UVA Law Students Taking Questions

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby UVA2B » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:41 pm

LawMan16 wrote:I've listed the professors the incoming 1Ls will have by section below. Would anyone care to opine who hit the lottery/should drop out now?

Section: CivPro/Contracts/Crim/Torts/LRW
A: Collins/Verkerke/Bonnie/Armacost/Fore
B: Collins/Kordana/Brown/Kendrick/Buck
C: Woolhandler/Mahoney/Brown/Stauss/Buck
D: Mitchell/Hynes/Harmon/Barzun/Buck
E: Mitchell/Johnson/Jeffries/Kendrick/Stewart
F: Bamzai/Hynes/Jeffries/Armacost/Fore
G: Woolhandler/Cohen/Bonnie/Abraham/Stewart
H: Spencer/Geis/Harmon/Johnston/Buck
I: Rutherglen/Mahoney/Ferzan/Johnston/Fore
J: Heytens/Geis/Ferzan/Abraham/Stewart

For ease of reference, here's an image version:
http://imgur.com/wZCI98d

Any thoughts are very much appreciated!


Section H is winning. Spencer will blow your mind as a small section Civpro prof. Geis will be awesome until he decides not to be. I haven't personally had Harmon or Buck, but Johnston will minimally entertain the entire class regularly because his crotchety is off the charts.

ETA: This is in no way a comment on any of the other professors, but my experience is limited, and there is a healthy range of awesome-->ugh in the list of 1L profs.
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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby rhododactylos » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:43 pm

LawMan16 wrote:I've listed the professors the incoming 1Ls will have by section below. Would anyone care to opine who hit the lottery/should drop out now?

Section: CivPro/Contracts/Crim/Torts/LRW
A: Collins/Verkerke/Bonnie/Armacost/Fore
B: Collins/Kordana/Brown/Kendrick/Buck
C: Woolhandler/Mahoney/Brown/Stauss/Buck
D: Mitchell/Hynes/Harmon/Barzun/Buck
E: Mitchell/Johnson/Jeffries/Kendrick/Stewart
F: Bamzai/Hynes/Jeffries/Armacost/Fore
G: Woolhandler/Cohen/Bonnie/Abraham/Stewart
H: Spencer/Geis/Harmon/Johnston/Buck
I: Rutherglen/Mahoney/Ferzan/Johnston/Fore
J: Heytens/Geis/Ferzan/Abraham/Stewart

For ease of reference, here's an image version:
http://imgur.com/wZCI98d

Any thoughts are very much appreciated!


E and H look great at first glance. Lots of big names missing from the roster this year--Nelson, Coughlin, and Harrison notably. And nice to see Dean Mahoney back!

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby UVA2B » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:45 pm

rhododactylos wrote:
LawMan16 wrote:I've listed the professors the incoming 1Ls will have by section below. Would anyone care to opine who hit the lottery/should drop out now?

Section: CivPro/Contracts/Crim/Torts/LRW
A: Collins/Verkerke/Bonnie/Armacost/Fore
B: Collins/Kordana/Brown/Kendrick/Buck
C: Woolhandler/Mahoney/Brown/Stauss/Buck
D: Mitchell/Hynes/Harmon/Barzun/Buck
E: Mitchell/Johnson/Jeffries/Kendrick/Stewart
F: Bamzai/Hynes/Jeffries/Armacost/Fore
G: Woolhandler/Cohen/Bonnie/Abraham/Stewart
H: Spencer/Geis/Harmon/Johnston/Buck
I: Rutherglen/Mahoney/Ferzan/Johnston/Fore
J: Heytens/Geis/Ferzan/Abraham/Stewart

For ease of reference, here's an image version:
http://imgur.com/wZCI98d

Any thoughts are very much appreciated!


E and H look great at first glance. Lots of big names missing from the roster this year--Nelson, Coughlin, and Harrison notably. And nice to see Dean Mahoney back!


Don't remind me.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby whats an updog » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:13 pm

rhododactylos wrote:
LawMan16 wrote:I've listed the professors the incoming 1Ls will have by section below. Would anyone care to opine who hit the lottery/should drop out now?

Section: CivPro/Contracts/Crim/Torts/LRW
A: Collins/Verkerke/Bonnie/Armacost/Fore
B: Collins/Kordana/Brown/Kendrick/Buck
C: Woolhandler/Mahoney/Brown/Stauss/Buck
D: Mitchell/Hynes/Harmon/Barzun/Buck
E: Mitchell/Johnson/Jeffries/Kendrick/Stewart
F: Bamzai/Hynes/Jeffries/Armacost/Fore
G: Woolhandler/Cohen/Bonnie/Abraham/Stewart
H: Spencer/Geis/Harmon/Johnston/Buck
I: Rutherglen/Mahoney/Ferzan/Johnston/Fore
J: Heytens/Geis/Ferzan/Abraham/Stewart

For ease of reference, here's an image version:
http://imgur.com/wZCI98d

Any thoughts are very much appreciated!


E and H look great at first glance. Lots of big names missing from the roster this year--Nelson, Coughlin, and Harrison notably. And nice to see Dean Mahoney back!


Agreed here. E and H are the best, with E maybe slightly edging it out, because it doesn't have a clear bad apple like H does. G is a runner up.

What are Nelson and Coughlin up to?
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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby UVA2B » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:16 pm

whats an updog wrote:
rhododactylos wrote:
LawMan16 wrote:I've listed the professors the incoming 1Ls will have by section below. Would anyone care to opine who hit the lottery/should drop out now?

Section: CivPro/Contracts/Crim/Torts/LRW
A: Collins/Verkerke/Bonnie/Armacost/Fore
B: Collins/Kordana/Brown/Kendrick/Buck
C: Woolhandler/Mahoney/Brown/Stauss/Buck
D: Mitchell/Hynes/Harmon/Barzun/Buck
E: Mitchell/Johnson/Jeffries/Kendrick/Stewart
F: Bamzai/Hynes/Jeffries/Armacost/Fore
G: Woolhandler/Cohen/Bonnie/Abraham/Stewart
H: Spencer/Geis/Harmon/Johnston/Buck
I: Rutherglen/Mahoney/Ferzan/Johnston/Fore
J: Heytens/Geis/Ferzan/Abraham/Stewart

For ease of reference, here's an image version:
http://imgur.com/wZCI98d

Any thoughts are very much appreciated!


E and H look great at first glance. Lots of big names missing from the roster this year--Nelson, Coughlin, and Harrison notably. And nice to see Dean Mahoney back!


Agreed here. E and H are the best, with E maybe slightly edging it out, because it doesn't have a clear bad apple like H does.

What are Nelson and Coughlin up to?


Nelson is teaching at Columbia for a semester. Not sure on Coughlin.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby RParadela » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:03 am

Did you guys attend the optional orientation on Friday? Debating on skipping it so I have some more time at home after backpacking

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby UVA2B » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:06 am

RParadela wrote:Did you guys attend the optional orientation on Friday? Debating on skipping it so I have some more time at home after backpacking


Go to it. It's worth your time, even if it just means meeting your classmates and getting yourself situated in the law school.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby sprezz » Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:05 am

skip that shit and find a brewery. the hallways are labeled; you can get situated later, it takes 45 seconds. your ass got into this school, you can figure it out

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby jaekeem » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:56 am

RParadela wrote:Did you guys attend the optional orientation on Friday? Debating on skipping it so I have some more time at home after backpacking

I would just go backpacking if you enjoy that more

at the end of the day you'll bond most with your section, and you may not even see them at the optional orientation

UVA2B wrote:
LawMan16 wrote:I've listed the professors the incoming 1Ls will have by section below. Would anyone care to opine who hit the lottery/should drop out now?

Section: CivPro/Contracts/Crim/Torts/LRW
A: Collins/Verkerke/Bonnie/Armacost/Fore
B: Collins/Kordana/Brown/Kendrick/Buck
C: Woolhandler/Mahoney/Brown/Stauss/Buck
D: Mitchell/Hynes/Harmon/Barzun/Buck
E: Mitchell/Johnson/Jeffries/Kendrick/Stewart
F: Bamzai/Hynes/Jeffries/Armacost/Fore
G: Woolhandler/Cohen/Bonnie/Abraham/Stewart
H: Spencer/Geis/Harmon/Johnston/Buck
I: Rutherglen/Mahoney/Ferzan/Johnston/Fore
J: Heytens/Geis/Ferzan/Abraham/Stewart

For ease of reference, here's an image version:
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Any thoughts are very much appreciated!


Section H is winning. Spencer will blow your mind as a small section Civpro prof. Geis will be awesome until he decides not to be. I haven't personally had Harmon or Buck, but Johnston will minimally entertain the entire class regularly because his crotchety is off the charts.

ETA: This is in no way a comment on any of the other professors, but my experience is limited, and there is a healthy range of awesome-->ugh in the list of 1L profs.


were you in my section.... :D

spencer civ pro is wonderful, agreed

his seminar is cool too. great guy.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby OtterLaw » Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:44 am

LawMan16 wrote:I've listed the professors the incoming 1Ls will have by section below. Would anyone care to opine who hit the lottery/should drop out now?

Section: CivPro/Contracts/Crim/Torts/LRW
A: Collins/Verkerke/Bonnie/Armacost/Fore
B: Collins/Kordana/Brown/Kendrick/Buck
C: Woolhandler/Mahoney/Brown/Stauss/Buck
D: Mitchell/Hynes/Harmon/Barzun/Buck
E: Mitchell/Johnson/Jeffries/Kendrick/Stewart
F: Bamzai/Hynes/Jeffries/Armacost/Fore
G: Woolhandler/Cohen/Bonnie/Abraham/Stewart
H: Spencer/Geis/Harmon/Johnston/Buck
I: Rutherglen/Mahoney/Ferzan/Johnston/Fore
J: Heytens/Geis/Ferzan/Abraham/Stewart

For ease of reference, here's an image version:
http://imgur.com/wZCI98d

Any thoughts are very much appreciated!


Sections A and G with Bonnie for Crim.....I'm so, so, SO sorry. Pray for them. It's awful.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Nagster5 » Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:55 am

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby SeewhathappensLarry » Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:37 am

whats an updog wrote:
rhododactylos wrote:
LawMan16 wrote:I've listed the professors the incoming 1Ls will have by section below. Would anyone care to opine who hit the lottery/should drop out now?

Section: CivPro/Contracts/Crim/Torts/LRW
A: Collins/Verkerke/Bonnie/Armacost/Fore
B: Collins/Kordana/Brown/Kendrick/Buck
C: Woolhandler/Mahoney/Brown/Stauss/Buck
D: Mitchell/Hynes/Harmon/Barzun/Buck
E: Mitchell/Johnson/Jeffries/Kendrick/Stewart
F: Bamzai/Hynes/Jeffries/Armacost/Fore
G: Woolhandler/Cohen/Bonnie/Abraham/Stewart
H: Spencer/Geis/Harmon/Johnston/Buck
I: Rutherglen/Mahoney/Ferzan/Johnston/Fore
J: Heytens/Geis/Ferzan/Abraham/Stewart

For ease of reference, here's an image version:
http://imgur.com/wZCI98d

Any thoughts are very much appreciated!


E and H look great at first glance. Lots of big names missing from the roster this year--Nelson, Coughlin, and Harrison notably. And nice to see Dean Mahoney back!


Agreed here. E and H are the best, with E maybe slightly edging it out, because it doesn't have a clear bad apple like H does. G is a runner up.

What are Nelson and Coughlin up to?



The drawback of E is that it has Alex Johnson. He's an acquired taste for a few and others absolutely despise him.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby sprezz » Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:55 am

SeewhathappensLarry wrote:The drawback of E is that it has Alex Johnson. He's an acquired taste for a few and others absolutely despise him.


was waiting for this post :D

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby VirginiaFan » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:21 pm

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby whats an updog » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:47 pm

SeewhathappensLarry wrote:
whats an updog wrote:
rhododactylos wrote:
LawMan16 wrote:I've listed the professors the incoming 1Ls will have by section below. Would anyone care to opine who hit the lottery/should drop out now?

Section: CivPro/Contracts/Crim/Torts/LRW
A: Collins/Verkerke/Bonnie/Armacost/Fore
B: Collins/Kordana/Brown/Kendrick/Buck
C: Woolhandler/Mahoney/Brown/Stauss/Buck
D: Mitchell/Hynes/Harmon/Barzun/Buck
E: Mitchell/Johnson/Jeffries/Kendrick/Stewart
F: Bamzai/Hynes/Jeffries/Armacost/Fore
G: Woolhandler/Cohen/Bonnie/Abraham/Stewart
H: Spencer/Geis/Harmon/Johnston/Buck
I: Rutherglen/Mahoney/Ferzan/Johnston/Fore
J: Heytens/Geis/Ferzan/Abraham/Stewart

For ease of reference, here's an image version:
http://imgur.com/wZCI98d

Any thoughts are very much appreciated!


E and H look great at first glance. Lots of big names missing from the roster this year--Nelson, Coughlin, and Harrison notably. And nice to see Dean Mahoney back!


Agreed here. E and H are the best, with E maybe slightly edging it out, because it doesn't have a clear bad apple like H does. G is a runner up.

What are Nelson and Coughlin up to?



The drawback of E is that it has Alex Johnson. He's an acquired taste for a few and others absolutely despise him.


Fair, then maybe a wash with H.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby thebrownnote » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:12 am

whats an updog wrote:
SeewhathappensLarry wrote:
whats an updog wrote:
rhododactylos wrote:
LawMan16 wrote:I've listed the professors the incoming 1Ls will have by section below. Would anyone care to opine who hit the lottery/should drop out now?

Section: CivPro/Contracts/Crim/Torts/LRW
A: Collins/Verkerke/Bonnie/Armacost/Fore
B: Collins/Kordana/Brown/Kendrick/Buck
C: Woolhandler/Mahoney/Brown/Stauss/Buck
D: Mitchell/Hynes/Harmon/Barzun/Buck
E: Mitchell/Johnson/Jeffries/Kendrick/Stewart
F: Bamzai/Hynes/Jeffries/Armacost/Fore
G: Woolhandler/Cohen/Bonnie/Abraham/Stewart
H: Spencer/Geis/Harmon/Johnston/Buck
I: Rutherglen/Mahoney/Ferzan/Johnston/Fore
J: Heytens/Geis/Ferzan/Abraham/Stewart

For ease of reference, here's an image version:
http://imgur.com/wZCI98d

Any thoughts are very much appreciated!


E and H look great at first glance. Lots of big names missing from the roster this year--Nelson, Coughlin, and Harrison notably. And nice to see Dean Mahoney back!


Agreed here. E and H are the best, with E maybe slightly edging it out, because it doesn't have a clear bad apple like H does. G is a runner up.

What are Nelson and Coughlin up to?



The drawback of E is that it has Alex Johnson. He's an acquired taste for a few and others absolutely despise him.


Fair, then maybe a wash with H.


If you're an incoming 1L reading this post in August after discovering your section, don't let all this chatter phase you. I know people that like all the professors that were referenced negatively above, and I know people who can't stand the venerated. Don't worry about it; your section is fine.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby UVA2B » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:54 am

thebrownnote wrote:
LawMan16 wrote:I've listed the professors the incoming 1Ls will have by section below. Would anyone care to opine who hit the lottery/should drop out now?

Section: CivPro/Contracts/Crim/Torts/LRW
A: Collins/Verkerke/Bonnie/Armacost/Fore
B: Collins/Kordana/Brown/Kendrick/Buck
C: Woolhandler/Mahoney/Brown/Stauss/Buck
D: Mitchell/Hynes/Harmon/Barzun/Buck
E: Mitchell/Johnson/Jeffries/Kendrick/Stewart
F: Bamzai/Hynes/Jeffries/Armacost/Fore
G: Woolhandler/Cohen/Bonnie/Abraham/Stewart
H: Spencer/Geis/Harmon/Johnston/Buck
I: Rutherglen/Mahoney/Ferzan/Johnston/Fore
J: Heytens/Geis/Ferzan/Abraham/Stewart

For ease of reference, here's an image version:
http://imgur.com/wZCI98d

Any thoughts are very much appreciated!



If you're an incoming 1L reading this post in August after discovering your section, don't let all this chatter phase you. I know people that like all the professors that were referenced negatively above, and I know people who can't stand the venerated. Don't worry about it; your section is fine.


This is really important. There are some generally more scary profs and others that are universally loved, but for a given student, you might gel with the prof seemingly everyone questions and those who end up disappointed by a fan favorite. The faculty at UVA is awesomely accommodating and foster a remarkable learning environment, even if it doesn't seem like it at the time.

Case in point: my two favorite professors from 1L were my two lowest grades. It sucks, but their ability to teach has nothing to do with my performance in their class.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Nagster5 » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:05 am

thebrownnote wrote:
whats an updog wrote:
SeewhathappensLarry wrote:
whats an updog wrote:
rhododactylos wrote:
LawMan16 wrote:I've listed the professors the incoming 1Ls will have by section below. Would anyone care to opine who hit the lottery/should drop out now?

Section: CivPro/Contracts/Crim/Torts/LRW
A: Collins/Verkerke/Bonnie/Armacost/Fore
B: Collins/Kordana/Brown/Kendrick/Buck
C: Woolhandler/Mahoney/Brown/Stauss/Buck
D: Mitchell/Hynes/Harmon/Barzun/Buck
E: Mitchell/Johnson/Jeffries/Kendrick/Stewart
F: Bamzai/Hynes/Jeffries/Armacost/Fore
G: Woolhandler/Cohen/Bonnie/Abraham/Stewart
H: Spencer/Geis/Harmon/Johnston/Buck
I: Rutherglen/Mahoney/Ferzan/Johnston/Fore
J: Heytens/Geis/Ferzan/Abraham/Stewart

For ease of reference, here's an image version:
http://imgur.com/wZCI98d

Any thoughts are very much appreciated!


E and H look great at first glance. Lots of big names missing from the roster this year--Nelson, Coughlin, and Harrison notably. And nice to see Dean Mahoney back!


Agreed here. E and H are the best, with E maybe slightly edging it out, because it doesn't have a clear bad apple like H does. G is a runner up.

What are Nelson and Coughlin up to?



The drawback of E is that it has Alex Johnson. He's an acquired taste for a few and others absolutely despise him.


Fair, then maybe a wash with H.


If you're an incoming 1L reading this post in August after discovering your section, don't let all this chatter phase you. I know people that like all the professors that were referenced negatively above, and I know people who can't stand the venerated. Don't worry about it; your section is fine.


I agree with your sentiment, but I have trouble believing someone "can't stand" Kendrick.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby philawsopher » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:11 pm

SomeElleWoodsJoke wrote:I know it won't be conclusive, but if we have any new VLR members with like below a 3.8, would you toss out your GPAs? If invites are done (yes, people transfer but I refuse to understand it) I want to know just how close I was :roll:


Second.

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Postby smile0751 » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:15 pm

philawsopher wrote:
SomeElleWoodsJoke wrote:I know it won't be conclusive, but if we have any new VLR members with like below a 3.8, would you toss out your GPAs? If invites are done (yes, people transfer but I refuse to understand it) I want to know just how close I was :roll:


Second.


Knowing this won't be as useful as you think because people with high gpas may still have written on or been accepted through the Virginia plan. Also, I don't know that much about the new admittance rules but my understanding is that they may also complicate trying to find out the grade-on cut off.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby thebrownnote » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:30 pm

philawsopher wrote:
SomeElleWoodsJoke wrote:I know it won't be conclusive, but if we have any new VLR members with like below a 3.8, would you toss out your GPAs? If invites are done (yes, people transfer but I refuse to understand it) I want to know just how close I was :roll:


Second.


Seems like those of you who are asking should toss out your GPAs, that way the people who are on VLR will be able to tell whether they wrote-on or graded on. If you have a 3.75 and someone chimes in saying they got on VLR with a 3.74, that doesn't do much to clear things up unless you make your gpa public first.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby rhododactylos » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:46 pm

I'm not sure how helpful this is but it was ~3.77 for the Class of 2017, when 25 people graded on instead of 15. That was considered an abnormally high cutoff. Most previous years it had been in the low 3.7's.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Mia93 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:57 am

Hello! New to Charlottesville and looking for somewhere to buy furniture. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Mrs Featherbottom » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:46 am

Mia93 wrote:Hello! New to Charlottesville and looking for somewhere to buy furniture. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!


I bought a lot of my furniture last summer here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/216063258498780/

If that link doesn't work for you, it's the "Free & For Sale" group for the main campus. You'll need an @virginia.edu email to join though.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby UVA2B » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:52 am

Mia93 wrote:Hello! New to Charlottesville and looking for somewhere to buy furniture. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!


Are you looking to buy new or used? Mrs. F gave a good suggestion if you're looking for the used furniture market (which is honestly the better call since this furniture will likely be temporary as a law student). Otherwise, if you're looking for nicer, newer, longer-lasting furniture your best bets are Grand Furniture on 29 or Haverty's on I-64.




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