2017 July California Bar Forum

[nsv]

i know everyone wants to compare how they did but don't let it bring you down for tomorrow. MBEs are worth 50%, you can make a lot of loss ground tomorrow. i'm in the same boat as all of you, I still think i missed something on the first call of the civ pro question...and probably did.

[Sunny1211]

I spent way too much time on the per se aspect knowing Harry knew damn well he wasn't part of the class intended to be protected nor the the type of harm intented to prevent

Also can someone tell me if trying to avoid Probate raised an issue for Comm prop

I just said it goes to show the intent for the collateral agreement - JT title - to change the condo from SP to CP since they didn't have an express agreement

[AcidaliaPlanitia]

Received this orange card at the end of the exam:

"You must upload all four (4) exam answer files by 12:00 noon Thursday July 27, 2017"

Four???

In SD they mentioned that this was a mistake because there used to be 2 days of essays, therefore 4 exam files

[RoccoPan]

Does tomorrow start at the same time as today did (be there by 8:30)?

[AcidaliaPlanitia]

Did anyone else mention on the Community Property essay that the attempted transfer from sole title to joint tenancy would have failed without a strawman, because joint tenancy requires unity of time?

[yost]

i know everyone wants to compare how they did but don't let it bring you down for tomorrow. MBEs are worth 50%, you can make a lot of loss ground tomorrow. i'm in the same boat as all of you, I still think i missed something on the first call of the civ pro question...and probably did.

If it makes you feel better, my answer was super short. Basically: plaintiff can join as many claims as he has against defendant, regardless of whether or not they are related. There must also be PJ and SMJ with respect to both claims, which I believe there was. The end.

[scubasteve2]

when are we supposed to be there tomorrow? stranded in ontario at a hotel where everyone is taking the exam yet nobody is around

[Sunny1211]

i know everyone wants to compare how they did but don't let it bring you down for tomorrow. MBEs are worth 50%, you can make a lot of loss ground tomorrow. i'm in the same boat as all of you, I still think i missed something on the first call of the civ pro question...and probably did.

I got screwed on the Joinder of Claims too.... I talked about Compulsory Joinder and Permissive FML

[mcmand]

Edit: Aight I'm gonna stop reading this stuff. I left the exam feeling pretty good and now I'm starting to have doubts. Need to focus on the MBE tomorrow.

Good plan. This rapidly became an unhealthy thread.

[justanotheruser]

i know everyone wants to compare how they did but don't let it bring you down for tomorrow. MBEs are worth 50%, you can make a lot of loss ground tomorrow. i'm in the same boat as all of you, I still think i missed something on the first call of the civ pro question...and probably did.

If it makes you feel better, my answer was super short. Basically: plaintiff can join as many claims as he has against defendant, regardless of whether or not they are related. There must also be PJ and SMJ with respect to both claims, which I believe there was. The end.

Yeah, I may have botched this too. I wasn't sure what to talk about, so I talked about how not bringing the claims together might lead to res judicata issues down the line. Eh.

[Sunny1211]

I swear the CP problem was ridiculous..... got me completely off guard....nothing really fit into a category.... mostly talked about commingled funds and tracing

[RoccoPan]

when are we supposed to be there tomorrow? stranded in ontario at a hotel where everyone is taking the exam yet nobody is around

Did you find out the answer to this?

[Sunny1211]

Did anyone else mention on the Community Property essay that the attempted transfer from sole title to joint tenancy would have failed without a strawman, because joint tenancy requires unity of time?

wait I said the transfer of title into JT made was a collateral agreement to rebut the SP gift presumption since the condo was a gift to him during marriage

[AcidaliaPlanitia]

Did anyone else mention on the Community Property essay that the attempted transfer from sole title to joint tenancy would have failed without a strawman, because joint tenancy requires unity of time?

wait I said the transfer of title into JT made was a collateral agreement to rebut the SP gift presumption since the condo was a gift to him during marriage

That's pretty much where I went with it too. Just mentioned after the fact that at common law you couldn't create a joint tenancy by having a husband transfer title to himself and his wife as joint tenants, because you need unity of time. I don't think it changes the analysis because I think "jointly titled" for the CP rules includes tenancy in common as well as joint tenancy.

[nsv]

when are we supposed to be there tomorrow? stranded in ontario at a hotel where everyone is taking the exam yet nobody is around

Did you find out the answer to this?

http://www.calbar.ca.gov/Admissions/Exa ... xamination

8:20

[netrag]

Did anyone else mention on the Community Property essay that the attempted transfer from sole title to joint tenancy would have failed without a strawman, because joint tenancy requires unity of time?

wait I said the transfer of title into JT made was a collateral agreement to rebut the SP gift presumption since the condo was a gift to him during marriage

That's pretty much where I went with it too. Just mentioned after the fact that at common law you couldn't create a joint tenancy by having a husband transfer title to himself and his wife as joint tenants, because you need unity of time. I don't think it changes the analysis because I think "jointly titled" for the CP rules includes tenancy in common as well as joint tenancy.

Yes, re: TIC. It didn't mention survivorship, so I didn't go that route, but I am sure that you will get a few points for discussing it.

[elijah54594]

Did anyone else completely miss the library? As in just use the file and then realize there was a library after........

Oh baby nooo! WHAT is you doing?!

[lsatextreme]

I must be the only fucking idiot who missed that aggregation of marijuana sales near school answer. I put plenary power over DC instead because for some reason I kept thinking about that other case the S Ct said no aggregate (was it gun sale near schools? Or something). Fuck.

[Dee099]

So CA decided to do 100 experimental questions I see.

[yost]

That was definitely tougher than I expected

[CAnow]

So CA decided to do 100 experimental questions I see.

I think there were about five real ones in there. That's about how many of my answers I felt confident about.

[maxmartin]

Weird MPT and harder than usual MBE. I think I am f... Lol

[maxmartin]

Also how did you guys analyze the transfer of Title of the condo into JT in the first question ?

I felt my analysis was super short each property

Is that Lucas Anti Lucas shit ?

[varcom24]

Also how did you guys analyze the transfer of Title of the condo into JT in the first question ?

I felt my analysis was super short each property

Is that Lucas Anti Lucas shit ?

I assumed that lucas applied when title is taken jointly. figured it wouldn't if title was originally taken in only one spouses name

[Pearl]

I thought so too: Lucas comes into play when the purchase is made with SP of one spouse or with part SP and part CP. Hal inherited his condo.
I was generous and gave Hal his the condo and the increased value of that Condo as well. However, my first thought was about Lucas too.
Now all Wendys and Hals, the jury, negligent drivers and BFPs with non-recorded mortgages are burning in my personal hell.