Re: Vandy 2L Taking Question
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:04 am
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Did not have Serkin - cant remember anything being said good or bad about him by friends who did.do_me_a_favor wrote:do any of you have experience with SERKIN (property), KAY (crim law), or SITARAMAN (reg state)??? any recommended supplements or exam advice? sorry for being a big fat gunner
Would love to hear more about this. It's hard to land Nashville big law as a vandy grad? Is this because they hunt for t14 students or because there are few big law jobs in Nashville?rad lulz wrote:If you're above medians you can get some solid ass monies.Stupe wrote:If you're getting good money from Vandy you've already got pretty killer numbers though, which would probably get you money elsewhere. To me, Vandy's in an awkward stage. Great school, but still not as good nationally as the T14. Dominates the region, but tuition is too fucking high if all you want is something in the region. $150k debt isn't pretty when you're pulling sub-$60k/yr anyway.rad lulz wrote:Or you could get into Vandy with money.Stupe wrote:^Disappointing. For me, the whole point of going to Vandy would be getting a Nashville jerb. Otherwise it seems like you're better off going to a) a state school w/ $$ if you want regional work or b) a T14 if you want big law.
Eh, whatever. Vanderbilt is still my #1 target simply because I have no plans of leaving the South. Just wish that shit was cheaper (lol, really just higher education in general).
Also "national mobility" is a flame. There are a lot of threads about this and ties, so I won't bother explaining that here.
Nashville (and Tennessee as a whole for that matter) simply isn't that big of a legal market. Its is very saturated with Vandy grads, especially at the biglaw and "prestigious" non-biglaw firms, but the summer class sizes really aren't that big and, despite not having a huge class, Vandy has far more students that will get hired each year in Nashville. Nashville is probably easier to land from Vandy than just about any school not HYS though. (Really, networking for Nashville does itself for you due to all the firm sponsored events).somedeadman wrote:Would love to hear more about this. It's hard to land Nashville big law as a vandy grad? Is this because they hunt for t14 students or because there are few big law jobs in Nashville?rad lulz wrote:If you're above medians you can get some solid ass monies.Stupe wrote:If you're getting good money from Vandy you've already got pretty killer numbers though, which would probably get you money elsewhere. To me, Vandy's in an awkward stage. Great school, but still not as good nationally as the T14. Dominates the region, but tuition is too fucking high if all you want is something in the region. $150k debt isn't pretty when you're pulling sub-$60k/yr anyway.rad lulz wrote:Or you could get into Vandy with money.Stupe wrote:^Disappointing. For me, the whole point of going to Vandy would be getting a Nashville jerb. Otherwise it seems like you're better off going to a) a state school w/ $$ if you want regional work or b) a T14 if you want big law.
Eh, whatever. Vanderbilt is still my #1 target simply because I have no plans of leaving the South. Just wish that shit was cheaper (lol, really just higher education in general).
Also "national mobility" is a flame. There are a lot of threads about this and ties, so I won't bother explaining that here.
IIRC there is (was) a 20 day deadline from the end to the exam period for grades to be posted. Most professors take most of that time, especially for fall grades (holidays and whatnot). My last 1L grade wasn't posted until like Jan 15. Probably worth checking out for a few days and enjoying the rest of break.The Abyss wrote:When do grades typically get posted for 1Ls? Should I just stop looking at YES until the new year?
Awesome, thanks for the detailed response!Right2BearArms wrote:
Nashville (and Tennessee as a whole for that matter) simply isn't that big of a legal market. Its is very saturated with Vandy grads, especially at the biglaw and "prestigious" non-biglaw firms, but the summer class sizes really aren't that big and, despite not having a huge class, Vandy has far more students that will get hired each year in Nashville. Nashville is probably easier to land from Vandy than just about any school not HYS though. (Really, networking for Nashville does itself for you due to all the firm sponsored events).
That being said, Vandy has good mobility in the South/Texas and does ok into NYC, DC and Chicago all things considered. Plenty in my class stayed in Nashville and TN, a lot went to Birmingham or ATL. Several went to Dallas, several more (including myself) to Houston. I know people who landed biglaw in NYC, Boston, Chicago, CA and across most of the Midwest (think KC/Cincinnati etc.).
I chose Vandy because I did not want six figures of debt at graduation. I don't advise going into much more debt than I did because BigLaw is not a sure thing from Vandy, but for me it was the best and correct choice looking back.
Vandy is nationally mobile, but not for everyone. Of the non-t14s I think is likely the most mobile, though some of that is probably due to self-selection (lots of UT grads stay in Texas, lots of UCLA grads stay in Cali). Partially too it is out of necessity since the markets near Vandy are not that large.somedeadman wrote:Awesome, thanks for the detailed response!Right2BearArms wrote:
Nashville (and Tennessee as a whole for that matter) simply isn't that big of a legal market. Its is very saturated with Vandy grads, especially at the biglaw and "prestigious" non-biglaw firms, but the summer class sizes really aren't that big and, despite not having a huge class, Vandy has far more students that will get hired each year in Nashville. Nashville is probably easier to land from Vandy than just about any school not HYS though. (Really, networking for Nashville does itself for you due to all the firm sponsored events).
That being said, Vandy has good mobility in the South/Texas and does ok into NYC, DC and Chicago all things considered. Plenty in my class stayed in Nashville and TN, a lot went to Birmingham or ATL. Several went to Dallas, several more (including myself) to Houston. I know people who landed biglaw in NYC, Boston, Chicago, CA and across most of the Midwest (think KC/Cincinnati etc.).
I chose Vandy because I did not want six figures of debt at graduation. I don't advise going into much more debt than I did because BigLaw is not a sure thing from Vandy, but for me it was the best and correct choice looking back.
What do you think of the idea that national mobility is BS, as one poster earlier in the thread mentioned?
Have never had Kay so idk about that.do_me_a_favor wrote:do any of you have experience with SERKIN (property), KAY (crim law), or SITARAMAN (reg state)??? any recommended supplements or exam advice? sorry for being a big fat gunner
The deadline is Jan 16, so they should all be up by then. Have not heard of any profs going beyond the deadlineScalvert wrote:Anyone remember just how far into the second semester you have to wait to receive the last of your grades? The 30 days is up this weekend, surely it won't be longer than that.
Likely by the end of the week the registrar will post cut offs on the intranet for each class (class of 2017/18/19). The cut offs I have seen have been as low as 3.71 and as high as 3.85.Scalvert wrote:How/when do they let you know if you made Dean's List?
it is posted on the intranet nowScalvert wrote:How/when do they let you know if you made Dean's List?
Thanks, judging from the cutoffs you posted earlier, I probably shouldn't worry about it. But just in case, where do I find it? I looked under "Academic Life" and a couple of other places - I'm probably missing something obvious.Pure Applesauce wrote:it is posted on the intranet nowScalvert wrote:How/when do they let you know if you made Dean's List?
Scalvert wrote:Thanks, judging from the cutoffs you posted earlier, I probably shouldn't worry about it. But just in case, where do I find it? I looked under "Academic Life" and a couple of other places - I'm probably missing something obvious.Pure Applesauce wrote:it is posted on the intranet nowScalvert wrote:How/when do they let you know if you made Dean's List?
Thanks! I'm assuming if it changes, it will just be a couple of hundredths, so it won't matter. Ehhh. I'm ok with it.Pure Applesauce wrote:Scalvert wrote:Thanks, judging from the cutoffs you posted earlier, I probably shouldn't worry about it. But just in case, where do I find it? I looked under "Academic Life" and a couple of other places - I'm probably missing something obvious.Pure Applesauce wrote:it is posted on the intranet nowScalvert wrote:How/when do they let you know if you made Dean's List?
It is actually no longer on there, so for some reason they took it down. But you go to intranet --> academic life tab (toward the top) --> awards and journals tab (on the left side) --> then you will see a link
I don't know why they took down the cut offs (they had them up earlier in the day), but if you go to YES and look at your grades, it will say "Dean's List" under "major"
I can't remember exactly, but the cut offs I saw earlier were close to:
3Ls: 3.85
2Ls: 3.838
1Ls: 3.74 (ish)
I'm not 100% sure, but I think that's pretty close.
Also, maybe they took them down because they will change or something, so don't take those numbers to the bank.
Me either, so I don't think they will be. But they were also taken down (they are no longer posted) and I just wasn't sure why.arklaw13 wrote:I've never seen the cutoffs change once they've been posted. Only thing that will be updated are the book awards when more profs add theirs to the list.
There was a way to view the documents that had been uploaded to each page whether they currently showed up or not. I can't access the intranet page now, and I can't remember how to do it offhand, though.Pure Applesauce wrote:Me either, so I don't think they will be. But they were also taken down (they are no longer posted) and I just wasn't sure why.arklaw13 wrote:I've never seen the cutoffs change once they've been posted. Only thing that will be updated are the book awards when more profs add theirs to the list.
Ok! Before the semester started, I would've been very disappointed to know what my GPA would be, but I'm good - it's an ok base to build on.arklaw13 wrote:I've never seen the cutoffs change once they've been posted. Only thing that will be updated are the book awards when more profs add theirs to the list.
It'll never be as high as you want. But it will cease to matter eventually. I'm only a year out and I couldn't even tell you what my GPA was.Scalvert wrote:Ok! Before the semester started, I would've been very disappointed to know what my GPA would be, but I'm good - it's an ok base to build on.arklaw13 wrote:I've never seen the cutoffs change once they've been posted. Only thing that will be updated are the book awards when more profs add theirs to the list.