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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by tyrant_flycatcher » Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:07 am

runthetrap1990 wrote:
deepseapartners wrote:
smiles123 wrote:What clubs have outline banks? I didn't know this was something that existed until a few days ago when a 2L mentioned it. But now I think I'll be kicking myself come exam time if I don't join one.
Outline banks can be very useful, but remember that nearly all of the outlines you'll see, especially in the vetted outline banks like the joint BLSA/LALSA/NALSA bank, were written by students either from scratch or by taking an old outline and deleting everything except the skeleton. It's extremely unlikely you will do well, particularly as a 1L, unless you work very hard on your own to understand the morass of information in your casebooks and class notes, and the best way for most people to do this is through writing their own outlines.
I can confirm this. I had an old CALI's outline for Hillman Contracts First Semester and got pretty boned in his class. Any and all classes that I made my own outline in I ended up doing very well in. Who knew.

That being said, old outlines are certainly helpful as a point of comparison and organization.
+100 for comparison and organization. IMHO TCR is to find someone who had the same professor and did well and then use their outline to structure your own. There's no reason to go through the motions of creating a template when you can just delete all of their substantive text. Fill in the white space as the semester progresses, consulting the original outline -- and any others you come across -- to see whether you've missed anything. Later in the semester, take practice exams with classmates you like, think are intelligent, and trust to take practice exams seriously. When you review your answers, listen to what your classmates say and refine your outline further.

I'll also add that I think attack outlines are a total waste of time -- assuming your professor hasn't imposed a page limit. It sucks to wade through 20 pages of paper, but it sucks more not to have policy arguments and one- or two-sentence case summaries at your fingertips. And if you do your due diligence and take practice exams, you'll end up becoming so familiar with your outline that you won't have any trouble locating your section on specific performance or whatever.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by mt2165 » Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:43 pm

I almost exclusively use old outlines as a way to get through class, especially the ones where some old gunner literally wrote down everything the prof said, i then extract the important rules from that outline and then get busy working through the material on my own.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by Yeezus » Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:05 pm

Are there any upperclassmen who had Tebbe for Con Law?

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by Lavitz » Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:47 pm

Yeezus wrote:Are there any upperclassmen who had Tebbe for Con Law?
They exist.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by HatGuy1256 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:19 pm

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by TheatreofDreams » Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:47 pm

Jeez...

This is almost as bad as the guy who posted on the Facebook Group about our professors not going to Cornell Law at 3:18AM.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by HatGuy1256 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:52 pm

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by runthetrap1990 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:10 pm

HatGuy1256 wrote:
TheatreofDreams wrote:Jeez...

This is almost as bad as the guy who posted on the Facebook Group about our professors not going to Cornell Law at 3:18AM.
Not funny. Where are the Megan Foxes? At best girls are a 7. No wonder Fall Ball sucked.
if your remember fall ball then you did it wrong.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by Lavitz » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:11 pm

HatGuy1256 wrote:Not funny. Where are the Megan Foxes? At best girls are a 7. No wonder Fall Ball sucked.
Wut. If your Fall Ball sucked, it's probably because you don't know how to have fun and will end up striking out at AJF due to lack of social skills.
TheatreofDreams wrote:Jeez...

This is almost as bad as the guy who posted on the Facebook Group about our professors not going to Cornell Law at 3:18AM.
I'm hoping that it's the same guy and not that your class is full of people who post things like the above.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by betty_bojangles » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:51 pm

The selection of girls is better than the selection of guys in our class imo.

I haven't checked on here in so long, but memo procrastination has brought me back lol

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by betty_bojangles » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:52 pm

Also, on another note, is anyone in LALSA and know if I am ousted from the outline bank since I missed the outlining workshop?

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by Lavitz » Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:01 pm

betty_bojangles wrote:Also, on another note, is anyone in LALSA and know if I am ousted from the outline bank since I missed the outlining workshop?
No. Attendance was not even taken for that event. I just haven't gotten the lists of active members yet so I haven't been able to give anyone access. It'll be sometime this week. Probably a good thing you don't waste time perusing it when your memo is due anyway.

(Also, this totally outs me, but whatever.)

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by betty_bojangles » Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:04 pm

Lavitz wrote:
betty_bojangles wrote:Also, on another note, is anyone in LALSA and know if I am ousted from the outline bank since I missed the outlining workshop?
No. Attendance was not even taken for that event. I just haven't gotten the lists of active members yet so I haven't been able to give anyone access. It'll be sometime this week. Probably a good thing you don't waste time perusing it when your memo is due anyway.

(Also, this totally outs me, but whatever.)

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by Lavitz » Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:05 pm

Yeah, not exactly a secret.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by Triconderoga » Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:36 pm

Memo week + 8:45 classes makes for one heck of a party AM I RIGHT? I wasn't even trying to procrastinate

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by runthetrap1990 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:06 am

Triconderoga wrote:Memo week + 8:45 classes makes for one heck of a party AM I RIGHT? I wasn't even trying to procrastinate

This isn't even memo weeks final form.

That said, work hard on this one. I didn't my first memo week and it really kicked my ass.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by tyrant_flycatcher » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:15 pm

runthetrap1990 wrote:
Triconderoga wrote:Memo week + 8:45 classes makes for one heck of a party AM I RIGHT? I wasn't even trying to procrastinate

This isn't even memo weeks final form.

That said, work hard on this one. I didn't my first memo week and it really kicked my ass.
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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by HatGuy1256 » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:59 pm

betty_bojangles wrote:The selection of girls is better than the selection of guys in our class imo.

I haven't checked on here in so long, but memo procrastination has brought me back lol
Who do you think are the cutest 1Ls, guys and girls?

Also, Lavitz, just chill, I'm asking questions and looking for answers like anyone else here.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by Pragmatic Gun » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:59 am

HatGuy1256 wrote:
betty_bojangles wrote:The selection of girls is better than the selection of guys in our class imo.

I haven't checked on here in so long, but memo procrastination has brought me back lol
Who do you think are the cutest 1Ls, guys and girls?

Also, Lavitz, just chill, I'm asking questions and looking for answers like anyone else here.
....wut? Are we really doing this?

Anyway, does anyone have any notes for Tebbe's class? He's a fairly new prof and I'm looking to see if any 2Ls have notes for his class.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by Lavitz » Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:57 pm

Pragmatic Gun wrote:....wut? Are we really doing this?
No, because that would be about as dumb as this exchange.
Pragmatic Gun wrote:Anyway, does anyone have any notes for Tebbe's class? He's a fairly new prof and I'm looking to see if any 2Ls have notes for his class.
I have notes...for his First Amendment class.

But seriously, I don't think the 2017 TLSers from section D have been active on TLS recently. Better to just search for the section D group on fb, see if you know any of the 2Ls who were in it, and PM them to ask if they have notes.

Also the advice I got for Tebbe's First Amendment class from someone who took his ConLaw class in 2012 was to just know the case holdings. I'd also pay attention to any time he discusses inconsistencies in the law. Throw in Chemerinsky and you should be set for a 6 hour take home.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by Pragmatic Gun » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:09 pm

Lavitz wrote:
Pragmatic Gun wrote:....wut? Are we really doing this?
No, because that would be about as dumb as this exchange.
Pragmatic Gun wrote:Anyway, does anyone have any notes for Tebbe's class? He's a fairly new prof and I'm looking to see if any 2Ls have notes for his class.
I have notes...for his First Amendment class.

But seriously, I don't think the 2017 TLSers from section D have been active on TLS recently. Better to just search for the section D group on fb, see if you know any of the 2Ls who were in it, and PM them to ask if they have notes.

Also the advice I got for Tebbe's First Amendment class from someone who took his ConLaw class in 2012 was to just know the case holdings. I'd also pay attention to any time he discusses inconsistencies in the law. Throw in Chemerinsky and you should be set for a 6 hour take home.
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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by asterisk » Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:45 pm

Fall break's been great because I'm actually getting sleep this week, but it's also been really hard to motivate myself to *work*.. what's everyone been up to?

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by HatGuy1256 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:33 am

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

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Re: Cornell Class of 2018

Post by TheatreofDreams » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:51 am

HatGuy1256 wrote:Who was the student that received Wachtell offer? He sounds smart.

Also not sure why the girls with bfs are complaining about the 9 and 10s comment. One, it's true like the sky is blue. Two, they have boyfriends. Aren't they satisfied with them that they are up in arms about some stupid comment on TLS?
This guy is the worst/troll.

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