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Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by john1990 » Wed May 28, 2014 11:34 am

I believe NYS only requires that a student take one year of bar prep before they can sit for the bar. Is that correct? What are the easiest states to register for the bar in? I do not have the ability to finance 3 years of law school.

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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by johnnyquest » Wed May 28, 2014 11:47 am

Do you have a guaranteed job or something? Going solo? I doubt you would be able to land a worthwhile job. Graduates from good law schools can't find work right now. Why would you do this? Just curious.

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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by BeautifulSW » Wed May 28, 2014 11:49 am

Yeah, but it's an interesting alternative.

You might look at the New York rules. If you have just one year of law school, I think you have to work in a law office for a few years as well. I'm not at all sure about that, though, so check.

My vote for "best" state to read the law would be Washington. The bar runs a four year clerk program with a prescribed syllabus and regular examinations. The few who finish tend to pass the bar on their first attempt.

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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by john1990 » Wed May 28, 2014 12:29 pm

johnnyquest wrote:Do you have a guaranteed job or something? Going solo? I doubt you would be able to land a worthwhile job. Graduates from good law schools can't find work right now. Why would you do this? Just curious.
It is much cheaper to attend for only one year and take the bar.

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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by john1990 » Wed May 28, 2014 12:30 pm

Are there practice bar exams like their were practice lsat's. It would be good to be able to take an official bar exam from previous years

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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by johnnyquest » Wed May 28, 2014 12:33 pm

john1990 wrote:
johnnyquest wrote:Do you have a guaranteed job or something? Going solo? I doubt you would be able to land a worthwhile job. Graduates from good law schools can't find work right now. Why would you do this? Just curious.
It is much cheaper to attend for only one year and take the bar.
Who will hire you?

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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by john1990 » Wed May 28, 2014 12:38 pm

johnnyquest wrote:
john1990 wrote:
johnnyquest wrote:Do you have a guaranteed job or something? Going solo? I doubt you would be able to land a worthwhile job. Graduates from good law schools can't find work right now. Why would you do this? Just curious.
It is much cheaper to attend for only one year and take the bar.
Who will hire you?
I have a strong network and know two different small firms which have expressed interest in hiring me before on the condition that i pass the bar.

Also, as long as bar prep isn't that expensive I would be interested in passing the bar as a personal achievement and possibly go solo.
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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by DELG » Wed May 28, 2014 12:39 pm

john1990 wrote:
johnnyquest wrote:
john1990 wrote:
johnnyquest wrote:Do you have a guaranteed job or something? Going solo? I doubt you would be able to land a worthwhile job. Graduates from good law schools can't find work right now. Why would you do this? Just curious.
It is much cheaper to attend for only one year and take the bar.
Who will hire you?
I have a strong network and know two different small firms which have expressed interest in hiring me before on the condition that i pass the bar.
lol @ them meaning "without law school and and bar admission anywhere"

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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Wed May 28, 2014 12:40 pm

Don't they probably presume you're going to get a JD?

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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by john1990 » Wed May 28, 2014 12:42 pm

It is much cheaper to attend for only one year and take the bar.[/quote]

Who will hire you?[/quote]

I have a strong network and know two different small firms which have expressed interest in hiring me before on the condition that i pass the bar.[/quote]
lol @ them meaning "without law school and and bar admission anywhere"[/quote]

That is likely not what they meant. However, I am from a small city so the emphasis was not on law schools. These are small law firms as well. However, this would mostly be a low risk venture as long as I can keep my spending below $1,000 and use strictly prep books and previous bar exams (assuming I can find them) The reward of passing alone would outweigh the cost of the prep material.

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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by DELG » Wed May 28, 2014 12:45 pm

This is the penny wisest pound foolishest plan I've heard in a while

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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by NYSprague » Wed May 28, 2014 12:58 pm

http://www.courts.state.ny.us/ctapps/520rules10.htm

Read the rules. No one can just go to law school for a year and take the bar.
You also have to work fulltime in a law office for 3 or 4 years. There are other requirements as well.

I thought this was being phased out but maybe not.

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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by john1990 » Wed May 28, 2014 1:11 pm

DELG wrote:This is the penny wisest pound foolishest plan I've heard in a while

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The primary objective is not to find employment or to even register with the bar officially. I am not able to go to law school for personal reasons, but I would like to study for the exam regardless because I like to study law and because I would get a sense of accomplishment from passing a past bar exam even if it is not officially graded. This could cost me just a few hundred dollars and provide for some good reading at least.

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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by prezidentv8 » Wed May 28, 2014 1:21 pm

john1990 wrote:I would like to study for the exam regardless because I like to study law
How do you even know this?
john1990 wrote:I would get a sense of accomplishment from passing a past bar exam even if it is not officially graded.
How would you even know whether you passed?
john1990 wrote:This could cost me just a few hundred dollars
Highly doubtful.
john1990 wrote:and provide for some good reading at least.
lol no


ETA: good troll tho

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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by john1990 » Wed May 28, 2014 1:32 pm

prezidentv8 wrote:
john1990 wrote:I would like to study for the exam regardless because I like to study law
How do you even know this?
john1990 wrote:I would get a sense of accomplishment from passing a past bar exam even if it is not officially graded.
How would you even know whether you passed?
john1990 wrote:This could cost me just a few hundred dollars
Highly doubtful.
john1990 wrote:and provide for some good reading at least.
lol no


ETA: good troll tho
I went to Law School for one semester and placed in the top 25% of my class, but I am not willing to pay for more school. I know from law school that you can usually compare your answers to the sample answers and have a strong idea of how well you have done. I'm sure everyone has done this. Here is one bundle on Ebay for $75 which I suspect might contain everything that could be on the bar http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kaplan-New-York ... 1c40eebe55 Do you thin that bundle contains everything that could be on the bar?
I am already reading a crim law textbook as recreational reading.

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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by john1990 » Wed May 28, 2014 1:34 pm

Here is another bundle for $310, the other contains multistate books. Aren't these unneeded? What is your opinion on this bundle?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kaplan-Bar-Revi ... 3ce1c7b568

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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by Young Marino » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:15 am

My opinion is that you're an idiot. You should've just stayed in school and transferred if you were unhappy with your school.

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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by jarofsoup » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:45 am

I agree that this plan is completely stupid. But I think if by some mystical way you could pass the bar and THEN go to law school you would probably have an interesting experience with employment.

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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by BigZuck » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:48 am

Young Marino wrote:My opinion is that you're an idiot. You should've just stayed in school and transferred if you were unhappy with your school.
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Re: Easiest state to take the bar without law school

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:03 am

For god's sake don't necro idiotic posts.

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