Re: 2018 February CA Bar
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:31 pm
Anyone has tips on how to be faster at the PTs? It consistently takes me over an hour just to go through the library and write down the rules...
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supa_mitsu wrote:Anyone has tips on how to be faster at the PTs? It consistently takes me over an hour just to go through the library and write down the rules...
What do you think is slowing you down? Are you getting lost in the procedural history of the case(s)? Can't figure out what the rules are?supa_mitsu wrote:Anyone has tips on how to be faster at the PTs? It consistently takes me over an hour just to go through the library and write down the rules...
As far as that goes, don't worry too much. If you're familiar with legal research, you can do a PT. It's all about following directions. So follow them as closely as possible. Yeah, there's more to it than that, but that's base upon which you want to build.supa_mitsu wrote:From what you wrote, my problem is probably that I find too many rules, subrules and standards that are not that relevant. I'll just try to get the main rules next time and try to keep it faster. Also, it doesn't help that I don't have an American JD (so I'm fairly new to doing all this stuff) so I probably just have to keep practicing and practicing. Hopefully for less than the duration of a whole JD! Thanks for the input.
No experience with Finz, sorry.helpappreciated wrote:Anyone have any experience using the Emmanuel S&T part 2 or the FINZ version? (I have part 1.) A male human, I've read your review of part 2, but what about FINZ?
I'll add my two cents, though I rarely studied for the PT's and passed them easily primarily due to my work experience. I agree with looking at the task memo and drafting an outline to begin. What you need to keep in mind is who is the audience? If you're writing an appellate brief, then the rules should be laid out in their entirety. If the memo is to a client describing a cause of action, I would truncate or synopsize the rule. Speak to your audience.supa_mitsu wrote:From what you wrote, my problem is probably that I find too many rules, subrules and standards that are not that relevant. I'll just try to get the main rules next time and try to keep it faster. Also, it doesn't help that I don't have an American JD (so I'm fairly new to doing all this stuff) so I probably just have to keep practicing and practicing. Hopefully for less than the duration of a whole JD! Thanks for the input.
You should have the MBE score break down from last time. Focus on the subjects you did sub-par last time. There is plenty time left. You can do this!onlythreemonths wrote:Yeah, so I think I'm going to fail this again... I cannot for the life of me remember all the rules. I took a practice MBE and got 125/200, but I'm thinking I definitely need a 140 to compensate for my essays. This is frustrating as hell...
I think we're at the same place. I got a 128/200. I definitely did what maxmartin recommended and focused on my worst subjects first...which helped because now my worst subjects are at least in the mid-range... the only down side is that I kind of neglected my better subjects and have to review them while feeling like shit over that score. Still, there's a month left. I took a day off and got back into studying. It was cold as hell but I went to the beach...I don't recommend that because now i also have a cold. But they day off was worth it. Just get it all out.onlythreemonths wrote:Yeah, so I think I'm going to fail this again... I cannot for the life of me remember all the rules. I took a practice MBE and got 125/200, but I'm thinking I definitely need a 140 to compensate for my essays. This is frustrating as hell...
Hey, just want to say this post really helped me today. I've been feeling extremely defeated + experiencing freak out sessions here and there for the past few days. This is tough. I'm really struggling with MBE - most subjects are in the 50%. With Real Property and Contracts as my worst. How do you study real property, if you don't mind sharing.onlyoncemore wrote:I think we're at the same place. I got a 128/200. I definitely did what maxmartin recommended and focused on my worst subjects first...which helped because now my worst subjects are at least in the mid-range... the only down side is that I kind of neglected my better subjects and have to review them while feeling like shit over that score. Still, there's a month left. I took a day off and got back into studying. It was cold as hell but I went to the beach...I don't recommend that because now i also have a cold. But they day off was worth it. Just get it all out.onlythreemonths wrote:Yeah, so I think I'm going to fail this again... I cannot for the life of me remember all the rules. I took a practice MBE and got 125/200, but I'm thinking I definitely need a 140 to compensate for my essays. This is frustrating as hell...
After getting over the initial disappointment of 128 I went back and did my own stats. My best subject was 80% (real property) and worst was 51% (contracts)... I looked at my answers and definitely saw that I seem to get certain categories of questions wrong, meaning I either forgot that shit or learned it wrong. Unfortunately some are the biggest point sections (i.e. Contract formation), so I've been focusing on them for the last week or so. Meanwhile, I do an essay or two every day if I can. If I burn out, I don't do the essay and just reserve a day of the week as "essay day" and run through them all. It gives me a break from MBE's too lol.
Dude, we go this. WE WILL BEAT THIS FUCKING TEST.
on a side note, in my notebook of answer corrections, I'd say 40% of the words are fuck/shit/damn. they do say swearing is cathartic.
No problem. We're all pretty much in our own little (burning) rowboat lol. Let's all make it to the finish line. And those defeating/freaking out emotions. I definitely have them... and I AM NOT ASHAMED TO SAY - ok i sort of am - that i sometimes just raise that middle finger at my booklet/computer screen and move on. I probably look like an asshole/freak at the library or cafe, but at this point in my life, I could care less.Candy Wrappers wrote:....Hey, just want to say this post really helped me today. I've been feeling extremely defeated + experiencing freak out sessions here and there for the past few days. This is tough. I'm really struggling with MBE - most subjects are in the 50%. With Real Property and Contracts as my worst. How do you study real property, if you don't mind sharing.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's because while H has to subjectively find it satisfactory, which may render it illusory, he also has to find it satisfactory or not in good faith. I picked (b) over (d) for the sole reason that satisfaction clauses are common.onlyoncemore wrote:Maybe i'm just having a bad brain fart... can someone explain this one?
A homeowner (H) entered into a written K with a house painter (P) to have his house repainted. The K stated in part: "if the H finds the completed job to be satisfactory, he will pay the P $10,000 within one week after the job is completed." Which one of the following is accurate regarding H's contractual obligation to pay P $10,000
- Payment of $10k by H would be an express condition subsequent to the house painter's duty of performance
- P's performance under K would be an express condition precedent to H's duty of payment of $10k
- The performances of H and P were concurrent conditions
- There is no K, because the condition of H's satisfaction renders the contract illusory
onlyoncemore wrote:Maybe i'm just having a bad brain fart... can someone explain this one?
A homeowner (H) entered into a written K with a house painter (P) to have his house repainted. The K stated in part: "if the H finds the completed job to be satisfactory, he will pay the P $10,000 within one week after the job is completed." Which one of the following is accurate regarding H's contractual obligation to pay P $10,000
- Payment of $10k by H would be an express condition subsequent to the house painter's duty of performance
- P's performance under K would be an express condition precedent to H's duty of payment of $10k
- The performances of H and P were concurrent conditions
- There is no K, because the condition of H's satisfaction renders the contract illusory
I picked B as well. I think lack of instinctual trust is something I am working on as I practice more. For example, my instinct was, "It's B don't over think this move on." But then I second-guessed myself after reading D. I remember a couple others questions covering issues like this.FinallyPassedTheBar wrote:onlyoncemore wrote:Maybe i'm just having a bad brain fart... can someone explain this one?
A homeowner (H) entered into a written K with a house painter (P) to have his house repainted. The K stated in part: "if the H finds the completed job to be satisfactory, he will pay the P $10,000 within one week after the job is completed." Which one of the following is accurate regarding H's contractual obligation to pay P $10,000
- Payment of $10k by H would be an express condition subsequent to the house painter's duty of performance
- P's performance under K would be an express condition precedent to H's duty of payment of $10k
- The performances of H and P were concurrent conditions
- There is no K, because the condition of H's satisfaction renders the contract illusory
D is the trap answer choice. D is wrong because there is a valid contract. Many contracts have "satisfaction guarantee" phrases.
An illusory contract would be one that says, "if the H finds he wants to pay, he will pay the P $10,000 within one week after the job is completed."
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What is the difference between answer choices A and B? I guess a is wrong because it's not an express condition subject to P's performance, its a subsequent condition to P's performance AND H's satisfaction? Is that right?FinallyPassedTheBar wrote:onlyoncemore wrote:Maybe i'm just having a bad brain fart... can someone explain this one?
A homeowner (H) entered into a written K with a house painter (P) to have his house repainted. The K stated in part: "if the H finds the completed job to be satisfactory, he will pay the P $10,000 within one week after the job is completed." Which one of the following is accurate regarding H's contractual obligation to pay P $10,000
- Payment of $10k by H would be an express condition subsequent to the house painter's duty of performance
- P's performance under K would be an express condition precedent to H's duty of payment of $10k
- The performances of H and P were concurrent conditions
- There is no K, because the condition of H's satisfaction renders the contract illusory
D is the trap answer choice. D is wrong because there is a valid contract. Many contracts have "satisfaction guarantee" phrases.
An illusory contract would be one that says, "if the H finds he wants to pay, he will pay the P $10,000 within one week after the job is completed."