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2019 July California Bar
Hi all, didn't see an official thread for the upcoming July bar so thought I'd start one.
I'm a repeat taker working full-time (and if that doesn't make you feel better about your situation, the last time I took the CA bar was in 2012...yep, I know). I have a long list of reasons why it'll be that much harder for me, but I decided to burn my excuses and just dive right in. YOLO, right? I'm just beginning my climb up the bar prep mountain, spent the last month very casually re-acclimating myself to the topics. But after reading some racehorse Evidence questions today I promptly wondered if I've made a mistake and should withdraw from taking the bar altogether.
Anyway, looking forward to the discussion here. And to passing!
I'm a repeat taker working full-time (and if that doesn't make you feel better about your situation, the last time I took the CA bar was in 2012...yep, I know). I have a long list of reasons why it'll be that much harder for me, but I decided to burn my excuses and just dive right in. YOLO, right? I'm just beginning my climb up the bar prep mountain, spent the last month very casually re-acclimating myself to the topics. But after reading some racehorse Evidence questions today I promptly wondered if I've made a mistake and should withdraw from taking the bar altogether.
Anyway, looking forward to the discussion here. And to passing!
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Also wanted to add that I'm self-studying. Took barbri before my first try and the one-size-fits-all didn't work for me. I felt like a deer in headlights the entire time, going through the motions perfectly tho because I'm an ace at passive studying.
My roadblock has been the MBEs. Writing was a strength, my scaled written for F12 was 1489. I don't even want to say what my MBE score was because it hurts. I've always had this impractical fear of practice questions - even in law school - as if the stuff I learned/memorized would disappear. So in the past, I approached prep simply by rote memorizing EVERYTHING... I know why I didn't pass. I suck at preparation and have gotten by my entire life just winging it but I'm here to learn to change that.
For a general law refresher, I'm using:
barbri Conviser Mini J18/F19
For essays:
Mary Basick's Essay Exam Writing - great attack sheets, will probably use this to memorize later
Jeff Adachi's Bar Breaker (old) - great essay approach tips
Will be signing up for BarEssays
For MBE's:
S&T - started this last month and am at like 55%
PMBR's red and blue books (old)
Will be signing up for Adaptibar
For PT's:
PTs were a strength, got a 70 on one with no practice beforehand. But with the new 90-min format I'll have to do a few full PTs
I've given up on outlining. I love busywork, makes me feel like I'm being productive but I end up overwhelmed with like 38 outlines and then I feel compelled to ditch practice questions and start memorizing because of the sheer amount of material in front of me. I'm scared to death of not doing that because that's my comfort zone, but need to truly learn the law this time. Hoping that practice brings on some natural memorization, like some of you have said. And I suppose I'll focus on memorization 2 weeks before the bar when I plan to take some time off of work. Feel free to chime in if any of this could use tweaking.
My roadblock has been the MBEs. Writing was a strength, my scaled written for F12 was 1489. I don't even want to say what my MBE score was because it hurts. I've always had this impractical fear of practice questions - even in law school - as if the stuff I learned/memorized would disappear. So in the past, I approached prep simply by rote memorizing EVERYTHING... I know why I didn't pass. I suck at preparation and have gotten by my entire life just winging it but I'm here to learn to change that.
For a general law refresher, I'm using:
barbri Conviser Mini J18/F19
For essays:
Mary Basick's Essay Exam Writing - great attack sheets, will probably use this to memorize later
Jeff Adachi's Bar Breaker (old) - great essay approach tips
Will be signing up for BarEssays
For MBE's:
S&T - started this last month and am at like 55%
PMBR's red and blue books (old)
Will be signing up for Adaptibar
For PT's:
PTs were a strength, got a 70 on one with no practice beforehand. But with the new 90-min format I'll have to do a few full PTs
I've given up on outlining. I love busywork, makes me feel like I'm being productive but I end up overwhelmed with like 38 outlines and then I feel compelled to ditch practice questions and start memorizing because of the sheer amount of material in front of me. I'm scared to death of not doing that because that's my comfort zone, but need to truly learn the law this time. Hoping that practice brings on some natural memorization, like some of you have said. And I suppose I'll focus on memorization 2 weeks before the bar when I plan to take some time off of work. Feel free to chime in if any of this could use tweaking.
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I’m also a Cal Bar repeat taker. Last time I took the exam was in in 2010. Now that the exam is just 2 days, I’m more optimistic about passing this time.
For the MBE’s, you may want to consider getting the Critical Pass Flashcards. The cards are color-coded by subject with concise, well-written rules & elements. For me, these flashcards work better for MBE study than using outlines. Also, found that Adaptibar and S&T are helping to increase my practice scores.
For the MBE’s, you may want to consider getting the Critical Pass Flashcards. The cards are color-coded by subject with concise, well-written rules & elements. For me, these flashcards work better for MBE study than using outlines. Also, found that Adaptibar and S&T are helping to increase my practice scores.
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Good to know I’m not the only gap retaker. I’m not much of a flashcards person (I like to see everything on one page aka outlines) but I’ll check out Critical Pass. Have you noticed any noteworthy changes in law since your last exam?lawlady4999 wrote:I’m also a Cal Bar repeat taker. Last time I took the exam was in in 2010. Now that the exam is just 2 days, I’m more optimistic about passing this time.
For the MBE’s, you may want to consider getting the Critical Pass Flashcards. The cards are color-coded by subject with concise, well-written rules & elements. For me, these flashcards work better for MBE study than using outlines. Also, found that Adaptibar and S&T are helping to increase my practice scores.
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You might be overkill. I think BarEssays for the essays and Adaptibar for MBE will give you all you need. You don't need the other books for MBE and essays.nappingwolf wrote:Also wanted to add that I'm self-studying. Took barbri before my first try and the one-size-fits-all didn't work for me. I felt like a deer in headlights the entire time, going through the motions perfectly tho because I'm an ace at passive studying.
My roadblock has been the MBEs. Writing was a strength, my scaled written for F12 was 1489. I don't even want to say what my MBE score was because it hurts. I've always had this impractical fear of practice questions - even in law school - as if the stuff I learned/memorized would disappear. So in the past, I approached prep simply by rote memorizing EVERYTHING... I know why I didn't pass. I suck at preparation and have gotten by my entire life just winging it but I'm here to learn to change that.
For a general law refresher, I'm using:
barbri Conviser Mini J18/F19
For essays:
Mary Basick's Essay Exam Writing - great attack sheets, will probably use this to memorize later
Jeff Adachi's Bar Breaker (old) - great essay approach tips
Will be signing up for BarEssays
For MBE's:
S&T - started this last month and am at like 55%
PMBR's red and blue books (old)
Will be signing up for Adaptibar
For PT's:
PTs were a strength, got a 70 on one with no practice beforehand. But with the new 90-min format I'll have to do a few full PTs
I've given up on outlining. I love busywork, makes me feel like I'm being productive but I end up overwhelmed with like 38 outlines and then I feel compelled to ditch practice questions and start memorizing because of the sheer amount of material in front of me. I'm scared to death of not doing that because that's my comfort zone, but need to truly learn the law this time. Hoping that practice brings on some natural memorization, like some of you have said. And I suppose I'll focus on memorization 2 weeks before the bar when I plan to take some time off of work. Feel free to chime in if any of this could use tweaking.
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Mary Basick’s book is the bomb—I used it throughout law school and preparing for the July 2018 CBX, which I passed. I wrote out each practice essay to create “wide retrieval pathways” in my brain.
I relied on S&T for MBEs. The introduction to each subject pointing out tips and tricks and the explanations were critical to my success. I did not do a big box bar review program.
I analyzed the Point Sheets for each PT available for free download from the NCBE site to learn how to follow directions, spot the distinctions among the cases, and learn what the graders consider to be important.
Don’t study for the bar exam—PRACTICE for the bar exam.
I relied on S&T for MBEs. The introduction to each subject pointing out tips and tricks and the explanations were critical to my success. I did not do a big box bar review program.
I analyzed the Point Sheets for each PT available for free download from the NCBE site to learn how to follow directions, spot the distinctions among the cases, and learn what the graders consider to be important.
Don’t study for the bar exam—PRACTICE for the bar exam.
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Your MBE prep material looks really good. Note that there are actually 2 S&T books, the first is called Strategies and Tactics for the MBE, and the other is called Strategies and Tactics for the Finz Multi-State Method. Both are excellent and between these two books and Adaptibar (try to get through every Adaptibar question if possible) students should have all the practice questions that they need for the exam.
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Sounds about right. I struggled to pass the CA bar until I finally passed on my sixth attempt... on the Feb 2018 exam of all things. I used Basick's book + BarEssays for essays, S&T + Adaptibar for MBEs, and the NCBE website's free MPTs (along with the few PTs available on Cal Bar under the new format).
For those curious, I wrote a lengthy TLS post detailing my own experience, why I kept failing, what I did to change that, etc. It was awful hitting rock bottom over and over again, wondering if I'd ever climb out of the hole. It seemed like things would always get worse before they got better. Now, almost a year after finding out I passed (finally), I'm at a job that I couldn't be happier with. It's amazing how quickly things can change (for the better) when you felt like you were slowly sinking in quick sand for the longest time. Don't give up.
If interested, here's my post: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=298888
For those curious, I wrote a lengthy TLS post detailing my own experience, why I kept failing, what I did to change that, etc. It was awful hitting rock bottom over and over again, wondering if I'd ever climb out of the hole. It seemed like things would always get worse before they got better. Now, almost a year after finding out I passed (finally), I'm at a job that I couldn't be happier with. It's amazing how quickly things can change (for the better) when you felt like you were slowly sinking in quick sand for the longest time. Don't give up.
If interested, here's my post: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=298888
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I just took the bar for the second time, studied on my own, and used most of the same resources (Adaptibar/BarEssays/etc). I also used and memorized from an older conviser mini review that I bought off ebay.justanotheruser wrote:Sounds about right. I struggled to pass the CA bar until I finally passed on my sixth attempt... on the Feb 2018 exam of all things. I used Basick's book + BarEssays for essays, S&T + Adaptibar for MBEs, and the NCBE website's free MPTs (along with the few PTs available on Cal Bar under the new format).
For those curious, I wrote a lengthy TLS post detailing my own experience, why I kept failing, what I did to change that, etc. It was awful hitting rock bottom over and over again, wondering if I'd ever climb out of the hole. It seemed like things would always get worse before they got better. Now, almost a year after finding out I passed (finally), I'm at a job that I couldn't be happier with. It's amazing how quickly things can change (for the better) when you felt like you were slowly sinking in quick sand for the longest time. Don't give up.
If interested, here's my post: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=298888
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Hi! I'm an CA essay grader for a major bar prep company. We're trained by those who were past bar exam graders. Additionally, I also have experience with many of the supplements, including Critical Flash, Adaptibar, SmartBarPrep, Barbri conviser, (the one page supplement that I can't seem to remember the name off the top of my head), Emanuel MBEs (Tactics and Strats(?)), etc. etc.
Since I'm waiting for the bar study season to start in late May, I thought I'd offer some opinion/suggestion/advice here. If you have any questions (and there are no dumb ones), or need guidance, then ask and I'll offer my opinion.
I do ask that you quote this so I can see the notification and respond. Good luck studying folks!!!
Since I'm waiting for the bar study season to start in late May, I thought I'd offer some opinion/suggestion/advice here. If you have any questions (and there are no dumb ones), or need guidance, then ask and I'll offer my opinion.
I do ask that you quote this so I can see the notification and respond. Good luck studying folks!!!
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Hi folks, I am a mid-level associate who is moving to CA and taking the California bar in July. I passed the NY bar back in July 2016. I'm wondering if folks here generally think that whatever I did to prepare for NY should be sufficient to prepare for California (subject to some slight tweaks to account for the different exam structures and substantive topics that are tested)?
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I think you're even more well equipped that those who took it the first time. There are unconscious skills acquired while practicing as a lawyer (assuming litigation)--those are the abilities to spot issues and apply proper analysis. In fact, I think you'll find it easier this time around, albeit in a different (and arguably) more difficult state. Do watch out for the possibility of putting in less effort than the first time around though.FeeSimpleAbsolute wrote:Hi folks, I am a mid-level associate who is moving to CA and taking the California bar in July. I passed the NY bar back in July 2016. I'm wondering if folks here generally think that whatever I did to prepare for NY should be sufficient to prepare for California (subject to some slight tweaks to account for the different exam structures and substantive topics that are tested)?
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I don't know that I fully agree with the poster above. I think the bar exam is so different from the real practice of law and it's easy to fall into a trap (particularly with the PT) where you may overestimate your ability based on the fact that you have experience practicing. To me, they are different beasts entirely but maybe some people find a great deal of similarity.FeeSimpleAbsolute wrote:Hi folks, I am a mid-level associate who is moving to CA and taking the California bar in July. I passed the NY bar back in July 2016. I'm wondering if folks here generally think that whatever I did to prepare for NY should be sufficient to prepare for California (subject to some slight tweaks to account for the different exam structures and substantive topics that are tested)?
I don't know what you did your first time around, but I imagine your first decision is if you want to do the attorneys exam or the regular CBX. I don't think you're forced either way, but I can see the logic in taking the full exam since the MBE is somewhat more objective and as I remember it you have to score higher on the written portion if you only take the attorneys exam. Then again some people hate multiple choice tests.
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You are not prepared for California by passing New York, even with "slight tweaks." California is a different beast altogether. The essays are completely different and graded much harder. You should approach this as if it is your first time taking it.rcharter1978 wrote:I don't know that I fully agree with the poster above. I think the bar exam is so different from the real practice of law and it's easy to fall into a trap (particularly with the PT) where you may overestimate your ability based on the fact that you have experience practicing. To me, they are different beasts entirely but maybe some people find a great deal of similarity.FeeSimpleAbsolute wrote:Hi folks, I am a mid-level associate who is moving to CA and taking the California bar in July. I passed the NY bar back in July 2016. I'm wondering if folks here generally think that whatever I did to prepare for NY should be sufficient to prepare for California (subject to some slight tweaks to account for the different exam structures and substantive topics that are tested)?
I don't know what you did your first time around, but I imagine your first decision is if you want to do the attorneys exam or the regular CBX. I don't think you're forced either way, but I can see the logic in taking the full exam since the MBE is somewhat more objective and as I remember it you have to score higher on the written portion if you only take the attorneys exam. Then again some people hate multiple choice tests.
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I agree, the California Bar is different. I am from Texas and considered the Texas Bar relatively easy (at the time we had about an 80% pass rate). California essays are more difficult (look at the February 2019 Exam and the will/trust/conservator/marital property question for example). When I took the Texas exam, issues were easier to spot and write about.hastingsgal wrote:You are not prepared for California by passing New York, even with "slight tweaks." California is a different beast altogether. The essays are completely different and graded much harder. You should approach this as if it is your first time taking it.rcharter1978 wrote:I don't know that I fully agree with the poster above. I think the bar exam is so different from the real practice of law and it's easy to fall into a trap (particularly with the PT) where you may overestimate your ability based on the fact that you have experience practicing. To me, they are different beasts entirely but maybe some people find a great deal of similarity.FeeSimpleAbsolute wrote:Hi folks, I am a mid-level associate who is moving to CA and taking the California bar in July. I passed the NY bar back in July 2016. I'm wondering if folks here generally think that whatever I did to prepare for NY should be sufficient to prepare for California (subject to some slight tweaks to account for the different exam structures and substantive topics that are tested)?
I don't know what you did your first time around, but I imagine your first decision is if you want to do the attorneys exam or the regular CBX. I don't think you're forced either way, but I can see the logic in taking the full exam since the MBE is somewhat more objective and as I remember it you have to score higher on the written portion if you only take the attorneys exam. Then again some people hate multiple choice tests.
In California, the attorney exam (essay only) failure rate ranges from 50 to 70%. That is a lot of failures for people who already passed a bar. Like rcharter1978 says, the attorney exam is a bit skewed because of a scaling quirk that scales scores to what in recent years is a failing score. Attorneys who take the two day exam statistically fare better. Obviously, the MBE will be the same as New York, but California has a significantly higher cut score. The California essay portion requires a lot of memorization and rule recitation, but most topics are general law as opposed to California specific (except wills, trusts, marital property, evidence and procedure). You can be assured there will be at least one professional responsibility issue which have some California nuances (i.e referral fees are OK in Cal but prohibited elsewhere). To get a good feel for the essay topics and the likelihood of the topic being on the exam I found the chart here helpful. https://smartbarprep.com/california-frequency-analysis/ I know nothing about the quality of bar prep course on that page, but in making a study plan this is a good outline of topics likely to be covered.
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You are in the wrong thread or maybe this is spam. Obviously you did not take California because you wouldn't have known the score.FutureLawyer2 wrote:Passed the bar with a nice score! I cannot thank critical pass flashcards enough for their help. A must have !! The MBE section is an objective test and the only way to do well is by knowing the law really well. The flashcards do exactly that. The barbri program was a big waste of time in my opinion. Too much extras that make things seem more complicated than they need to be.
Let me explain why you need to purchase these flashcards. You must commit the elements of every testable item to memory. When you start studying you will notice that after a lengthy portion spent on torts, you will forget what you studied on evidence and vis-versa. The key or the solution is to have something which is quick to get to which you can pull at any moment and re-remember what the exact elements were. For example, larceny which is always tested is the following: a trespassory taking and carrying away of the property of another with the intent to permanently deprive another of that property. I know that definition, and always will, thanks to a flashcards that are ready-made and ready for bar examiners to use and pass the bar. The bar exam is a "bar" which is a minimum standards. For a small fee and a great solution, why not?
I shared a coupon code (10% off) for anyone who needs as well: plus free shipping.
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If you want to succeed on the MBE you will use proven study methodologies. Good luck! Of course some jurisdictions dont release exact scores for MBE, but I took NY ube and did well!
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So why are you posting in the California thread? Again seems like spam.FutureLawyer2 wrote:If you want to succeed on the MBE you will use proven study methodologies. Good luck! Of course some jurisdictions dont release exact scores for MBE, but I took NY ube and did well!
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I am planning on taking California bar exam.. My best friend just used critical pass for California and passed.hastingsgal wrote:So why are you posting in the California thread? Again seems like spam.FutureLawyer2 wrote:If you want to succeed on the MBE you will use proven study methodologies. Good luck! Of course some jurisdictions dont release exact scores for MBE, but I took NY ube and did well!
Good luck!
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Let’s do this! When is everyone planning on starting?
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As usual, I'll drop in some helpful info collected over the years.
Wondering where to start?
I've been hanging around these TLS bar threads since 2013 and have seen the most effective tools that helped people pass the California bar. I've updated the below for your enjoyment.
Recommended resources
These resources seem helpful to CA bar takers. Feel free to suggest your own!
Extremely detailed guide from a first-time passer of the 2018 CA July bar exam (40.7% pass rate) (forwarded to me by the author)
https://irenehong.co/2019/05/12/the-ult ... -bar-exam/
Previous TLS threads you can dig through for extra help
Wondering where to start?
I've been hanging around these TLS bar threads since 2013 and have seen the most effective tools that helped people pass the California bar. I've updated the below for your enjoyment.
Recommended resources
These resources seem helpful to CA bar takers. Feel free to suggest your own!
Extremely detailed guide from a first-time passer of the 2018 CA July bar exam (40.7% pass rate) (forwarded to me by the author)
https://irenehong.co/2019/05/12/the-ult ... -bar-exam/
Previous TLS threads you can dig through for extra help
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I asked a Q earlier, but I don't see it posted.chickenb00b wrote:Hi! I'm an CA essay grader for a major bar prep company. We're trained by those who were past bar exam graders. Additionally, I also have experience with many of the supplements, including Critical Flash, Adaptibar, SmartBarPrep, Barbri conviser, (the one page supplement that I can't seem to remember the name off the top of my head), Emanuel MBEs (Tactics and Strats(?)), etc. etc.
Since I'm waiting for the bar study season to start in late May, I thought I'd offer some opinion/suggestion/advice here. If you have any questions (and there are no dumb ones), or need guidance, then ask and I'll offer my opinion.
I do ask that you quote this so I can see the notification and respond. Good luck studying folks!!!
I'm reading essay answers from CA Bar site, Barbri and baressays.com. For Con Law Q with a call that says WHAT ARGUMENTS CAN P MAKE UNDER EP AND DP? The CA Bar and Barbri answers don't discuss Standing/Justiciability, 11th, 10th. Baressays answers-90% do for the same Q.
For Contracts Call: Can P recover from D? + the facts state P and D entered into a written K for...(all terms present) - CA Bar and Barbri responses-no formation or SOF discussion. Baressays answers 90% discuss formation + SOF for the same Q.
I believe a big part of the CA bar Q's are the limiting factors. They are testing discernment and materiality by limiting the call (sometimes very subtly).
That said, they suck you in to discussing non material items because the (juicy) facts beg for it, while the call doesn't. Is this your experience? I ask 1) because I think they mark you down for lack of discernment and the inability to recognize material v immaterial facts (per call) and 2) I run out of time and can't afford to address standing and formation (and other preliminary considerations) if not at issue. Thanks.
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I think standing and formation are standard for these types of questions almost all the time. Even if they aren't necessary for some of the questions, you certainly will not lose points for mentioning them. The barbri answers aren't real or graded, so hard to say whether they write the way the bar examiners want. The CA Bar answers are the best in the state, and sometimes the state wants you to see different approaches to the same question (I think).Pema wrote:I asked a Q earlier, but I don't see it posted.chickenb00b wrote:Hi! I'm an CA essay grader for a major bar prep company. We're trained by those who were past bar exam graders. Additionally, I also have experience with many of the supplements, including Critical Flash, Adaptibar, SmartBarPrep, Barbri conviser, (the one page supplement that I can't seem to remember the name off the top of my head), Emanuel MBEs (Tactics and Strats(?)), etc. etc.
Since I'm waiting for the bar study season to start in late May, I thought I'd offer some opinion/suggestion/advice here. If you have any questions (and there are no dumb ones), or need guidance, then ask and I'll offer my opinion.
I do ask that you quote this so I can see the notification and respond. Good luck studying folks!!!
I'm reading essay answers from CA Bar site, Barbri and baressays.com. For Con Law Q with a call that says WHAT ARGUMENTS CAN P MAKE UNDER EP AND DP? The CA Bar and Barbri answers don't discuss Standing/Justiciability, 11th, 10th. Baressays answers-90% do for the same Q.
For Contracts Call: Can P recover from D? + the facts state P and D entered into a written K for...(all terms present) - CA Bar and Barbri responses-no formation or SOF discussion. Baressays answers 90% discuss formation + SOF for the same Q.
I believe a big part of the CA bar Q's are the limiting factors. They are testing discernment and materiality by limiting the call (sometimes very subtly).
That said, they suck you in to discussing non material items because the (juicy) facts beg for it, while the call doesn't. Is this your experience? I ask 1) because I think they mark you down for lack of discernment and the inability to recognize material v immaterial facts (per call) and 2) I run out of time and can't afford to address standing and formation (and other preliminary considerations) if not at issue. Thanks.
BarEssays is usually the most reliable for thinking about something like this. When you see people write standing and formation and they got scores of 65+ you know that it may have helped and certainly did not hurt.
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If I have already purchase Adaptibar, is there a benefit to purchasing S&T, as well? (In conjunction with Barbri, CP flashcards, and BarEssays. 1st time bar taker). Thx
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Re: 2019 July California Bar
No, S&T are the same questions.265489164158 wrote:If I have already purchase Adaptibar, is there a benefit to purchasing S&T, as well? (In conjunction with Barbri, CP flashcards, and BarEssays. 1st time bar taker). Thx
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
Now there's a charge.
Just kidding ... it's still FREE!
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