2017 July Illinois Bar Forum

Southpaw89 · Post by **Southpaw89** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:38 pm

uceoledinbdnrn wrote:Nobody's studying for the MPT, right? Seems like winging it is TCR.

Depends what you mean by studying. I've looked at the different types they could test us on, and have practiced a few, but that's about it.

Steve2207 · Post by **Steve2207** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:11 pm

Does anyone happen to have a good attack outline on evidence they wouldn’t mind sharing? I am struggling hard with this subject, and it is ripe for both morning and afternoon essays. I would be willing to trade any of mine if needed.

rahulg91 · Post by **rahulg91** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:16 pm

Can someone confirm that we're not supposed to be bringing in our laptops on Day Two? The instructions are unclear.

ndbigdave · Post by **ndbigdave** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:20 pm

rahulg91 wrote:Can someone confirm that we're not supposed to be bringing in our laptops on Day Two? The instructions are unclear.

Can confirm, laptops are only on day 1 for the IEE/MPT/MEE.

uceoledinbdnrn · Post by **uceoledinbdnrn** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:20 pm

Steve2207 wrote:Does anyone happen to have a good attack outline on evidence they wouldn’t mind sharing? I am struggling hard with this subject, and it is ripe for both morning and afternoon essays. I would be willing to trade any of mine if needed.

Not really an attack outline but I've just been using Tanicus's write-ups/the reddit link he posted in the sticky thread.

RaceJudicata · Post by **RaceJudicata** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:09 am

ndbigdave wrote:
rahulg91 wrote:Can someone confirm that we're not supposed to be bringing in our laptops on Day Two? The instructions are unclear.
Can confirm, laptops are only on day 1 for the IEE/MPT/MEE.

Is anyone else irrationally terrified about having to upload the answer file after the test at home/coffeeshop/hotel,etc.?

Seems like something I could definitely screw up.

rahulg91 · Post by **rahulg91** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:48 am

RaceJudicata wrote:
ndbigdave wrote:
rahulg91 wrote:Can someone confirm that we're not supposed to be bringing in our laptops on Day Two? The instructions are unclear.
Can confirm, laptops are only on day 1 for the IEE/MPT/MEE.
Is anyone else irrationally terrified about having to upload the answer file after the test at home/coffeeshop/hotel,etc.?

Seems like something I could definitely screw up.

It looks like a very straightforward process (assuming their network doesn't crash again lol), but if you're at all technologically-challenged go to the site (http://go.examsoft.com/barexamupload) and read up on the instructions the day before.

Suprman37 · Post by **Suprman37** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:43 am

RaceJudicata wrote:
ndbigdave wrote:
rahulg91 wrote:Can someone confirm that we're not supposed to be bringing in our laptops on Day Two? The instructions are unclear.
Can confirm, laptops are only on day 1 for the IEE/MPT/MEE.
Is anyone else irrationally terrified about having to upload the answer file after the test at home/coffeeshop/hotel,etc.?

Seems like something I could definitely screw up.

I don't understand why they do that. Indiana made you upload it before leaving and had reps from Examsoft there in case there was a problem with the upload.

Steve2207 · Post by **Steve2207** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:35 pm

RaceJudicata wrote:
ndbigdave wrote:
rahulg91 wrote:Can someone confirm that we're not supposed to be bringing in our laptops on Day Two? The instructions are unclear.
Can confirm, laptops are only on day 1 for the IEE/MPT/MEE.
Is anyone else irrationally terrified about having to upload the answer file after the test at home/coffeeshop/hotel,etc.?

Seems like something I could definitely screw up.

I am more scared of the Windows 10 Creator issue. I downloaded the woraround, but Examsoft made it sound like there is no guarantee that I wont have an issue on exam day.

Commerce2017 · Post by **Commerce2017** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:45 pm

Hi Guys,

Another test taker checking in. I took a look at the frequency charts and I have a hunch we will be getting a will and trusts essay, a secured transactions, IL Civ pro (of course), Federal Civ Pro, and Equity. Not sure about the rest.

I have a feeling Corporations and Family won't be tested.

What are your predictions?

RaceJudicata · Post by **RaceJudicata** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:00 pm

Commerce2017 wrote:Hi Guys,

Another test taker checking in. I took a look at the frequency charts and I have a hunch we will be getting a will and trusts essay, a secured transactions, IL Civ pro (of course), Federal Civ Pro, and Equity. Not sure about the rest.

I have a feeling Corporations and Family won't be tested.

What are your predictions?

For Illinois essays im predicting: Illinois Civ Pro; Family law; and random MBE subject.

For MEE - https://excellenceinlawschool.com/july- ... edictions/ ... someone was saying they were 4/6 for February... but really a crapshoot.

Commerce2017 · Post by **Commerce2017** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:17 pm

Family Law is definitely tested frequently but I noticed that it hasn't been tested back to back since 09' and it was tested this February. It is one of the easier subjects though, so no big deal if it is tested.

BaberhamLincoln · Post by **BaberhamLincoln** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:59 pm

If you're a visual learner, you may like this site. came across it today and it's solid

http://brendanconley.com/barexam/eviden ... flowchart/

GoCubsGo41 · Post by **GoCubsGo41** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:29 pm

I'm taking the test at UIC Pavilion.

Does anyone know what the laptop charging situation is there? I'm not sure my laptop can hold a charge on its own for 8 hours. Are there outlets at every seat? Can I bring an extension cord? Etc.

Thanks for any help!

ndbigdave · Post by **ndbigdave** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:45 pm

GoCubsGo41 wrote:I'm taking the test at UIC Pavilion.

Does anyone know what the laptop charging situation is there? I'm not sure my laptop can hold a charge on its own for 8 hours. Are there outlets at every seat? Can I bring an extension cord? Etc.

Thanks for any help!

There are multi-plug outlets every few seats so you should have no issue having a place to plug in. You wont have to leave your laptop on battery power only. Breathe easy.

uceoledinbdnrn · Post by **uceoledinbdnrn** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:40 pm

Wait, the administrative law that may or may not be tested on the IEE is federal admin law?

rahulg91 · Post by **rahulg91** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:52 pm

uceoledinbdnrn wrote:Wait, the administrative law that may or may not be tested on the IEE is federal admin law?

Well, it seems to be a mix. But it's Illinois-specific administrative law (which exists lol) for the most part, looking at the barbri essay questions.

Suprman37 · Post by **Suprman37** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:55 pm

uceoledinbdnrn wrote:Wait, the administrative law that may or may not be tested on the IEE is federal admin law?

I have this Barbri book that has answered every IEE question since 1995. Of the five Admin law questions (tells you the likelihood of seeing one), 3 were federal and 2 were Illinois Administrative Review Law.

uceoledinbdnrn · Post by **uceoledinbdnrn** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:07 pm

Ok so the smart money is on just not going through this federal admin law outline themis "helpfully" provided me with and just winging some shit about notice and opportunity to be heard if an admin issue pops up, yeah?

Commerce2017 · Post by **Commerce2017** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:10 am

Anybody have a good distincions outline they dont mind sharing?

itsme123 · Post by **itsme123** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:56 pm

I just finished the full day Emanuel MBE and got my best raw score yet (147/200). BUT there had to have been maybe 10-20 questions that were similar to or the exact same as Barbri questions...which tempers my enthusiam about my score. Does anyone know if the examiners reuse general fact patterns to test similar concepts?

RaceJudicata · Post by **RaceJudicata** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:45 pm

Commerce2017 wrote:Anybody have a good distincions outline they dont mind sharing?

Ditto.

champloo · Post by **champloo** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:06 pm

RaceJudicata wrote:
Commerce2017 wrote:Anybody have a good distincions outline they dont mind sharing?
Ditto.

Me too

Suprman37 · Post by **Suprman37** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:56 pm

From what I understand, the only Illinois distinctions worth worrying about are in civil procedure. All of the other questions can be answered with common law and achieve a passing score.

cron1834 · Post by **cron1834** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:17 am

Anyone else feeling a little pessimistic about passing chances at this point? I've missed chunks of the summer due to some family issues, and I just haven't done nearly as much as I've wanted to. I've done about 50% of my course. I've listened to the lectures on every topic, but haven't successfully memorized much or drilled too many practice questions. Any hope for general test-taking ability carrying the day?

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