Barbri's Early Start Program
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:29 pm
I'm a little confused about how to use Barbri's "Early Start"
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Do the latter: read the outline for one topic at a time (I did not bother with the mini-outline and went straight to the CMR, but I can see an argument for using the mega outline this early), then watch videos, and then do MPQs. Whatever did not stick the first time will show up as missed questions and that is how you know what to go back and review.ipse dixit wrote:Specifically, should I work through AMP for all of the topics first, and then watch videos and work through the MBE practice for all of the topics, or should I just focus on one topic at a time, doing AMP, videos, and MPQ questions? My intuition says I should do the latter, but the way the website is arranged makes me question whether this is the right approach.
What's everyone else doing?
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Ugh... the problem is that Barbri has not made the outlines available for shipping yet. The instructions in early start say just to jump in and do the AMP questions. It feels weird to answer questions before doing any kind of preparation.RCinDNA wrote:Do the latter: read the outline for one topic at a time (I did not bother with the mini-outline and went straight to the CMR, but I can see an argument for using the mega outline this early), then watch videos, and then do MPQs. Whatever did not stick the first time will show up as missed questions and that is how you know what to go back and review.ipse dixit wrote:Specifically, should I work through AMP for all of the topics first, and then watch videos and work through the MBE practice for all of the topics, or should I just focus on one topic at a time, doing AMP, videos, and MPQ questions? My intuition says I should do the latter, but the way the website is arranged makes me question whether this is the right approach.
What's everyone else doing?
(apologies for not including this in the first post; I inadvertently submitted it before I finished the message!!)
Did they not even send mini-outlines specifically for the Early Start Program?ipse dixit wrote:Ugh... the problem is that Barbri has not made the outlines available for shipping yet. The instructions in early start say just to jump in and do the AMP questions. It feels weird to answer questions before doing any kind of preparation.RCinDNA wrote:Do the latter: read the outline for one topic at a time (I did not bother with the mini-outline and went straight to the CMR, but I can see an argument for using the mega outline this early), then watch videos, and then do MPQs. Whatever did not stick the first time will show up as missed questions and that is how you know what to go back and review.ipse dixit wrote:Specifically, should I work through AMP for all of the topics first, and then watch videos and work through the MBE practice for all of the topics, or should I just focus on one topic at a time, doing AMP, videos, and MPQ questions? My intuition says I should do the latter, but the way the website is arranged makes me question whether this is the right approach.
What's everyone else doing?
(apologies for not including this in the first post; I inadvertently submitted it before I finished the message!!)
I mean, you could just jump in and do AMP questions but doing them blind does not seem that useful.ipse dixit wrote:Ugh... the problem is that Barbri has not made the outlines available for shipping yet. The instructions in early start say just to jump in and do the AMP questions. It feels weird to answer questions before doing any kind of preparation.RCinDNA wrote:Do the latter: read the outline for one topic at a time (I did not bother with the mini-outline and went straight to the CMR, but I can see an argument for using the mega outline this early), then watch videos, and then do MPQs. Whatever did not stick the first time will show up as missed questions and that is how you know what to go back and review.ipse dixit wrote:Specifically, should I work through AMP for all of the topics first, and then watch videos and work through the MBE practice for all of the topics, or should I just focus on one topic at a time, doing AMP, videos, and MPQ questions? My intuition says I should do the latter, but the way the website is arranged makes me question whether this is the right approach.
What's everyone else doing?
(apologies for not including this in the first post; I inadvertently submitted it before I finished the message!!)
Here's another question, when you guys go through the outline and then watch the lecture and do the practice questions, do you then have the elements of the law memorized (well enough that you could write them out in the Essay portion of the exam)?RCinDNA wrote:
Do the latter: read the outline for one topic at a time (I did not bother with the mini-outline and went straight to the CMR, but I can see an argument for using the mega outline this early), then watch videos, and then do MPQs. Whatever did not stick the first time will show up as missed questions and that is how you know what to go back and review.
How do you have the outlines already? Barbri hasn't sent me anything other than the flash card things.mrlawguy wrote:how long does it take you guys to get through a subject (e.g., contracts) in the outlines?
it has taken me around a week per topic between the subject and my law school class work, but i'm concerned i'm just slow because i've heard others say they got through the entire convisor in a week.
You will not have that level of mastery for a while. Barbri does a good job of easing you into the essay writing process and you really shouldn't be fretting it. Looking over the early start, I only see one essay available. I'd study any notes you have on the subject (con law for me) and then just do it open book and untimed. You will get a feel for what the questions look like and what to expect. You will have more than enough practice essays during the regular course.mrlawguy wrote:Here's another question, when you guys go through the outline and then watch the lecture and do the practice questions, do you then have the elements of the law memorized (well enough that you could write them out in the Essay portion of the exam)?
patientlyimpatient wrote:How do you have the outlines already? Barbri hasn't sent me anything other than the flash card things.mrlawguy wrote:how long does it take you guys to get through a subject (e.g., contracts) in the outlines?
it has taken me around a week per topic between the subject and my law school class work, but i'm concerned i'm just slow because i've heard others say they got through the entire convisor in a week.
To directly answer your question: I wouldn't worry about it. One, everyone is going to go about it at their own pace. You are starting early, so you shouldn't worry at all about how much you're getting through. After graduation you won't have any classes to worry about and you can dedicate your time exclusively to studying.
Two, anyone that says they have gotten through all the outlines in a week is not retaining any of the information. Even the short outlines are dense as hell and there is no way you can internalize all of it in a week.
You will not have that level of mastery for a while. Barbri does a good job of easing you into the essay writing process and you really shouldn't be fretting it. Looking over the early start, I only see one essay available. I'd study any notes you have on the subject (con law for me) and then just do it open book and untimed. You will get a feel for what the questions look like and what to expect. You will have more than enough practice essays during the regular course.mrlawguy wrote:Here's another question, when you guys go through the outline and then watch the lecture and do the practice questions, do you then have the elements of the law memorized (well enough that you could write them out in the Essay portion of the exam)?
I'm going to guess you're taking the UBE because my account still says shipping isn't available.Nicolena. wrote:Barbri sent me the email that i can have my books shipped to me a few days ago. You have to request them to be shipped though. You may want to check your account.
Yes. I’m taking the ube.patientlyimpatient wrote:I'm going to guess you're taking the UBE because my account still says shipping isn't available.Nicolena. wrote:Barbri sent me the email that i can have my books shipped to me a few days ago. You have to request them to be shipped though. You may want to check your account.
I took the UBE and passed the first time using Barbri so I can help here.Nicolena. wrote:Yes. I’m taking the ube.patientlyimpatient wrote:I'm going to guess you're taking the UBE because my account still says shipping isn't available.Nicolena. wrote:Barbri sent me the email that i can have my books shipped to me a few days ago. You have to request them to be shipped though. You may want to check your account.
Does anyone have advice on how to get started and how much we should be doing a day to ease into this? Should we start doing 8 hours+ a day from the very get go?
I just finished the Barbri Winter 2018 Program and I didn't realize their method until the latter part of it. I realized that Barbri wants you to learn based on your mistakes or by applying your knowledge of law (doing some multiple choice or essay questions). I recommend that you follow Barbri instructions. For now, answer the AMPs as well as you can. The minimum set you are to take is 2. I usually get only 2 sets if I scored 75% or more per set. If I got 75% or lower, it gives you more set to answer. If you really want to review first before answering the AMPs, you can go to quizlet. Other previous barbri students, in your position, have created a file on those AMPs questions.ipse dixit wrote:Specifically, should I work through AMP for all of the topics first, and then watch videos and work through the MBE practice for all of the topics, or should I just focus on one topic at a time, doing AMP, videos, and MPQ questions? My intuition says I should do the latter, but the way the website is arranged makes me question whether this is the right approach.
What's everyone else doing?
(apologies for not including this in the first post; I inadvertently submitted it before I finished the message!!)