Re: Adaptibar user hangout - July 2017
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:39 pm
Scored 72% for OPE 4. Should I be worried or delighted?
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Because there is no exclamation point. Really.kcjlo10 wrote:Anyone else get frustrated by this question?
A plaintiff has sued a defendant, alleging that she was run over by a speeding car driven by the defendant. The plaintiff was unconscious after her injury and, accompanied by her husband, was brought to the hospital in an ambulance.
At trial, the plaintiff calls an emergency room physician to testify that when the physician asked the plaintiff's husband if he knew what had happened, the husband, who was upset, replied, "I saw my wife get run over two hours ago by a driver who went right through the intersection without looking."
Is the physician's testimony about the husband's statement admissible?
A. No, because it relates an opinion.
B. No, because it is hearsay not within any exception.
C. Yes, as a statement made for purposes of diagnosis or treatment.
D. Yes, as an excited utterance.
I think what really throws the question off for me, is that the question adds "the husband, who was UPSET, replied..." Seems as though the facts are indicating that it has been only about 2 hours and the husband is still upset about the event (still under its effects). The rule itself seems clear: "803(2) Excited Utterance. A statement relating to a startling event or condition, made while the declarant was under the stress of excitement that it caused."t-14orbust wrote:Because there is no exclamation point. Really.kcjlo10 wrote:Anyone else get frustrated by this question?
A plaintiff has sued a defendant, alleging that she was run over by a speeding car driven by the defendant. The plaintiff was unconscious after her injury and, accompanied by her husband, was brought to the hospital in an ambulance.
At trial, the plaintiff calls an emergency room physician to testify that when the physician asked the plaintiff's husband if he knew what had happened, the husband, who was upset, replied, "I saw my wife get run over two hours ago by a driver who went right through the intersection without looking."
Is the physician's testimony about the husband's statement admissible?
A. No, because it relates an opinion.
B. No, because it is hearsay not within any exception.
C. Yes, as a statement made for purposes of diagnosis or treatment.
D. Yes, as an excited utterance.
My guess is the getting run over by a car would be admissible but the part about the driver and intersection do not help with diagnosis or treatment therefore they are hearsay without any exception.TheWalrus wrote:Why is it not c?
That's what I thought, but there's w barbri question that admits the defendant told a doctor he got shot after robbing a jewelry store, and that was admissible.DCESQ wrote:My guess is the getting run over by a car would be admissible but the part about the driver and intersection do not help with diagnosis or treatment therefore they are hearsay without any exception.TheWalrus wrote:Why is it not c?
The jewelry store robber's statement would be an admission by a party-opponent. The statement by the husband regarding whether someone blew a red light isn't relevant to medical diagnosis or treatment. The only portion that would probably be admitted is the fact that she was hit by a car.TheWalrus wrote:That's what I thought, but there's w barbri question that admits the defendant told a doctor he got shot after robbing a jewelry store, and that was admissible.DCESQ wrote:My guess is the getting run over by a car would be admissible but the part about the driver and intersection do not help with diagnosis or treatment therefore they are hearsay without any exception.TheWalrus wrote:Why is it not c?
Oh. Really, it's that simple? Just look out for an exclamation point? Thank you!t-14orbust wrote:Because there is no exclamation point. Really.kcjlo10 wrote:Anyone else get frustrated by this question?
A plaintiff has sued a defendant, alleging that she was run over by a speeding car driven by the defendant. The plaintiff was unconscious after her injury and, accompanied by her husband, was brought to the hospital in an ambulance.
At trial, the plaintiff calls an emergency room physician to testify that when the physician asked the plaintiff's husband if he knew what had happened, the husband, who was upset, replied, "I saw my wife get run over two hours ago by a driver who went right through the intersection without looking."
Is the physician's testimony about the husband's statement admissible?
A. No, because it relates an opinion.
B. No, because it is hearsay not within any exception.
C. Yes, as a statement made for purposes of diagnosis or treatment.
D. Yes, as an excited utterance.
Thats a good score. Not autopass or anything but a very solid, above passing score.Knickerblocker wrote:Scored 72% for OPE 4. Should I be worried or delighted?
Also did this and scored 79% but it seemed a bit too easy? I finished it in one hour and a half. I'm sure civ pro not being on there helped but still seemed easy compared to other questions on Adaptibar on Barbri.RaceJudicata wrote:Thats a good score. Not autopass or anything but a very solid, above passing score.Knickerblocker wrote:Scored 72% for OPE 4. Should I be worried or delighted?
Barbri is notoriously harder than actual MBE questions (especially the further you go into the course) + Adaptibar targets weaknesses/questions you get incorrect - so you probably see the harder collection of questions through their algorithm. Since OPEs (to my understanding) are half of previous NCBEs I think they give a more accurate representation of what we'll get on game day. The actual MBE appears to have a more even distribution of easy/medium/hard questions than what Barbri offers or Adaptibar feeds us.nmic wrote:Also did this and scored 79% but it seemed a bit too easy? I finished it in one hour and a half. I'm sure civ pro not being on there helped but still seemed easy compared to other questions on Adaptibar on Barbri.RaceJudicata wrote:Thats a good score. Not autopass or anything but a very solid, above passing score.Knickerblocker wrote:Scored 72% for OPE 4. Should I be worried or delighted?
This is a fair assesment from what I have heard.okaygo wrote:Barbri is notoriously harder than actual MBE questions (especially the further you go into the course) + Adaptibar targets weaknesses/questions you get incorrect - so you probably see the harder collection of questions through their algorithm. Since OPEs (to my understanding) are half of previous NCBEs I think they give a more accurate representation of what we'll get on game day. The actual MBE appears to have a more even distribution of easy/medium/hard questions than what Barbri offers or Adaptibar feeds us.nmic wrote:Also did this and scored 79% but it seemed a bit too easy? I finished it in one hour and a half. I'm sure civ pro not being on there helped but still seemed easy compared to other questions on Adaptibar on Barbri.RaceJudicata wrote:Thats a good score. Not autopass or anything but a very solid, above passing score.Knickerblocker wrote:Scored 72% for OPE 4. Should I be worried or delighted?
I am a fan of adaptibar, but TBH I think its a waste of money for you at this point.nothingtosee wrote:I'm biting the bullet and signing up. First person to PM me a discount code I'll use and you can get the referral
you have pms disabled in your settingsndbigdave wrote:I have seen a few threads about individual student's completion percentage of their programs and thought I would ask how far people are with Adaptibar - I find it interesting that as of about 1 minute ago the "overall average" has students at 671 questions completed (which is about 38% of the program).
I have completed 1,118 questions thus far, my main focus this last week is review of essay topics so I am going through outlines for non-MBE subjects and over the weekend will review my short, attack-sheet outlines (roughly 70 pages for the 14 topics) so Ill likely only get another 100-200 done. I think I am pretty well set for where I stand now, but I am amazed at how low the national average is with questions completed.
So where are you now? Have a goal for these last few days? Any impressions regarding the program now that the end is near?
Are you doing another program as well? Right now I'm at 800 questions completed. I'm staying on pace with the Barbri program while using Adaptibar as a supplement, so I never really anticipated getting through all 1,700 questions. For this last week, I'm focusing on MEE, but dedicating 1 hour to Adaptibar questions first thing in the morning to make sure my MBE doesn't slip.ndbigdave wrote:I have seen a few threads about individual student's completion percentage of their programs and thought I would ask how far people are with Adaptibar - I find it interesting that as of about 1 minute ago the "overall average" has students at 671 questions completed (which is about 38% of the program).
I have completed 1,118 questions thus far, my main focus this last week is review of essay topics so I am going through outlines for non-MBE subjects and over the weekend will review my short, attack-sheet outlines (roughly 70 pages for the 14 topics) so Ill likely only get another 100-200 done. I think I am pretty well set for where I stand now, but I am amazed at how low the national average is with questions completed.
So where are you now? Have a goal for these last few days? Any impressions regarding the program now that the end is near?
Fixed. Sorry about that.nothingtosee wrote:you have pms disabled in your settingsndbigdave wrote:I have seen a few threads about individual student's completion percentage of their programs and thought I would ask how far people are with Adaptibar - I find it interesting that as of about 1 minute ago the "overall average" has students at 671 questions completed (which is about 38% of the program).
I have completed 1,118 questions thus far, my main focus this last week is review of essay topics so I am going through outlines for non-MBE subjects and over the weekend will review my short, attack-sheet outlines (roughly 70 pages for the 14 topics) so Ill likely only get another 100-200 done. I think I am pretty well set for where I stand now, but I am amazed at how low the national average is with questions completed.
So where are you now? Have a goal for these last few days? Any impressions regarding the program now that the end is near?
No other program for me, at least not in the traditional sense. I am self-studying while working full-time so I am use tools when I can. For MBE topics I am using Adaptibar for questions and BarMax for their audio lectures. For the essays I am using SmartBar's outlines (they have a longer set of about 270 pages for the MEE subjects and a shorter set of roughly 70 pages as "attack sheets").WestWingWatcher wrote:Are you doing another program as well? Right now I'm at 800 questions completed. I'm staying on pace with the Barbri program while using Adaptibar as a supplement, so I never really anticipated getting through all 1,700 questions. For this last week, I'm focusing on MEE, but dedicating 1 hour to Adaptibar questions first thing in the morning to make sure my MBE doesn't slip.ndbigdave wrote:I have seen a few threads about individual student's completion percentage of their programs and thought I would ask how far people are with Adaptibar - I find it interesting that as of about 1 minute ago the "overall average" has students at 671 questions completed (which is about 38% of the program).
I have completed 1,118 questions thus far, my main focus this last week is review of essay topics so I am going through outlines for non-MBE subjects and over the weekend will review my short, attack-sheet outlines (roughly 70 pages for the 14 topics) so Ill likely only get another 100-200 done. I think I am pretty well set for where I stand now, but I am amazed at how low the national average is with questions completed.
So where are you now? Have a goal for these last few days? Any impressions regarding the program now that the end is near?
I've heard great things about the SmartBar outlines and almost did them instead of Adaptibar. I imagine the combination of those, the barmax lecture, and Adaptibar is just as good as any bar program plus much cheaper (I assume, I don't actually know the cost of the BarMax stuff). Thank god for traditional bar prep companies so many of us are sheepndbigdave wrote:No other program for me, at least not in the traditional sense. I am self-studying while working full-time so I am use tools when I can. For MBE topics I am using Adaptibar for questions and BarMax for their audio lectures. For the essays I am using SmartBar's outlines (they have a longer set of about 270 pages for the MEE subjects and a shorter set of roughly 70 pages as "attack sheets").WestWingWatcher wrote:Are you doing another program as well? Right now I'm at 800 questions completed. I'm staying on pace with the Barbri program while using Adaptibar as a supplement, so I never really anticipated getting through all 1,700 questions. For this last week, I'm focusing on MEE, but dedicating 1 hour to Adaptibar questions first thing in the morning to make sure my MBE doesn't slip.ndbigdave wrote:I have seen a few threads about individual student's completion percentage of their programs and thought I would ask how far people are with Adaptibar - I find it interesting that as of about 1 minute ago the "overall average" has students at 671 questions completed (which is about 38% of the program).
I have completed 1,118 questions thus far, my main focus this last week is review of essay topics so I am going through outlines for non-MBE subjects and over the weekend will review my short, attack-sheet outlines (roughly 70 pages for the 14 topics) so Ill likely only get another 100-200 done. I think I am pretty well set for where I stand now, but I am amazed at how low the national average is with questions completed.
So where are you now? Have a goal for these last few days? Any impressions regarding the program now that the end is near?
I bought BarMax 2 years ago for my first bar (which I passed) and the price was the same as it is now $500. Adaptibar was $360 and SmartBar was $160. There is a lot of overlap with BarMax/Adaptibar because BarMax also includes all the licensed questions and is now doing an even better job of tracking progress and success (but not quite to the level of adaptibar yet) so I now view BarMax more as my lecture suite (which I can listen to on my phone or from my laptop) Adaptibar is for questions/tracking progress and SmartBar is for essays. What is great about BarMax is that i own it for life.WestWingWatcher wrote:I've heard great things about the SmartBar outlines and almost did them instead of Adaptibar. I imagine the combination of those, the barmax lecture, and Adaptibar is just as good as any bar program plus much cheaper (I assume, I don't actually know the cost of the BarMax stuff). Thank god for traditional bar prep companies so many of us are sheepndbigdave wrote:No other program for me, at least not in the traditional sense. I am self-studying while working full-time so I am use tools when I can. For MBE topics I am using Adaptibar for questions and BarMax for their audio lectures. For the essays I am using SmartBar's outlines (they have a longer set of about 270 pages for the MEE subjects and a shorter set of roughly 70 pages as "attack sheets").WestWingWatcher wrote:Are you doing another program as well? Right now I'm at 800 questions completed. I'm staying on pace with the Barbri program while using Adaptibar as a supplement, so I never really anticipated getting through all 1,700 questions. For this last week, I'm focusing on MEE, but dedicating 1 hour to Adaptibar questions first thing in the morning to make sure my MBE doesn't slip.ndbigdave wrote:I have seen a few threads about individual student's completion percentage of their programs and thought I would ask how far people are with Adaptibar - I find it interesting that as of about 1 minute ago the "overall average" has students at 671 questions completed (which is about 38% of the program).
I have completed 1,118 questions thus far, my main focus this last week is review of essay topics so I am going through outlines for non-MBE subjects and over the weekend will review my short, attack-sheet outlines (roughly 70 pages for the 14 topics) so Ill likely only get another 100-200 done. I think I am pretty well set for where I stand now, but I am amazed at how low the national average is with questions completed.
So where are you now? Have a goal for these last few days? Any impressions regarding the program now that the end is near?
Also self-studying with a used copy of Barbri's Conviser & Florida Testing Book, sample essay answers from my Florida Bar website, and Adaptibar for MBE. As of right now I've answered 1896 questions with a 63.8% overall average, and a 77.4% average since July 1st. My question progress is 87.7% (1,535 of 1,751 questions answered).ndbigdave wrote:No other program for me, at least not in the traditional sense. I am self-studying while working full-time so I am use tools when I can. For MBE topics I am using Adaptibar for questions and BarMax for their audio lectures. For the essays I am using SmartBar's outlines (they have a longer set of about 270 pages for the MEE subjects and a shorter set of roughly 70 pages as "attack sheets").WestWingWatcher wrote:Are you doing another program as well? Right now I'm at 800 questions completed. I'm staying on pace with the Barbri program while using Adaptibar as a supplement, so I never really anticipated getting through all 1,700 questions. For this last week, I'm focusing on MEE, but dedicating 1 hour to Adaptibar questions first thing in the morning to make sure my MBE doesn't slip.ndbigdave wrote:I have seen a few threads about individual student's completion percentage of their programs and thought I would ask how far people are with Adaptibar - I find it interesting that as of about 1 minute ago the "overall average" has students at 671 questions completed (which is about 38% of the program).
I have completed 1,118 questions thus far, my main focus this last week is review of essay topics so I am going through outlines for non-MBE subjects and over the weekend will review my short, attack-sheet outlines (roughly 70 pages for the 14 topics) so Ill likely only get another 100-200 done. I think I am pretty well set for where I stand now, but I am amazed at how low the national average is with questions completed.
So where are you now? Have a goal for these last few days? Any impressions regarding the program now that the end is near?