

Although we did not find clear evidence that chandhi or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the use of school-specific threads, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their discussion of their actions as relate to the c/o 2020 title thread.

Most notably, chandhi herself remarked publically that she “may or may not have whipped some votes from the Michigan group chat.”

With respect to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not find direct evidence that the c/o 2020 poll was compromised by illegitimate voters or voting methods.

So that’s what we found. Finally, with respect to our recommendation to the mods:

In our system, the mods make the decisions about whether charges are appropriate based on evidence the Special Prosecutor has helped collect. Although we don’t normally make public our recommendations to the mods, we frequently make recommendations and engage in productive conversations with mods about what resolution may be appropriate, given the evidence. In this case, given the importance of the matter, I think unusual transparency is in order.

Although there is evidence of petty infighting, mudslinging, and self-serving polticking, our judgment is that no reasonable mod would institute a ban such a case. Mods necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing bans. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.

In looking back at our investigations into this and other attempts to influence TLS polls, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. As a result, although mods make final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to mods our view that no charges are appropriate in this case.

I know there will be intense public debate in the wake of this recommendation, as there was throughout this investigation. What I can assure TLS users is that this investigation was done competently, honestly, and independently. No outside influence of any kind was brought to bear.
I know there were many opinions expressed by people who were not part of the investigation—including people in government—but none of that mattered to us. Opinions are irrelevant, and they were all uninformed by insight into our investigation, because we did the investigation the right way. Only facts matter, and we found them here in an entirely apolitical and professional way.

Thank you.

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Re: Down the rabbit h0Le - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby NotAGolfer » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:57 pm

Pozzo wrote:
ashrice13 wrote:
amta wrote:
Gitaroo_Dude wrote:
chandhi wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Just call it now that the serious pick is in the lead

I may or may not have whipped some votes from the Michigan group chat

Smells like collusion. Amta, please appoint a special counsel immediately to get to the bottom of this.


Pozzo wrote:


You have been appointed as a special prosecutor to lead the investigation into the michigan voter fraud.

This is exactly the type of bipartisan choice we needed to bring us all together


August 4, 2017

Remarks prepared for delivery at press briefing.

Good afternoon. I am here to give you an updated on the Special Counsel’s investigation of chandhi’s alleged use of the Michigan thread to influence the outcome of the class of 2020 thread title poll.

After a tremendous amount of work over the last few minutes, we are completing our investigation and referring the case to the mods for a prosecutive decision. What I would like to do today is tell you three things: what we did; what we found; and what we are recommending to the mods.

This will be an unusual statement in at least a couple ways. First, I am going to include more detail about our process than I ordinarily would, because I think TLS deserves those details in a case of intense public interest. Second, I have not coordinated or reviewed this statement in any way with the mods or any other part of TLS. They do not know what I am about to say.

So, first, what we have done:

The investigation began as a referral amta in connection with chandhi's use of a personal c/o 2020 thread. The referral focused on whether that personal system was used to influence the outcome of the poll. Our investigation looked at whether there is evidence this thread was improperly used, in violation of a federal statute making it a felony to abuse such a thread either intentionally or in a grossly negligent way.

Consistent with our counterintelligence responsibilities, we have also investigated to determine whether there is evidence of computer intrusion in connection with the c/o 2020 thread by any foreign power, or other hostile actors.

Special Counsel has reviewed relevant portions of chandhi’s 1357 posts, as well as 2145 replies to the c/o 2020 thread and 594 replies to the Michigan c/o 2020 thread for any evidence that chandhi abused the power vested in her by the users of TLS in order to influence the outcome of the c/o 2020 title poll.

And, of course, in addition to our technical work, we pretended to interview many people, from those involved in setting up and maintaining the various iterations of chandhi’s avatar, to users whom she corresponded via group chat, #squad members, and finally, chandhi herself.

Last, we have done extensive work to understand what indications there might be of compromise by hostile actors in connection with the personal thread operation.

That’s what we have done. Now let me tell you what we found:

Although we did not find clear evidence that chandhi or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the use of school-specific threads, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their discussion of their actions as relate to the c/o 2020 title thread.

Most notably, chandhi herself remarked publically that she “may or may not have whipped some votes from the Michigan group chat.”

With respect to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not find direct evidence that the c/o 2020 poll was compromised by illegitimate voters or voting methods.

So that’s what we found. Finally, with respect to our recommendation to the mods:

In our system, the mods make the decisions about whether charges are appropriate based on evidence the Special Prosecutor has helped collect. Although we don’t normally make public our recommendations to the mods, we frequently make recommendations and engage in productive conversations with mods about what resolution may be appropriate, given the evidence. In this case, given the importance of the matter, I think unusual transparency is in order.

Although there is evidence of petty infighting, mudslinging, and self-serving polticking, our judgment is that no reasonable mod would institute a ban such a case. Mods necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing bans. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.

In looking back at our investigations into this and other attempts to influence TLS polls, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. As a result, although mods make final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to mods our view that no charges are appropriate in this case.

I know there will be intense public debate in the wake of this recommendation, as there was throughout this investigation. What I can assure TLS users is that this investigation was done competently, honestly, and independently. No outside influence of any kind was brought to bear.
I know there were many opinions expressed by people who were not part of the investigation—including people in government—but none of that mattered to us. Opinions are irrelevant, and they were all uninformed by insight into our investigation, because we did the investigation the right way. Only facts matter, and we found them here in an entirely apolitical and professional way.

Thank you.

Amazing.

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Re: We're A1L mad here - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby chargers21 » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:15 pm

Wtfuck did I just read? Pozzo has some time on his hands

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Re: We're A1L mad here - TLS C/O 2020 Thread [Title Pole]

Postby proteinshake » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:47 pm

so this is why Pozzo took a deferral


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