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TripTrip wrote:

Mack.Hambleton wrote:

TripTrip wrote:[

Do you know what percentage of of the class in 1L courses gets an LP?

Between 0% and 8%.

TripTrip wrote:

S.Lee2018 wrote:

TripTrip wrote:

ChemEng1642 wrote:omg in Section 1's Civ Pro class 25% of your grade is "quality of cold calls"

I would be very surprised if that ended up being the case. HLS profs aren't supposed to grade class participation in 1L courses.

May I know where this rule locates? I glanced over the Handbook of Academic Policies, but didn't find anything like this.

It would be nice if these types of rules were documented publicly. The best we have are private conversations with professors who divulged the types of standards they are held to.

We know there is a recommended curve for classes over 30 students (this means LPs) and that this curve is more strictly enforced during 1L. We also know that professors giving an exam generally must engage in blind grading, which is why you have a unique exam ID every term and are specifically disallowed from indicating on your exam who you are. There are exceptions to blind grading, most obviously when you write a paper for a class instead of taking an exam.

In classes over 60 students (even in 2L and 3L) professors don't grade participation because, quite simply, how the hell do you keep track of the participation of that many students? You can read about how this was a big issue five years ago. General consensus is they've clamped down on participation grading a bit since that fiasco. But, as mentioned above, we don't know for sure.

A lot of visiting professors for 1L classes like to say they grade participation to frighten students into participating. It's a common visiting theme. But you probably don't have any tenured professors telling students they grade cold calls when they don't because they're figured out it's just a mean thing to do. (And lying to students isn't a good way to establish credibility.)

In other words, I have nothing to reference. It's just conventional understanding. It could be wrong. It probably shouldn't affect how you prepare for class either way.

tonysoprano wrote:What login do we use for reading group sign up? Sorry if I'm missing something obvious here...

S.Lee2018 wrote:

TripTrip wrote:

S.Lee2018 wrote:

TripTrip wrote:

ChemEng1642 wrote:omg in Section 1's Civ Pro class 25% of your grade is "quality of cold calls"

I would be very surprised if that ended up being the case. HLS profs aren't supposed to grade class participation in 1L courses.

May I know where this rule locates? I glanced over the Handbook of Academic Policies, but didn't find anything like this.

It would be nice if these types of rules were documented publicly. The best we have are private conversations with professors who divulged the types of standards they are held to.

We know there is a recommended curve for classes over 30 students (this means LPs) and that this curve is more strictly enforced during 1L. We also know that professors giving an exam generally must engage in blind grading, which is why you have a unique exam ID every term and are specifically disallowed from indicating on your exam who you are. There are exceptions to blind grading, most obviously when you write a paper for a class instead of taking an exam.

In classes over 60 students (even in 2L and 3L) professors don't grade participation because, quite simply, how the hell do you keep track of the participation of that many students? You can read about how this was a big issue five years ago. General consensus is they've clamped down on participation grading a bit since that fiasco. But, as mentioned above, we don't know for sure.

A lot of visiting professors for 1L classes like to say they grade participation to frighten students into participating. It's a common visiting theme. But you probably don't have any tenured professors telling students they grade cold calls when they don't because they're figured out it's just a mean thing to do. (And lying to students isn't a good way to establish credibility.)

In other words, I have nothing to reference. It's just conventional understanding. It could be wrong. It probably shouldn't affect how you prepare for class either way.

Thanks for the clarification! Then I guess my professor just doesn't follow the crowd

TripTrip wrote:
In classes over 60 students (even in 2L and 3L) professors don't grade participation because, quite simply, how the hell do you keep track of the participation of that many students?

heythatslife wrote:Seems to me you've never taken a class with Jeannie Suk?

ChemEng1642 wrote:Anyone else pushing the panic button?

Mack.Hambleton wrote:Better for me since my electives are ez

downbeat14 wrote:

Mack.Hambleton wrote:Better for me since my electives are ez

Same. Really glad I listened to 2Ls and took anal meth (even though it's all review for me ).

radio1nowhere wrote:

downbeat14 wrote:

Mack.Hambleton wrote:Better for me since my electives are ez

Same. Really glad I listened to 2Ls and took anal meth (even though it's all review for me ).

I have brutal memories involving regressions from my undergrad Econometrics course; how intense is the stat in anal methods? Do you guys have to use the dark, twisted pit of despair that is STATA?

downbeat14 wrote:How's everyone liking second semester? Better, worse, same old? Easier or harder? More free time or less?