After Grades Considering Dropping out

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Gus Fring
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After Grades Considering Dropping out

Postby Gus Fring » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:05 pm

i'm in a 1L at a T10 and I now have a 2.9 GPA. I got all B's and 1 B- this is demoralizing. All the studying and prepping I did and I still failed miserably. 2 and half more years of getting my ego crushed doesn't seem appealing. I couldnt even muster 1 median grade, I'm not fit to be a lawyer.

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CardozoLaw09
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Re: After Grades Considering Dropping out

Postby CardozoLaw09 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:26 pm

You're at a T10 and have an entire semester left. Figure out what went wrong and make improvements. Re-evaluate your options after receiving back spring semester grades.

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Re: After Grades Considering Dropping out

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:57 pm

Keep in mind you're graded on a curve. Getting a lower score than your classmates doesn't remotely mean that you're not fit to be a lawyer, it means that on a given day, for whatever reason, your classmates performed slightly better on an artificial exercise of brand new skills than you did. It is not any kind of objective assessment of your lawyering ability (which is also not something born in you, but something that everyone has to learn). You have plenty of opportunity to improve.

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Re: After Grades Considering Dropping out

Postby Justtrying2help » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:57 pm

How much debt do you have?

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Re: After Grades Considering Dropping out

Postby mcmand » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:10 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:Keep in mind you're graded on a curve. Getting a lower score than your classmates doesn't remotely mean that you're not fit to be a lawyer, it means that on a given day, for whatever reason, your classmates performed slightly better on an artificial exercise of brand new skills than you did. It is not any kind of objective assessment of your lawyering ability (which is also not something born in you, but something that everyone has to learn). You have plenty of opportunity to improve.


This. OP, you're at a good law school, and depending on your curve, you're probably a little below median. You did not "fail miserably." You are competent and able to do this.

Dropping out is not worth it unless the circumstances are truly exceptional. Nothing you have said so far indicates exceptionalism. You're not at a crappy law school, you hopefully have some scholarships to mitigate the cost, you will find reasonable employment (depending on your goals) upon graduation, and in all likelihood you will become a lawyer. Just today, I talked to a 1L who got a C at a non-T-10 school. It will be fine for that 1L, and it will be fine for you.

It's OK to feel disappointed. Let yourself feel it. But don't beat yourself up while you're down. Take the weekend to feel your feelings and then start evaluating where to adjust your strategy and your approach to learning the material and preparing for the exam. There are resources on here and there are likely resources at your school. Don't let one setback that, frankly, is not the most egregious setback in terms of grades out there, compel you to make a decision that will leave you with regret and a foreclosed career path.

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Re: After Grades Considering Dropping out

Postby runinthefront » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:52 pm

Gus Fring wrote:I couldnt even muster 1 median grade, I'm not fit to be a lawyer.

This may end up proving true, but you can't possibly tell this based on one semester of grades. Switch up the gameplan this semester and reevaluate in the summer. Don't drop out before you try again.

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Re: After Grades Considering Dropping out

Postby mcmand » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:59 pm

runinthefront wrote:
Gus Fring wrote:I couldnt even muster 1 median grade, I'm not fit to be a lawyer.

This may end up proving true, but you can't possibly tell this based on one semester of grades. Switch up the gameplan this semester and reevaluate in the summer. Don't drop out before you try again.


Why would you say this could end up proving true? Straight B's and a B- are not indications of a lack of fitness to be a lawyer. Don't reaffirm OP's negative thoughts that aren't actually reflective of reality.

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Re: After Grades Considering Dropping out

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:01 pm

I mean, there are plenty of people with like 4.0s who aren't cut out to be lawyers, really. The OP doesn't know yet if he'll be a good lawyer but if he's not it won't be because of his grades.

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Re: After Grades Considering Dropping out

Postby runinthefront » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:02 pm

mcmand wrote:
runinthefront wrote:
Gus Fring wrote:I couldnt even muster 1 median grade, I'm not fit to be a lawyer.

This may end up proving true, but you can't possibly tell this based on one semester of grades. Switch up the gameplan this semester and reevaluate in the summer. Don't drop out before you try again.


Why would you say this could end up proving true? Straight B's and a B- are not indications of a lack of fitness to be a lawyer. Don't reaffirm OP's negative thoughts that aren't actually reflective of reality.

Because (1) OP may not be able to raise OP's grades, and (2) OP may not be fit to be a lawyer and may be better at other things,

but one semester of law grades, and especially the grades from the first semester of 1L year, doesn't shed light on the likelihood of either possibility, so there's no reason to accept either possibility as true at this time. I don't disagree that grades don't correspond to fitness to practice.

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Re: After Grades Considering Dropping out

Postby anonymous117 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:01 pm

The only reason you should drop out is if you are no longer interested in being a lawyer or studying law, but your grades shouldn’t determine that.

1L is tough. First semester is especially so. Everyone knows that, including future employers. As someone mentioned, you’re graded on a curve, and you shouldn’t let that define you. I have friends who got all B’s first semester and went on to make law review or get jobs at V10 firms, and that’s because they saw this as an opportunity to improve and learn how to talk about their experience.

I would recommend reaching out to every one of your professors from last semester and asking if you can review your exam with them. They can give you a sense of what you were doing wrong. After each meeting, jot down what they said so you remember it. Then, I would go to your academic advisor or some other trusted mentor and make a gameplan for how to improve and what to do differently. This isn’t the end of the world, and if you put in the work and make a big improvement, that’ll speak more about you to employers than poor first semester grades will.

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Re: After Grades Considering Dropping out

Postby Teoeo » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:11 pm

I had similar grades in 1L at GW, and I now happily work in a bigfed job. It is doable, as long as you plan well and know what you want.

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Re: After Grades Considering Dropping out

Postby Civilservant » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:13 pm

You are living in the bubble of law students who are narcissistic about every little accomplishment that comes to them. Your life isn't over. The first year is a grind, and you will come out the other end of it. Study hard, be humble, and good things will happen.




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