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Hi Joe,
Can you calculate my score: Overall 146 and MBE 179.5?
THANKS!
Can you calculate my score: Overall 146 and MBE 179.5?
THANKS!
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hi, Joe what is the email address.??
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EncyclopediaOrange also scored a 179.5 in J18. You two are the highest MBE scores I have ever seen. Based on your scaled MBE score of 179.5, your estimated raw MBE score was about 170/175 correct (based on my estimate of the MBE scale). This means you answered about 97.1% of the graded MBE questions correctly. This places you in the 99.8% percentile for the MBE. This means that 0.2% of Jul examinees nationwide did better than you on the MBE based on your scaled MBE score of 179.5 (based on July national data for the past 7 years).Lwoodz wrote:Hi Joe,
Can you calculate my score: Overall 146 and MBE 179.5?
THANKS!
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I am glad too. I hope to improve it with each iteration after I receive follow-ups on the results.Electricella wrote:Happy to report that the estimator erred, and I passed.
lol
Electricella wrote:Thanks. Just did the estimator, and it showed I probably failed
So much for comforting myself)))
JoeSeperac wrote: If you are taking the exam in a non-UBE state, just convert your score to the expected UBE score (e.g. Texas 675/1000*400=270) and use that estimate. Most of the studies that I use are based on NY examinees, but I find that the data carries over to examinees from other states.
https://seperac.com/zcalc-passcalc.php
If you failed the exam and would like to see a score calculator for your state (AL, AR, CO, MA, etc), just send me your scores (or post them here) and I can make one. The score calculators are useful because you can see exactly how many points each answer contributed to your final score.
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JoeSeperac wrote:EncyclopediaOrange also scored a 179.5 in J18. You two are the highest MBE scores I have ever seen. Based on your scaled MBE score of 179.5, your estimated raw MBE score was about 170/175 correct (based on my estimate of the MBE scale). This means you answered about 97.1% of the graded MBE questions correctly. This places you in the 99.8% percentile for the MBE. This means that 0.2% of Jul examinees nationwide did better than you on the MBE based on your scaled MBE score of 179.5 (based on July national data for the past 7 years).Lwoodz wrote:Hi Joe,
Can you calculate my score: Overall 146 and MBE 179.5?
THANKS!
Thanks! Also just realized I put overall score 146. Jesus, I'm losing it. It was 346. I had taken your pass predictor and it had estimated 314 overall and 159 MBE, so I'm pretty happy with the results!
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joe @ seperac.comHoustonttt wrote:hi, Joe what is the email address.??
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What were your scores? If I can get some scores from a few GA examines, I can probably make a GA bar score calculator. I'm almost finished with new Hampshire if I can pick up a few more scores.mysojuli wrote:Would the " JoeSeperac" method work for taking the Georgia Bar?
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Sorry for the delayed follow up. Based on your scaled MBE score of 166.8, your estimated raw MBE score was about 152/175 correct (based on my estimate of the MBE scale). This means you answered about 86.9% of the graded MBE questions correctly. This places you in the 94.6% percentile for the MBE. This means that 5.4% of Jul examinees nationwide did better than you on the MBE based on your scaled MBE score of 166.8 (based on July national data for the past 7 years). Based on a total score of 324, this means your written score was 157.2, which would have placed you in the 81.9% percentile among examinees nationwide (meaning that 18.1% of examinees nationwide would have scored better than you on the MEE/MPT). That's a very solid MBE score for a foreign examinee. Based on the Barbri Sim score, I would have projected a 150 MBE so you out-performed.DK134 wrote:Hello Joe!
Thank you for the great job you do. I only recently discovered this forum, but I am impressed by the hard work you put in and your kindness. From reading your post, I have a general idea of my rankings, but I want to share my score with you for your records.
I am a foreign-educated first time taker. I got 324 in total and 166.8 in MBE. I studied only with Barbri and did all the assignments. I got 142 in the MBE simulation. I also memorized the Barbri key cards, which helped me a lot with the essays.
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Congratulations on passing the J18 exam. Based on your scaled MBE score of 142.2, your estimated raw MBE score was about 117/175 correct (based on my estimate of the MBE scale). This means you answered about 66.9% of the graded MBE questions correctly. This places you in the 49.4% percentile for the MBE. This means that 50.6% of Jul examinees nationwide did better than you on the MBE based on your scaled MBE score of 142.2 (based on July national data for the past 7 years).Great45 wrote:Hey Joe! Thank you for all the information you provide on this site! Can you possibly calculate my numbers?
My total UBE score was 282. I scored 142.2 on the MBE. Thank you!
Based on a total score of 282, this means your written score was 139.8, which would have placed you in the 43.9% percentile among examinees nationwide (meaning that 56.1% of examinees nationwide would have scored better than you on the MEE/MPT).
On the MBE, examinees usually score close to their MBE practice scores, especially if they have done a large number of MBE questions in practice. How many questions did you answer in practice, from what sources (e.g. Barbri, Kaplan, Adaptibar, NCBE) and what was your overall % correct?
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First, take the estimate with a grain of salt. It is based on a couple NYBOLE and NCBE studies and then I adjust it as I collect data from examinees. However, I find that the demographic estimates usually carry over to other states so you can probably receive a fair estimate of your odds of passing CA:diatribe wrote:JoeSeperac wrote:Electricella wrote:Hi Joe,
I am not sure I understand how to use the calculator for non-UBE states. For instance, why is Texas 675/1000*400 and how would I know which numbers to input for other states? (Cali here)
https://seperac.com/zcalc-passcalc.php
If you choose California from the choice list, you will see 288 as the passing score. This is the 1440/2000 CA passing score converted to the UBE 400 scale. So if you receive an estimate of 20 points or higher than 288 (e.g. 320), there is statistically a good chance you will pass CA.
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I actually ment like, if I buy the subscription package and study using your Master Outline and prioritized MBE rules, will I get the same success as those who are in a ube state, since it appears your package is mostly for those in ube states.JoeSeperac wrote:What were your scores? If I can get some scores from a few GA examines, I can probably make a GA bar score calculator. I'm almost finished with new Hampshire if I can pick up a few more scores.mysojuli wrote:Would the " JoeSeperac" method work for taking the Georgia Bar?
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Hi Joe,
I am yet another requester of your calculations for my scores!
My total UBE score was 304, and my scaled MBE score was 146.
Thanks!
I am yet another requester of your calculations for my scores!
My total UBE score was 304, and my scaled MBE score was 146.
Thanks!
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Hey Joe,
My MBE was 155 in Texas. Thanks!
My MBE was 155 in Texas. Thanks!
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Thank you. I'm not sure if you need data for Texas, but I'll happily provide it.
JoeSeperac wrote:Electricella wrote:Happy to report that the estimator erred, and I passed.
lol
JoeSeperac wrote: I am glad too. I hope to improve it with each iteration after I receive follow-ups on the results.
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149.9 MBE, Texas
149.9 MBE, Texas
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Hey Joe! Thank you for all the information you provide on this site! Can you possibly calculate my numbers?
My total UBE score was 347. I scored 164.1 on the MBE and 182.9 on the MEE/MPT. Thank you!
This was for the NY UBE
My total UBE score was 347. I scored 164.1 on the MBE and 182.9 on the MEE/MPT. Thank you!
This was for the NY UBE
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Hey Joe,
Could you do mine for J18? Total 312 and MBE 153.1.
I was foreign educated so let me know if you want some stats or info. Thanks!
Could you do mine for J18? Total 312 and MBE 153.1.
I was foreign educated so let me know if you want some stats or info. Thanks!
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I ended up up using Themis almost exclusively for both MBE and essay prep. I completed about 1,800 questions from the Themis question bank. Towards the end of the course, I was scoring between 65 - 70% correct in mixed practice sets.JoeSeperac wrote:Congratulations on passing the J18 exam. Based on your scaled MBE score of 142.2, your estimated raw MBE score was about 117/175 correct (based on my estimate of the MBE scale). This means you answered about 66.9% of the graded MBE questions correctly. This places you in the 49.4% percentile for the MBE. This means that 50.6% of Jul examinees nationwide did better than you on the MBE based on your scaled MBE score of 142.2 (based on July national data for the past 7 years).Great45 wrote:Hey Joe! Thank you for all the information you provide on this site! Can you possibly calculate my numbers?
My total UBE score was 282. I scored 142.2 on the MBE. Thank you!
Based on a total score of 282, this means your written score was 139.8, which would have placed you in the 43.9% percentile among examinees nationwide (meaning that 56.1% of examinees nationwide would have scored better than you on the MEE/MPT).
On the MBE, examinees usually score close to their MBE practice scores, especially if they have done a large number of MBE questions in practice. How many questions did you answer in practice, from what sources (e.g. Barbri, Kaplan, Adaptibar, NCBE) and what was your overall % correct?
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Sorry for the delayed follow up and congratulations on passing the J18 exam. Based on your scaled MBE score of 146, your estimated raw MBE score was about 122/175 correct (based on my estimate of the MBE scale). This means you answered about 69.7% of the graded MBE questions correctly. This places you in the 58.2% percentile for the MBE. This means that 41.8% of Jul examinees nationwide did better than you on the MBE based on your scaled MBE score of 146 (based on July national data for the past 7 years).mo_brien wrote:Hi Joe,
I am yet another requester of your calculations for my scores!
My total UBE score was 304, and my scaled MBE score was 146.
Thanks!
Based on a total score of 304, this means your written score was 158, which would have placed you in the 83.2% percentile among examinees nationwide (meaning that 16.8% of examinees nationwide would have scored better than you on the MEE/MPT). Good job!
I am going to guess you did less than 1,000 MBE questions in practice. Let me know.
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Congratulations on passing the J18 exam. Based on your scaled MBE score of 155, your estimated raw MBE score was about 135/175 correct. This means you answered about 77.1% of the graded MBE questions correctly. This places you in the 78.2% percentile for the MBE. This means that 21.8% of Jul examinees nationwide did better than you on the MBE based on your scaled MBE score of 155 (based on July national data for the past 7 years).BasilHallward wrote:Hey Joe,
My MBE was 155 in Texas. Thanks!
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[quote="Electricella"]Thank you. I'm not sure if you need data for Texas, but I'll happily provide it.
If you email me at joe @ seperac.com with your MBE and total score, I will update your submission from the UBE Estimator form. Once I get another batch of scores I tweak the calculator. Thanks!
If you email me at joe @ seperac.com with your MBE and total score, I will update your submission from the UBE Estimator form. Once I get another batch of scores I tweak the calculator. Thanks!
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Based on your scaled MBE score of 149.9, your estimated raw MBE score was about 128/175 correct (based on my estimate of the MBE scale). This means you answered about 73.1% of the graded MBE questions correctly. This places you in the 67.4% percentile for the MBE. This means that 32.6% of Jul examinees nationwide did better than you on the MBE based on your scaled MBE score of 149.9 (based on July national data for the past 7 years). On the MBE, examinees usually score close to their MBE practice scores, especially if they have done a large number of MBE questions in practice. How many questions did you answer in practice, from what sources (e.g. Barbri, Kaplan, Adaptibar, NCBE) and what was your overall % correct?RedPonies2018 wrote:Joe-
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Great scores! Based on your scaled MBE score of 164.1, your estimated raw MBE score was about 148/175 correct (based on my estimate of the MBE scale). This means you answered about 84.6% of the graded MBE questions correctly. This places you in the 92% percentile for the MBE. This means that 8% of Jul examinees nationwide did better than you on the MBE based on your scaled MBE score of 164.1 (based on July national data for the past 7 years).HopingIPass2929 wrote:Hey Joe! Thank you for all the information you provide on this site! Can you possibly calculate my numbers?
My total UBE score was 347. I scored 164.1 on the MBE and 182.9 on the MEE/MPT. Thank you!
This was for the NY UBE
Based on a total score of 347, this means your written score was 182.9, which would have placed you in the 99.9% percentile among examinees nationwide (meaning that 0.1% of examinees nationwide would have scored better than you on the MEE/MPT).
If you don't mind one quick question, if you had to attribute your MEE/MPT score to just one thing, what would that be? I ask this to see if there is any commonality in answers among similarly situated examinees.
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Congratulations on passing and those were very good scores for being foreign educated. Based on your scaled MBE score of 153.1, your estimated raw MBE score was about 133/175 correct (based on my estimate of the MBE scale). This means you answered about 76% of the graded MBE questions correctly. This places you in the 74.2% percentile for the MBE. This means that 25.8% of Jul examinees nationwide did better than you on the MBE based on your scaled MBE score of 153.1 (based on July national data for the past 7 years).whixer wrote:Hey Joe,
Could you do mine for J18? Total 312 and MBE 153.1.
I was foreign educated so let me know if you want some stats or info. Thanks!
Based on a total score of 318, this means your written score was 164.9, which would have placed you in the 93% percentile among examinees nationwide (meaning that 7% of examinees nationwide would have scored better than you on the MEE/MPT).
If you had to attribute your passing to just one thing, what would that be?
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Thanks. Interestingly, I have a very simple formula that predicts someones MBE score based on their practice exam scores, their overall % correct and their % correct in the last two weeks. So with your 118/200, 124/200 and 67% correct in last two weeks, I came up with 142.4 lol.Great45 wrote:I ended up up using Themis almost exclusively for both MBE and essay prep. I completed about 1,800 questions from the Themis question bank. Towards the end of the course, I was scoring between 65 - 70% correct in mixed practice sets.
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