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Impact of getting fired from a clerkship?
What impact does getting fired from a clerkship have? FYI I did pass the background check for my subsequent legal job in spite of this; just wondering what ramifications anyone in the same boat has faced.
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Re: Impact of getting fired from a clerkship?
Well, you’ve certainly burned bridges with that judge, have to hope they don’t know a lot of people you end up working with in the future, and you pretty much lose any benefit you’d have had from clerking, as I wouldn’t put this on your resume from now on. But it’s not like it’s a crime or an ethical violation (unless you got fired for either of those things). You’ve just probably screwed yourself/your reputation in certain quarters.
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Re: Impact of getting fired from a clerkship?
A lot depends on how badly things ended with your judge. My judge once “allowed a clerk to leave early for personal reasons,” and will stick to that story if called as a reference. S/he felt like the clerk had to go, but didn’t want to screw the clerk over for future jobs. In the more likely scenario where the judge straight-up fires you, that’s something you have to disclose and work around.
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I was fired for not maintaining a motions log diligently enough.Anonymous User wrote:A lot depends on how badly things ended with your judge. My judge once “allowed a clerk to leave early for personal reasons,” and will stick to that story if called as a reference. S/he felt like the clerk had to go, but didn’t want to screw the clerk over for future jobs. In the more likely scenario where the judge straight-up fires you, that’s something you have to disclose and work around.
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Re: Impact of getting fired from a clerkship?
Thankfully I don't want to end up working in the same state that this clerkship was in.nixy wrote:Well, you’ve certainly burned bridges with that judge, have to hope they don’t know a lot of people you end up working with in the future, and you pretty much lose any benefit you’d have had from clerking, as I wouldn’t put this on your resume from now on. But it’s not like it’s a crime or an ethical violation (unless you got fired for either of those things). You’ve just probably screwed yourself/your reputation in certain quarters.
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Re: Impact of getting fired from a clerkship?
As in, you didn't keep a good list; or you didn't keep up with the motions and they stacked up/passed six month list?Anonymous User wrote:I was fired for not maintaining a motions log diligently enough.Anonymous User wrote:A lot depends on how badly things ended with your judge. My judge once “allowed a clerk to leave early for personal reasons,” and will stick to that story if called as a reference. S/he felt like the clerk had to go, but didn’t want to screw the clerk over for future jobs. In the more likely scenario where the judge straight-up fires you, that’s something you have to disclose and work around.
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I was inconsistent in maintaining the log and things sometimes stacked (though not to the point of six months).Anon-non-anon wrote:As in, you didn't keep a good list; or you didn't keep up with the motions and they stacked up/passed six month list?Anonymous User wrote:I was fired for not maintaining a motions log diligently enough.Anonymous User wrote:A lot depends on how badly things ended with your judge. My judge once “allowed a clerk to leave early for personal reasons,” and will stick to that story if called as a reference. S/he felt like the clerk had to go, but didn’t want to screw the clerk over for future jobs. In the more likely scenario where the judge straight-up fires you, that’s something you have to disclose and work around.
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Re: Impact of getting fired from a clerkship?
Not that it matters to anything, but what is a “motions log?” There’s literally a report function on CMECF that generates a list of all pending motions. Are you saying you didn’t resolve motions on that list quickly enough?Anonymous User wrote:I was inconsistent in maintaining the log and things sometimes stacked (though not to the point of six months).Anon-non-anon wrote:As in, you didn't keep a good list; or you didn't keep up with the motions and they stacked up/passed six month list?Anonymous User wrote:I was fired for not maintaining a motions log diligently enough.Anonymous User wrote:A lot depends on how badly things ended with your judge. My judge once “allowed a clerk to leave early for personal reasons,” and will stick to that story if called as a reference. S/he felt like the clerk had to go, but didn’t want to screw the clerk over for future jobs. In the more likely scenario where the judge straight-up fires you, that’s something you have to disclose and work around.
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Re: Impact of getting fired from a clerkship?
In my chambers, we keep a log (it's a table) with all our cases and the recent activity in the case as well as the pending motions. We give the judge an updated copy every month (and usually go over it). I don't know if anon had a similar arrangement.wwwcol wrote:Not that it matters to anything, but what is a “motions log?” There’s literally a report function on CMECF that generates a list of all pending motions. Are you saying you didn’t resolve motions on that list quickly enough?Anonymous User wrote:I was inconsistent in maintaining the log and things sometimes stacked (though not to the point of six months).Anon-non-anon wrote:As in, you didn't keep a good list; or you didn't keep up with the motions and they stacked up/passed six month list?Anonymous User wrote:I was fired for not maintaining a motions log diligently enough.Anonymous User wrote:A lot depends on how badly things ended with your judge. My judge once “allowed a clerk to leave early for personal reasons,” and will stick to that story if called as a reference. S/he felt like the clerk had to go, but didn’t want to screw the clerk over for future jobs. In the more likely scenario where the judge straight-up fires you, that’s something you have to disclose and work around.
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Re: Impact of getting fired from a clerkship?
We had a similar manual list because the CM-generated report sometimes missed things and often didn't include everything we needed. Wouldn't be surprised if the original anon was charged with maintaining something similar.lavarman84 wrote:In my chambers, we keep a log (it's a table) with all our cases and the recent activity in the case as well as the pending motions. We give the judge an updated copy every month (and usually go over it). I don't know if anon had a similar arrangement.wwwcol wrote:Not that it matters to anything, but what is a “motions log?” There’s literally a report function on CMECF that generates a list of all pending motions. Are you saying you didn’t resolve motions on that list quickly enough?Anonymous User wrote:I was inconsistent in maintaining the log and things sometimes stacked (though not to the point of six months).Anon-non-anon wrote:As in, you didn't keep a good list; or you didn't keep up with the motions and they stacked up/passed six month list?Anonymous User wrote:I was fired for not maintaining a motions log diligently enough.Anonymous User wrote:A lot depends on how badly things ended with your judge. My judge once “allowed a clerk to leave early for personal reasons,” and will stick to that story if called as a reference. S/he felt like the clerk had to go, but didn’t want to screw the clerk over for future jobs. In the more likely scenario where the judge straight-up fires you, that’s something you have to disclose and work around.
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Re: Impact of getting fired from a clerkship?
It's an Excel spreadsheet that I had to maintain. I had to list the title of the motion/petition, docket #, type of case, when it arrived at my desk, where it came from, and where it eventually went.wwwcol wrote:Not that it matters to anything, but what is a “motions log?” There’s literally a report function on CMECF that generates a list of all pending motions. Are you saying you didn’t resolve motions on that list quickly enough?Anonymous User wrote:I was inconsistent in maintaining the log and things sometimes stacked (though not to the point of six months).Anon-non-anon wrote:As in, you didn't keep a good list; or you didn't keep up with the motions and they stacked up/passed six month list?Anonymous User wrote:I was fired for not maintaining a motions log diligently enough.Anonymous User wrote:A lot depends on how badly things ended with your judge. My judge once “allowed a clerk to leave early for personal reasons,” and will stick to that story if called as a reference. S/he felt like the clerk had to go, but didn’t want to screw the clerk over for future jobs. In the more likely scenario where the judge straight-up fires you, that’s something you have to disclose and work around.
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OP here. Yes, in my case it was similar.lavarman84 wrote:In my chambers, we keep a log (it's a table) with all our cases and the recent activity in the case as well as the pending motions. We give the judge an updated copy every month (and usually go over it). I don't know if anon had a similar arrangement.wwwcol wrote:Not that it matters to anything, but what is a “motions log?” There’s literally a report function on CMECF that generates a list of all pending motions. Are you saying you didn’t resolve motions on that list quickly enough?Anonymous User wrote:I was inconsistent in maintaining the log and things sometimes stacked (though not to the point of six months).Anon-non-anon wrote:As in, you didn't keep a good list; or you didn't keep up with the motions and they stacked up/passed six month list?Anonymous User wrote:I was fired for not maintaining a motions log diligently enough.Anonymous User wrote:A lot depends on how badly things ended with your judge. My judge once “allowed a clerk to leave early for personal reasons,” and will stick to that story if called as a reference. S/he felt like the clerk had to go, but didn’t want to screw the clerk over for future jobs. In the more likely scenario where the judge straight-up fires you, that’s something you have to disclose and work around.
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Re: Impact of getting fired from a clerkship?
Is CMECF just for fed clerkships?wwwcol wrote:Not that it matters to anything, but what is a “motions log?” There’s literally a report function on CMECF that generates a list of all pending motions. Are you saying you didn’t resolve motions on that list quickly enough?Anonymous User wrote:I was inconsistent in maintaining the log and things sometimes stacked (though not to the point of six months).Anon-non-anon wrote:As in, you didn't keep a good list; or you didn't keep up with the motions and they stacked up/passed six month list?Anonymous User wrote:I was fired for not maintaining a motions log diligently enough.Anonymous User wrote:A lot depends on how badly things ended with your judge. My judge once “allowed a clerk to leave early for personal reasons,” and will stick to that story if called as a reference. S/he felt like the clerk had to go, but didn’t want to screw the clerk over for future jobs. In the more likely scenario where the judge straight-up fires you, that’s something you have to disclose and work around.
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Re: Impact of getting fired from a clerkship?
Federal district court, yes. (Oh and I guess bankruptcy court.)
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OP here. I was clerking in state court. So the motions list was not auto-generated.nixy wrote:Federal district court, yes. (Oh and I guess bankruptcy court.)
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