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Only getting 50% on themis MBE...?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:31 pm
by Lawworld19
Getting 50-55% on mbe for contracts and property so far. Anyone have similar experience?

Re: Only getting 50% on themis MBE...?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:41 pm
by iplaw4me2
Yes. Absolutely. Property I could accept doing poorly on because it's a hard topic, but Contracts I aced in law school and the rules are somewhat intuitive. On the other hand, on the recent February exam I was 3.5 years out of law school so apparently I forgot a lot of things.

I will say this - when I took the 2014 bar in California I was dominating those subjects by the end, but only after 10 weeks of intensive study. This time I only took 2 weeks off work before the UBE and I never did bring up my contract and property scores to more than low 60's, mainly because I didn't put in the time to memorize all the rules. My final MBE score on this UBE was 147.

You will get there. Just make sure you're planning to do 2,000 or so of the Themis MBE's, using the Themis tools to repeatedly go back over the questions you missed, and READ STRATEGIES AND TACTICS. That's a really helpful book. At least read the intros to each chapter if nothing else. That advice in that book alone is worth a few bonus points on each topic on the exam. It won't change your performance dramatically but definitely a few points here and there you would miss otherwise.

Re: Only getting 50% on themis MBE...?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:19 pm
by Beanboi
At the beginning I was scoring around that. By bar exam time I was scoring 75-80%. I used Themis and passed. I did 100% of the course.

Re: Only getting 50% on themis MBE...?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:53 pm
by Lawworld19
iplaw4me2 wrote:Yes. Absolutely. Property I could accept doing poorly on because it's a hard topic, but Contracts I aced in law school and the rules are somewhat intuitive. On the other hand, on the recent February exam I was 3.5 years out of law school so apparently I forgot a lot of things.

I will say this - when I took the 2014 bar in California I was dominating those subjects by the end, but only after 10 weeks of intensive study. This time I only took 2 weeks off work before the UBE and I never did bring up my contract and property scores to more than low 60's, mainly because I didn't put in the time to memorize all the rules. My final MBE score on this UBE was 147.

You will get there. Just make sure you're planning to do 2,000 or so of the Themis MBE's, using the Themis tools to repeatedly go back over the questions you missed, and READ STRATEGIES AND TACTICS. That's a really helpful book. At least read the intros to each chapter if nothing else. That advice in that book alone is worth a few bonus points on each topic on the exam. It won't change your performance dramatically but definitely a few points here and there you would miss otherwise.


I appreciate the response. I have heard from a few people now that S + T is well worth the $. I will get on that ASAP.

Re: Only getting 50% on themis MBE...?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:55 pm
by Lawworld19
iplaw4me2 wrote:Yes. Absolutely. Property I could accept doing poorly on because it's a hard topic, but Contracts I aced in law school and the rules are somewhat intuitive. On the other hand, on the recent February exam I was 3.5 years out of law school so apparently I forgot a lot of things.

I will say this - when I took the 2014 bar in California I was dominating those subjects by the end, but only after 10 weeks of intensive study. This time I only took 2 weeks off work before the UBE and I never did bring up my contract and property scores to more than low 60's, mainly because I didn't put in the time to memorize all the rules. My final MBE score on this UBE was 147.

You will get there. Just make sure you're planning to do 2,000 or so of the Themis MBE's, using the Themis tools to repeatedly go back over the questions you missed, and READ STRATEGIES AND TACTICS. That's a really helpful book. At least read the intros to each chapter if nothing else. That advice in that book alone is worth a few bonus points on each topic on the exam. It won't change your performance dramatically but definitely a few points here and there you would miss otherwise.


I am not in an UBE jurisdiction so I am unfamiliar with the scoring. Don't you need a 260 in any state to pass? Did you pass the UBE?

Re: Only getting 50% on themis MBE...?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:12 pm
by iplaw4me2
Lawworld19 wrote:
iplaw4me2 wrote:Yes. Absolutely. Property I could accept doing poorly on because it's a hard topic, but Contracts I aced in law school and the rules are somewhat intuitive. On the other hand, on the recent February exam I was 3.5 years out of law school so apparently I forgot a lot of things.

I will say this - when I took the 2014 bar in California I was dominating those subjects by the end, but only after 10 weeks of intensive study. This time I only took 2 weeks off work before the UBE and I never did bring up my contract and property scores to more than low 60's, mainly because I didn't put in the time to memorize all the rules. My final MBE score on this UBE was 147.

You will get there. Just make sure you're planning to do 2,000 or so of the Themis MBE's, using the Themis tools to repeatedly go back over the questions you missed, and READ STRATEGIES AND TACTICS. That's a really helpful book. At least read the intros to each chapter if nothing else. That advice in that book alone is worth a few bonus points on each topic on the exam. It won't change your performance dramatically but definitely a few points here and there you would miss otherwise.


I am not in an UBE jurisdiction so I am unfamiliar with the scoring. Don't you need a 260 in any state to pass? Did you pass the UBE?


Yeah, I got bonus points for completing the essays as well (added 154 more points). :D :D

Re: Only getting 50% on themis MBE...?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:01 am
by Lawworld19
iplaw4me2 wrote:
Lawworld19 wrote:
iplaw4me2 wrote:Yes. Absolutely. Property I could accept doing poorly on because it's a hard topic, but Contracts I aced in law school and the rules are somewhat intuitive. On the other hand, on the recent February exam I was 3.5 years out of law school so apparently I forgot a lot of things.

I will say this - when I took the 2014 bar in California I was dominating those subjects by the end, but only after 10 weeks of intensive study. This time I only took 2 weeks off work before the UBE and I never did bring up my contract and property scores to more than low 60's, mainly because I didn't put in the time to memorize all the rules. My final MBE score on this UBE was 147.

You will get there. Just make sure you're planning to do 2,000 or so of the Themis MBE's, using the Themis tools to repeatedly go back over the questions you missed, and READ STRATEGIES AND TACTICS. That's a really helpful book. At least read the intros to each chapter if nothing else. That advice in that book alone is worth a few bonus points on each topic on the exam. It won't change your performance dramatically but definitely a few points here and there you would miss otherwise.


I am not in an UBE jurisdiction so I am unfamiliar with the scoring. Don't you need a 260 in any state to pass? Did you pass the UBE?


Yeah, I got bonus points for completing the essays as well (added 154 more points). :D :D


haha, sorry I was confused.