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Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby taxman14 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:01 pm

Just curious - are lots of law students stoners or, if not, do many smoke from time to time (I'm sure this varies depending on the school). Share your thoughts!
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Re: Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby Alive97 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:21 pm

I might suggest asking this question on a different account.

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Re: Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby acr » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:29 pm

Alive97 wrote:I might suggest asking this question on a different account.


Why? What's going to happen? This is bizarre.

You think OP's law school will notice this post, scour OP's message history, compare the results to their admissions data to discern OP's identity, and revoke his acceptance because OP asked a simple question about whether people smoke in law school?

Stop being a neurotic law student.

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Re: Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby taxman14 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:34 pm

acr wrote:
Alive97 wrote:I might suggest asking this question on a different account.


Why? What's going to happen? This is bizarre.

You think OP's law school will notice this post, scour OP's message history, compare the results to their admissions data to discern OP's identity, and revoke his acceptance because OP asked a simple question about whether people smoke in law school?

Stop being a neurotic law student.


Also... you know that it is legal in some states

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Re: Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby DorkothyParker » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:39 pm

You should follow the laws of whatever state you are located in.

It's clear many students and professionals on this sub drink and drink well into inebriation. You would know your own ability to achieve your goals while still engaging in whatever hobbies you may have.

Ps. Love your IRS records pic. I'm trying to find their early 80's compilations on vinyl, but they seem pretty rare if existing anywhere.

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Re: Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby rpupkin » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:55 pm

taxman14 wrote:Just curious - are lots of law students stoners or, if not, do many smoke from time to time (I'm sure this varies depending on the school). Share your thoughts!

Yeah, I'm sure it varies depending on school. A significant percentage of students at my law school smoked pot at least occasionally. Also, I know quite a few lawyers who smoke.

One more thing: although smoking pot is legal in some states, it is still illegal under federal law. This matters because there are certain federal jobs (including coveted AUSA positions) where past illegal drug use may prevent you from getting hired.

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Re: Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby flashdril » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:40 pm

Nice try, the police.

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Re: Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby MarkinKansasCity » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:45 pm

flashdril wrote:Nice try, the police.


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Re: Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:10 pm

rpupkin wrote:
taxman14 wrote:Just curious - are lots of law students stoners or, if not, do many smoke from time to time (I'm sure this varies depending on the school). Share your thoughts!

Yeah, I'm sure it varies depending on school. A significant percentage of students at my law school smoked pot at least occasionally. Also, I know quite a few lawyers who smoke.

One more thing: although smoking pot is legal in some states, it is still illegal under federal law. This matters because there are certain federal jobs (including coveted AUSA positions) where past illegal drug use may prevent you from getting hired.


Isn't this only an issue if you have a medical card or a criminal record? I know AUSA's who used to get lit (although not any that continue to use in their current position)

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Re: Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby rpupkin » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:20 pm

jbagelboy wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
taxman14 wrote:Just curious - are lots of law students stoners or, if not, do many smoke from time to time (I'm sure this varies depending on the school). Share your thoughts!

Yeah, I'm sure it varies depending on school. A significant percentage of students at my law school smoked pot at least occasionally. Also, I know quite a few lawyers who smoke.

One more thing: although smoking pot is legal in some states, it is still illegal under federal law. This matters because there are certain federal jobs (including coveted AUSA positions) where past illegal drug use may prevent you from getting hired.


Isn't this only an issue if you have a medical card or a criminal record?

No. You're asked to self report the nature and frequency of your past illegal drug use. (You could lie, I suppose, but that's risky given that the consequences of being caught could include disbarment.)

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Re: Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby kellyfrost » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:13 pm

When I first saw the thread title I thought this was going to be a thread about smoking tobacco. Not that I have an opinion on smoking tobacco or not, but I was going to point you in the direction of the chewing tobacco thread and the chewing tobacco in the office thread. Both are SOLID threads. Feel free to join the discussion.


As far as smoking weed I don't have any thoughts one way or the other.

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Re: Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:33 pm

jbagelboy wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
taxman14 wrote:Just curious - are lots of law students stoners or, if not, do many smoke from time to time (I'm sure this varies depending on the school). Share your thoughts!

Yeah, I'm sure it varies depending on school. A significant percentage of students at my law school smoked pot at least occasionally. Also, I know quite a few lawyers who smoke.

One more thing: although smoking pot is legal in some states, it is still illegal under federal law. This matters because there are certain federal jobs (including coveted AUSA positions) where past illegal drug use may prevent you from getting hired.


Isn't this only an issue if you have a medical card or a criminal record? I know AUSA's who used to get lit (although not any that continue to use in their current position)

Depends how much and how recent.

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Re: Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby rpupkin » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:36 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:Depends how much and how recent.

I've heard that any use during the previous year is trouble, and that frequent use in law school (and especially frequent use after being admitted to practice) is a problem.

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Re: Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby $$$$$$ » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:35 pm

rpupkin wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Depends how much and how recent.

I've heard that any use during the previous year is trouble, and that frequent use in law school (and especially frequent use after being admitted to practice) is a problem.


In what way? If you want to be in the DOJ or FBI? Otherwise, this is ridiculous

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Re: Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby rpupkin » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:38 pm

$$$$$$ wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Depends how much and how recent.

I've heard that any use during the previous year is trouble, and that frequent use in law school (and especially frequent use after being admitted to practice) is a problem.


In what way? If you want to be in the DOJ or FBI?

Yes. And even within the DOJ, past illegal drug use is more or less of a problem depending on the position.

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Re: Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:40 pm

rpupkin wrote:
$$$$$$ wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Depends how much and how recent.

I've heard that any use during the previous year is trouble, and that frequent use in law school (and especially frequent use after being admitted to practice) is a problem.


In what way? If you want to be in the DOJ or FBI?

Yes. And even within the DOJ, past illegal drug use is more or less of a problem depending on the position.


I guess this would be the first time anyone lied about doing drugs

But seriously, I understand the declarations that may be required for law enforcement. That doesn't mean no AUSA's smoked weed in college

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Re: Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby rpupkin » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:46 pm

jbagelboy wrote:But seriously, I understand the declarations that may be required for law enforcement. That doesn't mean no AUSA's smoked weed in college

Right. I personally know more than one. As Nony said, it depends on how much and how recent. If you last smoked eight years ago in undergrad, you're probably fine. But if you smoked in the past year or so, you might have issues. And as far as the "lying" part goes, be aware that—at least for certain DOJ positions—the feds will send FBI agents out to interview people from your past, including ex-bfs and ex-gfs. They'll ask about your drug use.

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Re: Thoughts on smoking in law school?

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:49 pm

jbagelboy wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
$$$$$$ wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Depends how much and how recent.

I've heard that any use during the previous year is trouble, and that frequent use in law school (and especially frequent use after being admitted to practice) is a problem.


In what way? If you want to be in the DOJ or FBI?

Yes. And even within the DOJ, past illegal drug use is more or less of a problem depending on the position.


I guess this would be the first time anyone lied about doing drugs

But seriously, I understand the declarations that may be required for law enforcement. That doesn't mean no AUSA's smoked weed in college

Of course it doesn't. But the thread isn't about smoking weed in college.




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