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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by Raheemat1 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:55 pm

Cop2lawyerNYC wrote:Well, if anyone has the MPT analysis pls send me a private message and I can provide you with my email :D
Goodluck with this, before the "TLS police" delete your post.

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by Raheemat1 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:57 pm

NotYourAvocado wrote:
Raheemat1 wrote:Thanks to whoever reported my act of kindness to the admin. If you weren't interested in looking at the MEE analyses, you could have simply ignored the post. That's why I specifically requested for Individual emails of anyone interested.

Not everyone can be calm like "you."
I wish you all the best
Hm well not an IP lawyer here, but maybe there was also a bit of a copyright issue - kind of like uploading a copyright protected movie onto a torrent server? Again, not a specialist :roll:

I did not upload anything, but it's all good. Not my loss.

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by Raheemat1 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:01 pm

Findedeux wrote:
NotYourAvocado wrote:
Findedeux wrote:Let's not forget that this wasn't a free exam.

We already paid quite a bit of money for it.
Lol those two things are completely unrelated. From a legal point of view, that is.
I wasn't really being legal.

The NCBE isn't going to go out of its way to sue someone for this kind of disclosure and no one here really needs to worry about legal repercussions. So when you report this isn't not because its a legal problem, it's because it bothers you.
Exactly my point. Ignore the post if it bothers you. Moreover, the anaylses wasnt posted directly on the page.

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by NotYourAvocado » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:01 pm

sammyveritas wrote:
NotYourAvocado wrote:
Raheemat1 wrote:Thanks to whoever reported my act of kindness to the admin. If you weren't interested in looking at the MEE analyses, you could have simply ignored the post. That's why I specifically requested for Individual emails of anyone interested.

Not everyone can be calm like "you."
I wish you all the best
Hm well not an IP lawyer here, but maybe there was also a bit of a copyright issue - kind of like uploading a copyright protected movie onto a torrent server? Again, not a specialist :roll:
Thanks for this little distraction--- I see your point, but there is one exception in copyright law---fair use--if dissemination was not commercial (free), and was for educational, research, commentary, parody, etc., purposes, then this share would not likely violate copyright law
That's interesting - yeah, vaguely recall hearing about that. I wonder though what the limitations are. It would be strange if the application of this rule automatically denied all copyright protection to materials that are primarily educational (because I guess that is the exception you're referring to). And again, there must be a difference between posting the movie on a file share server (even for free) and showing the same in a classroom (probably without charging the kids...). Regardless of the genre ("educational" or not). But the lines may be blurry for sure...

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by NotYourAvocado » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:09 pm

Raheemat1 wrote:
Findedeux wrote:
NotYourAvocado wrote:
Findedeux wrote:Let's not forget that this wasn't a free exam.

We already paid quite a bit of money for it.
Lol those two things are completely unrelated. From a legal point of view, that is.
I wasn't really being legal.

The NCBE isn't going to go out of its way to sue someone for this kind of disclosure and no one here really needs to worry about legal repercussions. So when you report this isn't not because its a legal problem, it's because it bothers you.
Exactly my point. Ignore the post if it bothers you. Moreover, the anaylses wasnt posted directly on the page.
Totally understand your point. There is something to be said, though, about lawyers learning from early on how to not be bothered by things that we know are illegal / infringe a valid right...
(Getting a bit passive aggressive with the long wait lol and playing the devil's advocate)

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by pvnyc » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:37 pm

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by estefanchanning » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:44 pm

Well this was anticlimactic

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by PuzzleBubble » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:55 pm

sammyveritas wrote:
NotYourAvocado wrote:
Raheemat1 wrote:Thanks to whoever reported my act of kindness to the admin. If you weren't interested in looking at the MEE analyses, you could have simply ignored the post. That's why I specifically requested for Individual emails of anyone interested.

Not everyone can be calm like "you."
I wish you all the best
Hm well not an IP lawyer here, but maybe there was also a bit of a copyright issue - kind of like uploading a copyright protected movie onto a torrent server? Again, not a specialist :roll:
Thanks for this little distraction--- I see your point, but there is one exception in copyright law---fair use--if dissemination was not commercial (free), and was for educational, research, commentary, parody, etc., purposes, and didn't upload directly to site either, so not likely to take away from the market....so no commercial purpose, and no definite impact on market, then this share would not likely violate copyright law... :P
Ok, so copying and sharing the commercialized $200 casebook data with 100 friends does not give the authors a right to stop it even though the author loses opportunity to sell it to 100 students, as long as that person is just showing his generosity and not making any money out of it. Hmm, what is the difference between pirates and generosity then?

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by NotYourAvocado » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:07 pm

By the way, don't know if you ever came across this article from 2014. A bit dated, but made me think that there must be some technical link between closure of the address change option and release (or at least readiness) of results.
https://abovethelaw.com/2014/04/congrat ... r-passers/

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by Ohnt » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:26 am

Interesting!
NotYourAvocado wrote:By the way, don't know if you ever came across this article from 2014. A bit dated, but made me think that there must be some technical link between closure of the address change option and release (or at least readiness) of results.
https://abovethelaw.com/2014/04/congrat ... r-passers/

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by TheJuryMustDie » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:11 am

PuzzleBubble wrote:
sammyveritas wrote:
NotYourAvocado wrote:
Raheemat1 wrote:Thanks to whoever reported my act of kindness to the admin. If you weren't interested in looking at the MEE analyses, you could have simply ignored the post. That's why I specifically requested for Individual emails of anyone interested.

Not everyone can be calm like "you."
I wish you all the best
Hm well not an IP lawyer here, but maybe there was also a bit of a copyright issue - kind of like uploading a copyright protected movie onto a torrent server? Again, not a specialist :roll:
Thanks for this little distraction--- I see your point, but there is one exception in copyright law---fair use--if dissemination was not commercial (free), and was for educational, research, commentary, parody, etc., purposes, and didn't upload directly to site either, so not likely to take away from the market....so no commercial purpose, and no definite impact on market, then this share would not likely violate copyright law... :P
Ok, so copying and sharing the commercialized $200 casebook data with 100 friends does not give the authors a right to stop it even though the author loses opportunity to sell it to 100 students, as long as that person is just showing his generosity and not making any money out of it. Hmm, what is the difference between pirates and generosity then?
I'm unsure that's entirely analogous to the points being made here though. For a start, the NCBE is a not for profit organization whose main remit inter alia, is to determine through examination, whether candidates to the bar possess the requisite competence to qualify as attorneys. Bar candidates, especially those who have paid for the examinations, have a genuine interest and expectation to be able to review, re-appraise, compare or otherwise reanalyse their performances on a prior examination in comparison with the standards they were set against without needless let or hinderance. On the other hand, your friends do not have any legitimate expectation to freely access a "commercialized $200 casebook date" from a third party whose sole interest is profit making.

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by kris4842 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:12 am

can we end this topic about copyright...it wasn't on the Bar! can we please get back to the anxiety and stress?

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by Ayyyarianna » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:26 am

kris4842 wrote:can we end this topic about copyright...it wasn't on the Bar! can we please get back to the anxiety and stress?

Agreed! Still freaking out over here...

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by Cop2lawyerNYC » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:38 am

Ayyyarianna wrote:
kris4842 wrote:can we end this topic about copyright...it wasn't on the Bar! can we please get back to the anxiety and stress?

Agreed! Still freaking out over here...
Yes, and I’m still looking for the mpt analysis if anyone has it! :D

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by TheJuryMustDie » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:49 am

kris4842 wrote:can we end this topic about copyright...it wasn't on the Bar! can we please get back to the anxiety and stress?
You can blame that on results wait induced stress. Needed some distraction... :wink:

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by TheJuryMustDie » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:52 am

Btw, is anyone able to view the receipt of their last exam registration?

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by BrandName » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:58 am

TheJuryMustDie wrote:Btw, is anyone able to view the receipt of their last exam registration?
When I view receipt it just shows "Label" for each field.

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by lanieh05406 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:00 am

TheJuryMustDie wrote:Btw, is anyone able to view the receipt of their last exam registration?
I am. Are others not? :shock:

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by lanieh05406 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:01 am

BrandName wrote:
TheJuryMustDie wrote:Btw, is anyone able to view the receipt of their last exam registration?
When I view receipt it just shows "Label" for each field.
Same.

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by kris4842 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:05 am

TheJuryMustDie wrote:Btw, is anyone able to view the receipt of their last exam registration?

Mine only says label

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by NotYourAvocado » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:09 am

kris4842 wrote:
TheJuryMustDie wrote:Btw, is anyone able to view the receipt of their last exam registration?

Mine only says label
Same - "label". Been like that for a while (noticed last week)

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by TheJuryMustDie » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:20 am

That's quite interesting! When I failed last time out, I was able to view my receipt until result was released... Or so I think.

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by TheJuryMustDie » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:21 am

lanieh05406 wrote:
TheJuryMustDie wrote:Btw, is anyone able to view the receipt of their last exam registration?
I am. Are others not? :shock:
What did you see?

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by lanieh05406 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:23 am

TheJuryMustDie wrote:
lanieh05406 wrote:
TheJuryMustDie wrote:Btw, is anyone able to view the receipt of their last exam registration?
I am. Are others not? :shock:
What did you see?
Same as others. I don’t think I could view it until today but I can’t say for sure.

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Re: New York July 2018 Bar Exam Hangout Thread

Post by sunnys1d3up33 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:26 am

This entire process has been extremely annoying, frustrating and everything under the sun. I think it would've been easier to deal with if there was a definitive date like other states have. I mean, to say "October 22nd" can't be that hard, right? Other states do it. Even California announced a date and time. Excuse my rant.

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