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1L Class participation policy

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:42 pm
by asdf2017
Some professors have such grading policy that they can adjust your grade up or down 1/3 tic based on your class participation.
My question is: how much is too much weight for grading 1L class participation in general?
Can professor say that 30% of your final grade will be class participation? How about 20% or 10%?

Re: 1L Class participation policy

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:56 pm
by MKC
It's best to raise your hand at every opportunity just to be safe.

Re: 1L Class participation policy

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:01 pm
by sparkytrainer
Yeah just participate. I had a 1l professor who could increase or decrease your grade by .3 if she wanted (and she did, often).

Re: 1L Class participation policy

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:16 pm
by cavalier1138
No one actually assigns a percentage to class participation like that.

I'm actually surprised to hear about a professor who takes advantage of their ability to adjust grades based on participation. Almost all of my teachers said that they could do it, but that they were very much not inclined to, because raising someone's grade almost always means that someone else will get bumped down unfairly. Adjusting grades down for participation is pretty much unheard of. You can get adjusted down for not attending class or for very obviously not preparing. But you will not get adjusted down for not raising your hand enough.

Re: 1L Class participation policy

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:30 pm
by Mrs Featherbottom
cavalier1138 wrote:No one actually assigns a percentage to class participation like that.

I'm actually surprised to hear about a professor who takes advantage of their ability to adjust grades based on participation. Almost all of my teachers said that they could do it, but that they were very much not inclined to, because raising someone's grade almost always means that someone else will get bumped down unfairly. Adjusting grades down for participation is pretty much unheard of. You can get adjusted down for not attending class or for very obviously not preparing. But you will not get adjusted down for not raising your hand enough.
This sounds correct to me, although 1L grading is such a black box that it's really difficult to tell the degree to which any given professor takes participation/attendance into account.

My advice would be that if a professor says that she factors in participation, try to show up to class and not be caught totally unprepared when called on, but don't stress about it more than that.

Re: 1L Class participation policy

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:52 pm
by daisrt
asdf2017 wrote:Some professors have such grading policy that they can adjust your grade up or down 1/3 tic based on your class participation.
My question is: how much is too much weight for grading 1L class participation in general?
Can professor say that 30% of your final grade will be class participation? How about 20% or 10%?
This sounds pretty professor (and therefore school) specific; if tenured and even if not, professors can do whatever they want with grades. I'd ask students who had the professor before.

Re: 1L Class participation policy

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:03 pm
by RSN
This almost sounds like a new professor asking the question, based on the wording

Best policy I think is to say class participation may be taken into account at the margins, but without any numerical aspect attached

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by MKC
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