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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by star fox » Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:08 pm

So Federal Income Tax has never appeared and Administrative Law only appeared once in February 2011 as a component of a IL Civil Procedure question. Couldn't the state be a little more chill and just take them off the list?

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Post by RaceJudicata » Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:17 pm

star fox wrote:So Federal Income Tax has never appeared and Administrative Law only appeared once in February 2011 as a component of a IL Civil Procedure question. Couldn't the state be a little more chill and just take them off the list?
Or just go to UBE and make things more manageable for everyone.

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by hi3 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:24 am

Does anyone have a good resource for IEE outlines? This will be my second bar exam, and my MBE scores are transferring, so I'll only be taking the essay day. I'm enrolled in Kaplan, but I am working full time with no opportunity to take any time off before the bar, so I'm fairly behind. Any resources for pre-made, and condense, IEE outlines much appreciated!!

It would be quite nice if IL got on board with UBE....

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by Suprman37 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:05 am

hi3 wrote:Does anyone have a good resource for IEE outlines? This will be my second bar exam, and my MBE scores are transferring, so I'll only be taking the essay day. I'm enrolled in Kaplan, but I am working full time with no opportunity to take any time off before the bar, so I'm fairly behind. Any resources for pre-made, and condense, IEE outlines much appreciated!!

It would be quite nice if IL got on board with UBE....
We're in similar positions, only taking the essays and little time to study. That means you have to be pretty strategic with the studying. For the IEE, I would only worry about Illinois Civ Pro and Equity, because those are the only non-MEE topics frequently tested by Illinois. I have outlines for both of them. Shoot me a pm with your email address.

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by Steve2207 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:04 am

star fox wrote:So Federal Income Tax has never appeared and Administrative Law only appeared once in February 2011 as a component of a IL Civil Procedure question. Couldn't the state be a little more chill and just take them off the list?

So then, would it be safe to skip studying for Commercial Paper, Fed. Tax, and Administrative law all together? I already watched the lectures, but don’t really remember the content very well. Would my time be better invested studying other topics?

BTW: Corporations is another topic that comes up on the IEE about 60% of the time according to my commercial bar review materials.

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by Suprman37 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:39 am

Steve2207 wrote:
star fox wrote:So Federal Income Tax has never appeared and Administrative Law only appeared once in February 2011 as a component of a IL Civil Procedure question. Couldn't the state be a little more chill and just take them off the list?

So then, would it be safe to skip studying for Commercial Paper, Fed. Tax, and Administrative law all together? I already watched the lectures, but don’t really remember the content very well. Would my time be better invested studying other topics?
That's what I'm doing. Outside of MEE topics, the only IL topics I'm studying are Illinois Civil Procedure and Equity. Could they throw in another one of those topics, even though none of them have been tested in the last 10 bar exams? Sure, but I doubt it'll happen. There hasn't been an Illinois exam since F06 that hasn't tested either Illinois Civ Pro or Equity, so now they're down to two subjects. Out of the last 10 exams, they've tested both of them 5 times. That leaves one subject and it will be likely to be an MEE one.

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by itsme123 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:14 pm

When do we find out where we're taking the bar exam?

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Post by Southpaw89 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:20 pm

itsme123 wrote:When do we find out where we're taking the bar exam?
The morning of. It's part of their strategy to stress us out even more...

Just kidding, not sure.

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by Suprman37 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:23 pm

On my confirmation to take the bar exam, it said they'd tell us two weeks before. Crazy to think it's just three weeks out.

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by Steve2207 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:28 pm

Anyone else get an email regarding the Windows Creator Update not being compatible for examsoft? I have the update, but I am unclear as to whether it is safe to use the "workaround" option provided, or if it is preferred to get a new laptop?

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by BlendedUnicorn » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:07 pm

Steve2207 wrote:Anyone else get an email regarding the Windows Creator Update not being compatible for examsoft? I have the update, but I am unclear as to whether it is safe to use the "workaround" option provided, or if it is preferred to get a new laptop?
I wouldn't get a new laptop unless you have to. Email the address they gave you.

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by champloo » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:25 pm

how well would i do on an iee civ pro essay if i made no illinois distinctions and only used federal rules for application? really want to skip illinois civ pro........

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by Southpaw89 » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:42 pm

I just have a bad feeling that we are getting to get either a commercial paper or admin law question for IEE.

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by star fox » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:48 pm

Southpaw89 wrote:I just have a bad feeling that we are getting to get either a commercial paper or admin law question for IEE.
At least we'll all be equally fucked

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by RaceJudicata » Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:25 am

star fox wrote:
Southpaw89 wrote:I just have a bad feeling that we are getting to get either a commercial paper or admin law question for IEE.
At least we'll all be equally fucked
Commercial paper? What's that?

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by Southpaw89 » Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:44 am

RaceJudicata wrote:
star fox wrote:
Southpaw89 wrote:I just have a bad feeling that we are getting to get either a commercial paper or admin law question for IEE.
At least we'll all be equally fucked
Commercial paper? What's that?

That's a fantastic question. I went to a lecture titled Commercial Paper, but sure as hell can't tell you what it was about.

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by Suprman37 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:46 pm

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by rm560 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:13 pm

Should I be concerned if I haven't heard anything about my character and fitness application? I did submit late (mid-March), but I was wondering if I still should have heard something by now. Is anyone else in that boat?

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by champloo » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:24 pm

rm560 wrote:Should I be concerned if I haven't heard anything about my character and fitness application? I did submit late (mid-March), but I was wondering if I still should have heard something by now. Is anyone else in that boat?
i haven't heard anything either. everyone i talked to about it hasn't heard anything either. maybe they'll let us know after the test?

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by champloo » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:25 pm

btw, i've been increasingly wondering what our wisconsin friends are up to these days

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by itsme123 » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:48 am

If you had to choose one or two of these subjects to study for the IEE, which would it be?
- Administrative Law
- Commercial Paper
- Federal Tax
- Personal Property
- Suretyship

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by Southpaw89 » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:05 pm

itsme123 wrote:If you had to choose one or two of these subjects to study for the IEE, which would it be?
- Administrative Law
- Commercial Paper
- Federal Tax
- Personal Property
- Suretyship
For what it's worth, I'm focusing the least on Fed Tax and Admin.

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by rahulg91 » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:32 pm

itsme123 wrote:If you had to choose one or two of these subjects to study for the IEE, which would it be?
- Administrative Law
- Commercial Paper
- Federal Tax
- Personal Property
- Suretyship
This is based off no reasoning other than the frequency chart, but I'd do Personal Property and Suretyship. If I had to add in a third, Tax.

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by star fox » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:34 pm

IL's random distinctions are garbage

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Re: 2017 July Illinois Bar

Post by uceoledinbdnrn » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:02 pm

Nobody's studying for the MPT, right? Seems like winging it is TCR.

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