THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby Lawworld19 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:29 pm

I watched all the analysis videos. I picked up a few exceptions I might not have if I just read that the dude brought to life. But overall idk if it was worth it. I watched it on double time.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby Lawworld19 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:31 pm

Just to preface tomorrow, anyone take mixed set 10? Taking first thing in the morning.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby jawaharlaw nehru » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:01 am

The mixed sets are all different. Some are easy, some are hard. Most are in between. Anecdotally, it seems like if you've been struggling, Themis will give you some easier sets. If you're cruising, they'll turn up the heat. But regardless, everyone's sets are different. The practice tests give you a better idea of how you stack up against your peers.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby Neilt001 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:14 am

Tala29 wrote:
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Lawworld19 wrote:
MGH1989 wrote:Anyone else still feel like they are having trouble memorizing? I'm not talking like obscure things, but not necessarily something simple. For instance, the elements of an injunction, or the elements for a class action. Its like I intuitively know these type of things (at least enough to answer a question about them on the MBE), but when I'm under the pressure of an essay I can't for the life of my recite shit to have a decent rule statement. I feel like come exam day I'm gonna be wording things incorrectly and just making up rules.



If you go through CP flashcards you will realize there is no way to memorize ever element. If some people can they deserve to pass and I deserve to fail. I am getting 60-70% correct on MBE mixed sets, graduated from a normal state law school, I should pass. If I don't, so be it. Better luck next time. I will work as hard as possible up until test day, but I really doubt we have to know every element cold to pass. I mean what do they expect us to do. live in a North Korean prison camp for three months?


Lol exactly.

And this, folks, is why it's about minimum competency and just getting that magical ~66%. You don't need to remember all the elements. That's the beauty of it. You just need to be in the ballpark, and know a little more than half. let's say you get only 3 of 5 elements? That's still a pass. Don't worry about the details and just do your best to get the general gist of it. Of course you can never remember all of it. That's the point. But most people still pass.

And as for essays, never underestimate the power of IRAC and decent bullshit. I nailed the MEE while basically inventing two of the essays cause I had no clue what they were asking. Doesn't matter.

Happy studying... :lol:



I am so HOPELESS at bullshitting :( So what if we don't know the answer at all? You just make it up completely?!


If you're in that position, you got no choice. On Feb 2018 we had a civ pro question about sanctions against a firm, its partner and the associate for failure to do something. Made up my answer completely. Also had a crim question about an offender's mental capacity to plead guilty. Also made that up.

The thing with bullshitting is this: it's not like you're just making up an answer in a vacuum. Rather, each fact in the question will point to something, so let the facts guide you. For instance, with respect to the offender's mental capacity to plead guilty, the question told us he didn't understand what a "trial" was. He couldn't remember various things. Etc. So you just use those facts and make up the rules. From these facts, tou can easily make up a rule like "An offender has to understand the nature of the charges against him, and must understand the meaning of guilt, etc". And then apply the facts. IRAC. Make it sound plausible. You'll pass.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby FuturePanhandler » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:16 am

Is the website down for anyone else?

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby Wendelsr » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:19 am

FuturePanhandler wrote:Is the website down for anyone else?


Yes. I keep getting messages saying the back end server is at capacity. Phone app is still working though if you are doing a video and want to download it.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby Neilt001 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:19 am

jawaharlaw nehru wrote:The mixed sets are all different. Some are easy, some are hard. Most are in between. Anecdotally, it seems like if you've been struggling, Themis will give you some easier sets. If you're cruising, they'll turn up the heat. But regardless, everyone's sets are different. The practice tests give you a better idea of how you stack up against your peers.


I think that's probably right. That's why they don't tell you how you compare to your peers in the mixed sets, but they do in the practice tests.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby lytieul0ng » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:20 am

Yeah website not working for me. Time to demand a full refund for breach.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby lanieh05406 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:20 am

Wendelsr wrote:
FuturePanhandler wrote:Is the website down for anyone else?


Yes. I keep getting messages saying the back end server is at capacity. Phone app is still working though if you are doing a video and want to download it.




Same.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby Lili8 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:21 am

This is bullshit. I can't access the site to do my planned review of MBE questions. At this stage, this should not be happening!

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby playwright » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:23 am

Website is working right now.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby SloppyHandwriting » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:16 am

Website is on and off for me.

Just interrupted me half way through a 50 question mixed set, so that was great.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby White Dwarf » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:30 am

Don't know if everyone has seen this already (or how useful it is), but based on trends, the MEE topics this year are expected to be: Civ. Pro, Constitutional Law, Corporations, Secured Transactions, Torts/Agency, and Trusts. This site has been really accurate over the last two tests (predicted 11/12).

https://www.excellenceinlawschool.com/july-2018-mee-predictions/

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby LawIsLyfe33 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:11 am

This whole process is amazing. I continue to feel good one day and horrible the next day, rinse and repeat.

I need to get this exam over with.

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Postby smile0751 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:34 am

LawIsLyfe33 wrote:This whole process is amazing. I continue to feel good one day and horrible the next day, rinse and repeat.

I need to get this exam over with.


SOOO much this. If law school didn't totally trash my mental health, this exam certainly is doing it.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby Lawworld19 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:39 am

Exactly how I feel. Just hit a 64% on mixed set 10. Got wrecked on my best topic of crim pro. Must be dishing me harder questions in that subject.

This test makes me feel bi polar. Up and down.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby Cambridge1988 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:55 am

White Dwarf wrote:Don't know if everyone has seen this already (or how useful it is), but based on trends, the MEE topics this year are expected to be: Civ. Pro, Constitutional Law, Corporations, Secured Transactions, Torts/Agency, and Trusts. This site has been really accurate over the last two tests (predicted 11/12).

https://www.excellenceinlawschool.com/july-2018-mee-predictions/


thanks for this! relatedly, does anyone know what a decent minimum length for the essays is? like is the character limit at all a target, or are most way below?

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby dabigchina » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:35 pm

Anybody over 75% completion and out of fucks to give about studying? I've lost all motivation.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby RecruiterMan » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:37 pm

dabigchina wrote:Anybody over 75% completion and out of fucks to give about studying? I've lost all motivation.

I'm only at 70% completion but find it hard to keep pouring energy into the MBE given that I've been hitting mid-70s consistently, but seeing how little I know about the MEE keeps the fear of failure alive

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby Lawworld19 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:02 pm

I am at 85% done. I am struggling to push hard as I can all day. I have to tho, I worked full time during the course so I prob didn't have the same "quality" study time as others. Gonne push it hard till last day.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby jcwest » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:03 pm

dabigchina wrote:Anybody over 75% completion and out of fucks to give about studying? I've lost all motivation.
What are you hitting on the mixed sets?

I'm hitting 65%-70% and still pretty uncomfortable. Studying an obnoxious amount.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby Lawworld19 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:10 pm

jcwest wrote:
dabigchina wrote:Anybody over 75% completion and out of fucks to give about studying? I've lost all motivation.
What are you hitting on the mixed sets?

I'm hitting 65%-70% and still pretty uncomfortable. Studying an obnoxious amount.


Same here, hit 62%-70% on mixed. Usually right at 65%. Very worried. I really want a 140+ so I have a little room on essays. Yes I am lucky my state has no MBE score to pass.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby titusandromedus » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:13 pm

Lawworld19 wrote:
jcwest wrote:
dabigchina wrote:Anybody over 75% completion and out of fucks to give about studying? I've lost all motivation.
What are you hitting on the mixed sets?

I'm hitting 65%-70% and still pretty uncomfortable. Studying an obnoxious amount.


Same here, hit 62%-70% on mixed. Usually right at 65%. Very worried. I really want a 140+ so I have a little room on essays. Yes I am lucky my state has no MBE score to pass.


I'm at 80% completion and hitting about 65% on the question sets and have lost all motivation. By like 1 each day I am just spent. I feel like at this point I'm not learning anything new, and I'm afraid if I push too hard I'll start to lose stuff I've already memorized. Taking tomorrow off and hoping it gives me some rejuvenation for the final stretch. Also in a no minimum MBE to pass jurisdiction but hoping for a 140+ so I can get away with mediocre essay scoring.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby Pajsa18 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:14 pm

White Dwarf wrote:Don't know if everyone has seen this already (or how useful it is), but based on trends, the MEE topics this year are expected to be: Civ. Pro, Constitutional Law, Corporations, Secured Transactions, Torts/Agency, and Trusts. This site has been really accurate over the last two tests (predicted 11/12).

https://www.excellenceinlawschool.com/july-2018-mee-predictions/



Wow! This is fantastic - thank you for posting!

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Postby dabigchina » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:14 pm

jcwest wrote:
dabigchina wrote:Anybody over 75% completion and out of fucks to give about studying? I've lost all motivation.
What are you hitting on the mixed sets?

I'm hitting 65%-70% and still pretty uncomfortable. Studying an obnoxious amount.

70-80%. I randomly dipped down to 68 on a couple of sets that were really hard.



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